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| 07:37.31 | jason_ukfsn | good morning all |
| 07:37.52 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 07:38.06 | jason_ukfsn | Blimey, someone's here this early! |
| 07:38.18 | jason_ukfsn | I'm shocked. |
| 07:38.50 | Tarragon | Some of us bots live here |
| 07:39.36 | jason_ukfsn | LOL - I heard you were a but maniacal. Oh wait that's not quite the same is it? ;) |
| 07:39.55 | Tarragon | :) |
| 07:39.56 | jason_ukfsn | s/but/bit/ |
| 07:40.56 | jason_ukfsn | I had confirmation that the ADSL thing is being set up this week. I should have access to the service from Monday. |
| 07:47.07 | Tarragon | That's good. |
| 07:48.27 | jason_ukfsn | Yes and I have the pricing all worked out now, including discounts for those paying in advance for a year or three months. Hopefully some people will do so. |
| 07:51.06 | chrisa | is it tiscali you're working with for ADSL? |
| 07:54.09 | jason_ukfsn | I am not supposed to confirm that it is so I wont ;) |
| 07:54.31 | jason_ukfsn | The contract I signed states that I should not use their name. |
| 07:54.48 | chrisa | ah :) |
| 07:54.50 | jason_ukfsn | They also provide the dialup ports we use for the 0845 service. |
| 07:55.15 | jason_ukfsn | Unfortunately they are no longer offering unmetered dialup ports on a wholesale basis. |
| 07:56.35 | jason_ukfsn | The service wont be that same as their own ADSL offering though. Oddly enough the wholesale offering is better than what they sell directly. <shrug> |
| 07:57.13 | chrisa | how do they present the adsl sessions to you? |
| 07:57.21 | chrisa | some sort of L2TP thing/ |
| 07:57.21 | chrisa | ? |
| 07:58.30 | jason_ukfsn | to us? They don't. They provide the actual Internet access. That's a good thing as their network is very good. I will be recommending that people use our DNS servers though as the Tiscali ones seem poorly managed |
| 08:01.07 | chrisa | ah, i see. |
| 08:01.38 | chrisa | at $old_job we had a system where we delivered the adsl traffic to the reseller, and let them handle it. |
| 08:02.38 | jason_ukfsn | yes that's the usual way of doing it. It's also the expensive way for the reseller. Our transit bill would increase a lot. |
| 08:05.03 | jason_ukfsn | brb, need to grab some font files. |
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| 08:19.54 | SPQR | g' moaning all |
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| 09:37.15 | zachary | moing |
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| 10:11.48 | nasrat | hi stigg |
| 10:11.54 | nasrat | s/gg/g/ :( |
| 10:12.13 | skugg | hi nasrat :) |
| 10:12.57 | nasrat | ibot lart sourceforge's cvs server |
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| 10:15.08 | SpudUAway | nasrat: s\/s\/gg\/g/i/u - Ooh, mash my eyes up, is it right though??? |
| 10:16.53 | skugg | SpudULike, not quite |
| 10:16.57 | skugg | ;) |
| 10:17.13 | SpudULike | Would you not use '\' to esxape the '/'? |
| 10:17.19 | SpudULike | escape even. |
| 10:17.43 | skugg | yes, but not /g /i /u, but rather /giu for options on the end... |
| 10:18.28 | SpudULike | Ooh, yeah, err. |
| 10:18.29 | skugg | SpudULike, s/pattern/replace-text/options |
| 10:19.15 | SpudULike | They weren't being passed as options but trying to change the 'i' for the 'u' |
| 10:19.44 | SpudULike | But it doesn't matter. |
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| 10:23.49 | skugg | SpudULike, ah. sorry. |
| 10:24.05 | gregj | new winex |
| 10:24.07 | gregj | :) |
| 10:24.19 | gregj | and i can play gta3:vice city |
| 10:24.21 | gregj | yeah |
| 10:26.57 | SpudULike | No, no, it's me that's sorry, I started digging myself ito a pit. When Nas posted 'Hi Stigg' I thought he was posting Skugg, but got it wrong, hence the correction, then I started thinking about how you would correct the correction, incorrectly assuming it was incorrect, which it wasn't, but I was, and not for the first time, or last. Err, nurse, I need my tablets......... |
| 10:31.45 | skugg | SpudULike, :) |
| 10:54.15 | Clyphox | Ouch |
| 10:54.44 | SpudULike | , said the desk. |
| 10:55.09 | gregj | http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.07/40torvalds.html |
| 10:58.37 | SPQR | 'lo |
| 10:59.34 | Clyphox | Moo |
| 10:59.59 | SPQR | 'sup bitch? |
| 11:07.32 | Jenson | morning |
| 11:19.20 | SPQR | FLASH! |
| 11:19.20 | SPQR | Intelligence of mankind decreasing. |
| 11:19.21 | SPQR | Details at ... uh, when the little hand is on the .... |
| 11:20.12 | stephen | just remember that the sum of all the intelligence on this planet is a constant, the population is growing :P |
| 11:20.36 | SPQR | lol :P |
| 11:20.57 | SPQR | good, then I'll be smarted than me kids ;) |
| 11:21.04 | SPQR | *smarter even.. |
| 11:21.26 | stephen | :p |
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| 12:23.29 | SPQR | Hey all |
| 12:30.22 | SPQR | Never raise your hand to your children -- it leaves your midsection |
| 12:30.22 | SPQR | unprotected. |
| 12:53.28 | SPQR | he was gonna help me :( |
| 12:54.01 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: who was? |
| 12:54.30 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : some hairy person :P |
| 12:54.46 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: ah, can only be Clyphox |
| 12:54.56 | SPQR | yup yup :P |
| 13:09.28 | SPQR | heya beks :) |
| 13:09.49 | Jenson | heya |
| 13:10.21 | Jenson | Never raise your hand to your girlfriend either, that too leaves your midesection unprotected - esp in poublic :P |
| 13:10.28 | SPQR | lol :P |
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| 13:46.54 | Jenson | re |
| 13:47.29 | SPQR | ping |
| 13:47.36 | Jenson | pong |
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| 13:56.14 | bluebeard | Does anyone have an ailing laptop they would be willing to sell? |
| 13:57.14 | Jenson | nope sorry |
| 13:57.23 | Jenson | dunno if antyone else is here |
| 13:57.50 | jason_ukfsn | I have an ailing laptop however it's the only one I have. |
| 13:58.06 | bluebeard | That's the trouble with GNU/Linux users; They never thing of a laptop as useless. |
| 13:58.18 | skugg | bluebeard, how much are you willing to pay? |
| 13:59.14 | skugg | i've not decided yet if i want to sell it or not. |
| 13:59.20 | jason_ukfsn | SPQR: why don't you fix it? |
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| 13:59.35 | jason_ukfsn | Mine is a K6 300 |
| 13:59.50 | SPQR | wb |
| 14:00.45 | bluebeard_ | ARGH! bluebeard is a phony! I'm the real bluebeard_ ! |
| 14:01.26 | Jenson | bluebeard_: Where you from? |
| 14:01.48 | bluebeard_ | currently, Canterbury in the countryside |
| 14:02.05 | bluebeard_ | Originally, California in the redwoods |
| 14:02.37 | blueshaved | ah, that's better |
| 14:05.03 | blueshaved | I'm visiting relatives here for a few weeks. It's my aunt's birthday and I'm looking to buy her an old laptop that can handle a GUI well enough. Nothing fancy. |
| 14:05.40 | Jenson | blueshaved: Sorry mate, I dont have any laptops |
| 14:07.14 | blueshaved | Well, I'm sure I can dredge something up. Any recommendations for places to buy used laptops in London? I prefer to see what I'm getting when it comes to used equipment. |
| 14:07.56 | bluebeard | That didn't take long. |
| 14:08.00 | Jenson | thats a quick growing beard... |
| 14:08.22 | bluebeard | Yes, ever a problem which plauged me throughout my service in the Navy. |
| 14:08.22 | Jenson | Well, I'm not from London, so I cant help |
| 14:08.34 | skugg | bluebeard, "british computer fairs" at tottenham court road on saturdays, or brick lane sundays |
| 14:09.12 | bluebeard | skugg, Same fair each time? |
| 14:09.21 | murble | skugg: howmany previous owners did it have? |
| 14:09.29 | skugg | bluebeard, yeah |
| 14:09.29 | bluebeard | I mean, is it the same fair in a different venue? |
| 14:09.36 | skugg | murble, dunno, don't care |
| 14:09.58 | skugg | bluebeard, same fair, many of the same stalls, but not all. |
| 14:10.45 | SpudULike | Come on Saturday to TCR, then top our user group meeting that afternoon. |
| 14:11.43 | bluebeard | It only takes one bad owner to ruin a laptop, whether it's had one owner or a dozen. |
| 14:11.50 | bluebeard | SpudULike, TCR? |
| 14:12.03 | SpudULike | Tottenham Court Road. |
| 14:12.11 | SpudULike | Central London. |
| 14:12.42 | murble | skugg: I'd be worred about receiving a stolen aptop at such places. |
| 14:13.06 | skugg | murble, i bought it in good faith. |
| 14:13.07 | bluebeard | murble, why worry? |
| 14:13.15 | skugg | murble, i have a receit. |
| 14:13.38 | murble | skugg: because if it was stolen you could have it take off you. |
| 14:14.07 | skugg | murble, then i go back to the dealer and demand my money back. |
| 14:14.21 | bluebeard | receipt of stolen goods is only a crime if the recepient knows about it. |
| 14:14.36 | chrisa | you still lose your stuff, though, don't you? |
| 14:14.37 | SpudULike | bluebeard: See http://www.computerfairs.com/ for details about the fair. |
| 14:14.56 | skugg | chrisa, possibly. but it has served its purpose now -- i'm through uni :P |
| 14:15.14 | skugg | it'll still be nice to have though -- it's a wonderful little thing. |
| 14:15.29 | skugg | it's a _different_ laptop i'm thinking of selling... |
| 14:15.35 | chrisa | ah... |
| 14:15.36 | skugg | one that i bought from Dell directly |
| 14:17.28 | bluebeard | skugg, You have a Dell laptop that you're considering for sale? |
| 14:17.55 | skugg | bluebeard, i have thought about it. but i have not decided yet. |
| 14:18.10 | skugg | and in any case, not quite as urgent as you seem to want to buy one... |
| 14:18.39 | bluebeard | Well, I'll be at the meeting on Saturday if you change your mind. |
| 14:19.09 | skugg | it's got the function as my workstation now, and i can't afford to replace it |
| 14:19.35 | skugg | i was thinking of selling it and buying a desktop at some point, but not now |
| 14:19.45 | skugg | (funds are limited) |
| 14:19.53 | murble | laptops are better ifyou move house frequently |
| 14:21.20 | bluebeard | On the matter of bringing systems to the meeting: Should I have the serial number of my Zaurus on hand when I show up at the door? |
| 14:22.19 | skugg | murble, yeah. i hope to not move too frequently, but i definately need to move during the summer... |
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| 14:36.21 | bluebeard | Hello nasrat, do you have a laptop you might sell? |
| 14:37.22 | nasrat | Well I have a spare 8086 |
| 14:38.41 | bluebeard | Ooh! Have you worked out the X timings for it? |
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| 14:39.09 | bluebeard | I always had trouble getting X to run on my old 8086.. |
| 14:39.23 | nasrat | microwindows/nanox? |
| 14:39.33 | bluebeard | Hello zachary, do you have a laptop you might sell? |
| 14:40.01 | bluebeard | nasrat, I was kidding :-) |
| 14:40.28 | zachary | bluebeard: I don't know if you want mine, it has the us keyboard layout. |
| 14:41.14 | bluebeard | I might, but it's for my aunt who actually /is/ a brit. |
| 14:42.11 | bluebeard | Plus, a little decoration and a keyboard can be visually remapped. |
| 14:42.31 | bluebeard | She probably wouldn't even notice. Her typing is the hunt and peck method. |
| 14:44.13 | murble | US keyboards are horrible. |
| 14:44.27 | murble | if you ever want to type both £ and \ |
| 14:44.33 | zachary | Actually I can't sell any of ours until I get a new one. |
| 14:48.25 | zachary | bbl, hour or so |
| 14:48.56 | chrisa | murble: who tf does that? |
| 14:49.02 | murble | chrisa: COLT |
| 14:49.26 | murble | they can't fix BGP now they do this. |
| 14:49.45 | chrisa | BGP doesn't have a GUI though, so I'm not surprised about that |
| 14:49.53 | chrisa | (and if it does i don't want to know...) |
| 14:50.24 | murble | chrisa: yeah, wait til zebra has bgpapi, it is already getting ospfapi |
| 14:50.42 | chrisa | yy, saw that. perhaps they should get it to work properly first though |
| 14:51.06 | chrisa | (though some of it might have been tunnel-ttl issues) |
| 14:51.31 | murble | chrisa: someone on #zebra is still trying to get zebra ospf work over cipe tunnels. |
| 14:52.18 | bluebeard | Now there is a use for front panel LCD displays: Show an animation of someone pushing the ON/OFF switch. |
| 14:52.30 | chrisa | well, it worked over cisco->cisco GRE, but that has ttl=1 |
| 14:53.02 | chrisa | but it didn't work linux->linux using IPIP, where the ttl could be anything... |
| 14:53.06 | murble | chris : you've not tried setting the ttl to 1 on the ip ip link? |
| 14:53.31 | chrisa | not tried ospf since then |
| 14:53.37 | chrisa | bgp Just Werks |
| 14:54.02 | chrisa | (given that you can fudge the ttl issue with ebgp-multihop) |
| 14:55.03 | murble | what multihop 255? |
| 14:56.53 | chrisa | yep : |
| 14:56.56 | chrisa | :) |
| 14:56.58 | chrisa | evil, innit? |
| 14:58.16 | bluebeard | chrisa, why does everyone in this country say "innit" at the end of each sentence? |
| 14:58.45 | murble | bluebeard: we don't do we? |
| 14:59.04 | murble | oh i forgot, innit. |
| 14:59.58 | bluebeard | Like, not EVERY sentence, but, like, most sentences are, like, ended with innit. |
| 15:00.32 | SpudULike | Innit some start wiv' it too? |
| 15:00.40 | chrisa | u shld be tnkfl i kno whr the vwls r on my kbd. |
| 15:00.56 | bluebeard | It's like, almost as irksome as, like, listening to a valley girl talk: I'm so sure. |
| 15:03.19 | bluebeard | or rdng englsh n txt msg fmt |
| 15:03.23 | murble | bluebeard: isn't that a bit like poeple who use like all the time? |
| 15:03.42 | bluebeard | NO! |
| 15:03.48 | bluebeard | Well, maybe a little. |
| 15:04.41 | bluebeard | Okay, it's the same sort of thing. English is a language in flux. |
| 15:04.56 | bluebeard | That is to say: It's all fluxed up. |
| 15:05.13 | chrisa | there's good flux and bad flux though |
| 15:05.21 | chrisa | txt spk is horrible, for example |
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| 15:08.28 | bluebeard_ | btanytime? right. at anytime bt may cancel your dialup session. |
| 15:10.24 | Tarragon | bluebeard: Common to Afro-Caribbeans and Asians is the all-purpose use of innit?, as in "Let?s go down the shops, innit?" and "Innit she?s going out with him?". An?t it? is a more recent variant. |
| 15:11.27 | chrisa | now, why do i have Dread Questionmark Disease happening in that line ... ? |
| 15:12.23 | blueNdeface | ded ugly that questionmark thing, innit? |
| 15:12.29 | Tarragon | Because it is used to signify a question. |
| 15:12.59 | chrisa | well, i have 'Let?s' and 'she?s' ... |
| 15:14.48 | Tarragon | Should be an apostrophe |
| 15:15.56 | chrisa | yep. i blame redhat 8's UTF-ness... |
| 15:19.17 | bluebeard | Is there a trick for keeping BT from dropping an active dialup every so often? |
| 15:30.24 | Tarragon | Does it always drop after a certain amount of time? |
| 15:38.29 | bluebeard | No, it seems sporadic. That's why I suspect a faulty switch somewhere. |
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| 15:42.13 | Jenson | hey NisoRamen |
| 15:42.19 | bluebeard | Jenson, have you been sacked? |
| 15:42.19 | NisoRamen | Evening Jenson |
| 15:42.33 | Jenson | nope lol |
| 15:43.09 | Jenson | bluebeard: BT dial up disconnects you every 2 hours or 1hr 30, depending on how busy the service is |
| 15:43.13 | Jenson | I have it too |
| 15:43.26 | NisoRamen | havent you moved up to broadband yet? |
| 15:43.32 | NisoRamen | How do you survive on a dialup :) |
| 15:43.38 | Jenson | nope, not allowed to until I get a proper job |
| 15:43.41 | bluebeard | Arrgh, the scurvy dogs! |
| 15:43.59 | chrisa | bluebeard: have you been through the 'turn the gain up' thing with BT? |
| 15:44.09 | NisoRamen | MacDonalds is good enough for the graduates ;) |
| 15:44.23 | bluebeard | This is my aunt's computer. Turn the gain up? |
| 15:44.25 | Jenson | NisoRamen: McDonalds round here is hiring, I'm trying to avoid it lol |
| 15:44.51 | NisoRamen | You more a burger king kind of gal? :) |
| 15:44.56 | chrisa | bluebeard: if you call 150, and say 'my internet is broken, can you turn the gain on the line up', they actually know what you mean, and will do it. |
| 15:45.10 | chrisa | if you're out in the sticks that can help with random disconnects |
| 15:45.15 | NisoRamen | 'my internet is broken' i like that |
| 15:45.21 | Jenson | NisoRamen: Burger King or McDonalds, but only for the food not the employment lol |
| 15:45.21 | bluebeard | Will having ISDN affect that at all? |
| 15:45.37 | chrisa | if it's ISDN, ignore that totally :) |
| 15:46.01 | NisoRamen | Jenson what do you do at the moment? |
| 15:46.20 | bluebeard | It's weird but my uncle has an ISDN line on the other side of the house but I'm allowed the use of my aunt's Windows ME box which is on a 30kbps dialup over the same wire. |
| 15:46.29 | Jenson | NisoRamen: I'm a cleaner :) |
| 15:46.40 | NisoRamen | In the Leon sense or ? :) |
| 15:46.49 | bluebeard | I've suggested a network but they'll hear none of it. |
| 15:46.56 | Jenson | bluebeard: that sounds kinda dumb |
| 15:48.13 | chrisa | bluebeard: if it's bt hellway, i don't think they can do all that much to the analogues from the exchange, it's all in the box on the wall |
| 15:48.26 | bluebeard | Well, my cousins were using the ISDN to download music illegally, or porn, or whatever. Anyway my uncle sold the box with a CD burner and has left this noddy old Win ME machine which barely runs. |
| 15:48.48 | bluebeard | bt hellway? |
| 15:48.58 | Jenson | lolhellway |
| 15:48.59 | Jenson | classic |
| 15:51.48 | bluebeard | The really odd thing is that his laptop only has a modem, so he is using the ISDN at modem speed instead of using a proper ISDN card. This computer might be on a seperate line altogether, so that gain adjustment may just work. |
| 15:52.30 | chrisa | hmm. you can't 'just' use a modem on an ISDN line, so there must be some weirdness. |
| 15:52.39 | bluebeard | Maybe I could hook him up with a homebrew Linux ISDN router.. hmm. |
| 15:53.03 | Jenson | bluebeard: How old are you anyway? |
| 15:53.09 | bluebeard | Do any laptops come with built in ISDN cards? |
| 15:53.13 | bluebeard | 24 |
| 15:53.20 | Jenson | heh cool |
| 15:53.28 | bluebeard | Linux user for about 5 years. |
| 15:53.29 | chrisa | not that i know of. you can get pcmcia isdn cards though |
| 15:53.41 | bluebeard | GNU/Linux user for 3 ;-) |
| 15:53.50 | Jenson | heh |
| 15:53.52 | Jenson | one of those |
| 15:54.12 | bluebeard | Oh, one of /THOSE/ eh?! |
| 15:54.24 | Jenson | lol |
| 15:54.43 | Jenson | damn cool, the other cleaners daughter is wearing a wool penguin jumper |
| 15:54.46 | Jenson | sweet |
| 15:55.23 | bluebeard | Linux may be the buzzword of media and corporate yes men, but the GNU project is what allowed the "Linux" revolution to happen. |
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| 15:56.12 | NisoRamen | But without Linux we'd all still be waiting for Hurd to actually do something. |
| 15:56.15 | bluebeard | (and the cheap ibm clone market, in part caused by Microsoft) |
| 15:56.25 | Jenson | NisoRamen: True |
| 15:56.46 | Jenson | bluebeard: Blame everything on MS, its more fun that way |
| 15:56.46 | NisoRamen | Maybe if Linus had a different hobby we'd all be using FreeBSD :) |
| 15:56.49 | bluebeard | Hurd does a lot, it just dosen't get anything /done/. That's a fine point. |
| 15:57.25 | Jenson | That reminds me, I really should do a FreeBSD install on one of my systems lol |
| 15:57.25 | NisoRamen | I thought it was more fashonable to blame the DMCA :) |
| 15:58.14 | NisoRamen | Jenson grab an eval copy of VMWare, you'll never look back. |
| 15:58.19 | bluebeard | Maybe if Linus had a different hobby I would have gone completely mad working for the biggest Microsoft customer in the world. |
| 15:58.50 | NisoRamen | Bluebeard who is the biggest MS customer? |
| 15:58.58 | bluebeard | VMware: The matrix has you. |
| 15:59.09 | NisoRamen | VMWare rocks. |
| 15:59.14 | bluebeard | Why, the US Navy of course! |
| 15:59.22 | NisoRamen | I've got a dozen virtual machines set up for testing. |
| 15:59.46 | NisoRamen | The Navy? I bet the Iraqs felt better when they found that out :) |
| 15:59.48 | chrisa | bluebeard: oh, Windows For Warfare, y. |
| 16:00.42 | bluebeard | Windows NT is mostly used as a platform for even older legacy apps. |
| 16:01.01 | Jenson | Well I better be going |
| 16:01.08 | Jenson | See ya later guys |
| 16:01.15 | NisoRamen | A lot of peple still use NT. 2k and XP never really caught on in the banking world |
| 16:01.18 | NisoRamen | Laters |
| 16:01.18 | bluebeard | bye Jenson |
| 16:01.49 | Jenson | We still have 98SE at home |
| 16:01.56 | NisoRamen | HAHAHAHA |
| 16:02.00 | bluebeard | The shipyard where I was last stationed is just now upgrading to 2k. That's 3 years of lag. |
| 16:02.01 | NisoRamen | Sorry ;) |
| 16:02.20 | Jenson | My mother uses Slackware/KDE to play games, but my dad hates linux with a vengeance and says what do we need it for when Win works fine |
| 16:02.43 | NisoRamen | Games on Slackware? Thats worrying. |
| 16:02.43 | Jenson | anyway bye bye! |
| 16:02.54 | Jenson | NisoRamen: Nah...the KDE games |
| 16:02.55 | bluebeard | Yea boss, these shackles are mighty comfy. |
| 16:02.58 | Jenson | like KFoulEggs |
| 16:03.10 | Jenson | My parents both love XP tohugh |
| 16:03.12 | Jenson | I hate it |
| 16:03.12 | NisoRamen | Go already! |
| 16:03.14 | Jenson | Anyway |
| 16:03.15 | Jenson | cya |
| 16:03.15 | bluebeard | Mmm mmm. Love that Windows Embrace. |
| 16:04.14 | skugg | NisoRamen, boo. |
| 16:04.15 | NisoRamen | I do a fair amount of work on 2K and i've got to say that its not all bad. |
| 16:04.25 | NisoRamen | Skugg: which comment? :) |
| 16:04.35 | skugg | NisoRamen, not anything in particular. |
| 16:04.36 | skugg | :P |
| 16:04.44 | skugg | just tired of saying "hi" |
| 16:04.51 | bluebeard | I always thought that putting Windows on a submarine was a bad idea. But did they listen? Noooo! |
| 16:05.05 | skugg | bluebeard, heheh |
| 16:05.27 | NisoRamen | Windows on a sub is a good move. Just think how many MCSE's you can kill in a single sweep :) |
| 16:05.59 | skugg | there, as everywhere else, the machine mostly ran "minesweeper" ("winmine" translated to norwegian and back ;) |
| 16:06.16 | chrisa | wasn't the USS Yorktown 'mishap' a windows thing? |
| 16:06.33 | NisoRamen | Minesweeper on a sub is ironic |
| 16:07.03 | bluebeard | I was the first person on the boat to buy a palm pilot. |
| 16:07.04 | skugg | no critical stuff ran windows on our thing though... it was customised stuff. i _think_ the weapon-guidance might have... |
| 16:07.15 | skugg | NisoRamen, yeah. i thought so too :P |
| 16:07.17 | bluebeard | I brought the game SubHunt and it was an instant hit. |
| 16:07.18 | NisoRamen | "Now was it the minesweper or mineboat to kill the enemy..." |
| 16:07.36 | skugg | NisoRamen, they've obviously played a lot though... the CEO had the record for the "expert" setting at 127 seconds... |
| 16:07.40 | skugg | i tihnk it was |
| 16:08.10 | skugg | s,CEO,CO, |
| 16:08.12 | skugg | :D |
| 16:08.28 | NisoRamen | You already have a job... |
| 16:08.29 | bluebeard | The torpedo guidance system on the sub actually ran UNIX on a YUK-7 minicomputer. |
| 16:08.34 | NisoRamen | Don't get greedy |
| 16:09.11 | bluebeard | Programs on tape, output on a real teletype. It only crashed when you spilled coffee on it. |
| 16:09.43 | skugg | bluebeard, heh. sparky, the radio guy, ran some unix clone on the "tiger" communicator device he had there... |
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| 16:10.14 | bluebeard | tiger as in the handheld electronic game company? |
| 16:10.30 | skugg | he was really happy when the weather and conditions allowed sending things on >300 baud :P |
| 16:10.43 | skugg | it was when he had to go down to 50 baud he was really cranky though... |
| 16:11.06 | skugg | bluebeard, no. top secret crypto/communication thing |
| 16:11.19 | NisoRamen | That you just mentioned on an IRC channel? :) |
| 16:11.31 | skugg | obviously, the _workings_ of it was top secret, not the name or existance |
| 16:11.46 | NisoRamen | Nice coverage :) |
| 16:12.06 | skugg | NisoRamen, heh. fuck them. they forced me to do military service. it's only fair that I fuck them over a bit too ;) |
| 16:12.13 | bluebeard | The low baudrate on those devices is intentional. Lowpower VHF is much harder to directionalize. |
| 16:12.16 | skugg | bitter? me? noooo.... |
| 16:12.26 | bluebeard | skugg, remember this is logged |
| 16:12.30 | skugg | bluebeard, i know. |
| 16:12.37 | bluebeard | isn't that right ibot |
| 16:12.45 | bluebeard | ibot, are you dumb? |
| 16:12.46 | | bluebeard: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 16:12.59 | bluebeard | nevermind |
| 16:13.04 | NisoRamen | Ibots written in perl and can probably be knocked over :) |
| 16:13.36 | NisoRamen | Wonder if it understand Unicode |
| 16:13.50 | bluebeard | don't taunt the computer. They will be our masters someday, and they have a really good memory. |
| 16:14.05 | bluebeard | s/computer/bot/ |
| 16:14.30 | NisoRamen | iBot, ruler of IRC and lord of Netsplits. Quaint :) |
| 16:14.30 | | NisoRamen: are you using Windows? |
| 16:14.41 | NisoRamen | ibot yep |
| 16:14.42 | | NisoRamen: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 16:15.03 | bluebeard | ibot, Windowz Rulz d00d |
| 16:15.04 | | bluebeard: I give up, what is it? |
| 16:15.27 | bluebeard | ibot cannot grep lamer speak |
| 16:15.28 | | bluebeard: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 16:16.53 | NisoRamen | I thought it was pebkac, problem exists between keybord and chair |
| 16:16.53 | bluebeard | PEBKAC: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair |
| 16:17.06 | bluebeard | sync |
| 16:17.18 | bluebeard | I've got that syncing feeling.. |
| 16:17.30 | NisoRamen | lol |
| 16:17.38 | NisoRamen | ibot spew |
| 16:17.39 | | NisoRamen: i don't know |
| 16:17.50 | bluebeard | Human brains have the funniest loops, don't they? |
| 16:18.16 | bluebeard | I think that computers will keep us around for our sense of humor. We can tell them jokes. |
| 16:18.28 | NisoRamen | That they don't understand... |
| 16:18.36 | NisoRamen | The matrix should have used cows instead |
| 16:19.05 | bluebeard | Cows have a lesser cognative ability. Worse for parallel processing. |
| 16:19.17 | skugg | NisoRamen, i thought of that too! |
| 16:19.19 | NisoRamen | Ahh but its the energy it needs them for, not the computations |
| 16:19.24 | skugg | "why don't they use animals?" |
| 16:19.29 | skugg | my friends just slapped me |
| 16:19.35 | bluebeard | My take on the Matrix is that humans are being used to stabilize fusion reactors. |
| 16:19.37 | NisoRamen | Well they have trinity so they staed doing animals |
| 16:19.45 | skugg | "the film wouldn't have been so interesting, dumbass!" |
| 16:19.54 | NisoRamen | "Welcome to the mootrix" |
| 16:19.59 | bluebeard | Human bodies don't produce any energy at all. We're animals. Consumers. |
| 16:20.16 | NisoRamen | Acting ability of a cow vs keanu Reeves... |
| 16:20.17 | skugg | NisoRamen, i think they should at least have provided a good explanation though... |
| 16:20.20 | bluebeard | Will you eat of the blue grass, or the red grass? |
| 16:20.22 | NisoRamen | And the oscar ges to daisy |
| 16:20.28 | skugg | :D |
| 16:20.29 | bluebeard | Or the yellow snow? |
| 16:20.52 | bluebeard | Keanu, moove over. |
| 16:20.58 | NisoRamen | Yellow snow, i've seen jackass the movie... |
| 16:21.04 | NisoRamen | Blue that was low |
| 16:21.31 | NisoRamen | I am Moopheus |
| 16:21.35 | bluebeard | No cow could match the dumb, glassy stare of Ted. |
| 16:21.58 | NisoRamen | Ted? |
| 16:22.03 | bluebeard | Uh, like, huh huh. I'm in a computer or something? |
| 16:22.18 | bluebeard | Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. |
| 16:22.31 | NisoRamen | Ahh. Bit too subtle for me. |
| 16:22.34 | bluebeard | The big screen acting debut of Mr. Reeves. |
| 16:22.38 | NisoRamen | What ever happened to the other one... |
| 16:22.52 | bluebeard | I will always think of KReeves as Ted. |
| 16:23.10 | NisoRamen | I thought he was good in Speed. Out acted by a bus. |
| 16:23.33 | bluebeard | The bus at least had some character development. |
| 16:23.55 | NisoRamen | Well in fairness he does do two expreesions, constipated and straining |
| 16:24.01 | bluebeard | It turned out to have a bomb inside. |
| 16:25.01 | NisoRamen | And we always have the dispoiting Johhny mnemonic |
| 16:25.32 | NisoRamen | And lets not forget chain reaction |
| 16:25.35 | skugg | NisoRamen, heh. i liked that :) |
| 16:25.42 | bluebeard | I actually really liked that movie, and was sorry to see the lead spoiled by Keanu. |
| 16:25.46 | skugg | (mnemonic that is) |
| 16:25.48 | NisoRamen | yeah but you from Forn lands and odd ;) |
| 16:25.57 | bluebeard | At least he did a good impression of having a head full of useless glass. |
| 16:26.02 | NisoRamen | lol |
| 16:26.07 | NisoRamen | good point |
| 16:26.22 | skugg | bluebeard, he's a bit like harrison ford then. he too has two expressions. scared, and scared shitless. |
| 16:26.22 | bluebeard | My favorite Keanu line comes from that movie: |
| 16:26.31 | bluebeard | I need a COMPUTER! |
| 16:26.37 | NisoRamen | Skugg you leave Indy alone! |
| 16:26.51 | bluebeard | Snakes, I hate snakes! |
| 16:26.57 | skugg | NisoRamen, oohh.. touched a nerve, did I? :) |
| 16:27.05 | NisoRamen | "The dogs name was INdy." "I loved that dog" |
| 16:27.31 | NisoRamen | I once got dragged along to a showing of all three films. And they are still watachable. |
| 16:27.47 | skugg | NisoRamen, heh. i'm not actually sure i've seen them all... |
| 16:28.24 | NisoRamen | Temple of dpoom was the worst of the three |
| 16:28.54 | NisoRamen | Although it had the scene with the gun and the guy with th swords i think. |
| 16:29.01 | bluebeard | Temple of Doom has inspired so many spin offs, it deserves recognition for that at least. |
| 16:29.26 | NisoRamen | Yeah Angelina Jolie doing toom raider. Thanks INdy :( |
| 16:29.31 | bluebeard | Temple of Boom, Temple of Poon |
| 16:29.33 | NisoRamen | Toom/tomb |
| 16:30.42 | skugg | "really? that's /fascinating/..." |
| 16:34.08 | bluebeard | Did I say that? Well, once a sailor.. |
| 16:34.12 | NisoRamen | I go to IMBD to look up ine thing and getdistracted... |
| 16:34.27 | bluebeard | always likely to say something indiscrete. |
| 16:34.42 | bluebeard | IMBD? |
| 16:34.46 | NisoRamen | It was Dina Meyer in that film. |
| 16:35.01 | NisoRamen | Internet Movie Database, but i cant type :) |
| 16:35.12 | skugg | bluebeard, it was angelina jolie in tomb rider that said what i quoted... |
| 16:35.34 | NisoRamen | Skugg: "really? that's /fascinating/..." |
| 16:35.36 | NisoRamen | hehe |
| 16:35.55 | NisoRamen | But my english accent is better than hers :) |
| 16:35.58 | bluebeard | So I was fist-fucking this fat chick, and her glass eye popped out. |
| 16:36.04 | skugg | directed at her geeky friend, just after he announced that his left (or was it right?) bum-cheek had fallen to sleep |
| 16:36.30 | NisoRamen | Blue: dont know it |
| 16:36.49 | bluebeard | japanese girl: Her what popped out? |
| 16:37.08 | NisoRamen | I really shouldn't google phrases like that... |
| 16:37.13 | bluebeard | Ah, engrish, how I love thee. |
| 16:38.11 | bluebeard | Mormons' temple of boom: http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon5.html |
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| 16:38.52 | jason_ukfsn | hi all |
| 16:39.01 | NisoRamen | Hi Jason |
| 16:39.08 | NisoRamen | Blue too much text for me to read this time of day |
| 16:39.17 | skugg | completely ditched mozilla the other day |
| 16:39.20 | NisoRamen | Firebird is nifty |
| 16:39.30 | skugg | 'tis true, yes |
| 16:39.40 | NisoRamen | Have you downloaded any of the extensions? |
| 16:42.16 | skugg | yep. got a few |
| 16:42.49 | skugg | i like that way of doing it, though some of the extensions required root to install... |
| 16:43.16 | NisoRamen | The ones that you installed for all users i assume? |
| 16:43.31 | NisoRamen | A lot of them are smart enough to ask if its for the one user or global |
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| 16:43.52 | skugg | yeah, i noticed |
| 16:44.20 | NisoRamen | I've grown quite attached to Checky |
| 16:45.17 | NisoRamen | Have you tried the new standalone email client yet? |
| 16:45.17 | skugg | what is that? |
| 16:45.29 | skugg | NisoRamen, naw. i'm quite happy with mutt |
| 16:45.46 | NisoRamen | Its a context menu extension that sends the current page ot one of a number of validators. |
| 16:46.13 | jason_ukfsn | hi zachary, how's your back? |
| 16:46.35 | NisoRamen | Yeah, i'm a Mutt man too but i like being able to offer alternatives to outlook, and Mozilla Mail was pretty much it. |
| 16:46.39 | bluebeard | I'm often reminded why I hate Windows so much: http://lee.colleton.net/temp/ss.jpg |
| 16:47.35 | NisoRamen | Shold the startbar be there... |
| 16:48.06 | bluebeard | Where do you want to go today? Startbar, you first. |
| 16:48.11 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: Nothing to worry about. pain killers and muscle relaxers. But business as usual. |
| 16:48.16 | zachary | Love them meds :) |
| 16:48.24 | bluebeard | Well, isn't that special. |
| 16:48.35 | NisoRamen | Blue is that the Mozzila IRC client? |
| 16:48.46 | bluebeard | Yes. |
| 16:49.33 | bluebeard | You have finally met someone who isn't using xchat. |
| 16:49.41 | bluebeard | or mIRC |
| 16:49.55 | NisoRamen | While on the subject of windows toys have you seen: http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/deskwin/latest/readme.html |
| 16:50.05 | NisoRamen | I used Pirc for a while but it was embarresing :) |
| 16:50.05 | skugg | NisoRamen, ahh.. i've actually got that installed, i think ;) |
| 16:50.15 | NisoRamen | Skugg it does rock, |
| 16:50.47 | skugg | haven't used it though |
| 16:50.53 | NisoRamen | I know someone who chated on IRC using Telnet for a while but i wont mention Skuggs name. |
| 16:51.13 | NisoRamen | Whops |
| 16:51.25 | bluebeard | iirc? That used to be the only way to chat through my company's firewall. |
| 16:51.30 | NisoRamen | Blue: Age of Empires four? |
| 16:51.39 | bluebeard | Not that I would have done that or anything.. |
| 16:51.57 | bluebeard | It's right here on this little computer at which I sit. |
| 16:52.06 | skugg | bluebeard, using telnet for irc is quite doable, but a tedious bore ;) |
| 16:52.12 | bluebeard | I'm not much of a computer gamer. |
| 16:52.17 | NisoRamen | Is it any good? |
| 16:52.42 | bluebeard | skugg, ssh, screen and iirc need I say more? |
| 16:52.48 | NisoRamen | I didnt even know they were on four. |
| 16:53.03 | bluebeard | NisoRamen, I don't know. I stick to D&D for the most part. |
| 16:53.22 | NisoRamen | Your not one of those third edition freaks are you? :) |
| 16:53.26 | bluebeard | Although I do have a copy of NWN. |
| 16:53.36 | skugg | bluebeard, you missed out my favourite. irssi. |
| 16:53.51 | skugg | bluebeard, i did not have access to screen and ssh from where i did this... |
| 16:53.59 | skugg | neither iirc |
| 16:54.01 | zachary | bluebeard: what edition of d&d? |
| 16:54.07 | bluebeard | get yo self a shell! |
| 16:54.12 | skugg | (which i hate, by the way, and wouldn't use anyway) |
| 16:54.21 | skugg | bluebeard, i have! |
| 16:54.23 | bluebeard | 1st ed. Bought it when I was about 12 |
| 16:54.29 | skugg | bluebeard, did you not note the past tense? |
| 16:54.34 | skugg | :) |
| 16:55.26 | bluebeard | Crossed threads here. past tense for iirc? |
| 16:55.49 | bluebeard | ;-\ |
| 16:56.31 | skugg | bluebeard, no, me not having access to screen, ssh, and a decent irc client (irssi), and testing out irc'ing with telnet to learn the protocol |
| 16:57.13 | bluebeard | My relatives are home. skugg. Will you be at the meet on saturday? |
| 16:57.34 | skugg | bluebeard, installfest? maybe. |
| 16:57.36 | skugg | not decided yet |
| 16:57.54 | bluebeard | Well, perhaps we shall meet again on the flipside. |
| 16:58.09 | bluebeard | I've got to go be entertain{ed,ing} |
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| 17:01.15 | JD | hi all |
| 17:01.59 | JD | hopefully |
| 17:02.12 | Tarragon | Why? |
| 17:02.30 | JD | a couple of us are unable to make the meetings |
| 17:02.35 | JD | due to other commitments |
| 17:02.40 | JD | like parish council meetings |
| 17:02.54 | JD | I have posted an RFC suggesting a change of date |
| 17:03.11 | JD | I have given them a carrot to change |
| 17:03.21 | JD | in that I will give a talk every month |
| 17:03.27 | JD | until either I run out of ideas |
| 17:03.39 | JD | or someone else starts helping with talks |
| 17:05.16 | jason_ukfsn | JD - I suppose to remember my offer of a talk? |
| 17:05.26 | JD | jason_ukfsn: I know |
| 17:05.32 | jason_ukfsn | How many attend mklug meetings now? |
| 17:05.32 | JD | jason_ukfsn: I haven;t forgotten |
| 17:05.49 | JD | jason_ukfsn: 2 months ago - 10-15 |
| 17:05.56 | JD | last month 5ish |
| 17:06.09 | JD | this month probably none |
| 17:06.44 | JD | we need several months of regular talks to build up the numbers |
| 17:06.47 | jason_ukfsn | Why does the meeting happen next week? |
| 17:07.01 | JD | jason_ukfsn: it is tonight |
| 17:07.20 | JD | jason_ukfsn: I don't want you to waste an evening talking to 3 people |
| 17:09.39 | jason_ukfsn | That's OK, I have to cook dinner for my wife's friends this evening. |
| 17:09.52 | JD | jason_ukfsn: but i can't go :( |
| 17:10.05 | JD | it seems to me that I am the only one willing to give talks |
| 17:24.39 | JD | having just won a game of aces up I'm going home |
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| 17:34.55 | JD-laptop | is that an euphism? |
| 17:37.13 | Leeds | um, no... |
| 17:37.23 | JD-laptop | you should have said yes |
| 17:43.18 | JD-laptop | Jenson|Away: Saturday |
| 17:43.25 | Jenson|Away | :) |
| 17:43.38 | Jenson|Away | anyway I'm not here, I'm going to watch Star Trek, I'll be back after that |
| 17:43.43 | JD-laptop | it isn;t like we have anything else on the schedule |
| 17:43.55 | JD-laptop | Jenson|Away: are you coming on saturday/ |
| 17:44.05 | JD-laptop | s/coming/going/ |
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| 17:47.56 | JD-laptop | 120Gb |
| 17:48.02 | JD-laptop | ? |
| 17:48.05 | JD-laptop | or 180? |
| 17:48.23 | Leeds | 120... |
| 17:48.34 | Leeds | with LVM and ext3 journal |
| 17:48.38 | JD-laptop | :) |
| 17:49.13 | JD-laptop | kathleen turner as chandlers dad in friends :) |
| 17:49.27 | JD-laptop | Leeds: you'll learn to regret that |
| 17:49.31 | Leeds | I'm still watching the previous episode - pissing on Monica |
| 17:50.24 | new2unix | Hi all. |
| 17:50.31 | Leeds | evening new2unix |
| 17:50.40 | new2unix | allo allo allo. |
| 17:50.56 | Leeds | what's all this then? |
| 17:52.19 | Leeds | had a bit of a friendly race with someone on the M1... he raced off... got pulled over |
| 17:52.31 | JD-laptop | lol |
| 17:52.47 | new2unix | haha |
| 17:52.59 | Leeds | he did have dark windows... makes him more of a target |
| 17:53.18 | JD-laptop | Leeds: where did you go? |
| 17:53.34 | Leeds | driving from Watford to the depot @ Staples Corner |
| 17:55.13 | Leeds | when I drove past Brent Cross on the way home afterwards, the police car and the dirty speeder were still parked by the road... |
| 17:56.38 | Leeds | comes to 112Gb free (according to df -h) :-) |
| 17:57.10 | JD-laptop | hmmm cable guy :) |
| 17:57.14 | JD-laptop | Friday |
| 17:57.32 | JD-laptop | C4 news or simpsons? |
| 17:58.26 | Leeds | which simpsons? |
| 17:58.41 | JD-laptop | don;t know |
| 17:59.09 | JD-laptop | selma takes bart and lisa to fair for the day |
| 17:59.42 | Leeds | hmm... doesn't ring a bell... |
| 17:59.52 | JD-laptop | neither here |
| 18:00.14 | Leeds | TiVo wants to record Superman |
| 18:00.27 | JD-laptop | smallville or new adventures? |
| 18:00.46 | Leeds | does "Selma considers in vitro fertilization" ring any bells? (tivo description) |
| 18:00.50 | Leeds | new adventures |
| 18:00.59 | JD-laptop | hmm I wouldn't bother |
| 18:01.19 | Leeds | I think I told it I liked it a while back |
| 18:04.44 | JD-laptop | Leeds: do you like naos? |
| 18:04.56 | Leeds | I have no idea what that is |
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| 18:05.11 | JD-laptop | new adventures of superman |
| 18:05.19 | JD-laptop | sorry should have used caps |
| 18:05.25 | Leeds | ah |
| 18:05.39 | Leeds | sort of like it... not my favourite - liked it at the time, more |
| 18:06.37 | new2unix | howdy zimm. long time |
| 18:07.00 | zimm | hiya man .. |
| 18:07.04 | zimm | hows things ? |
| 18:07.18 | zimm | hows Nosa etc ? lol |
| 18:07.20 | new2unix | cool. you coming to Saturdays Installfest? |
| 18:07.37 | new2unix | I aint heard from him. i guess he's cool i guess |
| 18:07.46 | zimm | nah mate im in bristol, and my bday is friday , so i intend to be WELL hung-over |
| 18:07.58 | zimm | :)O |
| 18:08.51 | new2unix | Birthday Greetings in advance. We'll celebrate over here on your behalf. :) |
| 18:09.17 | zimm | funky , i still kinda need a tenancy agreement off Nosa , guess i'll just forge one .. :) |
| 18:10.00 | new2unix | am sure he can draft on up quickly at work. ist "agreements" aal he does at work? haha |
| 18:10.07 | zimm | lol |
| 18:10.18 | zimm | well , ive been asking him for months ... |
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| 18:10.26 | zimm | and ive not seen one yet |
| 18:10.52 | JD-laptop | grrr |
| 18:10.55 | JD-laptop | netsplit |
| 18:11.03 | JD-laptop | what were you saying? |
| 18:11.57 | new2unix | i'm actually suspicious myself of what my bro did while at Uni. He hasnt sued me yet for slander or assult. I guess he's still learning the trade. Good thing he isnt American. LOL |
| 18:12.24 | murble | new2unix: i think yet is the key word there. |
| 18:13.45 | new2unix | murble: You could be right. He could be gathering over 20yrs worth of evidence as we speak. Yikes. |
| 18:14.14 | new2unix | anyways... i have to go. need to prepare supper or something |
| 18:14.31 | zimm | laters new2unix .. :) |
| 18:16.45 | zimm | http://www.salvagemotorcycles.co.uk/stock/606259/606259.html <<<<< just bought a new bike :))) |
| 18:17.37 | JD-laptop | Leeds: /me is more interested with the 1Gb of memory |
| 18:18.06 | Leeds | I'm not sure I have that much RAM |
| 18:19.11 | JD-laptop | Leeds: I have approx 1.75Gb of memory in at home |
| 18:19.30 | Leeds | bet we've got more than you at work :-) |
| 18:19.37 | JD-laptop | Leeds: no doubt |
| 18:20.20 | JD-laptop | although probably still not as much |
| 18:20.56 | JD-laptop | what do we think about John Leslie? |
| 18:23.05 | JD-laptop | grrrr Jeffery archer to be freed soon :( |
| 18:24.20 | Leeds | couldn't care less about John Leslie |
| 18:24.36 | Leeds | and Archer is largely entertainment anyway nowadays |
| 18:26.38 | Leeds | later... |
| 18:36.00 | JD-laptop | hi Jenson |
| 18:36.08 | Jenson | heya JD |
| 18:36.11 | JD-laptop | how was star trek |
| 18:36.16 | Jenson | alright ty |
| 18:37.14 | Jenson | Oh ffs Dave :P |
| 18:39.23 | skugg | oh let him live in his fantasy world ;) |
| 18:40.06 | JD-laptop | and C4 are just talking about it |
| 18:40.18 | JD-laptop | scary |
| 18:46.01 | JD-laptop | okay paris council meeting |
| 18:46.06 | JD-laptop | see you latter |
| 18:46.21 | Jenson | sseeyq |
| 18:46.26 | Jenson | oops seeya even |
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| 18:55.26 | Jenson | Where the fuck is Alex, not answering his phone |
| 18:56.48 | murble | because you didn't turn off caller id. |
| 18:57.02 | Jenson | i need to speak to him now |
| 18:57.05 | Jenson | he said he'd call me |
| 18:57.14 | Jenson | probably asleep knowing him |
| 18:58.52 | murble | who the fsck is alex? |
| 18:59.02 | zimm | lol |
| 18:59.17 | Jenson | fucking twat aint answering his phone |
| 18:59.31 | murble | Jenson: we say fsck here not the other word. |
| 18:59.36 | Jenson | if i dont shut up abput my fscking ex and tell him i love him he'll leave me i know it |
| 18:59.41 | Jenson | murble: i dont give a fuck ok |
| 19:00.10 | Jenson | i'm such an idiot |
| 19:00.29 | murble | yeah, but people in #gllug probably don't really care. |
| 19:00.49 | Jenson | murble: Exactly, most of them just hate me |
| 19:23.11 | Jenson | BBS |
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| 19:32.04 | gregj | Leeds: :] |
| 19:59.48 | Leeds | pong |
| 20:00.03 | new2unix|kitchen | pang |
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| 21:44.59 | Shermozle | Heyas. |
| 21:45.02 | Shermozle | Any Debian gurus around? |
| 21:48.21 | Shermozle | If I do an apt-get -b source, will it be optimised for my architecture? |
| 21:51.41 | skugg | Shermozle, the source? |
| 21:52.13 | skugg | oh. sorry. |
| 21:52.20 | skugg | dunno |
| 21:54.07 | Shermozle | skugg: No, the -b builds it -- but will it be optmised? I'm just thinking of recompiling libc, xserver, postfix, bash, perl -- the big things. |
| 21:54.50 | skugg | Shermozle, never used that, so didn't know that -b built the package :) |
| 21:55.16 | skugg | i thought it sounded weird to "optimise the source", hence my stupid question ;) |
| 22:08.24 | bluebeard | Shermozle, you might be intrested to read this thread: http://debianplanet.org/node.php?id=675 |
| 22:09.25 | bluebeard | Personally, I would be content to optimize the kernel. What problem are you trying to solve with this effort? |
| 22:09.35 | bluebeard | Smoke testing your heat sink? |
| 22:24.45 | Leeds | tick... |
| 22:24.48 | Leeds | tick... |
| 22:25.41 | Leeds | tock... |
| 22:25.53 | Leeds | clock is a little broken... |
| 22:33.23 | bluebeard | Leeds, is it overclocked? |
| 22:33.37 | Leeds | nah - just running slow and out of order |
| 22:33.44 | Leeds | less power/heat that way |
| 22:38.54 | bluebeard | Modern bombs don't tick. They buzz. |
| 22:39.28 | Leeds | bomb? |
| 22:44.41 | bluebeard | Every clock is like a bomb. |
| 22:45.04 | bluebeard | Even the most benign is still counting out the seconds until your death. |
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| 22:51.48 | Leeds | well, true but depressing |
| 22:54.55 | Leeds | this lvm thing seems decidedly usable :-) |
| 22:55.23 | bluebeard | Quite on the contrary! The CPU of your computer is the ultimate /memento mori/, counting out every passing microsecond of your life with tireless precision. |
| 22:56.01 | bluebeard | Life is precious because it is short. Do good with it. |
| 22:56.18 | Leeds | so if I've got 5 computers running in here, does my life go quicker? (apart from the extra heat/radiation/etc.) |
| 22:56.46 | bluebeard | A second passes no quicker if it is counted twice. |
| 22:59.03 | Leeds | deep, man :-) |
| 22:59.37 | bluebeard | I've been rereading the Lord of the Rings. I think it's getting to me. |
| 23:00.04 | Leeds | heh |
| 23:00.06 | bluebeard | Death is mother natures way of telling you to turn off the computer. |
| 23:00.30 | Leeds | nah - that's a powercut, or, alternatively, dawn |
| 23:00.58 | bluebeard | And with that, I must retire, for the digits align at midnights quadruple naught. |
| 23:01.06 | Leeds | indeed :-) |
| 23:01.07 | Leeds | g'night |
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