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| 07:05.03 | zachary | good morning |
| 07:12.14 | Freedevil | morning |
| 07:18.46 | SpudULike | Here is a totally valid use of technology - http://www.beermad.org.uk/ |
| 07:20.51 | zachary | SpudULike: Good resource. |
| 07:53.45 | dankolb | Morning |
| 07:53.54 | Freedevil | morning |
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| 08:05.20 | dankolb | Ahoy |
| 08:17.59 | zachary | morning dankolb |
| 08:28.39 | SPQR | ahoy matey |
| 08:28.52 | SPQR | sorry, was looking for stuff around the back |
| 08:29.44 | SPQR | bbl |
| 08:31.32 | dankolb | :) |
| 08:31.34 | dankolb | c'ya |
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| 08:45.52 | dankolb | hi JD |
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| 08:47.19 | cup | morning |
| 08:47.20 | JD | gah what happened |
| 08:47.28 | JD | morning tea set |
| 08:47.48 | JD | freenode died |
| 08:48.27 | JD | gotta go do some work in leighton BUzzard |
| 08:48.32 | dankolb | Fun |
| 08:56.28 | Freedevil | y? |
| 08:56.49 | dankolb | Want to write an RPM .spec file |
| 08:56.54 | dankolb | So I run 'emacs foo.spec' |
| 08:56.56 | Freedevil | ohh |
| 08:57.07 | dankolb | And it generates an entire template automatically |
| 08:57.32 | Freedevil | cool a template for? |
| 08:57.36 | dankolb | The .spec file |
| 08:58.13 | Freedevil | didnt know emacs could do that |
| 08:58.18 | dankolb | Neither did I |
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| 09:08.10 | nasrat | morning all |
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| 09:46.34 | dankolb | Hi sash, nasrat |
| 09:48.01 | sash | Hello |
| 09:53.17 | nasrat | dankolb: nooooo |
| 09:53.46 | dankolb | nasrat: 'emacs foo.spec', and it automatically gives you an RPM .spec template |
| 09:55.52 | nasrat | nice |
| 09:56.48 | dankolb | Extremely |
| 09:57.23 | dankolb | w00t. RAM has arrived for some machine |
| 09:57.29 | dankolb | Hopefully the U10 |
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| 10:02.35 | Shermozle | Morning |
| 10:06.05 | SPQR | mornin' |
| 10:13.35 | Shermozle | Anyone got links that explain PSU terms and explains reviews them? |
| 10:19.35 | zachary | sash: morning |
| 10:28.33 | dankolb | Shermozle: WDYM? |
| 10:28.55 | Shermozle | I want to buy a power supply but want to buy a good one that is genuinely quiet. |
| 10:29.03 | dankolb | www.quietpc.com |
| 10:29.09 | Shermozle | Not much in the way of reviews and the terms used aren't familiar to me. |
| 10:29.23 | dankolb | What terms? |
| 10:29.56 | Shermozle | "Active PFC" is the main one. |
| 10:31.22 | dankolb | Hm |
| 10:31.26 | Shermozle | Youch. £52! |
| 10:31.36 | eye69 | Power Fan Control or something |
| 10:32.25 | Shermozle | I currently have a 350W PSU, but it's crapping out. Do you think the 300W would do? |
| 10:32.45 | eye69 | I've got a 400W one, with two fans. |
| 10:32.47 | Shermozle | I have 2 CD drives, a CD burner and four hard drives. Plus a bunch of cards... |
| 10:33.00 | eye69 | AMD? |
| 10:33.01 | dankolb | And what CPU? |
| 10:33.06 | Shermozle | £86 for the 400W model. |
| 10:33.13 | Shermozle | Yeah 1.4 gig Athlon... |
| 10:33.26 | eye69 | What graphics card? |
| 10:33.33 | Shermozle | Matrox G450. |
| 10:33.36 | eye69 | I would definitely go for >300W with that setup. |
| 10:33.58 | Shermozle | Yeah I think so too... |
| 10:34.09 | Shermozle | Ouch -- expensive PSU though :( |
| 10:34.15 | Shermozle | Anyone got one? Are they really that quiet? |
| 10:35.19 | sash | zachary: Morning |
| 10:37.11 | zachary | Shermozle: Cheap and quality rarely go hand in hand. |
| 10:37.34 | Shermozle | Yeah that's true... |
| 10:37.44 | Shermozle | Just don't get paid until Friday 8) |
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| 10:56.23 | dankolb | wb |
| 10:56.38 | Clyphox | moo |
| 10:56.41 | dankolb | oom |
| 11:03.39 | Clyphox | howzit dankolb |
| 11:06.25 | dankolb | not so bad |
| 11:15.32 | SPQR | hey Clyphox |
| 11:15.37 | Clyphox | hi al |
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| 12:02.28 | zimm | ok... quick question re ADSl ,, anyone reccomend a router/modem (non-usb) ? |
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| 12:06.11 | Clyphox | I know only crap non-usb one's soz |
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| 12:06.18 | sash | Hello |
| 12:06.24 | dankolb | Hi sash |
| 12:06.40 | Clyphox | otherwise 486+ohci+speedtouch alcatel modem+netbsd |
| 12:07.10 | zimm | lol |
| 12:13.07 | zimm | mm , if i have , say , One phone socket in the house , and want each of the 4 bedrooms to have a phone socket and an ethernet socket to connect to a router/modem adsl blah ,, whats the best way to do this ? ,, wire the whole house with ethernet cable AND phone cable ? or what ? (wireless isnt an option,, least not for the lan) |
| 12:30.23 | nasrat | which fool? |
| 12:30.35 | nasrat | I'm sure I haven't posted today |
| 12:30.46 | murble | c works very well for work email as well as list. |
| 12:30.56 | dankolb | Lobster |
| 12:31.13 | dankolb | :) |
| 12:32.27 | sash | Down with skool |
| 12:32.49 | dankolb | Who needs edukashun anyway? |
| 12:33.11 | sash | You are utterly wet and a weed. |
| 12:33.17 | sash | :) |
| 12:33.24 | dankolb | :) |
| 12:33.53 | dankolb | He has an email address of @britishlibrary.net |
| 12:35.14 | murble | that is an easynet freedial up thing. |
| 12:38.33 | dankolb | That email? |
| 12:38.36 | zachary | zimm: you might be able to tie the phone line into the UTP, since 4/8 are ground cables, and the phone line uses 2 wires. Anyone know if this is a viable method. |
| 12:38.59 | dankolb | Ground should be ground |
| 12:39.02 | zimm | zachary: kinda what i was thinking ,, ... still i have no idea as to the feasibility of it . |
| 12:39.28 | dankolb | Carrying signal across ground cable *might* work over very short distances, but you'd get interference |
| 12:40.01 | zimm | oh for a budget that allowed for a wireless lan |
| 12:40.42 | zachary | can always try, and if it doesn't work, run the phone line as well. |
| 12:41.33 | zimm | yeh , guess i'll probably end up with the house wired with Cat5 , and some cheap cordless phones .,, |
| 12:41.42 | zimm | still , trial and error ,, |
| 12:41.48 | zimm | always the best way to learn , lol |
| 12:42.40 | zachary | I know that bt offers a corless phone system, with one access point that can support multiple cordless phones. |
| 12:42.53 | zachary | s/corless/cordless |
| 12:42.56 | zimm | :) |
| 12:53.15 | zachary | bbl |
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| 13:08.10 | formi | hello |
| 13:09.22 | zimm | hey formi |
| 13:52.00 | JD | hi all |
| 13:54.25 | dankolb | hi JD |
| 13:55.57 | JD | been in leighton Buzzard all day |
| 13:56.21 | JD | dankolb: what were you scared about? |
| 13:56.33 | dankolb | 'emacs foo.spec' |
| 13:56.37 | JD | oh I can read now |
| 13:56.41 | dankolb | Gives a nice RPM spec template |
| 14:00.13 | dankolb | Erhm? |
| 14:02.10 | JD | makes template debian dirs |
| 14:02.56 | dankolb | How does that help me on a Yellowdog system? |
| 14:03.37 | formi | back |
| 14:04.11 | formi | does anybody know if disabling in the kernel the 2nd ide channel on a laptop will have any repercusions? |
| 14:05.31 | JD | dankolb: cos it helps you remove yellowdog and install debian PPC |
| 14:05.45 | dankolb | But why TF would I want to break something that doesn't need fixing? |
| 14:06.12 | JD | arguably not using debian is broken :) |
| 14:06.30 | JD | ouch |
| 14:06.40 | JD | that hurt |
| 14:06.50 | dankolb | I have better things to do with my life than to re-install an OS to satisfy some petty-minded political insignificance. |
| 14:06.52 | JD | nobody throws a shoe |
| 14:06.55 | JD | you fight like a girl |
| 14:07.09 | JD | dankolb: just lart me |
| 14:07.15 | dankolb | formi: Is anything connected to /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd ? |
| 14:07.21 | JD | dankolb: I dont particularly care what people use |
| 14:07.26 | formi | dankolb: laptop |
| 14:07.27 | dankolb | Good :) |
| 14:07.32 | dankolb | ibot lart JD |
| 14:07.42 | JD | dankolb: just find it amusing to wind people up :) |
| 14:07.49 | JD | don't tke me seriously |
| 14:08.14 | dankolb | Sorry - I'm fighting with Bind |
| 14:08.21 | formi | cona = spanish slang = cunt |
| 14:08.44 | dankolb | :) |
| 14:10.05 | formi | conan = big pussy |
| 14:10.41 | formi | dankolb: obviously there is something on /dev/hdc, the hard disk |
| 14:10.57 | formi | or have you seen laptops with scsi hard-disks |
| 14:11.08 | dankolb | Then you wouldn't be able to access it if you disabled the 2nd IDE channel |
| 14:11.20 | murble | hmm UCL CERT job |
| 14:11.27 | dankolb | Did early Mac laptops have SCSI drives? |
| 14:12.28 | formi | i take back my "dankolb: obviously there is something on /dev/hdc, the hard disk" |
| 14:12.43 | nasrat | murble: cool |
| 14:12.47 | formi | i thought you were talking about hda |
| 14:13.16 | dankolb | :-) |
| 14:17.32 | JD | why? |
| 14:17.51 | JD | new job or just pissed off? |
| 14:19.28 | nasrat | latter |
| 14:20.09 | nasrat | go on holiday next week then come back and find something else |
| 14:20.19 | nasrat | or become a drunken bum |
| 14:22.09 | murble | how exciting |
| 14:22.28 | JD | drunken bum sounds good |
| 14:22.37 | JD | how much does that pay? |
| 14:22.58 | nasrat | not sure, but I hear the hours are flexible |
| 14:35.19 | Clyphox | I'm conscidering a career in that line too |
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| 14:41.34 | formi | re |
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| 14:43.47 | dankolb | re formi, sash |
| 14:44.02 | sash | Hello all |
| 14:44.05 | formi | hi sash |
| 14:45.02 | formi | i do have one of your dodgy packages |
| 14:45.49 | sash | formi Ah, it is in good company. :) |
| 14:46.23 | formi | as long as i don't try to get high on them |
| 14:47.30 | sash | Go and smoke banana peel, formi. |
| 14:48.17 | formi | sash: it is very nice indeed, if you know how to do it properly |
| 14:48.36 | formi | i could probably sell the stuff |
| 14:49.13 | formi | what about a "Formi & Shash Banana Holding Co." ?? |
| 14:51.18 | sash | How much will you pay for me to associate my good name with your dubious enterprise? |
| 14:51.33 | dankolb | Which one's your good name? |
| 14:51.43 | sash | I'm not holding any bananas. |
| 14:52.20 | sash | It should read Sash & Formi ... |
| 14:52.44 | sash | dankolb: My nom de guerre. |
| 14:52.59 | dankolb | Ah |
| 14:53.11 | sash | Sash & Formi's Banana Republic |
| 14:58.43 | formi | :-( |
| 14:58.45 | formi | why? |
| 14:58.47 | formi | F comes before the S in wester ABC... |
| 14:58.49 | formi | me has already founded the Independent Anarquist Republic of A Formiga |
| 14:58.51 | formi | aka FARAI |
| 14:59.51 | sash | Anarquist speeling? |
| 15:00.11 | sash | I'll be away for 20 mins. |
| 15:00.40 | formi | ok |
| 15:00.46 | formi | don't get lost |
| 15:21.45 | sash | Mooo |
| 15:22.04 | dankolb | oooM |
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| 15:33.21 | SpyPigeon | hiho |
| 15:33.27 | dankolb | Hiya! |
| 15:33.31 | dankolb | LTNS |
| 15:33.49 | dankolb | Ah |
| 15:38.20 | dankolb | How's life? |
| 15:39.18 | Clyphox | not binary thats for sure |
| 15:39.35 | dankolb | Ternary? |
| 15:42.26 | SpyPigeon | Well, one and half weeks away from a new job and questioning my decision :( |
| 15:42.37 | dankolb | What's the new job? |
| 15:42.45 | dankolb | And where? |
| 15:44.18 | Clyphox | heh. |
| 15:46.04 | SpyPigeon | VIctoria. Computer Artworks. |
| 15:46.22 | SpyPigeon | Writing engine & tools code for computer games |
| 15:46.33 | dankolb | Cool |
| 15:46.39 | Clyphox | Sounds fun at any rate |
| 15:49.17 | SpyPigeon | Could be (it's similar to what I've been doing here, anyway) , there's just something that doesn't _feel_ right |
| 15:50.43 | dankolb | Which is? |
| 15:53.15 | SpyPigeon | Dunno - just something |
| 15:53.23 | dankolb | Hmm. |
| 15:54.54 | SpyPigeon | But, enough of my insecurities - how's everyone else??? |
| 15:55.25 | dankolb | Writing a named.conf file |
| 15:56.48 | SPQR | afternoon all |
| 15:56.52 | SpyPigeon | Server problems or enhancements? |
| 15:57.20 | dankolb | Server room clearout |
| 15:57.34 | dankolb | Consolidating our external nameserver onto our firewall (which runs internal DNS) |
| 15:57.41 | dankolb | So upgrading from BIND4 to BIND9 |
| 15:57.50 | SPQR | dankolb : ohh, any parts going for free?? |
| 15:58.04 | dankolb | Err....don't know yet |
| 15:58.09 | SPQR | hehe :) |
| 15:58.10 | dankolb | But I'll keep you posted if you want |
| 15:58.29 | SPQR | I do want :) Cheers :) |
| 15:58.36 | dankolb | k :) |
| 15:58.47 | SPQR | brb, gotta get something for lunch!!! (hasn't had it yet) |
| 16:01.11 | SpyPigeon | I know nothing of servers, but should BIND get retired sometime soon; it always seems to be security hole-tastic :) |
| 16:01.52 | dankolb | Well....yeah |
| 16:02.05 | sash | dankolb: parts for me too? |
| 16:02.14 | dankolb | Maybe.... |
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| 16:07.58 | dankolb | Oooh :) |
| 16:08.39 | armijn | I love portupgrade |
| 16:08.53 | dankolb | *ports |
| 16:08.55 | SpyPigeon | And there's an old RH installation guide for 6.1... |
| 16:10.30 | armijn | hmm, what's on sale? |
| 16:13.36 | SpyPigeon | [17:07] * SpyPigeon offers some paperclips, lots of scrap paper, and an old N64 memory card ;) |
| 16:13.36 | SpyPigeon | [ |
| 16:14.03 | armijn | in exchange for what? |
| 16:14.13 | SpyPigeon | armijn: A clean desk :) |
| 16:14.23 | armijn | hmm, sorry, don't have that for you |
| 16:14.46 | SpyPigeon | armijn: twas part of a joke, since I have the thankless task of clearing my desk, and its *covered* in junk |
| 16:14.55 | armijn | I know the feeling |
| 16:15.01 | armijn | but replace "desk" with "room" |
| 16:15.21 | SpyPigeon | ...and floor also, in my case |
| 16:15.59 | armijn | heh, I got a whole room covered with junk |
| 16:16.12 | armijn | but...I just can't throw out my sparcs can I? |
| 16:16.22 | dankolb | Give them to me |
| 16:16.38 | armijn | dankolb: no, I said I can't throw them out |
| 16:16.42 | nasrat | dankolb: you *need* more tech ? |
| 16:16.45 | dankolb | That's not throwing them out |
| 16:16.50 | dankolb | Yes, I need more tech |
| 16:16.53 | dankolb | MORE TECH! |
| 16:16.54 | nasrat | armijn: it's storage |
| 16:17.01 | armijn | dankolb: my ultra and ss20 are on permanent loan, I can't throw them out |
| 16:17.20 | dankolb | It's not throwing them out |
| 16:17.38 | JD | w00t |
| 16:17.42 | JD | ordered laptop |
| 16:17.46 | JD | be here tomorrow :) |
| 16:17.48 | JD | :) |
| 16:17.49 | JD | :) |
| 16:17.57 | JD | :) :) :) :) |
| 16:17.57 | armijn | dankolb: with every extra piece of hardware your chances of producing offspring will decrease |
| 16:18.40 | armijn | unless it's small, wearable and/or likes like an i-Mac |
| 16:18.45 | armijn | it is said that women dig i-Macs... |
| 16:18.50 | SpyPigeon | I though hardware enabled offsprintf ;) <gd&r> |
| 16:18.57 | armijn | at least, that's what someone at Microsoft told me.. |
| 16:19.00 | SpyPigeon | offprintf=>offspring |
| 16:19.18 | armijn | offsprintf...new C function? |
| 16:19.23 | armijn | brrrrr! |
| 16:19.38 | JD | SpyPigeon: I need your mobile number |
| 16:19.57 | SpyPigeon | my stupid fingers - they do that a lot; I go to write one thing, and their natural reflexes take over and start coding C |
| 16:20.34 | dankolb | :) |
| 16:20.42 | SpyPigeon | JD: Tonight's still happening then |
| 16:21.14 | JD | yeah |
| 16:21.49 | dankolb | Tonight is happening. Tomorrow has been cancelled due to lack of interest. |
| 16:21.58 | armijn | I need to kill my braincells with beer... |
| 16:22.09 | SpyPigeon | And the day after is under debate ;) |
| 16:22.12 | SPQR | what was happening tonight |
| 16:22.19 | JD | dankolb: dammit |
| 16:22.27 | JD | SPQR: bedslug |
| 16:22.55 | SPQR | ohh, cool. |
| 16:23.08 | armijn | bedslug? |
| 16:23.17 | dankolb | A LUG in bed |
| 16:23.18 | SpyPigeon | Bedfordshire LUG |
| 16:23.30 | armijn | where's Bedfordshire :) |
| 16:23.39 | JD | armijn: up north |
| 16:23.45 | SpyPigeon | Up the wooden hill |
| 16:24.10 | SPQR | Its not too far from me I think... |
| 16:24.19 | armijn | heh, too far away for me then |
| 16:24.32 | SpyPigeon | SPQR: where are you? |
| 16:24.47 | SPQR | Enfield. North london |
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| 16:26.00 | SPQR | I think its not far from bedfordshire.... (isn't from england) |
| 16:26.14 | SPQR | wb sash |
| 16:26.41 | sash | ty |
| 16:26.44 | armijn | heh, nearly pub time |
| 16:26.46 | SPQR | yw |
| 16:26.48 | armijn | first need fresh Euros |
| 16:27.08 | SPQR | euros, as in money of the club? |
| 16:27.19 | SPQR | of = or |
| 16:27.36 | SpyPigeon | 'Euros' - the young french girlies that always taste better fresh :)) |
| 16:27.44 | armijn | the money |
| 16:27.48 | SPQR | lol |
| 16:27.55 | armijn | what else should I use in the pub? |
| 16:28.08 | SPQR | pounds? |
| 16:28.11 | armijn | sure. |
| 16:28.15 | armijn | forget it :) |
| 16:28.19 | SPQR | lol |
| 16:28.35 | SpyPigeon | What else to use in the pub? |
| 16:28.39 | JD | SPQR: and weren't they nice :) |
| 16:28.42 | SPQR | you're not in england then? |
| 16:28.48 | SpyPigeon | Your hands, the beer glass, and your mouth. |
| 16:28.51 | SpyPigeon | In that order. |
| 16:28.57 | SpyPigeon | :)) |
| 16:28.59 | SPQR | hehe |
| 16:28.59 | armijn | SPQR: well done :) |
| 16:29.07 | JD | s/SPQR/SpyPigeon/ |
| 16:29.29 | armijn | I'm in "decent beer country" |
| 16:29.38 | SPQR | holland? |
| 16:29.39 | dankolb | Heineken country |
| 16:29.49 | armijn | not holland |
| 16:29.52 | armijn | the netherlands |
| 16:29.56 | armijn | there's a difference... |
| 16:29.58 | SPQR | ahhh oklies |
| 16:30.15 | armijn | holland is just the western part |
| 16:30.40 | SPQR | can ya speak/type dutch? (Kan afrikaans praat en a bikie hollands ) |
| 16:30.53 | armijn | spqr: of course, I'm a native |
| 16:31.03 | SPQR | doh :) Sorry |
| 16:31.05 | armijn | I love afrikaans, it sounds funny :) |
| 16:31.30 | SPQR | lol, called Kitchen Dutch by the natives of holland and such |
| 16:31.59 | armijn | add a little english and african languages, stir it for 300 years... |
| 16:32.15 | armijn | right, I'm off... |
| 16:32.16 | armijn | cu |
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| 16:32.22 | SPQR | I believe afrikaans is now, what dutch was about 200 years ago |
| 16:32.28 | SPQR | lol |
| 16:34.57 | SPQR | dankolb : you said that there was something happening tomorrow? Can I ask what it might be? |
| 16:35.08 | dankolb | I did? |
| 16:35.15 | SPQR | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.17 | dankolb | Well, apart from tomorrow being cancelled due to lack of interest |
| 16:35.29 | SPQR | right after the bit about tonight being cancelled.. |
| 16:35.31 | sash | Powergen setting up a facility next to his "museum." |
| 16:35.42 | SPQR | off, sorry. Got it mixed up with that |
| 16:35.46 | SPQR | *phh |
| 16:35.49 | SPQR | *ohh even |
| 16:36.02 | dankolb | It's also skugg's birthday |
| 16:36.28 | SPQR | sash : You can leach power off them for ya 'museum' ;) |
| 16:36.28 | nasrat | hmm pub methinks |
| 16:36.57 | sash | SPQR: I have nothing like dank's collection. |
| 16:37.16 | SPQR | I haven't seen either :( |
| 16:40.06 | nasrat | JD: where abouts? |
| 16:40.21 | JD | bedford |
| 16:40.30 | nasrat | well that doesn't really help |
| 16:41.29 | JD | night all |
| 16:41.44 | JD | SpyPigeon: see you outside bedford train stn at 8:00-8:30 |
| 16:43.30 | SPQR | where can I find all the rcvd mail for users? |
| 16:43.41 | dankolb | /var/spool/mail |
| 16:44.02 | SPQR | k, thx :) |
| 16:44.54 | SpyPigeon | JD: indeed, |
| 16:58.38 | dankolb | Hometime |
| 16:58.41 | dankolb | Bye all |
| 16:59.36 | sash | Bye |
| 17:03.43 | SpyPigeon | c(fc) ya |
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| 17:10.03 | SPQR | Yay!! Going home now!! Cya all later!! |
| 17:13.18 | SpyPigeon | Home time for me, too. Bye... |
| 17:14.23 | dankolb | Everyone's gone |
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| 18:03.19 | nasrat | evening |
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| 18:09.51 | Jenson | hey guys |
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| 18:10.30 | zachary | good evening |
| 18:10.37 | BorgBaby | hi |
| 18:10.44 | Jenson | heya zachary |
| 18:10.46 | Jenson | heya BorgBaby |
| 18:10.59 | BorgBaby | how are you Jenson? |
| 18:11.36 | Jenson | alright thanks, you? |
| 18:12.26 | BorgBaby | not bad, working on some perl code |
| 18:13.30 | zachary | ibot seen sash |
| 18:13.31 | | sash <voidzero@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1h 13m 55s ago, saying: 'Bye'. |
| 18:16.34 | dankolb | zachary: You've missed him |
| 18:16.48 | dankolb | Hi BorgBaby - LTNS |
| 18:16.49 | Jenson | evning dankolb |
| 18:18.58 | BorgBaby | hi dankolb |
| 18:19.42 | BorgBaby | I know - been a bit busy lately - trying to concentrate so staying off the net (mostly)! |
| 18:20.25 | dankolb | Ahh. Busy. I ought to do that |
| 18:21.08 | BorgBaby | nah - 'tis bad for you ;) |
| 18:21.46 | Jenson | i dont like work, i argued with the hoover, then it attacked me, so i cried and decided i hate work, rational as always |
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| 18:26.09 | Jenson | re |
| 18:27.32 | dankolb | wb BB |
| 18:27.51 | BorgBaby | cheers dan - dodgy ftp server hung something! |
| 18:27.55 | Jenson | dankolb: It would be nice if you didn't ignore me. |
| 18:28.05 | dankolb | Ahh. |
| 18:28.32 | nasrat | I want to be ignored too |
| 18:28.53 | BorgBaby | not with a face like that! <G> |
| 18:29.02 | Jenson | nasrat: heh well i aint ignoring ya |
| 18:29.25 | nasrat | I wish my bloody servers would |
| 18:29.49 | nasrat | but soon, SOON I will be free |
| 18:31.40 | BorgBaby | what are you doing, nasrat? |
| 18:32.59 | nasrat | In what sort of sense? |
| 18:33.09 | BorgBaby | with the servers |
| 18:33.44 | nasrat | ah well, they sms me |
| 18:34.06 | BorgBaby | ahh, sort of like 'on call' ;) |
| 18:34.15 | nasrat | s/on call/enslaved/ |
| 18:34.19 | Jenson | heh |
| 18:35.41 | nasrat | my servers serve quite a lot of load, and the application occasionally hits hard limits on resources |
| 18:39.09 | BorgBaby | just checking mail ;) |
| 18:39.51 | Jenson | nasrat: Part of it is me, seenas as a certian person seems to not be talking to me for some reason |
| 18:40.45 | nasrat | well it is archived |
| 18:41.01 | nasrat | can always use festival and tts it :) |
| 18:41.14 | BorgBaby | true - would have 2 be bored tho'! |
| 18:41.27 | nasrat | bah it's a oneline bash script |
| 18:41.58 | Jenson | BorgBaby: I dont think you've missed anything interesting |
| 18:42.14 | BorgBaby | nasrat: 1 line script? |
| 18:43.19 | nasrat | if you were bored you'd write a parser to do different voices :) |
| 18:44.05 | BorgBaby | or work on my bot personalities ;) |
| 18:45.30 | nasrat | I refer you to wget -r -O and festival --tts |
| 18:46.17 | BorgBaby | I've got festival but only with 2 standard voices |
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| 18:50.35 | nasrat | ibot: seen Leeds |
| 18:50.36 | | leeds <~richardc@user-1692.bbd06wfd.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 19h 5m 39s ago, saying: 'if anyone's awake... good night :-)'. |
| 19:03.38 | A4266 | evenin' |
| 19:03.41 | Jenson | heya Al |
| 19:03.43 | BorgBaby | get me one! |
| 19:03.48 | A4266 | Heya Becks :) |
| 19:05.21 | A4266 | Beth and Kate say hi Becks :) |
| 19:05.37 | A4266 | Beth also says thx for the txt msg |
| 19:06.01 | Jenson | :) |
| 19:06.22 | Jenson | I texted like half of gllug, and no-one texted me back |
| 19:06.27 | A4266 | lol |
| 19:06.46 | A4266 | You didn't txt me!!! I always reply to my txts :) |
| 19:06.54 | Jenson | I dont have your number hon |
| 19:07.48 | A4266 | hmm.. good point!! |
| 19:07.52 | A4266 | Want it? |
| 19:08.34 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.39 | Jenson | yeh ok |
| 19:09.18 | A4266 | I'll msg it to ya in a sec :) Gotta find it first. (can never remember it) |
| 19:09.25 | A4266 | Hey Bru |
| 19:10.43 | A4266 | arg, just had me a nap and feel grumpy now :/ |
| 19:16.04 | BorgBaby | laters folks |
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| 19:37.41 | Jenson | hi resuDaed |
| 19:37.43 | A4266 | hey Tom |
| 19:38.18 | resuDaed | hey |
| 19:38.29 | Jenson | how are you? |
| 19:38.56 | resuDaed | I am guessing (by who is here) that no-one here knows how I would get kdm to parse .xinitrc (nothing personal) |
| 19:39.07 | resuDaed | ah well, brb |
| 19:39.08 | A4266 | lol, |
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| 19:39.26 | A4266 | he's right there!! |
| 19:39.56 | Jenson | Damn BT |
| 19:40.23 | A4266 | ya, 2 hour cut off.... FUcked with my downlods when I had to use them... |
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| 19:40.41 | A4266 | wb Clyphox |
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| 19:40.53 | Jenson | wb Clyphox |
| 19:40.56 | Clyphox | ta |
| 19:40.57 | Jenson | wb resuDaed |
| 19:40.58 | Clyphox | ta again |
| 19:41.00 | A4266 | wb resuDaed |
| 19:41.02 | Clyphox | Hi resuDaed |
| 19:41.04 | resuDaed | ty |
| 19:41.06 | resuDaed | Hi Clyphox |
| 19:41.11 | A4266 | Tom, do ya think David might know how? |
| 19:41.13 | Jenson | A4266: they do 1hr30 at peak times but you never know when that might be |
| 19:41.24 | resuDaed | Clyphox : using kdm, can I get it to parse $HOME/.xinitrc? |
| 19:41.36 | Clyphox | resuDaed: I know how to do it with gdm |
| 19:41.39 | resuDaed | A4266 : lol |
| 19:41.39 | A4266 | Jenson : they sure do seem to enjoy doing it..... |
| 19:41.50 | Clyphox | resuDaed: have you tried hacking the kde session files? |
| 19:41.53 | resuDaed | ah well, I shall hack |
| 19:42.12 | Clyphox | resuDaed: gdm is much prettier |
| 19:42.28 | resuDaed | Clyphox : how difficult is it to run a box where half the hdd is NFS mounted? |
| 19:42.42 | Jenson | i use kdm |
| 19:42.48 | resuDaed | basically, I have 545MB, 200 I would like to give to swap |
| 19:42.56 | Clyphox | resuDaed: depends whats mounted and the speed there off.. |
| 19:43.07 | Clyphox | resuDaed: I could run quake very well off NFS.. |
| 19:43.49 | resuDaed | ideally, enough to boot the box from the hdd, but where can I mount that isn't used in the initial booting/mounting stages? |
| 19:44.01 | Jenson|Away | heya Beth |
| 19:44.03 | Jenson|Away | BRB |
| 19:44.09 | resuBitch | Hiya |
| 19:44.18 | resuDaed | hey resuBitch |
| 19:44.20 | resuDaed | :-P |
| 19:44.38 | resuBitch | Hey sweet, thought you were comin round after work? |
| 19:44.54 | resuDaed | I am fixing your computer |
| 19:45.31 | Clyphox | resuDaed: break it and die! |
| 19:45.33 | resuBitch | Cool :) |
| 19:45.36 | resuBitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.49 | resuBitch | Hey David, howz u ? |
| 19:45.51 | Clyphox | resuDaed: setup a rsync server while you're at it pls ;-) |
| 19:46.05 | Clyphox | resuBitch: busy busy busy.. and you :-) |
| 19:46.08 | resuDaed | Clyphox : what dirs are used in the initial boot stages, /boot, /sbin? ..? |
| 19:46.38 | Clyphox | resuDaed: just /etc afaik.. fstab/inittab that kinda stuff.. |
| 19:47.19 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.58 | resuBitch | Clyphox There's no hard drive in my pc!! |
| 19:48.08 | resuDaed | so if I do a base install, then move /usr (assuming that is the only dir that actually gets big) on to NFS |
| 19:48.35 | Clyphox | resuDaed: sounds sane too me.. |
| 19:48.45 | resuDaed | any ohter dirs that get big as installs grow? |
| 19:48.50 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.58 | resuDaed | yeah, apart from that |
| 19:49.21 | resuDaed | s /var used @ bootime? |
| 19:49.32 | resuDaed | s/s/is |
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| 19:50.33 | Clyphox | there is one sure fire way to know.. try is |
| 19:50.36 | Clyphox | er try is |
| 19:51.15 | Clyphox | resuDaed: if you put the nfs mount in /etc/fstab it *should* get done before the system starts |
| 19:51.34 | Clyphox | resuDaed: as long as you bump the network stuff up I suppose.. |
| 19:52.07 | murble | Clyphox: hmm no, normaly you only mount local stuff first |
| 19:52.42 | Clyphox | murble: Ahh I didn't know.. "it just worked" for me :-) |
| 19:53.44 | resuBitch | ps tell jenson was here and hi again |
| 19:54.43 | zachary | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.02 | A4266 | sounds like a plan :) |
| 19:55.10 | A4266 | somewhere with beer nearby!! |
| 19:55.46 | zachary | beer supply is a great concern of mine! :o) |
| 19:55.58 | A4266 | :*) |
| 19:56.31 | A4266 | I was think as well that Eping forest might be an idea? |
| 19:56.46 | Clyphox | A4266: ping |
| 19:56.57 | A4266 | Clyphox : huh? |
| 19:57.57 | Jenson | A4266: Tell Beth I hope she's ok and to take care :) |
| 19:58.29 | Jenson | zachary: Yeh picnic could be cool, beer i'm not so worried about |
| 19:58.43 | A4266 | Jenson : Beth says thx :) |
| 19:58.57 | Jenson | :) |
| 19:59.15 | A4266 | Jenson : also that she and you should go pubbing sometime :) |
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| 19:59.35 | Jenson | A4266: After the embarrassment of last time, God she's brave lol |
| 19:59.57 | nasrat | hi ppl |
| 20:00.26 | A4266 | Jenson : She says 'Needn't be embaresed' :) |
| 20:00.50 | A4266 | hi nasrat |
| 20:04.19 | nasrat | grr |
| 20:04.33 | Jenson | heya nasrat |
| 20:04.49 | A4266 | I already greeted you nasrat :) |
| 20:05.49 | nasrat | cheers |
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| 20:10.00 | Jenson | hey Davilion |
| 20:10.56 | nasrat | oh well supper ... see people later |
| 20:10.57 | Davilion | hi Jenson |
| 20:10.59 | Davilion | hows it going? |
| 20:11.18 | Jenson | Davilion: I probably shouldnt answer that, I might get bitched at for being OT |
| 20:11.42 | Davilion | bad day? |
| 20:12.15 | Jenson | nope, but certain people seem to have a problem with me right now |
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| 20:12.48 | Jenson | Anyway I have to go for a minute, I'll BBS |
| 20:21.05 | resuDaed | can someone give me an iptables command that will forward (masq) all internet packets from eth1 & 2 to eth0 |
| 20:24.15 | Clyphox | resuDaed: the BSD pf system rocks |
| 20:24.22 | Clyphox | why not install the linux port |
| 20:24.28 | Clyphox | Maybe it has ALTQ |
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| 20:27.04 | *** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [Next Meeting - tba], Check out irc FAQ at http://www.gllug.org.uk/irc.html |
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| 20:31.17 | murble | Clyphox: can you specify source and destination addresses with pf/ipf ? |
| 20:31.27 | murble | i mean interfaces not addresses |
| 20:31.56 | Clyphox | yeah |
| 20:32.05 | murble | how? |
| 20:32.06 | Clyphox | well with ipf at least |
| 20:33.00 | dankolb | block in on $ExtIF from $BadIP to $ProtectingIP proto tcp port=25 |
| 20:33.02 | dankolb | (or similar) |
| 20:33.30 | murble | dakolb: you seem to have failed to specify the out on interface. |
| 20:33.51 | Clyphox | murble: there are stacks of really good docs/faqs on the respective net/openbsd.org sites |
| 20:34.16 | Clyphox | map tun1 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0/32 |
| 20:34.41 | murble | Clyphox: i couldn't find an obviouse way of expressing this. |
| 20:35.02 | murble | also once you've got somthing wrong in the statetable is it aumotically accepted? |
| 20:35.38 | Clyphox | I really sm quite new too ipf myself (2 days) |
| 20:36.26 | murble | Clyphox: well it aint the beall and end all of packet fltering systems |
| 20:36.46 | Clyphox | is anything? |
| 20:36.52 | murble | there are some things that are very easy to say with iptables/netfilter that atall easy to express with ipf |
| 20:37.29 | murble | oh and using somthing with the power of ipfwadm after ipfw was very nice. |
| 20:37.54 | Clyphox | hehe I started on ipfwadm |
| 20:40.26 | murble | oh dear someone has decided to try and guess emailaddresses @xencat.demon.co.uk :( |
| 20:41.18 | dankolb | :) |
| 20:41.29 | Clyphox | yay |
| 20:41.37 | Clyphox | spam them back I saw |
| 20:41.39 | Clyphox | er say |
| 20:41.54 | dankolb | murble: I don't have the man page handy |
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| 20:48.10 | dankolb | Hi Dave |
| 20:48.33 | Clyphox | nn ppl |
| 20:49.46 | Davilion | hi |
| 20:50.37 | dankolb | nn Clyphox |
| 20:50.42 | dankolb | How're it going? |
| 20:50.55 | Davilion | im ill |
| 20:51.01 | Davilion | like sars, but not fatal. |
| 20:51.11 | Davilion | sneezing and spewing |
| 20:51.12 | Davilion | not much fun |
| 20:51.38 | A4266 | bbl later. Off to get some munchies |
| 20:51.52 | Davilion | you? |
| 20:52.38 | dankolb | :-/ |
| 20:52.46 | dankolb | It's okay |
| 20:52.59 | resuDaed | fscking proxy |
| 20:53.39 | dankolb | Your proxy is checking its filesystems? |
| 20:53.44 | resuDaed | I CBA to setup IP forwarding/masq/etc for a temporary fix, so I decided to use the proxy, but it's too damn slow |
| 20:53.52 | dankolb | You should always shut down cleanly |
| 20:54.23 | Davilion | bah! |
| 20:54.23 | resuDaed | dankolb : you should never shut dowm, fsck is for the odd occaision when something happens like a power cut |
| 20:54.32 | Davilion | just use reiser/jfs/ext3 |
| 20:54.35 | murble | davilion: how do you know it insn't sars? |
| 20:55.11 | Davilion | murble: well it could be sars, buyt im pretending it isnt so that i can go to work and infect people i dont like |
| 20:55.35 | murble | hehe :) |
| 20:56.12 | resuDaed | infact I am not sure what is happening, traffic on eth2 is averaging 20-30kB, but traffic on eth0 is minimal, a few hundred bytes/sec ... how is is this happening? do I have half of mirror.ac.uk mirrored on my proxy? |
| 20:57.49 | resuDaed | wheres a good source to learn iptables/chains ? |
| 20:58.04 | dankolb | Use pf |
| 20:58.04 | dankolb | :) |
| 20:58.06 | resuDaed | pf? |
| 20:58.12 | dankolb | OpenBSd |
| 20:58.24 | dankolb | 3.3 will be released next week |
| 20:58.26 | resuDaed | but I still need to learn the linux ways |
| 20:58.33 | dankolb | It's evil :) |
| 20:58.44 | resuDaed | even so, I must learn ... but from where? |
| 20:59.31 | dankolb | www.netfilter.org |
| 21:00.10 | resuDaed | oooh, ok |
| 21:00.29 | dankolb | www.tldp.org should have something there too |
| 21:00.38 | resuDaed | nothing of great value iirc |
| 21:00.57 | resuDaed | the linux net-admin guide had nothing of value |
| 21:00.59 | dankolb | Well, that's par for the course there ;-) |
| 21:01.40 | murble | resuDaed: the iptables website has a decent howto |
| 21:01.59 | resuDaed | dankolb : can you recommend a good place for general linux certs/training? |
| 21:02.05 | resuDaed | or murble |
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| 21:05.28 | murble | resuDaed: i don't go in for that sort of thing normally, but the people doing general linux stuff are lpi.org they have some sample stuff online |
| 21:13.24 | Jenson | Yeh go for it |
| 21:13.54 | Davilion | might as well |
| 21:18.07 | dankolb | Okay |
| 21:18.19 | dankolb | It's a fairly decent qualification, isn't it? |
| 21:20.42 | murble | depends if you consider having to know all the flags to rpm to build packages is useful, or if youcould instead just remeber man rpm |
| 21:21.10 | Davilion | im sure it does wonders for your cv in some companies though |
| 21:21.51 | dankolb | man pages work for me |
| 21:22.04 | dankolb | But I'd go with what Dave says. After all, it can't do any harm, can it? |
| 21:22.26 | Jenson | dankolb: Qualifications are always good |
| 21:22.36 | Jenson | (says her who CBA) |
| 21:23.45 | dankolb | Or would a Cisco cert be more useful? |
| 21:24.38 | Jenson | I thought you wanted to go back to uni to do computing? |
| 21:24.44 | zachary | dankolb: I think cisco would be a better asset on your cv. |
| 21:24.49 | dankolb | Yeah, next year |
| 21:25.28 | dankolb | zachary: I'll see what I can wrangle out of CAUS |
| 21:26.08 | Davilion | i think cisco would be better |
| 21:26.18 | Davilion | a decent cisco cert would be my preference |
| 21:26.38 | dankolb | Both is even better :) |
| 21:31.04 | A4266 | error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:31.21 | dankolb | A file is missing |
| 21:31.22 | dankolb | HTH |
| 21:31.33 | Jenson | wb A4266 |
| 21:31.35 | A4266 | oop |
| 21:31.39 | A4266 | oops even |
| 21:31.44 | A4266 | resuBitch here |
| 21:31.52 | A4266 | snealily usin al's pc |
| 21:31.55 | Jenson | heh |
| 21:31.58 | Jenson | hey Beth |
| 21:32.02 | A4266 | Hiya. :) |
| 21:32.17 | A4266 | error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:32.20 | A4266 | oops |
| 21:32.22 | Jenson | chnage your nick lol you're confusing :P |
| 21:32.31 | Jenson | and dont press botyh mouse buttons at once |
| 21:32.37 | resuBotch | lol |
| 21:32.39 | resuBotch | I know |
| 21:33.01 | Jenson | Dont worry, its a Windows habit of playing with the mouse, I do it too |
| 21:33.52 | resuBotch | Jenson:Not the first time I've done it and probably wont be my last time either. |
| 21:34.48 | Jenson | resuBotch: I could live by that quote to explain mistakes I make lol |
| 21:41.57 | Jenson | resuBitch: Where is Alex anyway, says he's eating, but that doesnt take almost an hour |
| 21:42.43 | resuBitch | Jenson: lol, he's started to watch a thing on tv, looked boring tom, but hey. |
| 21:43.17 | Jenson | lol |
| 21:43.57 | Jenson | grrrr i hate the PCWorld site....what other vendors are there other than PCWorld and Maplin? |
| 21:44.11 | dankolb | Dabs |
| 21:44.19 | resuBitch | This pc is wierd |
| 21:44.22 | resuBitch | need help |
| 21:44.35 | Jenson | whats weird Beth? |
| 21:44.56 | resuBitch | Ever time I try to /msg it says there's no such nick/channel |
| 21:45.16 | *** mode/#gllug [+b *!*@*.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary |
| 21:45.16 | *** kick/#gllug [Jenson!~zachary@host217-39-16-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary (zachary) |
| 21:46.05 | resuBitch | aahhh |
| 21:46.15 | resuBitch | resuDaed where are you when I need you? |
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| 21:47.46 | *** mode/#gllug [+b *!*@64.246.28.*] by zachary |
| 21:47.47 | *** kick/#gllug [Jenson!~zachary@host217-39-16-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary (zachary) |
| 21:49.55 | resuBitch | anyone to the rescue? |
| 21:51.16 | resuBitch | error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:51.50 | *** mode/#gllug [-b *!*@64.246.28.*] by zachary |
| 21:52.09 | *** join/#gllug jenson___ (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 21:52.13 | dankolb | Thanks zach... |
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| 21:52.34 | dankolb | Hey skugg |
| 21:53.02 | jenson___ | hey skugg |
| 21:55.23 | skugg | hi dan and jenson :) |
| 21:55.43 | dankolb | Are you going to be online tomorrow? |
| 21:56.05 | skugg | me? |
| 21:56.08 | dankolb | yeh |
| 21:56.12 | skugg | what time? |
| 21:56.13 | *** mode/#gllug [+b jenson*!*@*] by zachary |
| 21:56.17 | dankolb | Any time |
| 21:56.22 | *** kick/#gllug [jenson___!~zachary@host217-39-16-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary (zachary) |
| 21:56.27 | skugg | i can be, probably... |
| 21:56.40 | dankolb | Well, if you're not, Happy Birthday |
| 21:56.44 | skugg | i didn't have any plans for it though... |
| 21:56.45 | dankolb | (IIRC?) |
| 21:56.48 | skugg | ah, thank you :) |
| 21:56.54 | skugg | yeah, that's righ |
| 21:56.56 | skugg | +t |
| 21:56.59 | dankolb | PUB! |
| 21:57.51 | skugg | heh. i'm going out for dinner with girlfriend and some close friends -- don't really have time to be hungover on friday ;) |
| 21:58.09 | skugg | my supervisor wants a draft on friday, and it's still not quite ready. |
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| 21:58.12 | dankolb | Well, pub at some point? |
| 21:59.14 | dankolb | If not, then there's the Gllug meet |
| 21:59.45 | skugg | when is the gllug meet? |
| 21:59.53 | dankolb | tba :) |
| 22:00.04 | skugg | i'd like to go to a pub though -- i've not been for _ages_ |
| 22:01.49 | dankolb | It's tba :) |
| 22:02.11 | dankolb | And if it's not tba, it'll be a week later |
| 22:02.40 | Dynamite | heh guess I'll just have to wait and see then |
| 22:03.47 | Dynamite | Yeh well, I'll probably forget anywya if you tell me |
| 22:04.44 | skugg | dankolb, are you among the organisers? |
| 22:05.12 | dankolb | I didn't think so |
| 22:06.02 | murble | is''t gllugadmin -> way? |
| 22:06.04 | *** mode/#gllug [-b *!*@*.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary |
| 22:06.18 | dankolb | No. I thought it was <-- way |
| 22:06.45 | Dynamite | Wouldnt want to have banned yourself eh zachary |
| 22:07.50 | *** kick/#gllug [Dynamite!~zachary@host217-39-16-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary (zachary) |
| 22:08.18 | *** join/#gllug Dynamite (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 22:08.27 | *** kick/#gllug [Dynamite!~zachary@host217-39-16-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary (zachary) |
| 22:08.30 | skugg | what's with the kicking zachary? |
| 22:08.32 | murble | zachary? |
| 22:08.32 | *** join/#gllug Dynamite (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 22:08.40 | *** kick/#gllug [Dynamite!~zachary@host217-39-16-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com] by zachary (zachary) |
| 22:08.42 | *** join/#gllug Dynamite (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 22:10.16 | Dynamite | murble: nothing |
| 22:11.27 | murble | Dynamite: ok, so why is zachary trying to keep you out? |
| 22:12.01 | Dynamite | murble: I'm meant to be lying low for 24hrs |
| 22:12.40 | skugg | Dynamite, why? |
| 22:13.05 | zachary | Jenson/Dynamite has been talked about overuse of ot conversation in this channel. This is not the star-search for soap opera channel. |
| 22:14.01 | murble | who decided this and did the talk? |
| 22:14.05 | murble | ing? |
| 22:14.07 | murble | to |
| 22:14.34 | murble | if you don't like the ot stuff you can ignore the participants. |
| 22:14.36 | zachary | highbury has talked with her before. |
| 22:14.58 | murble | why did you think that banning someone would actually help? |
| 22:15.31 | Dynamite | murble: I'd stay out of it if I were you, dont get dragged in |
| 22:16.27 | zachary | murble: It is not for open discussion, I have thought about my decission carefully and have consulted others. |
| 22:19.04 | Dynamite | zachary: Consulted others, am I really that much disliked round here? |
| 22:20.11 | murble | oh the wise have spoken then. |
| 22:20.25 | *** part/#gllug murble (~murble@klepto.pho.be) |
| 22:20.45 | Dynamite | Why does he insist on dragging himself into everything? |
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| 22:25.52 | Freedevil | hello |
| 22:26.00 | dankolb | Hi |
| 22:26.06 | Freedevil | sup? |
| 22:26.15 | Dynamite | heya Freedevil |
| 22:26.25 | dankolb | Nowt much |
| 22:26.27 | Freedevil | hi |
| 22:26.44 | Freedevil | does mount -a moutn everything from /etc/fstab? |
| 22:27.36 | *** mode/#gllug [-b jenson*!*@*] by zachary |
| 22:28.17 | dankolb | yeah |
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| 22:33.46 | Jenson | dankolb: You got URLs for any decent hardware vendors then? |
| 22:35.10 | dankolb | www.dabs.com |
| 22:35.28 | Jenson | ty |
| 22:45.55 | dankolb | TV cards are a bit pointless if you have a TV |
| 22:46.30 | Jenson | Yeh, but I dont have TV in here, and I wanna be able to integrate TV with the desktop or watch it in a window, its fun |
| 22:47.28 | dankolb | But there's never anything on Tv |
| 22:47.56 | A4266 | even with satilte telly |
| 22:48.02 | Jenson | true |
| 22:48.34 | Jenson | I want a new CDRW aswell, but as my kernel doesnt seem to have the modules i need for the one I've got, that seems pointless |
| 22:49.43 | dankolb | It should do |
| 22:49.49 | dankolb | modprobe ide-scsi |
| 22:50.01 | Jenson | yeh |
| 22:50.03 | Jenson | got that one |
| 22:50.07 | Jenson | its the other two it cant find |
| 22:50.19 | dankolb | what other two? |
| 22:50.26 | Jenson | erm hang on |
| 22:50.27 | zachary | enabling the kernel append= ide-scsi=hdx is the one that alwas bite me in the rear. |
| 22:50.54 | dankolb | so I had /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 |
| 22:51.01 | Jenson | zachary: I screwed my lilo with that one....now it autoboots DOS without asking and I have to boot Linux from the CD |
| 22:51.16 | dankolb | Fix lilo.conf |
| 22:51.40 | Jenson | dankolb: sr_mod and sg |
| 22:51.47 | Jenson | Set to load but the modprobe cant find them |
| 22:51.47 | zachary | Jenson: dcc me your lilo.conf |
| 22:52.07 | dankolb | modprobe sg |
| 22:52.14 | Jenson | zachary: Nah, at the moment its completely dead, when I've attempted to sort it I will |
| 22:52.20 | Jenson | dankolb: Yeh done that |
| 22:53.30 | dankolb | And it didn't work? |
| 22:53.42 | Jenson | oooh, the lilo ive got now is different to the one i had earlier |
| 22:53.45 | Jenson | nope it didnt |
| 22:53.59 | dankolb | Oh |
| 22:54.37 | Jenson | Much to your dislike of zimm, he has taught me about Linux |
| 22:54.49 | Jenson | And demonstrated apt-get as much as possible |
| 22:55.45 | dankolb | Other people have also tried |
| 22:56.05 | Jenson | my lilo is weird |
| 22:56.43 | Jenson | I can't dcc it either coz it wont let me |
| 23:00.56 | Jenson | Well, time for bed |
| 23:00.59 | Jenson | Goodnight guys |
| 23:01.05 | Jenson | and sorry if I annoyed you zachary |
| 23:01.06 | skugg | night |
| 23:01.10 | Jenson | night skugg |
| 23:01.12 | zachary | good night, |
| 23:01.15 | A4266 | night night :) |
| 23:01.21 | Jenson | night zachary |
| 23:01.25 | Jenson | night A4266 |
| 23:01.28 | Jenson | night dankolb |
| 23:01.29 | zachary | night Jenson |
| 23:01.31 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (1000@host213-122-91-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 23:02.26 | zachary | I'm off as well, Good night |
| 23:08.04 | A4266 | Tis time for me to call it a night as well |
| 23:08.09 | A4266 | g'night all |
| 23:10.05 | dankolb | 'night all |
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