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| 01:29.55 | Digit0 | Howzit? |
| 01:31.16 | Digit0 | Sry quick question, any pre meetings before the one scheduled 4 the 17th of next month? |
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| 05:20.06 | new2unix | moin all |
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| 06:33.53 | zachary | moin |
| 06:36.08 | new2unix | moin all once again |
| 06:37.01 | new2unix | SpudULike: you up? |
| 07:04.03 | new2unix | seeya later folks |
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| 08:40.59 | SPQR | mormin' |
| 08:45.17 | Tarragon | Some type of breakaway religious group? |
| 08:46.37 | SPQR | yup. we strive for reaching the "typos heaven" :) |
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| 08:52.49 | zachary | Tarragon: s/ mormon / mormin |
| 08:54.43 | Tarragon | zachary: No. mormin are the fanatical breakaway sect based on mistypes |
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| 08:56.10 | Cope | wave |
| 08:56.14 | Cope | hi |
| 08:56.27 | SPQR | and the more mistyes you get in a sentance, the better off you are!! ;) |
| 08:56.31 | SPQR | ey Cope |
| 08:56.34 | SPQR | *hey |
| 08:56.48 | Cope | Hiya :o) |
| 08:56.56 | zachary | Morning Cope |
| 08:57.00 | Cope | Morning |
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| 09:15.45 | JD | moin |
| 09:23.15 | cup | morning |
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| 09:25.07 | NisoDaemon | Mornin' all. |
| 09:25.15 | nasrat | hey NisoDaemon |
| 09:25.22 | NisoDaemon | I blame you nasrat |
| 09:26.25 | nasrat | it is indeed my fault |
| 09:26.46 | NisoDaemon | I have this urge to package something since your talk... Its all your fault |
| 09:28.18 | nasrat | grr davej has upgraded codemonkey |
| 09:28.30 | NisoDaemon | you trying to get 2.6 running? |
| 09:29.10 | nasrat | I've got it up and running atm, just trying to fix the XFree86 to have synaptics then submit it upstream. Then I may have to look at kudzu/anaconda |
| 09:29.30 | NisoDaemon | kudzu is hardware autodetection? |
| 09:29.46 | nasrat | yeah, obviously atm they don't know about new event layer |
| 09:29.59 | NisoDaemon | Then they aint the only one. Whats it do? |
| 09:30.27 | nasrat | I would point you at the post halloween doc but it's not there atm |
| 09:30.40 | NisoDaemon | Ah ok. mail me the url when it pops up. |
| 09:30.59 | NisoDaemon | I'm curious but not curious enough to hunt it down ;) |
| 09:31.20 | NisoDaemon | Imossible to see the damn screen. |
| 09:31.26 | nasrat | http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html is a good summary too |
| 09:32.21 | SpudULike | Wibbly wibbly woo woo. |
| 09:32.34 | SpudULike | Sorry, wrong channel. |
| 09:32.36 | NisoDaemon | Morning Spud. Recovered from Petes party yet? |
| 09:32.40 | NisoDaemon | HAHAHA |
| 09:33.31 | SpudULike | Only just recovering from walking back a puch bike earlier Sat evening. Didn't manage the PPP. |
| 09:33.44 | SpudULike | I'll have to go next week. It is weekly, right? |
| 09:34.09 | NisoDaemon | No idea... Although i've not spoken to John or Steve since Saturday so it may still be running :) |
| 09:34.36 | Tarragon | Could be although I left early at 7:30am |
| 09:34.49 | NisoDaemon | Did you get your train in time? |
| 09:35.02 | SpudULike | Don;t mention the train!!!!!! |
| 09:35.10 | Tarragon | Yes. But it broke down twice and took six hours |
| 09:35.35 | NisoDaemon | Six hours? Where were you going New Zealand? |
| 09:36.15 | SpudULike | See, T's now having to relive the intollerable heat, the bad smells, the gut wrenching feelings... And that's only the tea. |
| 09:36.55 | Tarragon | No just 200 miles north. Altogether it have five different engines. They ran out of drinks and there was a near riot when the final shunter left us some hundred yards from a station |
| 09:37.16 | NisoDaemon | Not even thr trains want to go to Manchester :) |
| 09:37.35 | NisoDaemon | Evertytime it stopped did someone run out of the bushs and steal bits? |
| 09:41.58 | NisoDaemon | Nasrat: neat article. I'm wondering if hyper threaded cpus will uncover the same kind of concurency bugs as SMP does. |
| 09:43.07 | JD | hi Tarragon |
| 09:44.42 | JD | NisoDaemon: I would imagine they would as they are in effect SMP boxes, but with a shared cache |
| 09:44.58 | JD | so you need to be a bit mor intelleget when running 2 HT PUS |
| 09:45.03 | JD | CPUs |
| 09:45.34 | JD | in that you prefer to move processes between HT cpus than physically different CPUs |
| 09:45.49 | NisoDaemon | Hi JD |
| 09:46.09 | NisoDaemon | I was just thinking it makes testing a little easier, SMP boards are still alittle expensive. |
| 09:48.45 | JD | not that expensive |
| 09:48.52 | JD | my desktops have always been SMP machines |
| 09:49.09 | NisoDaemon | 2-3 hundread for the board and a couple of hundread for the processors. |
| 09:49.19 | NisoDaemon | What do you run, AMD or Intel? |
| 09:56.05 | JD | AMD |
| 09:56.13 | JD | board was a lot less than that |
| 09:56.23 | JD | same for the processors |
| 09:56.35 | JD | and you don't have to buy both processors at the same time |
| 09:56.44 | NisoDaemon | I nmight have to have another look. Thats about the price i saw when i went looking last. |
| 09:57.04 | NisoDaemon | But a multiprcessor board with just one CPU... NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 09:57.39 | JD | that way you can save up for the second proc |
| 09:58.17 | NisoDaemon | Scan has them on its site for less than two hundred. Getting better: http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/ |
| 10:33.54 | cup | does anyone use libtool here? |
| 10:34.11 | JD | sometimes |
| 10:35.47 | cup | I am complete novice with it, its seems to have turned off my compiler warnings, best way to turn them back on? |
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| 11:35.14 | cup | worked it out, cheers |
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| 11:46.51 | JD | sprry |
| 11:51.26 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 11:56.41 | JD | hi |
| 11:56.47 | JD | how is Scotland? |
| 11:56.57 | sash | Heyhey we're the monkees. |
| 11:57.10 | JD | sash: no you are a mnkey |
| 11:57.14 | JD | I am the walrus |
| 11:58.17 | Xiaoqi | scotland is VERY hot atm |
| 11:58.39 | JD | so is Norway |
| 11:59.32 | SPQR | its starting to rain her in london |
| 11:59.39 | JD | 30 atm |
| 11:59.45 | JD | will be 26 tomorrow |
| 11:59.53 | Xiaoqi | wall to wall blue skies, |
| 12:00.19 | Xiaoqi | david and my american friend Rachel swam in the north sea at the weekend! |
| 12:01.00 | JD | crazy people |
| 12:01.09 | sash | Xiaoqi: Did they catch anything? |
| 12:01.10 | JD | is Rachel single? |
| 12:01.25 | sash | One track mind ... |
| 12:01.26 | Xiaoqi | sash: nope they didnt -not even acold! |
| 12:01.37 | SPQR | lol |
| 12:01.41 | Xiaoqi | JD: yes -but she has just gone back to Oklahoma |
| 12:02.21 | JD | ah crap |
| 12:02.48 | Xiaoqi | sorry |
| 12:02.54 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 12:05.10 | JD | well you need ot bring some of your friends to UKUUG |
| 12:07.51 | NisoDaemon | Can anyone recommend a good starting point for building debian packages? |
| 12:07.51 | NisoDaemon | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.02 | NisoDaemon | The #debian chnnel has no suggetions :) |
| 12:08.09 | Xiaoqi | JD: don't know if we are going or not |
| 12:08.20 | Xiaoqi | might to go edinburgh for pub-shaped thing |
| 12:09.31 | Xiaoqi | when is it again? |
| 12:09.50 | JD | 30-4Aug iirc |
| 12:10.02 | JD | NisoDaemon: dh-make |
| 12:10.05 | Xiaoqi | hokey dokey |
| 12:10.26 | Xiaoqi | I'll talk to my cousin and see if david, jen and i can stay with her for it |
| 12:10.47 | JD | NisoDaemon: run dh_make |
| 12:10.58 | JD | jen? |
| 12:11.25 | NisoDaemon | JD: I dont have that, i have a bundle of dh_ commands but not that one. |
| 12:11.32 | Xiaoqi | Jen is my friend who is staying with David and i atm |
| 12:11.34 | JD | install dh-make |
| 12:11.40 | NisoDaemon | Its standalone? |
| 12:11.41 | JD | do we have photos? |
| 12:11.45 | JD | yep |
| 12:12.09 | JD | not that I am desperate or anything |
| 12:12.26 | NisoDaemon | LOL |
| 12:12.41 | NisoDaemon | Unlucnky JD |
| 12:12.50 | Xiaoqi | JD: photos of jen? |
| 12:12.58 | JD | Xiaoqi: aye |
| 12:13.18 | JD | preferably with a taste in similar music |
| 12:13.32 | JD | that can't be too hard can it? |
| 12:13.36 | Cope | Who is going to lonix tonight! My first time! Who will be there? |
| 12:13.53 | Cope | grin jd |
| 12:14.26 | Xiaoqi | JD: no photos -and in her own words, jen is a 'geek virgin' in that she has not become an active geek yet |
| 12:14.44 | NisoDaemon | JD: Does dh_make replace the need for control files and similar? |
| 12:14.45 | dankolb | I should be there tonight |
| 12:14.51 | JD | does she understand the ways of geeks? |
| 12:15.08 | JD | NisoDaemon: dh)_make generates templates for you |
| 12:15.20 | JD | NisoDaemon: and I'm here if you need any help |
| 12:16.01 | NisoDaemon | My timings good then :) I just thought i should learn to do it, i'm not packaging anything for a real release. |
| 12:16.09 | sash | Cope: I'm going. |
| 12:16.44 | Cope | sash> Woo! |
| 12:16.53 | JD | NisoDaemon: I will be in Oslo until Sunday |
| 12:17.01 | JD | so jus tgrab me any time between now and then |
| 12:17.59 | Xiaoqi | JD: she is managing to live with david and i -which might mean she does |
| 12:18.27 | JD | how would you describe her? |
| 12:18.39 | JD | that is some slow crashing |
| 12:18.49 | JD | has it finished crashing yet? |
| 12:19.02 | Cope | xiaoqi - little energy? |
| 12:19.24 | Xiaoqi | Cope: ?? |
| 12:19.55 | dankolb | It still crashes. For no reason. It was working earlier today. |
| 12:22.15 | dankolb | Hmm......most odd. |
| 12:22.24 | dankolb | It works when I load it from the command line. |
| 12:22.34 | JD | what is it? |
| 12:22.35 | dankolb | *confused* |
| 12:22.36 | dankolb | Fire |
| 12:22.44 | dankolb | open /Applications/Fire.app |
| 12:22.45 | dankolb | works. |
| 12:22.46 | JD | like fire alarm |
| 12:22.47 | Xiaoqi | Cope: hehe -i don't know what the qi stands for |
| 12:22.53 | JD | ah okay |
| 12:23.00 | dankolb | Clicking the dock icon didn't. |
| 12:23.10 | Cope | Xiaoqi - I think qi means energy... I'll have to ask the gf. |
| 12:23.24 | SPQR | isn't gi energy? |
| 12:24.00 | zachary | Cope: I'm going to Lonix tonight. (Sorry for the late reply, daughter is finally taking a nap.) |
| 12:24.14 | Cope | zachary> Woo! |
| 12:24.19 | Xiaoqi | Cope: i am learning as well |
| 12:24.23 | NisoDaemon | JD: is this dh_make supposed to make 25 new files that have no visible purpose? :) |
| 12:24.43 | Xiaoqi | Cope: if it is little energy, then it is a lot more apt than i knew |
| 12:24.45 | zachary | gregj: I'll drill on your teeth:) |
| 12:24.57 | JD | NisoDaemon: yep |
| 12:25.01 | gregj | zachary: sure |
| 12:25.12 | JD | Xiaoqi: that would be cool if it was |
| 12:25.47 | Cope | Is Lonix the kind of thing you could take a !geeky gf to in the hope of slowly converting her? |
| 12:26.07 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 12:26.16 | Cope | Cool! |
| 12:26.23 | gregj | any girls there ? |
| 12:26.25 | JD | Is Lonix the kinda place you can go to meet prospective gf? |
| 12:26.27 | dankolb | As long as she doesn't mind geektalk :) |
| 12:26.27 | Xiaoqi | the only thing is that the qi is written in a particular way, and other pronunciations of qi may be written differently |
| 12:26.33 | gregj | if not, there is no reason for me to go :] |
| 12:26.42 | dankolb | Beer! |
| 12:26.53 | JD | gregj: there is be Cope's gf |
| 12:26.54 | Xiaoqi | i was not a geek until i Clyphox started taking me to lug meets and stuff |
| 12:28.00 | NisoDaemon | Where do you submit man page changes to for Debian? Are they just classed as bugs and done on bugzilla? |
| 12:29.45 | JD | debian don't run bugzilla |
| 12:29.54 | JD | NisoDaemon: run reportbug |
| 12:30.12 | JD | add the file and file a wishlist bug |
| 12:30.22 | JD | you may want to add the patch tag if you can |
| 12:30.58 | SPQR | brb. |
| 12:31.42 | NisoDaemon | Ahhh that assumes the box has a net connection. |
| 12:31.54 | NisoDaemon | Any online alternatives? |
| 12:32.14 | Cope | JD> Do you hang out in #debian at all?? |
| 12:32.23 | Cope | jd> Sorry only one ? meant |
| 12:32.24 | JD | Cope: good god no |
| 12:32.43 | NisoDaemon | cope: JD's actually helpful... he'd stand out in #debian :) |
| 12:32.45 | JD | #debian-devel on OFTC mostly |
| 12:33.00 | Cope | jd> I was there for 2 days and found it rude and elitist.... -really- put me off. |
| 12:33.50 | JD | Cope: yes it is |
| 12:34.49 | Cope | jd> I couldn't believe it. I've been using linux for (counts) nearly 4 years on and off... I count myself a novice but not a complete idiot - I was made to feel a complete idiot. |
| 12:47.41 | JD | NisoDaemon: sadly not |
| 12:47.50 | JD | you can only submit a bug from reportbug |
| 12:48.03 | JD | well you can send an email,m but that is all reportbug does |
| 12:49.40 | NisoDaemon | The man page doesnt have an email address on it. I'll sve it for later, it was last updated in Oct 99 so its not urgent ;) |
| 12:52.55 | NisoDaemon | JD: What metric is the Installed-Size in? Bytes? |
| 12:54.04 | JD | K iirc |
| 12:54.21 | JD | aye |
| 12:54.25 | JD | cos beep is 88 |
| 12:54.31 | JD | good idea |
| 12:54.42 | NisoDaemon | K yeah? |
| 12:57.50 | JD | yep |
| 13:00.52 | JD | which is the only think I can afford here |
| 13:01.10 | NisoDaemon | Whats Eple Nektar? BeeR |
| 13:01.16 | Cope | jd> Where are you normally? |
| 13:01.53 | JD | Cope: between Bedford and Milton Keynes |
| 13:01.59 | JD | NisoDaemon: apple juice |
| 13:02.04 | JD | I can't afford beer |
| 13:02.13 | JD | do you think I am made of money? |
| 13:02.47 | Cope | EEEK! |
| 13:03.20 | NisoDaemon | Thats... worrying. |
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| 13:03.30 | Cope | relo |
| 13:03.31 | SPQR | back |
| 13:03.31 | NisoDaemon | its cheaper to fly home, get pissed and fly bck :) |
| 13:06.50 | JD | NisoDaemon: everything is expensive |
| 13:07.05 | JD | NisoDaemon: I brought a 500ml bottle of drink the other day for 2GBP |
| 13:07.43 | NisoDaemon | Did you know the prices were that bad before you went or did it come as a surprise? |
| 13:08.32 | JD | came as quite a surprise |
| 13:08.37 | JD | but then food is free |
| 13:08.41 | JD | paid for by HP |
| 13:09.01 | murble | what is it about places that have lots of oil not liking alchool |
| 13:09.19 | dankolb | You don't want to get drunk and fall off the oil rig |
| 13:09.22 | JD | like? |
| 13:09.40 | NisoDaemon | Whats HP's interest in Debian? All the work i saw for Clusterguard was based on Deadrat. |
| 13:09.44 | JD | murble: where are you to main |
| 13:09.49 | NisoDaemon | Cluster guard / service guard |
| 13:09.51 | JD | moan |
| 13:09.59 | JD | NisoDaemon: HP use debian internally |
| 13:10.13 | JD | HP used to employ Bruce Perens |
| 13:10.31 | NisoDaemon | Yeah but i didnt think they liked to mention it :) |
| 13:10.38 | JD | Bdale has/does work for HP |
| 13:10.47 | JD | both were old DPL |
| 13:10.49 | NisoDaemon | All their commercial stuff is redhat certified |
| 13:11.23 | JD | redhat is PHB friendly |
| 13:11.27 | JD | NisoDaemon: wuss |
| 13:11.41 | SPQR | hit!! |
| 13:11.42 | dankolb | It's better than doing the wasp dance-of-death |
| 13:11.47 | SPQR | *hit it even |
| 13:11.52 | Cope | Sorry - what is PHB? |
| 13:12.01 | JD | pointy hiard boss |
| 13:12.05 | JD | haired |
| 13:12.05 | dankolb | Haired. |
| 13:12.11 | JD | that too |
| 13:12.16 | Cope | lol! |
| 13:13.17 | NisoDaemon | Dead wasp |
| 13:13.20 | NisoDaemon | Knuth has its uses |
| 13:13.48 | SPQR | wb |
| 13:14.08 | NisoDaemon | My copy of knuth has never been read but has dead bug all over it :) |
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| 13:14.21 | NisoDaemon | well worth £7 second hand. |
| 13:14.22 | jason_ukfsn | afternoon everyone |
| 13:14.30 | SPQR | afternoon jason |
| 13:14.33 | NisoDaemon | Good afternoon |
| 13:14.35 | Cope | Woo jason |
| 13:14.45 | NisoDaemon | LOL Cope, were we boring you ;) |
| 13:14.56 | JD | my debmirror has got to ipfwadm |
| 13:14.58 | Cope | Not at all... just good to see Jason |
| 13:15.05 | jason_ukfsn | I wouldn't advice wooing me. My wife did and look where she ended up! ;) |
| 13:15.07 | JD | not bad for 4 hours |
| 13:15.20 | SPQR | lol |
| 13:15.31 | SPQR | brb |
| 13:15.33 | JD | jason_ukfsn: Watford/? |
| 13:15.46 | jason_ukfsn | LOL, no I buried her in the local park. |
| 13:16.13 | NisoDaemon | Patio already too high then i take it |
| 13:16.26 | jason_ukfsn | Yep, the neighbours were fairly large people. |
| 13:16.46 | JD | 5.4G in 4 hours is nothing to be sniffed at |
| 13:16.51 | NisoDaemon | I'm going to get my openwoe cancelled. |
| 13:16.54 | jason_ukfsn | What for NisoDaemon? |
| 13:17.06 | NisoDaemon | Home ADSL with four lovely IP's |
| 13:17.11 | NisoDaemon | And no filtering |
| 13:17.12 | dankolb | Hrm. I still need to cancel OpenWoe |
| 13:17.41 | jason_ukfsn | I've just got a /48 for UKFSN to play around with. I may start delegating tunneled /64 networks. |
| 13:18.06 | JD | jason_ukfsn: I would not mind one |
| 13:18.08 | NisoDaemon | I only want the basics ;) |
| 13:18.12 | jason_ukfsn | JD - you'd probably need a fairly decent box to do any worthwhile sniffing of that kind of throughput. |
| 13:18.33 | JD | jason_ukfsn: probably yes |
| 13:18.35 | NisoDaemon | inbound ICMP and being able to run my own services is pretty much all i want. |
| 13:18.39 | murble | jason_ukfsn: have you got an ASN? |
| 13:19.27 | jason_ukfsn | No murble - it's freenet6 space. I need to look further into it before I commit to doing anything proper with it. |
| 13:20.16 | murble | jason_ukfsn: is it wise to get ipv6 from Kanada? |
| 13:20.58 | NisoDaemon | Makes interesting reading: http://www.ukfsn.org/finance.html |
| 13:21.01 | jason_ukfsn | Maybe not. As I said I need to look further into it. For a proper offering I will most likely do it "the right way" |
| 13:21.07 | dankolb | Kanada? It's not a KDE app... |
| 13:21.17 | jason_ukfsn | Is it a KDE country? |
| 13:21.34 | dankolb | No. That would be Kermany, wouldn't it? |
| 13:22.22 | dankolb | Or Knorway, for the toolkit? |
| 13:22.25 | murble | didn't you try sixxs.net? |
| 13:22.45 | JD | dankolb: and the majestic fjords |
| 13:23.02 | JD | dankolb: and the damn fine women and rediculaously expensive everything |
| 13:24.06 | dankolb | "Your mountains so lofty, your tree-tops so tall. Finland, Finland, Finland. Finland has it all" |
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| 13:24.45 | JD | dankolb: /me is not in finland |
| 13:24.52 | SPQR | 'lo |
| 13:24.54 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 13:24.59 | dankolb | JD: Close enough |
| 13:25.37 | JD | dankolb: I wouldn't say that to a norweigain |
| 13:25.46 | JD | murble: I wouldn';t expect you to be |
| 13:25.51 | JD | I would expect you to be in .lu |
| 13:26.08 | murble | why? |
| 13:26.25 | dankolb | murble: Are you Lonixing tonight? |
| 13:26.36 | murble | no i'm in luxembourg |
| 13:27.04 | murble | but according to the announcement there are going to be freebies given out, maybe i should investigate the evening flight to london city? |
| 13:27.05 | dankolb | Heh |
| 13:28.49 | JD | murble: because you are always in .lu |
| 13:29.59 | murble | well i hate it here. |
| 13:30.11 | murble | I'm not even staying in a proper hotel now. |
| 13:30.31 | JD | murble: get a new job then :) |
| 13:30.40 | JD | murble: are you going to go to a agency |
| 13:30.41 | jason_ukfsn | so where are you staying now murble? |
| 13:30.54 | murble | jason_ukfsn: in the house of an employee who has gone on holiday |
| 13:31.12 | murble | also he told me today that he is having other random people staying there as well. |
| 13:31.36 | murble | I am not atall happy about this arrangment. |
| 13:31.39 | jason_ukfsn | That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. |
| 13:32.08 | jason_ukfsn | If nay of those people pinches anything you could end up being blamed. Also there's nobody to cook you breakfast. |
| 13:32.13 | jason_ukfsn | s/nay/any/ |
| 13:32.22 | murble | oh and other people are probably devote thieving JWs |
| 13:32.33 | murble | jason_ukfsn: i didn't have breakfast this morning. |
| 13:33.00 | jason_ukfsn | devote theiving JWs? |
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| 13:39.37 | murble | devout |
| 13:52.40 | Cope | Anyone got time to run through this server spec i have drawn up (budget £400.00 - don't laugh) for imap/dhcp/web server/router? |
| 13:53.08 | JD | yeh |
| 13:53.09 | JD | shoot |
| 13:53.32 | Cope | Ok: |
| 13:54.30 | Cope | Athlon XP 2000+ with Quiet Copper Core Fan; Mini ATX 350W Case with out board USB.... |
| 13:54.44 | murble | if you can afford a 2nd ide disk to raid1 it, you should. |
| 13:54.50 | JD | is this purely a server? |
| 13:54.56 | Cope | ABIT KD7 Mobo with onboard high point Raid Controller |
| 13:54.59 | JD | jus tfor you? |
| 13:55.03 | Cope | For work, JD |
| 13:55.15 | JD | how many users? |
| 13:55.24 | Cope | 512MB Kingston PC2700 Ram |
| 13:55.35 | Cope | About 20 users atm, half a dozen dial in |
| 13:55.49 | JD | the only real disk access will be imap |
| 13:55.59 | Cope | 2 x 80B ide mirrored |
| 13:56.05 | JD | you haven't said tha tyou wll be doing file serving |
| 13:56.59 | JD | I think you may have overspecced, but then that is btter than underspeccing |
| 13:57.01 | Cope | CDrom - cheap vga card 3 x NICs |
| 13:57.57 | dankolb | If you're running in text-mode only, try and dig out a spare ISA graphics card. It'll work, and it'll be free. |
| 13:58.00 | Cope | File Serving - yeah not much - imap, diary sharing, local news server |
| 13:59.08 | Cope | dankolb> Yeah - I am 5 mins from TCR - sure I could pick up an old dog for a fiver |
| 14:00.09 | dankolb | :) |
| 14:00.13 | murble | Cope: there is no point going for a hardware riad controller like that. |
| 14:00.24 | murble | since it isn't really, it is just a bios hack |
| 14:00.43 | murble | and requires drivers, so it happens in softare anyway, just isn't as well tested |
| 14:01.00 | murble | go for a normal board, but with linux raid1 |
| 14:05.10 | Cope | murble> Ok - a pci raid controller? |
| 14:05.49 | murble | Cope: if you want somthing decent you need atleast a 3ware or somthing, and they cost about the same as your entire budget |
| 14:07.36 | murble | JD: you're going to admire slartis design? |
| 14:07.55 | JD | no I'm going to sit here and regret not going |
| 14:07.59 | dankolb | fnord |
| 14:08.40 | Cope | murble> So is there any point in actually mirroring then? Surely mirroring at a software level is better than not at all? Educate me :-) |
| 14:09.55 | JD | what ever |
| 14:09.58 | JD | I'm going |
| 14:10.01 | murble | Cope: I'm saying linux software raid is good. |
| 14:10.05 | murble | and you should use it. |
| 14:10.35 | murble | if you use a raid controller and have that fail you then have to buy another one before you can rescue your disks which is horrible. |
| 14:10.47 | murble | also use mdadm rather than the old raid tools as it is much nicer. |
| 14:11.06 | murble | and even if you setup a server with a single disk, configure it as a depleted raid1 array. |
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| 14:33.13 | davilion | guys: put some photos up on www.irvined.co.uk/gallery/USA of my trip to the us |
| 14:34.07 | davilion | i had great plans for making it look like tux was pissing on the M$ building. |
| 14:35.06 | dankolb | Hi davilion |
| 14:37.36 | davilion | hi dan |
| 14:38.12 | dankolb | You Lonixing tonight? |
| 14:39.18 | davilion | no, im in st andrews unfortunatly |
| 14:39.19 | davilion | upgrading a machine. |
| 14:39.36 | davilion | and im waiting for the tartan phase electricity to go pop. |
| 14:39.41 | dankolb | Ah. |
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| 14:53.45 | nasrat | wb NisoDaemon |
| 14:54.22 | NisoDaemon | Was the reboot your choice or the kernels Nas? |
| 14:54.51 | NisoDaemon | http://www.kclee.com/clemens/unix/HowToCreateYourOwnDebianPackage.html is quiet nice. |
| 14:54.52 | nasrat | yup, testing a usb fix |
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| 14:56.32 | NisoDaemon | Hi res |
| 14:59.17 | resuDaed | Hey NisoDaemon |
| 14:59.46 | davilion | hi NisoDaemon |
| 14:59.48 | davilion | hows life? |
| 15:00.11 | NisoDaemon | Life is hot... |
| 15:00.17 | NisoDaemon | Even a little rain hasent helped |
| 15:00.20 | resuDaed | life sucks as a contractor atm |
| 15:00.34 | NisoDaemon | Res whats your field? Code or systems? |
| 15:00.50 | resuDaed | systems |
| 15:01.43 | NisoDaemon | I thought the market was supposed to be on the upturn... |
| 15:01.46 | NisoDaemon | Thats worrying |
| 15:02.05 | resuDaed | it is, but its not as fast as I'd like |
| 15:02.26 | resuDaed | I have just left my previous contract, and am now looking also |
| 15:03.20 | NisoDaemon | Ah ok. Only posistion i've seen this week is: |
| 15:03.34 | NisoDaemon | gah lost the bookmark. brb |
| 15:04.43 | davilion | hmmm |
| 15:04.44 | davilion | speaking of hot |
| 15:05.57 | NisoDaemon | cant find it... Gah... |
| 15:15.38 | NisoDaemon | Asking questions in #debian is just painfull. |
| 15:17.36 | nasrat | building X is painfull |
| 15:17.50 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 15:17.52 | dankolb | Well, it's slow. |
| 15:17.57 | dankolb | Under FreeBSD there's no pain :) |
| 15:18.09 | nasrat | true, I'm trying to mung in a new driver |
| 15:20.41 | NisoDaemon | Dan you hot and getting rained on then? :) |
| 15:20.56 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 15:21.13 | Xiaoqi | back! |
| 15:21.46 | NisoDaemon | grep-status -FEssential -sPackage -ni yes |
| 15:22.04 | NisoDaemon | Shows all the packages i dont need to mention! YES! |
| 15:25.07 | Cope | Ni Hao Xiaoqi! |
| 15:26.36 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 15:26.46 | Xiaoqi | i know more cantonese than mandarin I'm afraid :( |
| 15:28.57 | Cope | lol |
| 15:29.14 | Cope | That's like saying 'I know more Cockney than English' |
| 15:29.24 | Cope | Well... so says my gf |
| 15:29.31 | NisoDaemon | Oi. Some of us do know more Cockney than English. |
| 15:29.35 | Cope | lol |
| 15:29.46 | NisoDaemon | Just becuase the words are the same doesn't mean its not special ;) |
| 15:29.55 | Cope | Absolutely! |
| 15:30.21 | NisoDaemon | Its near St Pauls i think... |
| 15:31.11 | NisoDaemon | Cope, if you get lost phone Tushar, |
| 15:31.28 | NisoDaemon | ahh thats not his mobile... |
| 15:31.44 | Xiaoqi | Cope: the person i learnt from taught me the cantonese pronunciations, so my name would be SiuKay, but i do remember some mandarin. I am better at writing it |
| 15:32.47 | Cope | Gosh - Mandarin would be shoughcher |
| 15:33.48 | Cope | Where shough rhymes with bough, how, cow etc, |
| 15:33.57 | Cope | Slough |
| 15:34.16 | Cope | nisodaemon> Tusar? |
| 15:36.39 | NisoDaemon | Cope: the guy who founded lonix and does all the hard work. |
| 15:36.52 | NisoDaemon | he'll probably have a pony tail ;) |
| 15:37.03 | Cope | lol cool |
| 15:38.36 | Xiaoqi | Cope: i haven't spoken it for a good couple of years as my friend moved away to uni, hence all i remember properly is the written forms as i have them recorded |
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| 15:44.16 | NisoDaemon | Afternoon highbury. |
| 15:45.16 | highbury | hi there |
| 15:45.37 | NisoDaemon | You not lonixing tonight? |
| 15:48.42 | NisoDaemon | Bad cope. |
| 15:48.54 | NisoDaemon | I assume you own all those books? |
| 15:48.57 | NisoDaemon | O you do now ;) |
| 15:49.02 | Cope | lol |
| 15:49.54 | NisoDaemon | "and has the sendmail reference by his bed." dont ever breed ;) |
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| 15:55.18 | armijn | 34 degrees...not funny... |
| 15:55.19 | zachary | highbury: Lonix tonight? |
| 15:57.49 | murble | well it was 37 in Luxembourg |
| 15:58.05 | armijn | murble: yeah, .lu isn't funny either ;-) |
| 15:58.28 | armijn | hot...humid...in a room full of running machines... |
| 15:58.36 | armijn | the perfect recipe for "smelly geek" |
| 15:58.46 | murble | armijn: oh I returied to an aircondioned machine room. |
| 15:58.52 | highbury | hmmm, had forgotten about Lonix |
| 15:58.54 | murble | and was told not to work there because there isn't a phone to answer... |
| 15:59.00 | armijn | murble: urgh :) |
| 15:59.10 | murble | I didn't come over to luxembourg to answer a fucking telephone or be presenable to customers! |
| 15:59.15 | highbury | anything speacial happening tonite at Lonix? |
| 15:59.28 | murble | especally as most people hang up when i answer in english. |
| 15:59.35 | armijn | murble: *sweating* customers... |
| 16:00.13 | murble | armijn: I kind of wanted to do some work, which isn't really possible in the heat of the main office... |
| 16:00.28 | murble | and to fill in a job application form... |
| 16:00.52 | armijn | today is completely lost for me, too hot... |
| 16:00.56 | armijn | hmm, should get something to eat, then go to pub... |
| 16:01.13 | armijn | drink cool refreshing good beer... |
| 16:01.39 | zachary | highbury: O'Reilly has donated some give aways. |
| 16:09.13 | Cope | Who is still here who is going tonight so I can find someone I've spoken to before! |
| 16:12.14 | Cope | :( |
| 16:16.05 | cup | What time does this Lonix thing kick off then? |
| 16:17.12 | Cope | cup> From 6pm food from 9ish |
| 16:17.33 | armijn | afaik dankolb is going... |
| 16:17.43 | Cope | Groovy |
| 16:17.56 | Cope | Its groovy guess. |
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| 16:36.10 | avant | new2unix dude |
| 16:36.44 | avant | new2unix has been idle 9hrs 31mins 56secs |
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| 16:36.46 | avant | oh |
| 16:37.06 | avant | 17th august isn't really bimonthly is it? |
| 16:40.50 | Cope | Ooh - how do you see how long someone has been idle? |
| 16:41.44 | murble | ./whois cope cope |
| 16:42.17 | Cope | ./ |
| 16:42.28 | murble | that was just so it came out. |
| 16:42.53 | Cope | say Ah - I wondered if you wanted me to go into a shell! |
| 16:43.33 | Cope | ./whois cope |
| 16:43.47 | murble | no /whois cope cope |
| 16:43.55 | murble | the . was just so it came out on channel |
| 16:44.00 | Cope | Gotcha - I know - was just doing as you were escaping the ./ |
| 16:44.07 | murble | ok |
| 16:44.27 | avant | /whois Cope |
| 16:48.43 | murble | avant: did you get the message? |
| 16:50.32 | avant | what message? |
| 16:51.03 | avant | your version reply? |
| 16:56.36 | murble | yeah |
| 17:05.48 | Cope | Laters. |
| 17:08.40 | avant | heh |
| 17:09.02 | avant | i assume FOAD means fsck on another drive? |
| 17:09.04 | avant | or does it mean |
| 17:09.07 | avant | fsck off and die |
| 17:09.08 | avant | heh |
| 17:09.52 | avant | i find it funny that people get so funny when you version/port scan them |
| 17:10.26 | avant | what does a version give me |
| 17:10.27 | avant | ? |
| 17:10.28 | avant | really? |
| 17:10.51 | avant | i was going to say if you hold enter when writing / you can type it without the ./ |
| 17:11.06 | avant | /quit |
| 17:11.11 | avant | i mean ctrl |
| 17:11.13 | avant | on the mirc |
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| 17:40.37 | resuDaed | evening Leeds |
| 17:41.05 | Leeds | hey resuDaed... |
| 17:41.17 | Leeds | just popped in to see if anyone else is about to go to Lonix... |
| 17:41.24 | resuDaed | Leeds : you remember doing a talk on bash scripting? |
| 17:41.38 | resuDaed | do you still happen to have the slides? |
| 17:41.41 | Leeds | I remember... |
| 17:41.43 | Leeds | hang on |
| 17:42.18 | Leeds | http://ipaq.vmlinuz.org/gllug/ |
| 17:42.48 | resuDaed | thanks |
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| 17:47.13 | Jenson | heya all |
| 17:47.26 | Leeds | evening |
| 17:47.37 | Leeds | Lonix |
| 17:47.51 | Jenson | oh, have fun |
| 17:52.33 | Leeds | do I have to? |
| 17:52.57 | Jenson | no |
| 17:53.02 | Jenson | you can be depressed if you want |
| 17:53.13 | Leeds | but I don't want |
| 17:53.14 | Jenson | ans then i can give ya a big hug :) |
| 17:53.55 | Leeds | http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/features/story.jsp?story=424991 heh :-) |
| 17:53.59 | Leeds | thanks :-) |
| 17:55.22 | Leeds | well, the first half is heh... |
| 17:56.45 | Jenson | heh its says all us irc ppl wanna talk about is sex :D |
| 17:57.00 | Leeds | that's what the first half says |
| 17:57.05 | Jenson | and about lack of clothing |
| 17:57.05 | Leeds | the second half is all about pedos |
| 17:57.25 | Jenson | oh ffs, ive chatted to pedos on the net before lol |
| 17:58.16 | Leeds | don't think I have... but I'm not really the target... |
| 17:58.49 | Jenson | I have, they offered to pay me for phone sex |
| 17:59.22 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 18:00.54 | Leeds | well, don't do that then |
| 18:01.56 | Jenson | I'm not a kid anymore am i |
| 18:02.10 | Leeds | sort of |
| 18:02.35 | Jenson | Actually if you could see the way I'm managing to get double cream round my mouth ATM you'd think I was akid lol |
| 18:02.51 | Jenson | bah |
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| 18:41.51 | avant | what is Lonix? |
| 18:44.31 | avant | ahhh |
| 18:44.34 | avant | london linux |
| 18:44.35 | avant | lonix |
| 18:44.36 | avant | :) |
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| 19:01.05 | cozmonort | hi room |
| 19:34.32 | new2unix | hi avant. i see youre familiarizing yourself with the group :) |
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| 19:37.26 | Jenson | heya stephanb |
| 19:37.47 | stephanb | Jenson: well hello |
| 19:44.11 | Jenson | ibot: seen zimm |
| 19:44.11 | | zimm <Administra@host81-134-100-223.in-addr.btopenworld.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 8h 20m 26s ago, saying: 'laters '. |
| 20:26.32 | gregj | anybody seen leeds |
| 20:27.07 | Jenson | yeh |
| 20:27.10 | Jenson | he went to lonix |
| 20:27.32 | murble | he went to Lonix, so he won't be back yet. |
| 20:27.35 | gregj | oh, lonix |
| 20:27.47 | gregj | i forgot about lonix |
| 20:27.48 | gregj | sh |
| 20:29.15 | murble | well I'm trapped in .lu so i can't go. |
| 20:29.55 | murble | next month I'll probably be in .sk instead |
| 20:32.43 | Jenson | .sk? |
| 20:33.00 | new2unix | murble: are you a traveling salesman? doubleglazing perhaps? do you own a red car? |
| 20:33.15 | murble | no, i don't even have a full driving license. |
| 20:33.30 | digit0 | Never stoped me Bfore ;) |
| 20:33.37 | Jenson | fuck, missed my mouth |
| 20:33.40 | Jenson | damn alcohol |
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| 21:54.41 | Jenson | hiya sexy goth guy |
| 21:56.18 | nasrat | hi Jenson |
| 21:58.40 | nasrat | how goes? |
| 21:59.07 | Jenson | little drunk, horny, playful, finally sorted things with my ex...so yeh im cool |
| 21:59.09 | Jenson | howz you? |
| 21:59.36 | nasrat | hot, tired, stressfull couple of days at work |
| 22:00.07 | Jenson | well, maybe you do need more than a hug then |
| 22:00.09 | Jenson | wanna play? |
| 22:00.13 | murble | nasrat: did you make it to lonix? |
| 22:00.33 | nasrat | murble: nah, I had to set up a home network for someone |
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| 22:00.49 | murble | 'k |
| 22:00.58 | murble | nasrat: do you know perfdave? |
| 22:01.16 | nasrat | murble: I know him v. well, was in Manc with him |
| 22:01.34 | murble | ahhh. |
| 22:02.43 | nasrat | Jenson: how about a nice game of global themo nuclear war |
| 22:03.01 | Jenson | nasrat: not was i was thinking baby |
| 22:03.03 | nasrat | murble: you know him through Ox and london pm |
| 22:04.35 | murble | s/london pm// |
| 22:04.43 | murble | I've never seen him at london.pm |
| 22:05.02 | nasrat | ah, I think he's been, he used to irc there IIRC |
| 22:21.01 | nasrat | night all |
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