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| 08:05.33 | dankolb | Morning |
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| 08:07.16 | SPQR | mornin' |
| 08:08.22 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 08:08.55 | SPQR | how are you this morning? |
| 08:09.27 | SPQR | morning bru |
| 08:09.55 | dankolb | I'm a bit blah. |
| 08:10.17 | SPQR | summer flu? |
| 08:10.29 | dankolb | No. Just generally feeling down. |
| 08:10.53 | SPQR | heh. Me too. (puts back his face smile) |
| 08:11.17 | SPQR | I had to take care of the littlies last night and only got to bed at 1 |
| 08:12.53 | dankolb | :-/ |
| 08:20.01 | dankolb | fun |
| 08:20.54 | SPQR | yup :/ |
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| 08:24.35 | zachary | moin |
| 08:24.42 | SPQR | yup... ps. don't do pull ups if you're asked too.... |
| 08:24.46 | SPQR | mornin' |
| 08:25.36 | dankolb | Heh |
| 08:25.54 | SPQR | I was able to do about 3 :P |
| 08:26.02 | dankolb | :) |
| 08:27.15 | zachary | SPQR: More than I can do. Well maybe put a beer above my head for incentive. |
| 08:27.23 | SPQR | lol |
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| 08:27.52 | SPQR | I only had the stars for incentive (what little could be seen through the clouds) |
| 08:35.15 | dankolb | heh |
| 08:48.39 | JD | morning |
| 08:50.35 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 08:52.36 | SPQR | 'allo |
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| 09:01.25 | dankolb | Hi markhe_ |
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| 09:08.33 | Xiaoqi | good morning |
| 09:14.26 | SPQR | morning : Xiaoqi |
| 09:16.07 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: hiya |
| 09:16.25 | Xiaoqi | i have just deferred my exam until august |
| 09:16.41 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : health reasons? |
| 09:17.04 | Xiaoqi | or lack of health to be more precise |
| 09:17.08 | SPQR | lol |
| 09:17.08 | Xiaoqi | yeah |
| 09:17.58 | Xiaoqi | i may be able to get to the exam, but there is no way that i will be able to function enough to write anything meaningful |
| 09:18.31 | SPQR | :( Have ya tried any homopathic remadies? |
| 09:18.55 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: not yet - trying the normal tried and tested ones first |
| 09:19.32 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: i'm one funny little blue and white pills and i don't want to take anything tht may interfere with them |
| 09:19.47 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : Its something to think about. It might acctualy work as well :) |
| 09:20.21 | Xiaoqi | i know, and i know that your mum is very into them, but i don't believe in them very much. |
| 09:21.04 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : I know, I do know that some of them work ver well :) But its up to you :) |
| 09:21.09 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: both my parents work in the medical profession. i like knowing whats in my medication and being able to see the results of studies to tell me what any side efects are |
| 09:21.33 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: i am just very sceptical |
| 09:21.34 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : true, so its cool :) |
| 09:21.43 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 09:21.51 | Xiaoqi | david has gone :( |
| 09:22.11 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : I know, I'm talking to him on the phone now :) |
| 09:22.19 | Xiaoqi | off in search of money i think... |
| 09:22.26 | Xiaoqi | hehe, say hi from me!!!!! |
| 09:22.57 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : have done :) He sais hello :) |
| 09:25.36 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 09:25.46 | Xiaoqi | just had to ring my advisor :( |
| 09:26.13 | Xiaoqi | he wasn't there, so i had to converse with the answering maching. |
| 09:26.25 | Xiaoqi | i don't like answering machines |
| 09:26.32 | SPQR | grr. me neither... |
| 09:27.56 | dankolb | Answering machines are evil. I hang up on them. |
| 09:30.48 | SPQR | me to. I can't be bothered with them... |
| 09:32.41 | Xiaoqi | answering machines suck |
| 09:32.55 | Xiaoqi | aargh |
| 09:33.04 | Xiaoqi | mpw i have to email more people |
| 09:33.13 | Xiaoqi | s/mpw/now |
| 09:33.26 | SPQR | Xiaoqi : maybe ya should setup an email bot? :) |
| 09:33.43 | Xiaoqi | erm... can i get this one working first? |
| 09:33.46 | Xiaoqi | seeing as |
| 09:33.50 | Xiaoqi | I already have email |
| 09:34.52 | SPQR | hehe, k :P |
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| 09:36.38 | Xiaoqi | hi ross |
| 09:36.51 | Xiaoqi | SPQR: did you get your email working? |
| 09:37.41 | zimm__ | hi Nikki |
| 09:37.48 | zimm__ | hows things ? |
| 09:38.31 | SPQR | not yet. David and I are going to set it up when he's got his domain hosting going.. |
| 09:38.40 | SPQR | hey zimm_ |
| 09:38.47 | zimm_ | heya ... |
| 09:39.02 | Xiaoqi | zimm_: i've been better, but i'll cope :) |
| 09:39.20 | Xiaoqi | hehehe, oops |
| 09:39.43 | zimm_ | bloody "power" button on the keyboard , right next to the "enter" button .. |
| 09:40.06 | zimm_ | i keep hitting it with my little finger ... |
| 09:40.54 | Xiaoqi | hmm... does seem a silly place to put it |
| 09:41.31 | Xiaoqi | like putting the 'big red button for nuclear war' on the microwave |
| 09:41.38 | zimm_ | heh , yeh lol |
| 09:42.16 | Xiaoqi | aargh, silly people who are supposed to be supporting me aren't in!! |
| 09:42.25 | zimm_ | what makes it worse is that i had to ring the boss to ask for the damn password .. so i could login again ... |
| 09:42.38 | zimm_ | Xiaoqi awww . |
| 09:42.43 | Xiaoqi | zimm_: hmm... have you written it down for next time? |
| 09:42.50 | zimm_ | Xiaoqi yup :) |
| 09:42.58 | Xiaoqi | hehe :) |
| 09:43.14 | zimm_ | and believe me , there WILL be a a next time :) |
| 09:43.31 | Xiaoqi | i gathered from you saying 'again' earlier |
| 09:43.46 | Xiaoqi | zimm_: i got my bot sort of working |
| 09:43.53 | zimm_ | Xiaoqi yeh ? funky :) |
| 09:44.20 | Xiaoqi | it still only talks in /m but it does say stuff when people log in or out of the room |
| 09:44.23 | Xiaoqi | i think |
| 09:44.54 | Xiaoqi | i have to get /dcc working properly before i have the full range of options with it |
| 09:50.31 | dankolb | Heh |
| 09:50.50 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: morning |
| 09:51.05 | Xiaoqi | (for once it is actually morning when i say that!) |
| 09:51.09 | dankolb | :) |
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| 09:51.43 | Xiaoqi | how goes it? |
| 10:26.22 | zachary | dankolb: Do you have your presentation available in pdf? |
| 10:27.19 | dankolb | Yes. I've exported it. Just need to sync my website, which I will do tonight. |
| 10:28.03 | zimm | anyone know anyone who is any good at doing stuff in flash ? |
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| 10:29.43 | zachary | thanks dan |
| 10:29.51 | dankolb | No problems :) |
| 10:31.08 | zachary | Install fest announcements should go out this weekend. Daughter has been really fussy, more teeth breaking through the gums. |
| 10:31.25 | skugg | zachary, oh joy. get any sleep? :) |
| 10:32.08 | zachary | brb |
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| 10:37.44 | zachary | skugg: sleep is for the weak! |
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| 11:24.33 | dankolb | hi eye69, sarahe, Clyphox |
| 11:25.06 | Xiaoqi | sarahe: hi here too! |
| 11:26.27 | Clyphox | rar |
| 11:31.03 | eye69 | dankolb: Hi |
| 11:31.18 | eye69 | dankolb: Got most things working now...I think the bandwidth limiting is working too |
| 11:31.29 | dankolb | Excellent :) |
| 11:40.46 | Clyphox | pf fun ? |
| 11:40.55 | dankolb | pf very fun :) |
| 11:42.45 | Xiaoqi | what is pf? |
| 11:42.56 | skugg | anyone going to ukuug conference? |
| 11:43.11 | Clyphox | Ive no money to join :-( |
| 11:43.16 | dankolb | http://benzedrine.cx/pf.html |
| 11:43.19 | Clyphox | Only 2hrs away :-( |
| 11:43.25 | skugg | Clyphox, that sucks. |
| 11:43.29 | dankolb | skugg: I'd like to. If they actually sent me UKUUG appliation forms |
| 11:43.33 | Xiaoqi | how much is it? |
| 11:43.38 | skugg | Xiaoqi, not that much. |
| 11:43.44 | skugg | dankolb, heh. |
| 11:44.17 | Xiaoqi | Clyphox: maybe we can? |
| 11:44.29 | Clyphox | maybe :-( |
| 11:44.36 | Xiaoqi | Clyphox: you did really want to go |
| 11:44.50 | Xiaoqi | is there a url? |
| 11:45.08 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: can't you apply online? |
| 11:45.20 | dankolb | Yes. They send you application forms then |
| 11:45.23 | dankolb | Supposedly. |
| 11:45.39 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 11:45.45 | Xiaoqi | really useful then |
| 11:46.01 | skugg | oh well. i've got to go into uni now. |
| 11:46.06 | skugg | exam soon :( |
| 11:46.06 | dankolb | have fun :) |
| 11:46.09 | dankolb | Oh :( |
| 11:46.23 | skugg | not very important one, but no fun nonetheless |
| 11:46.43 | Xiaoqi | skugg: good luck!!! |
| 11:46.50 | Xiaoqi | exams suck!! |
| 11:46.51 | skugg | Xiaoqi, thanks :) |
| 11:47.01 | dankolb | Yeah, gl |
| 11:47.15 | skugg | dankolb, very apt. it's actually on OpenGL :P |
| 11:47.24 | dankolb | :) |
| 11:47.31 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 11:47.56 | Xiaoqi | i cancelled my exams!! |
| 11:48.06 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 11:48.07 | Xiaoqi | :( |
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| 11:49.19 | Xiaoqi | wb |
| 11:49.32 | denivri | :) |
| 11:49.38 | dankolb | Eek! He talks! |
| 11:49.48 | Xiaoqi | who does? |
| 11:49.54 | dankolb | denivri: |
| 11:50.01 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 11:50.10 | denivri | heh |
| 11:50.24 | Xiaoqi | its an inside-out irvined!! |
| 11:50.37 | dankolb | No, just back-to-front |
| 11:50.39 | cup | Anyone know where to start to get the touch pad thing working on a laptop under linux? |
| 11:50.42 | Xiaoqi | maybe denivri should say ih instead of hi |
| 11:50.51 | dankolb | Or not. |
| 11:50.55 | Xiaoqi | hmm |
| 11:50.57 | Xiaoqi | oh well |
| 11:51.33 | JD | David, do you think you could have a consistant nick? |
| 11:51.51 | JD | cup: should show up as a standard mouse |
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| 11:52.42 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: have fun |
| 11:52.59 | Xiaoqi | JD: hiya! |
| 11:53.01 | cup | oh so it does! :) |
| 11:54.58 | Xiaoqi | Davilion: wb |
| 11:55.31 | Davilion | heh thanks |
| 11:55.41 | Davilion | started removing duplicate me's and closed the wrong terminal window |
| 11:55.52 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 11:56.20 | Xiaoqi | so you were trying to stop your clones from taking over the channel? |
| 11:57.25 | Davilion | yeah |
| 11:57.32 | Davilion | thats the trouble with being omnipresent. |
| 11:57.58 | Xiaoqi | ah... |
| 11:58.02 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 12:19.03 | JD | hi all |
| 12:19.47 | JD | Davilion: could you just have one nick? |
| 12:19.57 | JD | maybe run screen? |
| 12:20.11 | Davilion | JD: i could |
| 12:20.14 | Davilion | in fact inormally do. |
| 12:20.25 | Davilion | but then i got carried away and had too many screen's |
| 12:20.31 | Davilion | then i decided i still prefer xchat |
| 12:20.45 | Xiaoqi | JD: hiya |
| 12:23.30 | cup | JD: about the touchpad, what should the driver and protocal lines say? |
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| 13:45.10 | Davilion | quiet in here today |
| 13:45.28 | IkeKrull | yes it is |
| 13:49.18 | dankolb | Fairly quiet |
| 13:51.30 | IkeKrull | hey yeah it is sunny out there.. |
| 14:01.05 | JD | anyone know what international dialing code is 42? |
| 14:01.13 | dankolb | The Universe |
| 14:01.21 | JD | thank you |
| 14:02.49 | dankolb | You're welcome |
| 14:04.15 | JD | Czech republic |
| 14:04.18 | Davilion | heh |
| 14:06.56 | JD | support for one of our software packages just phoned back form 0042...... |
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| 14:27.56 | Xiaoqi | the sherrif did it! |
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| 14:32.29 | dankolb | Hi gubbs|afk |
| 14:33.34 | Xiaoqi | ello dan |
| 14:35.26 | dankolb | hi Xiaoqi |
| 14:35.46 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: how goes it? |
| 14:36.07 | dankolb | Meh. Tolerable. |
| 14:36.24 | dankolb | :) |
| 14:36.34 | Xiaoqi | i have hobnobs if you want some? |
| 14:37.41 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: i am trying to find a job for Clyphox. it is VERY difficult |
| 14:38.20 | dankolb | i have ice cream |
| 14:38.36 | Xiaoqi | yey!! |
| 14:38.42 | Xiaoqi | icecream GOOD!!! |
| 14:38.58 | dankolb | mint |
| 14:39.06 | Xiaoqi | even better!!! |
| 14:39.17 | Xiaoqi | mint choc chip is my favourite!! |
| 14:39.25 | cup | arg! my music only works when I move the mouse! |
| 14:39.45 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 14:39.47 | Xiaoqi | why? |
| 14:39.48 | zachary | dankolb: Don't mention icecream with a pregnant woman hawking behind me. |
| 14:40.19 | dankolb | So I shouldn't say it had chocolate in it too? |
| 14:40.35 | zachary | Yea, that would also be bad! |
| 14:41.06 | dankolb | Okay :) |
| 14:41.10 | zachary | Jess wants to know if you would stop by(with icecream of course). |
| 14:41.32 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: any chance of a trip up to visit me with some too? |
| 14:41.54 | dankolb | I'll stick it in the post :) |
| 14:42.12 | zachary | please use lots of dry ice. |
| 14:42.19 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 14:43.23 | dankolb | Heh :) |
| 14:43.55 | zachary | Xiaoqi: Return to sender :) |
| 14:44.12 | gubbs|afk | hey dankolb. |
| 14:44.22 | gubbs|afk | hus? |
| 14:44.24 | gubbs|afk | disgusting. |
| 14:44.30 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 14:44.32 | dankolb | :) |
| 14:44.50 | Xiaoqi | gubbs|afk: cashew or pistachio? |
| 14:45.03 | gubbs|afk | Xiaoqi: LOL |
| 14:45.21 | gubbs|afk | find me a hairy nut and I'll show you a good time. |
| 14:45.46 | gubbs|afk | http://dingo.fudo.org/~gubbs/screenshot-vmware.jpg |
| 14:45.57 | gubbs|afk | Xiaoqi: bah!! cheat! |
| 14:46.04 | Xiaoqi | why? |
| 14:46.08 | Xiaoqi | it's a nut with hair |
| 14:46.51 | Clyphox | hmm.. blackbox with docs.. |
| 14:47.13 | gubbs|afk | fluxbox. |
| 14:47.14 | gubbs|afk | ;) |
| 14:47.18 | gubbs|afk | blackbox is for wankers. |
| 14:48.32 | Xiaoqi | hi Clyphox |
| 14:50.22 | Clyphox | fluxbox is for wankers |
| 14:50.27 | Clyphox | blackbox is for men! |
| 14:50.30 | Clyphox | :-P |
| 14:50.37 | gubbs|afk | post op perhaps. |
| 14:51.02 | gubbs|afk | anyway ... |
| 14:51.08 | gubbs|afk | you'll be telling me you use Slackware next. |
| 14:51.09 | gubbs|afk | lol |
| 14:51.16 | Clyphox | *nod* |
| 14:51.22 | Clyphox | slackware and pkgsrc! |
| 14:51.36 | Clyphox | best of both worlds.. muahahahhaa |
| 14:51.44 | gubbs|afk | if you say so. |
| 14:52.02 | gubbs|afk | I have had more fun with inflatable Liz the lover's chum. |
| 14:52.14 | Clyphox | Whats wrong with slack? |
| 14:52.23 | gubbs|afk | its shyte, and pointless. |
| 14:52.33 | gubbs|afk | typical masochist distro. |
| 14:53.17 | Clyphox | eh? |
| 14:53.31 | Xiaoqi | gubbs|afk: Clyphox is my fiance, the one who i told you uses slack |
| 14:53.44 | gubbs|afk | Xiaoqi: hehe yeah, just dont let him talk you into enjoying it. ;) |
| 14:54.07 | Clyphox | Xiaoqi uses slackware :-) |
| 14:54.08 | Xiaoqi | gubbs|afk: i haven't used other ones yet |
| 14:54.18 | Xiaoqi | i like this one so far |
| 14:54.53 | IkeKrull | i like slackware |
| 14:55.25 | zachary | bbl |
| 14:55.26 | Clyphox | it just works. no bullshit |
| 14:55.34 | IkeKrull | it works well, especially on older hardware |
| 14:55.46 | gubbs|afk | so does dos. |
| 14:56.05 | IkeKrull | gubbs|afk: nothing wrong with DOS if thats all your app requires |
| 14:56.18 | gubbs|afk | as I said. |
| 14:56.22 | gubbs|afk | masochism. |
| 14:56.40 | gubbs|afk | borne from a misguided idea that if you make it hard for yourself, it makes you cooler. |
| 14:56.42 | gubbs|afk | :) |
| 14:57.19 | gubbs|afk | you'r somehow more 'intellectual' if you waste 50 extra hours mastering a crappy package manager. |
| 14:57.34 | IkeKrull | i dunno, i never found installing packages on slack difficult |
| 14:58.05 | gubbs|afk | that'll be why so many people use it. |
| 14:58.06 | gubbs|afk | ;) |
| 14:58.39 | IkeKrull | you could say the same thing about Linux, doesn;t mean its no good |
| 14:59.13 | zimm | linux does at least have definite advantages over its rival's ..; |
| 14:59.31 | Xiaoqi | hi zimm |
| 14:59.38 | IkeKrull | zimm yeah but you can;t really claim ease of use or mass appeal are among them |
| 14:59.51 | IkeKrull | which seems to be the perceived problems with slackware |
| 14:59.57 | zimm | no , but therte is a point to persevering with it .. |
| 15:00.07 | zimm | with slack , i see no point .. |
| 15:00.17 | zimm | hi Xiaoqi |
| 15:01.47 | IkeKrull | hehe well, i think thats your problem, not slackware's |
| 15:03.14 | zimm | what advantage does slack have over any other distro ? redhat/mdk are easier to use , gentoo is faster,debian is just sex .... why persevere with slack ? |
| 15:04.10 | Xiaoqi | zimm: why is debian sex? |
| 15:04.25 | IkeKrull | because it is less bloated than RH/MDK, doesn;t require a broadband connection and fast CPU like gentoo and i've never used debian so couldn;t comment |
| 15:04.36 | IkeKrull | yeah, why is debian sex? |
| 15:04.46 | zimm | because its dependancy resolution rox, and its soo simple to install/remove apps , it just works .. |
| 15:05.14 | dankolb | And is liable to trash things if you screw around too much |
| 15:05.17 | zimm | it can be as minimal as you want , or have everything on it .. |
| 15:05.34 | zimm | dankolb: yeh , like that doesnt apply to ALL distro's ? |
| 15:05.51 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 15:05.52 | dankolb | Well...yeah. |
| 15:06.01 | IkeKrull | so you think debian should be the only linux distro? |
| 15:06.02 | dankolb | But you were saying Debian was like sex |
| 15:06.50 | zimm | IkeKrull: i never said that .. |
| 15:07.20 | IkeKrull | zimm: so there is a place for other distros but not slackware? |
| 15:07.23 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 15:07.52 | zimm | i never said that either ,, i just said that i couldnt see the point in using it ,, and asked what the point was , ... as yet i havent had an answer . |
| 15:08.21 | zimm | except that it works on old hardware , which debian does as well |
| 15:08.49 | zimm | hell , you can even run debian with a bsd kernel if you REALL:Y wanted to |
| 15:08.57 | IkeKrull | the point is that it is a consistent, well laid out and modular distribution that works well across a wide range of hardware and is one of the most mature distros available |
| 15:09.17 | zimm | yeh , its old .. |
| 15:09.22 | zimm | anyway ... |
| 15:09.34 | zimm | laters chaps |
| 15:09.34 | IkeKrull | debian may share some or all of those features, but that doesn't invalidate slackware's approach |
| 15:20.54 | Clyphox | I just use slackware-pkgsrc |
| 15:21.21 | Clyphox | that way I get all my linux kernel Pluses.. and a better-than-debian package system |
| 15:29.02 | zimm|afk | better how ? |
| 15:29.17 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 15:29.26 | Xiaoqi | brb - food search |
| 15:33.17 | IkeKrull | zimm|afk: i'm guessing, if debian was a car, itd be a porsche, right? :) |
| 15:33.28 | zimm|afk | nope |
| 15:33.39 | zimm|afk | well , .. |
| 15:33.43 | zimm|afk | maybe .. |
| 15:34.40 | zimm|afk | the beauty of a porsche isnt so muc h the driving as the fact that they are as reliable as a normal car , have a 30 year production history , and still out-do most things on the road .. so yeh maybe .. |
| 15:35.47 | zimm|afk | lol |
| 15:35.50 | dankolb | You may wait |
| 15:35.50 | JD | zimm|afk: but I have a reason for that |
| 15:35.57 | JD | dammit |
| 15:36.02 | zimm|afk | JD: which is ? |
| 15:36.30 | JD | zimm|afk: slackware is pretty much developed by one person aiui |
| 15:36.46 | JD | zimm|afk: the slackware community is dependant on him |
| 15:37.04 | JD | to a) release new packages and distros |
| 15:37.10 | dankolb | Yes. No-one would take over if Pat left now, would they? |
| 15:37.11 | JD | and b) not give up and go home |
| 15:37.31 | dankolb | Just like no-one takes over the Debian project when they change leaders |
| 15:37.32 | JD | dankolb: how many people actually develop slackware? |
| 15:38.00 | dankolb | Only a few. But does that matter? Other people can fairly easily take over |
| 15:38.02 | JD | slackware died once before |
| 15:38.45 | JD | dankolb: Debian has approx 500-1000 developers |
| 15:38.51 | dankolb | The development was slowed down, true |
| 15:38.59 | dankolb | Yes, and look how often they release, compared to Slackware. |
| 15:39.07 | zimm|afk | anyway , i never said i hate it , just that i see no reason to use it ...and none of the reasons given so far are in any way convincing |
| 15:39.12 | dankolb | So don't use it. |
| 15:39.15 | JD | dankolb: and look how stable it is compared to slack |
| 15:39.16 | dankolb | Simple, really. |
| 15:39.26 | dankolb | Err....no difference? |
| 15:39.32 | Xiaoqi | erm... i have only ever used slack |
| 15:39.35 | JD | dankolb: and indeed I don't :) |
| 15:39.35 | dankolb | Other than Slack always worked for me, and Debian didn't? |
| 15:39.46 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 15:39.52 | IkeKrull | i see no reason to use debian, but i don;t go round saying its pointless |
| 15:39.56 | zimm|afk | dankolb: i dont .. anyway ,,, i didnt start this conversation .. im just giving my reasons for my opinion ,, |
| 15:39.59 | JD | dankolb: not to mention package management :) |
| 15:40.03 | Xiaoqi | ooh, laptop is trying to burn my tummy |
| 15:40.14 | IkeKrull | because some people must see the point, if they continue to use it, just like slackware |
| 15:40.22 | dankolb | Exactly. |
| 15:40.30 | dankolb | I have no reason to use Debian |
| 15:40.36 | zimm|afk | so dont |
| 15:40.37 | zimm|afk | simple |
| 15:40.39 | zimm|afk | :P |
| 15:40.39 | dankolb | I don't :) |
| 15:40.44 | IkeKrull | me neither :) |
| 15:40.45 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 15:40.52 | Xiaoqi | why are you arguing? |
| 15:41.04 | JD | so we are all in agreement then that slackware is pointless and we should all use Debian? |
| 15:41.05 | Xiaoqi | you all seem to be saying the same thing over and over |
| 15:41.07 | JD | right |
| 15:41.10 | dankolb | JD: No. |
| 15:41.13 | dankolb | Read the conversation. |
| 15:41.15 | Xiaoqi | JD: no |
| 15:41.22 | dankolb | Xiaoqi: Welcome to the wonderful world of distro wars. |
| 15:41.38 | JD | so we are all in agreement then that Debian is pointless and we should all use slackware? |
| 15:41.39 | dankolb | Where the same points are repeated and laboured over and over again. |
| 15:41.42 | JD | right |
| 15:41.43 | Xiaoqi | distro wars? |
| 15:41.54 | dankolb | "My distro is better than your distro, so nyerrr" |
| 15:41.55 | Xiaoqi | somehow doesn't sound as exciting as star wars |
| 15:42.03 | zimm|afk | some like deian , some like slack ,, im just trying to find out WHY people like slack , im in no way attempting to convert people from one distro , just understand their reasons for their choice |
| 15:42.28 | dankolb | Because it doesn't try holding your hand with package managers that solve everything for you |
| 15:42.28 | Xiaoqi | zimm|afk: because i use it and it works and i am learning to undeerstand it |
| 15:42.32 | JD | so we are all in agreement then that Redhat is pointless and we should all use slackware or Debian? |
| 15:42.43 | dankolb | It's up to you to actually learn about the system |
| 15:43.01 | zimm|afk | dankolb: ahh the ,, "i want to waste time and look l33t" argument , fair enough |
| 15:43.05 | dankolb | Also, if you break it, it's often more fixable than other distros with package management |
| 15:43.17 | Xiaoqi | zimm|afk: i want to learn l33t! |
| 15:43.20 | zimm|afk | Xiaoqi: thats a fair reason :) |
| 15:43.23 | dankolb | No, not the 'look l33t' argument. The spend time learning without hand-holding. |
| 15:43.23 | JD | dankolb: how do you work that one out? |
| 15:43.40 | JD | dankolb: which is why I use Debain |
| 15:43.44 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: i like that reason - i want to learn! |
| 15:43.45 | zimm|afk | debian uses rpm's ? news to me |
| 15:43.59 | JD | zimm|afk: you should have rpm installed |
| 15:44.15 | JD | parguild020 david% which rpm |
| 15:44.16 | JD | /usr/bin/rpm |
| 15:44.28 | zimm|afk | what for , ? everything is available in debs ... or i build from source .. |
| 15:44.31 | Xiaoqi | rpm - revs per minute? or am i missing something fundamental? |
| 15:44.32 | zimm|afk | anyway , i gotta go .. |
| 15:44.38 | dankolb | RedHat Package Mangler |
| 15:44.40 | zimm|afk | laters all . |
| 15:44.42 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 15:44.48 | JD | so we are all in agreement then that celery is pointless and we should all eat chocolate? |
| 15:44.50 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 15:44.54 | Xiaoqi | yes |
| 15:44.59 | IkeKrull | Yeah, why not |
| 15:45.08 | JD | excellent |
| 15:45.14 | JD | meeting ajourned |
| 15:45.19 | dankolb | There's problems building from source on a package-mangled distro |
| 15:45.24 | JD | ? |
| 15:45.31 | dankolb | Can screw up dependencies |
| 15:45.50 | JD | dankolb: dh-make |
| 15:45.58 | dankolb | Bah :-P |
| 15:46.00 | Xiaoqi | as in programs that depend on one-another? |
| 15:46.01 | JD | dankolb: equivs |
| 15:46.29 | JD | dankolb: first makes a package out of source, the second makes a dummy package |
| 15:46.44 | dankolb | ./configure ; make ; make install |
| 15:46.46 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:46.47 | JD | these problems have been sorted in Debian |
| 15:46.55 | Xiaoqi | i can't open my crisp packet :( |
| 15:46.59 | JD | dankolb: dh-make && debuild |
| 15:47.00 | dankolb | Or even better: cd /usr/ports/foo/bar ; make install |
| 15:47.08 | dankolb | Xiaoqi: Send it to me |
| 15:47.14 | JD | dankolb: apt-source foo |
| 15:47.20 | JD | dankolb: apt-source install foo |
| 15:47.32 | IkeKrull | emerge -u foo? |
| 15:47.33 | dankolb | :) |
| 15:47.50 | Xiaoqi | bag, not ag |
| 15:47.53 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 15:48.13 | JD | IkeKrull: that is real "I am l33t and too busy to use my computer cos I'm still compiling the installer" |
| 15:48.23 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 15:49.01 | IkeKrull | JD: I really liked gentoo while I was running it, particularly for playing media files and stuff |
| 15:51.12 | IkeKrull | it is really good if you want the very latest versions of everything, all the time.. but I agree it isn't the best solution for many linux users |
| 15:51.20 | JD | IkeKrull: I could never see any advantage of it over debian |
| 15:51.55 | JD | Sid, pentium-builder and apt-{source,build} works just as well |
| 15:51.59 | IkeKrull | JD: it probably doesn;t have any advantage, it just happened that i saw it, liked the sound of it, installed it, and used it |
| 15:53.05 | IkeKrull | had debian been 'marketed' - and i use the term loosely, as a 'cutting edge' distro, i might have chosen it instead |
| 15:53.38 | dankolb | What are your reasons? |
| 15:53.40 | JD | Packages, Free, up to date or stable |
| 15:53.57 | dankolb | Slack has all of them :) |
| 15:54.08 | JD | Packages? |
| 15:54.14 | dankolb | It has some packages |
| 15:54.25 | JD | does it have 10,000+? |
| 15:54.50 | dankolb | It generally doesn't need them :) |
| 15:54.58 | JD | do they just work together? |
| 15:55.22 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 15:56.54 | JD | dankolb: send me a slack CD and I'll install it |
| 15:57.26 | Clyphox | JD: I'll send you one |
| 15:57.28 | IkeKrull | i have Slack 9.0, got it on magazine cover |
| 15:57.33 | Clyphox | gah |
| 15:57.40 | Clyphox | nothing at all wrong with 8.1 imo |
| 15:57.59 | JD | sorry just checked 3.4 |
| 15:58.15 | IkeKrull | haven't installed it, i run redhat on this box :) |
| 15:58.33 | Clyphox | JD: I used to run that once.. heh |
| 15:58.35 | JD | IkeKrull: I have good reasons against Redhat |
| 15:58.37 | Stephen | *cough* DedRat *cough* :p |
| 15:58.55 | JD | or any RPM distro |
| 15:58.57 | IkeKrull | JD: sure, i have had problems with it myself in the past |
| 15:59.43 | IkeKrull | but i don;t have a decent connection here, so i wanted something with most of the stuff i would need on CD, and when it came down to SuSE vs Redhat in the shop, i'm afraid i went with what was cheaper |
| 16:01.21 | IkeKrull | in hindsight, i would probably have been better off with slackware, but the magazine wasn't out then |
| 16:05.11 | JD | IkeKrull: I've done sid over dialup |
| 16:05.43 | IkeKrull | JD: yeah but i'm paying per minute, and at the time i didn;t even have reliable access to a phone line |
| 16:05.53 | IkeKrull | i'm a kiwi stuck without a job in london :) |
| 16:06.52 | JD | IkeKrull: like wise poor student |
| 16:07.00 | IkeKrull | and in a perfect world i would have a mac powerbook running OS X, an SGI Octane and a couple of grunty x86 machines running Gentoo but the sad reality is i have a 166Mhz laptop and thats all |
| 16:07.26 | dankolb | An SGI Indy |
| 16:07.57 | Stephen | you have an Indy? why? |
| 16:08.00 | IkeKrull | back home i was going to get an Indy but I blew up the engine in my car and had to spend the money on that |
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| 16:08.42 | Stephen | one of my friends here has an indy, dunno why though, already has two SparcStations |
| 16:09.05 | IkeKrull | hehe i had a Mac IIfx running A/UX |
| 16:09.34 | dankolb | Stephen: Why not? |
| 16:09.45 | dankolb | Hm. A/UX. I need to download that |
| 16:09.50 | Stephen | *shrug* |
| 16:10.48 | IkeKrull | A/UX is interesting. ancient, but suprisingly advanced. Its incredible how badly wrong Apple went when they dumped it to focus on System 7 etc. |
| 16:11.14 | JD | IkeKrull: will it run KDE? |
| 16:11.30 | IkeKrull | JD: no, it will run Apache and Perl though |
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| 16:11.52 | IkeKrull | JD: it also runs most old mac software for System 6/7 |
| 16:12.02 | IkeKrull | and has a bundled X server sorver |
| 16:12.16 | IkeKrull | oops delete that 'sorver' :) |
| 16:12.58 | IkeKrull | anyway, i doubt there are many OSes circa 1990 that will run KDE |
| 16:13.26 | IkeKrull | and if it did run, would you really want to run it on a 25Mhz 68030 |
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| 16:13.33 | IkeKrull | with 24MB of RAM |
| 16:13.41 | IkeKrull | i know I wouldn't :) |
| 16:13.59 | IkeKrull | Hell, i don;t want to run KDE full stop |
| 16:27.47 | JD | I kinda package it for Debian |
| 16:33.17 | Xiaoqi | grr... |
| 16:33.50 | dankolb | He does |
| 16:33.54 | Xiaoqi | finally learn how to telnet to stupid bot, and still can't find command to make stupid bot respond to commands on my channel |
| 16:33.58 | Xiaoqi | grrr |
| 16:34.00 | gubbs_ | hehe I read about a bunch of Americans who went off and had themselves tatoooed with it after watching Gladiator. |
| 16:34.09 | dankolb | Heh :) |
| 16:34.11 | dankolb | fules |
| 16:34.12 | gubbs_ | "huh, huh, this means hard as fuck right? huh huh." |
| 16:34.12 | Xiaoqi | is SPQR here? |
| 16:34.30 | dankolb | Romanes eunt domus? |
| 16:34.32 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 16:34.57 | dankolb | *pockets some hardware and goes home* |
| 16:35.21 | gubbs_ | I bet you never have to buy a new pc again ... |
| 16:35.33 | dankolb | Only for the company... |
| 16:35.42 | Xiaoqi | dankolb: hehe, pocketing stuff is good |
| 16:35.52 | Xiaoqi | hmm... |
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| 16:39.13 | dankolb | Righty. I'm off home now |
| 16:39.14 | dankolb | C'ya |
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| 16:42.30 | Clyphox | hello Administator :-) |
| 16:45.05 | zimm | lol |
| 16:45.40 | Clyphox | You thinki its funny eh?? :-) |
| 16:46.16 | zimm | resuDaed: my box online at yours ? or have you ripped it to bits ? |
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| 16:50.56 | JD | hometime |
| 16:51.05 | zimm | laters JD |
| 16:51.10 | SPQR | same here!! Later all |
| 16:51.14 | JD | bbia 10min |
| 16:51.16 | zimm | laters |
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| 17:07.57 | nasrat | evening all |
| 17:10.03 | JD | okay I was a bit longer than I thought |
| 17:10.24 | JD | I found a hub and was hooking my desktop up |
| 17:10.33 | JD | it now has internet access |
| 17:10.34 | JD | w00t |
| 17:12.11 | JD | although I see no one else cares |
| 17:13.25 | nasrat | gratz |
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| 17:13.46 | JD | hi jason |
| 17:16.15 | Xiaoqi | i have a randomword bot! |
| 17:20.57 | JD | hmmm that is fairly easy |
| 17:21.48 | Xiaoqi | i like ie |
| 17:21.50 | Xiaoqi | it |
| 17:21.58 | Xiaoqi | i know it's easy, but it's fun |
| 17:22.04 | JD | if you want I could add it to my client |
| 17:22.25 | Xiaoqi | this is it's latest one |
| 17:22.27 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.52 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.55 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.58 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.01 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 17:23.04 | JD | david-laptop david% perl /tmp/randomword.pl |
| 17:23.05 | JD | Bonn |
| 17:23.05 | JD | david-laptop david% perl /tmp/randomword.pl |
| 17:23.05 | JD | proposal |
| 17:23.05 | JD | david-laptop david% perl /tmp/randomword.pl |
| 17:23.06 | JD | torn |
| 17:24.05 | JD | open WORDS, "</usr/share/dict/words" or die "bah $!"; |
| 17:24.07 | JD | my @words = <WORDS>; |
| 17:24.07 | JD | print $words[int(rand(@words))]; |
| 17:24.11 | JD | close WORDS; |
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| 17:26.02 | JD | perl is way too easy to abuse |
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| 17:26.19 | JD | which is why I hate it |
| 17:27.49 | Xiaoqi | hmm |
| 17:28.11 | JD | what/ |
| 17:28.31 | JD | bye then |
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| 17:31.03 | JD | wb |
| 17:31.25 | Jenson | ty |
| 17:31.39 | JD | np |
| 17:35.37 | Jenson | JD: how are you? |
| 17:35.59 | JD | not bad |
| 17:36.09 | JD | I have a desktop machine connected to the internet now too |
| 17:36.24 | Jenson | cool |
| 17:36.57 | JD | although it is going to spend the next 6 hours downloading |
| 17:38.55 | Xiaoqi | i don't think it stays running if i use the terminal for anything else |
| 17:39.35 | IkeKrull | use screen or nohup if you want stuff to keep running |
| 17:40.35 | Xiaoqi | erm... ok, wrong window. oops |
| 17:40.38 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 17:41.41 | IkeKrull | anybody here want to test my app for me? |
| 17:41.48 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.52 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.59 | Xiaoqi | sorry, playing with my random word bot |
| 17:42.35 | IkeKrull | it requires SDL, SDL_image, expat and GTK2 and is an isometric tile editor |
| 17:42.53 | IkeKrull | it can be found at www.pblack.uklinux.net |
| 17:43.15 | A4266 | 'lo |
| 17:44.01 | Jenson | hey |
| 17:44.05 | Jenson | oooh time for Buffy |
| 17:44.17 | A4266 | hehe. cya in a few min :) |
| 17:44.51 | Xiaoqi | i have galic programming on thursdays :( |
| 17:45.05 | A4266 | galic programming?? |
| 17:45.15 | Jenson | i'll be back at 7:30 |
| 17:45.17 | Xiaoqi | yeah, programs in galic |
| 17:45.40 | A4266 | didn't know they did them in galic... |
| 17:45.45 | JD | Gay Bar |
| 17:46.06 | Xiaoqi | hmm... |
| 17:46.11 | A4266 | what is it with the gay bar thingy? *hasn'r seen it yet..* |
| 17:46.16 | Xiaoqi | with english subtitles |
| 17:46.19 | A4266 | *hasn't |
| 17:46.27 | JD | freaky freaky |
| 17:46.29 | Xiaoqi | A4266: come meet my new bot! |
| 17:46.40 | A4266 | oklies :) |
| 17:50.06 | JD | ibot: google for gay bar electric six video |
| 17:51.04 | A4266 | cheers... |
| 17:51.51 | JD | have you heard the song yet? |
| 17:52.09 | A4266 | noy yet :/ |
| 17:52.40 | A4266 | I'll dl it in a sec :) |
| 17:53.52 | A4266 | dl'ing it now |
| 17:56.33 | JD | song or video? |
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| 17:57.40 | A4266 | song for now |
| 17:57.44 | A4266 | hey Leeds |
| 17:57.56 | Leeds | evening A4266 |
| 17:58.14 | Xiaoqi | 19:02 * Semiquaver desires ferocious rebarbative frisbee |
| 17:58.28 | Xiaoqi | sorry |
| 17:58.40 | A4266 | heh |
| 17:58.41 | Xiaoqi | i really should stop playing |
| 17:58.52 | JD | yep |
| 17:59.01 | Xiaoqi | sorry |
| 17:59.21 | JD | or I'll start playing with my 4line perl script |
| 17:59.37 | Xiaoqi | u can if u want :) |
| 18:00.13 | JD | hmm food |
| 18:00.14 | JD | rb |
| 18:00.22 | Xiaoqi | may i just post one more, and then i will stop??? |
| 18:02.03 | JD | okay |
| 18:02.04 | JD | just make it quick |
| 18:07.46 | JD | looks like interesting times ahead |
| 18:07.54 | Leeds | it gets sillier and more confusing every day |
| 18:08.05 | Xiaoqi | ok |
| 18:08.10 | JD | yep this is about the Novell and LinuxTag stuff |
| 18:08.12 | Xiaoqi | here's one |
| 18:08.16 | JD | Leeds: do you read LWN? |
| 18:08.25 | Leeds | duh |
| 18:08.26 | JD | Xiaoqi: about time |
| 18:08.35 | Xiaoqi | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.45 | Xiaoqi | i was looking at another window |
| 18:09.16 | Leeds | touch bedtime stories? |
| 18:09.26 | Xiaoqi | erm... not my words |
| 18:14.41 | JD | er is 238M going to take a long time over a dialup? |
| 18:15.02 | Leeds | um, maybe... |
| 18:15.24 | Leeds | 13.5 hours, at 5kbyte/sec? |
| 18:15.40 | JD | nearer 2.5-3 |
| 18:16.10 | Leeds | so double that... |
| 18:20.57 | JD | damn this 10mbit network sucks |
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| 18:24.53 | JD | damn it is warm |
| 18:25.24 | Leeds | yup |
| 18:25.44 | Leeds | warmer in Bagdad... |
| 18:27.08 | JD | I'm sure it is |
| 18:27.22 | JD | damn placebo are good |
| 18:27.33 | Leeds | no they're not - it's just in your mind |
| 18:27.52 | JD | lol |
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| 18:28.28 | JD | they just played a song on MTV2 |
| 18:28.36 | JD | like an old one form 1997ish |
| 18:28.43 | JD | and it is still fantastic |
| 18:28.52 | Jenson | which song? |
| 18:30.39 | JD | Pure Morning |
| 18:30.46 | JD | Placebo |
| 18:31.08 | Leeds | ah yes |
| 18:31.59 | Jenson | oooh, i like that song |
| 18:32.23 | JD | and te one before it |
| 18:33.16 | A4266 | heya Beks |
| 18:33.47 | Jenson | wb hon |
| 18:33.50 | Jenson | Nice email |
| 18:34.10 | A4266 | oh sh1t. I have acctualy seen the electrix six - gay bat video already!! |
| 18:34.17 | A4266 | :) |
| 18:34.23 | Leeds | Lincoln in the gym... |
| 18:34.30 | A4266 | just reliesed it now as I was litening to the song... |
| 18:35.25 | JD | scary shit aint it |
| 18:35.31 | A4266 | heh, ya |
| 18:35.52 | A4266 | brb. Gotta go and teach my folks how to use a laptop.. |
| 18:35.53 | Leeds | ah-ha... plumber is here |
| 18:35.54 | JD | yet they won't show the Foo fighters new video before 9 |
| 18:36.04 | JD | after all this time? |
| 18:36.06 | JD | they are slow |
| 18:36.15 | JD | good thing it is summer |
| 18:36.24 | Leeds | didn't come this morning... he had to take the dog to the vet |
| 18:36.54 | Leeds | and I'm too lazy to have called him before yesterday |
| 18:37.04 | JD | oh |
| 18:38.08 | Jenson | grrr, still freezing |
| 18:39.37 | zimm | grrrr, still starving |
| 18:40.02 | Jenson | Well, I'll get ya food if ya get me someone warm to snuggle with lol |
| 18:40.40 | JD | Jenson: huddle round the back of your computer |
| 18:40.45 | JD | next to the fans |
| 18:40.48 | JD | then you will be warm |
| 18:41.08 | Jenson | JD: I would put the heating on, but I know full well its not really cold |
| 18:41.56 | zimm | Jenson: you been double dosing anti-depressants again ? |
| 18:42.21 | Jenson | nope |
| 18:42.37 | Jenson | maybe its the pill, the pill is making me fat |
| 18:43.25 | JD | Jenson: I doubtvery much that you will be obese by the time I see you next |
| 18:43.35 | Jenson | I'm so tired, but not coz I dont get enough sleep, because i sleep too much |
| 18:43.49 | Jenson | JD: Don't bet on it, my mother thinks I'm fat now....but Alex says I'm not |
| 18:43.51 | JD | well don't sleep so much then |
| 18:44.03 | JD | Jenson: you are a skinny little runt |
| 18:44.06 | Leeds | argh |
| 18:44.13 | Leeds | all girls think they're fat |
| 18:44.40 | zimm | Leeds: doesnt mean they are all thin though , |
| 18:44.41 | JD | Leeds: some actually are |
| 18:44.45 | Jenson | lol |
| 18:44.57 | Jenson | zimm: You're thin, esp since you lost weight |
| 18:45.00 | Leeds | yeah, I know that... |
| 18:45.10 | zimm | Jenson: yeh , but i aint a girl :P |
| 18:45.19 | Jenson | zimm: I think I knew that |
| 18:45.23 | Leeds | zimm: really? |
| 18:45.24 | JD | just a big girls blouse? |
| 18:45.24 | zimm | mm .. |
| 18:45.36 | zimm | JD: aye , thats me :) |
| 18:45.37 | JD | :) |
| 18:49.02 | JD | that is a bit of change of status since the last time I talked to you |
| 18:49.54 | Jenson | oh BTW, have you got a new g/f...someone told me you had....forget who, either Ross or Alex |
| 18:50.05 | JD | I wish |
| 18:51.32 | Jenson | Someone told me you said you were taking your g/f to Reloaded with you |
| 18:51.44 | JD | ex |
| 18:52.08 | Jenson | Ah, now it makes sense to me |
| 18:52.13 | Jenson | Someone didnt paym attention lol |
| 18:53.17 | Xiaoqi | how is everyone? |
| 18:54.23 | Leeds | reading SCO/Linux stuff... it's just weird... surreal, almost |
| 18:54.38 | JD | Leeds: LWN? |
| 18:54.51 | JD | the patent stuff s interesting |
| 18:54.52 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.56 | JD | oh |
| 18:55.16 | zachary | I think SCO wants to be baught out. |
| 18:55.19 | JD | there is a link to the bloke that actually looked at who owns what patents |
| 18:55.23 | Leeds | no, really? |
| 18:55.48 | JD | zachary: and qucik before it gets its arse whipped by linuxTag and novell and others for libel |
| 18:56.17 | JD | hmmm only 149M to download |
| 18:56.22 | JD | looks like I saved myself some |
| 18:57.31 | JD | but not much |
| 18:58.50 | A4266 | down to about 10 hours now? |
| 18:59.10 | JD | apt says 13h8m36s |
| 18:59.42 | A4266 | does any1 know a local rate isp for dial ups that don't require subscription and and can be used anywhere in the country? |
| 18:59.46 | A4266 | heh |
| 19:00.01 | Xiaoqi | A4266: nope, sorry |
| 19:00.06 | Jenson | why? |
| 19:00.44 | A4266 | I need it for my mom's laptop. The 1 I had has been discontinued... |
| 19:01.03 | JD | A4266: try usfsn :) |
| 19:01.19 | A4266 | JD : cheers :) |
| 19:01.33 | Jenson | A4266: Why not just subscribe to a new one |
| 19:02.31 | A4266 | screw subscribing :P To many ppl have my details already!!! |
| 19:02.43 | Jenson | lol |
| 19:02.46 | Xiaoqi | hehe |
| 19:03.02 | Xiaoqi | i hate to think how many people have my details |
| 19:03.09 | A4266 | I've got another number to try :) |
| 19:03.12 | A4266 | hehe |
| 19:03.27 | A4266 | brb. Gonna go try the number now. |
| 19:04.03 | Xiaoqi | Jenson: how has your day been? do anything interesting? |
| 19:04.45 | Jenson | Xiaoqi: Watched X-Men 1.....went out for a walk in the sun, ended up on the internet in the town library emailing everyone, came home |
| 19:05.05 | Xiaoqi | sounds good |
| 19:05.23 | JD | slackers |
| 19:05.28 | Xiaoqi | did you like xmen1? |
| 19:05.35 | Xiaoqi | JD: pthth |
| 19:06.22 | Jenson | yeh, although watching it before XMen2 might have made more sense lol |
| 19:06.45 | JD | not really |
| 19:07.47 | Jenson | Yeh, but Wolverine and the whole metal claw things is just damn sexy |
| 19:10.04 | JD | rogue is sexy |
| 19:10.55 | Jenson | JD: And get whcichever part of you frozen odd |
| 19:10.59 | Jenson | erm off |
| 19:11.21 | JD | er wrong person |
| 19:11.37 | JD | you may be thinking of iceman |
| 19:11.55 | Jenson | nah rogue is the freezy one |
| 19:11.56 | JD | rogue steals life force |
| 19:12.07 | Jenson | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.10 | Jenson | process |
| 19:12.43 | JD | no just puts them into a coma |
| 19:14.02 | Jenson | yeh well, still, you dont want that happening to parts of your bod |
| 19:14.02 | Jenson | body |
| 19:14.03 | JD | bbiab |
| 19:14.07 | Jenson | cant type today |
| 19:14.36 | JD | I would take Anna Paquin anyday |
| 19:17.24 | Xiaoqi | hi - sorry had phonecall |
| 19:21.59 | Jenson | BRB - gonna reboot so I can use Win MX |
| 19:25.39 | JD | Gay Bar |
| 19:26.06 | Xiaoqi | JD: i don't think so |
| 19:26.24 | JD | lol |
| 19:26.34 | Xiaoqi | i can ask my random bot |
| 19:26.47 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 19:26.52 | JD | no it is on again |
| 19:28.08 | Xiaoqi | huh? |
| 19:29.16 | JD | Gay Bar |
| 19:29.26 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 19:29.29 | Xiaoqi | not good |
| 19:29.44 | JD | what? |
| 19:29.59 | Leeds | winmx is a p2p file-stealing tool |
| 19:30.20 | JD | ah right |
| 19:30.21 | Leeds | and the plumber has thrown me out of the kitchen because he's having trouble and doesn't want me watching him :-) |
| 19:30.30 | Xiaoqi | hehehe |
| 19:30.51 | JD | i THOUGHT jENSWAS JUST BEING CRAP AT TYPING AGAIN |
| 19:31.07 | JD | like me |
| 19:31.29 | Leeds | he's trying to replace a part which screws right into the back of the boiler - he's taken the old one off and can't get the new one on, since he's having to contort to get to it, and do it by feel |
| 19:32.08 | JD | I've had it for nearly 2 years |
| 19:32.29 | Leeds | I... don't have it |
| 19:32.41 | JD | maybe I should have a reading hour |
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| 19:35.47 | murble | good evening? |
| 19:35.57 | JD | murb |
| 19:36.02 | Leeds | so-so... hi |
| 19:36.04 | JD | ! |
| 19:36.10 | JD | how is belgium? |
| 19:36.25 | murble | o idea. |
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| 19:36.31 | murble | s/o/no/ |
| 19:36.41 | Leeds | when is Durban?] |
| 19:36.48 | murble | I'm at home. |
| 19:36.56 | JD | oh you are just lying |
| 19:37.09 | JD | like I am in .lu |
| 19:37.25 | murble | S.Africa. |
| 19:37.27 | Leeds | and like you're *really* called "David Pashley"? |
| 19:37.58 | JD | now I'm confused |
| 19:38.10 | JD | Leeds: don't do this to me so early in the morning |
| 19:38.11 | murble | JD: no, because klepto.pho.be is in s.london. |
| 19:38.20 | murble | however i'm not. |
| 19:38.34 | murble | and i understand they are tighting up on visas with all this terrosim stuff. |
| 19:38.44 | murble | not sure if i can legaly get south of the river now dyas. |
| 19:39.11 | Leeds | suspicious character like you? good point |
| 19:40.08 | A4266 | grr |
| 19:40.25 | Leeds | woof |
| 19:40.26 | murble | Oh, i've got until 9th of june for job application. |
| 19:40.33 | murble | Is anyone going to Linux tag? |
| 19:44.24 | IkeKrull | i would go to linuxtag if i had money |
| 19:45.00 | Xiaoqi | what is linuxtag? |
| 19:45.18 | IkeKrull | linuxtag is a big(gish) linux trade show in germany |
| 19:45.28 | Xiaoqi | ah cool |
| 19:45.50 | IkeKrull | theyre also the ones who are threatening to sue SCO for sullying linux;s reputation |
| 19:46.38 | eye69_ | s/btw// |
| 19:46.55 | Leeds | I should be going to edinburgh, at least... party weekend - it's my birthday |
| 19:47.21 | Xiaoqi | Leeds: cool |
| 19:50.17 | JD | Leeds: I'll try to remember |
| 19:51.11 | JD | hopefully I'll get to meet Xiaoqi and Clyphox |
| 19:51.31 | Xiaoqi | JD: yey - i get to see who you are! |
| 19:51.34 | JD | cos you are coming down for tat weekend aren't you :) |
| 19:52.17 | Xiaoqi | i don't know |
| 19:52.19 | Leeds | boiler done... |
| 19:52.25 | Leeds | I met Clyphox... |
| 19:52.28 | Xiaoqi | i hope so, but it depends on money |
| 19:53.03 | Leeds | JD: sounded like you'd not met him |
| 19:53.35 | JD | well He might get annoyed if I only mentioned Nikki |
| 19:54.17 | Xiaoqi | hehe... Clyphox isn't paying attention |
| 19:54.30 | Xiaoqi | so i don't think he'd mind |
| 19:59.37 | Xiaoqi | which silly game? |
| 19:59.48 | JD | Aces Up |
| 19:59.56 | dankolb | It's addictive |
| 20:00.05 | Xiaoqi | ah |
| 20:00.17 | IkeKrull | hehe http://www.arie.org/doh/ |
| 20:02.24 | JD | dankolb: and also remarkably pointless and difficult |
| 20:02.27 | dankolb | Yes |
| 20:03.18 | Xiaoqi | hi dankolb |
| 20:03.19 | JD | I odn't want to think of the odds, but I have only won once and I've played tonnes of games |
| 20:18.36 | murble | JD: isdn? |
| 20:18.51 | murble | always on is ~90 quida month |
| 20:22.54 | JD | murble: forget that |
| 20:23.05 | JD | murble: I am curretly connceted at 31.2Kbit |
| 20:24.31 | JD | good? |
| 20:24.46 | skugg | the experience a bit destroyed by me being in _dire_ need to take a piss for the last hour or so :P |
| 20:25.00 | skugg | quite good. i liked the last part best |
| 20:26.36 | JD | maybe next time you will go /before/ you enter the thearte? |
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| 20:28.00 | dankolb | Hi Paul |
| 20:28.53 | JD | hi paul |
| 20:29.03 | cupis | hullo all |
| 20:29.03 | JD | cupis: have you arranged Oslo yet? |
| 20:29.27 | cupis | JD: no. Nor have I arranged Birmingham or Edinborough. |
| 20:29.32 | cupis | JD: you? |
| 20:29.49 | JD | nope |
| 20:29.50 | JD | I think we should soon |
| 20:30.03 | cupis | I agree. |
| 20:30.29 | JD | Oslo is only 6 weeks away |
| 20:30.34 | JD | 6 or 7 |
| 20:31.38 | cupis | Birmingham is on the 24th June, Oslo the 18th July, Edin no the 31st July. |
| 20:31.50 | dankolb | Oslo? |
| 20:32.07 | cupis | dankolb: Debconf 3 |
| 20:32.18 | dankolb | Ah. |
| 20:35.23 | JD | cupis: I was thinking of going to debcamp too |
| 20:35.54 | cupis | JD: it would probably be nice, but I don't know if I'll make -conf yet, let alone -camp |
| 20:37.13 | JD | ah go on |
| 20:38.15 | JD | hmmm Friday tomorrow |
| 20:38.21 | JD | I sould probably get a hair cut or something |
| 20:38.24 | cupis | One thing at a time - I need to see if I can do any of the domestic ones first. |
| 20:38.46 | JD | ah but Oslo is more fun |
| 20:39.11 | JD | stamps in passports and things |
| 20:39.22 | JD | plus when else are you going to get so many debian developers in one place? |
| 20:40.49 | cupis | well, there is that. |
| 20:44.52 | JD | why? |
| 20:46.00 | Clyphox | Cause thats how I am |
| 20:46.03 | murble | at this rate, it would be possible to be away all summer at random conferences and stuff. |
| 20:46.18 | murble | Clyphox: you've escaped london? |
| 20:46.30 | Clyphox | yeah.. not I'm TOTALLY skint too |
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| 22:07.50 | Jenson | hello dankolb |
| 22:07.58 | dankolb | 'lo |
| 22:08.15 | Jenson | How are you? |
| 22:09.25 | eye69 | dankolb: Did you see what the problem was? |
| 22:09.58 | eye69 | dankolb: I must say that it's bloody weird behaviour to not include the arguments to a range in the actual range. |
| 22:10.46 | dankolb | Yeah. Use >= instead |
| 22:13.36 | Clyphox | night all |
| 22:21.15 | Jenson | night all |
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| 22:46.16 | JD | night all |
| 22:46.54 | skugg | night jd |
