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| 02:38.49 | antro | http://www.revolution-os.com/store1.html is the DVD set available in the UK? |
| 02:39.56 | highbury | you can get it shipped to you. but it is in NTSC format |
| 02:40.02 | antro | has anyone, especially those in the UK, noticed this arrogance and disregard for customers who do not use windoze? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/gecko.html any other companies following this contemptous action? |
| 02:40.45 | antro | That is why I asked about a UK release, a PAL version that is |
| 02:42.32 | highbury | I think SpudUAway was speaking to them about the DVD release, you'd have to ask him |
| 02:43.09 | highbury | non-IE unfriendly sites, has often been discussed on mailing list |
| 02:43.57 | highbury | anyways, its a bit late for me, g'nite folks |
| 02:44.59 | antro | nite nite |
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| 07:56.15 | zachary | good morning |
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| 10:38.58 | Jenson | Morning |
| 10:39.13 | Jenson | I have a question about partitioning, anyone feeling helpful? |
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| 11:22.55 | highbury | yo jenson! |
| 11:23.13 | highbury | what's your partitioning question? |
| 12:15.05 | Clyphox | re |
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| 12:15.47 | Jenson | afternoon |
| 12:16.00 | Clyphox | Hi Jenson |
| 12:16.08 | Clyphox | Just joined myself :-) |
| 12:16.38 | Jenson | lol ve had a fun morning, i've corrupted my win install, and just almost corrupted slack |
| 12:17.50 | Jenson | Clyphox: Do you know which filesytem I need to use on cfdisk to make a partition that can be read and written to from both Win and Linux? |
| 12:17.59 | Clyphox | b |
| 12:18.06 | Clyphox | well Fat32 is b |
| 12:18.24 | Clyphox | Windoze can read linux ext2/3 with the right program though.. |
| 12:18.41 | Jenson | Well Win doesnt boot now anyway |
| 12:18.48 | Clyphox | But you can also quite easily install Slack on a windoze b fs :-) |
| 12:19.38 | Clyphox | ZipSlack 9.0 is only about 90Mg iirc |
| 12:20.33 | Jenson | BRB |
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| 12:21.58 | zachary | afternoon |
| 12:22.01 | Clyphox | Heya |
| 12:23.47 | Clyphox | Has anyone heard of any kind of Clustering with BSD? Like Mosix? |
| 12:25.16 | Jenson | We've got someone stuck down the road with a dead clutch, a horsebox and horse, trying to get to Barnsley |
| 12:25.32 | Jenson | Suddenly my dead windows install doesnt seem important |
| 12:25.47 | Clyphox | hehe.. |
| 12:26.17 | Jenson | We have a horse too, but our towing vehicle isnt here, coz we cxould take them back to the little village theyve just left from |
| 12:26.24 | Jenson | anyway i'm wandering off again |
| 12:26.29 | Clyphox | tata |
| 12:28.13 | Jenson | i should be reinstalling win, but i cant be bothered |
| 12:29.24 | Jenson | Clyphox: I did have a FAT32 partition, Win was reading it, but Linux wouldn't mount it properly |
| 12:30.39 | zachary | Jenson: I never heard of a FAT32 partition not mounting right, something must be wrong with your /etc/fstab or your FAT32 parition is fried. |
| 12:30.55 | Jenson | zachary: I expect I juse set it up wrong |
| 12:30.56 | Clyphox | Was it a custom kernel? |
| 12:30.58 | Jenson | no |
| 12:31.06 | Clyphox | try "modprobe vfat" |
| 12:31.08 | Jenson | I'm just being a newbie idiot i expect |
| 12:31.36 | Jenson | Clyphox: I've got it as an ext2 partition now, and it hasnt auto mounted that right either |
| 12:31.40 | Clyphox | I've never used FAT32 with slack since 4.x |
| 12:31.55 | Clyphox | You mean mount it at startup? |
| 12:31.58 | Jenson | yeh |
| 12:32.04 | Clyphox | ok.. is it mounted now? |
| 12:32.19 | Jenson | it should be, but it isnt |
| 12:32.35 | Clyphox | mount it quickly.. |
| 12:32.38 | Jenson | says only root can mount it, but it should automount |
| 12:32.54 | Clyphox | thats easy to fix.. |
| 12:33.02 | Jenson | i know |
| 12:33.13 | Clyphox | go as root and mount it.. |
| 12:33.43 | Jenson | grr, i'll have to log out of X then, unless you know your command line mount commands |
| 12:33.51 | Clyphox | yeah.. |
| 12:33.58 | Clyphox | open a console.. |
| 12:33.59 | zachary | brb, need to fix lunch. |
| 12:34.07 | Clyphox | cya |
| 12:34.10 | Jenson | yeh ive done that bit |
| 12:34.13 | Jenson | cya zachary |
| 12:34.29 | Clyphox | Jenson: log in a root: suy |
| 12:34.30 | Clyphox | er su |
| 12:34.37 | Jenson | its a root console :) |
| 12:34.43 | Clyphox | ohh |
| 12:34.46 | Clyphox | ok.. |
| 12:35.16 | Clyphox | well it should just be : mount /dev/hda? /mnt/doze -t vfat |
| 12:35.32 | Clyphox | obviously you choose which partition and where to mount it.. |
| 12:36.07 | Jenson | yay i did it |
| 12:36.23 | Clyphox | what partition is it btw? |
| 12:36.29 | Jenson | hda4 |
| 12:36.37 | Clyphox | cool.. |
| 12:36.56 | Jenson | and its an ext2 partition, i'm gonna back up win onto it |
| 12:37.14 | Clyphox | if you put the line with "hda4" form your /etc/mtab into your /etc/fstab it will mount every time.. |
| 12:37.38 | Clyphox | IE: grep hda4 /etc/mtab >> /etc/fstab |
| 12:37.44 | Jenson | k then |
| 12:38.13 | Clyphox | Check the fstab afterwards just incase there might be an old/wrong entry from before maybe..? |
| 12:38.20 | Jenson | Am I allowed to feel clever that I'm learning |
| 12:38.29 | Jenson | fstab is probably a mess coz i was editting it |
| 12:38.35 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 12:38.45 | Clyphox | well your mtab does work so compare them.. |
| 12:39.27 | Clyphox | the mtab is a current Mount Tab of what is happening at the moment.. so its not currupt or anything cause it is generated by mount itself |
| 12:40.07 | Jenson | gtttt, well it would help if i didnt have fstab trying to mount it as vfat |
| 12:40.08 | Jenson | silly me |
| 12:40.14 | Jenson | forgot to delete that |
| 12:40.29 | Clyphox | hehe #'s are usefull :-) |
| 12:42.14 | Jenson | fsck, i'm a twonkle, if I back up win files on ext2, I won't be able to copy them back to the win partition |
| 12:42.15 | Jenson | shit |
| 12:42.19 | Jenson | excuse me a minute |
| 12:42.27 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 12:42.40 | Clyphox | Its not that hard to copy them back from Linux.. |
| 12:42.53 | Clyphox | you can backup an entire Partition to a file even.. |
| 12:43.40 | Jenson | I'm alright, I know what I'm trying to do, and I'll get there eventually |
| 12:43.50 | Clyphox | Good luck.. |
| 12:44.05 | Clyphox | I have to go now.. at Nikki's Parents place.. |
| 12:44.22 | Jenson | Seeya later mate |
| 12:44.38 | Clyphox | Shalom all.. |
| 12:44.38 | Jenson | I'll BBL too |
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| 12:56.09 | Jenson | Is it possible to format a vfat partition from Linux |
| 12:58.44 | Jenson | Well I'm out of here, I'll be back at some point, depending on how much of a mess I make of this. |
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| 13:47.10 | Jenson | erm guys, what do you do when you lose lilo and all it does is boot win98? |
| 13:48.51 | Jenson | i think i better just ignore it for a while, and sort this damn win98 out |
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| 14:29.38 | Jenson | Is anyone alive, or am I by myself? |
| 14:32.50 | SpudULike | Yes, and no. |
| 14:33.29 | SpudULike | In that order. |
| 14:33.43 | Jenson | lol |
| 14:33.51 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 14:34.26 | Jenson | What do you do when you accidently overwrite lilo Windows autoboots and I have to use the CD to boot slack? |
| 14:34.28 | SpudULike | Have you got your Windows partition back? |
| 14:35.09 | SpudULike | Hmm. |
| 14:35.59 | SpudULike | Before we start, you have your Windows boot disk to hand? |
| 14:36.02 | Jenson | I formatted my Win patition (coz I corrupted Win) then I almsot corrupted Slack, then I formatted the Win partition and reinstalled (which is a bit messed now) and its ignoring lilo |
| 14:36.05 | Jenson | yeh i do |
| 14:36.13 | SpudULike | And this one works? |
| 14:36.16 | SpudULike | :-))) |
| 14:36.41 | Jenson | I should never have tried to fix the sound in Win for my parents, it was fine before that |
| 14:38.09 | SpudULike | I THINK you just need to run /sbin/lilo once you have Linux up an running. |
| 14:38.21 | Jenson | I shall try |
| 14:38.31 | SpudULike | Hold on. |
| 14:38.36 | Jenson | k then |
| 14:38.49 | SpudULike | Have you read the lilo man page? |
| 14:38.55 | Jenson | not lately |
| 14:39.54 | SpudULike | What do you get if you run 'cat /etc/lilo.conf' ??? |
| 14:40.27 | Jenson | I get the copy of lilo I want, I think it just needs writing to the MBR |
| 14:40.31 | SpudULike | It's been some time since I last played with lilo, I haven't had a dual boot machine for such a long time. |
| 14:40.51 | SpudULike | Does it show both the Linux and Windows partitions? |
| 14:40.56 | Jenson | Yeh |
| 14:41.07 | Jenson | There is nothing wrong with lilo, it just doesnt load anympore |
| 14:41.36 | SpudULike | Well, if that's the case and I were you, I'd run /sbin/lilo. |
| 14:42.08 | Jenson | I think I'll go reboot, see if it works |
| 14:42.13 | SpudULike | But I often get these things wrong! |
| 14:42.23 | SpudULike | Not that I want to put you off ;-) |
| 14:42.28 | Jenson | lol i was the one who got it like this in the first place |
| 14:42.38 | Jenson | BBS |
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| 14:51.10 | jason_ukfsn | afternoon everyone |
| 14:51.18 | Jenson | All I've got left to do now is configure SANE, then I don't actually need Windows |
| 14:51.28 | Jenson | Oh yeh, and learn how to rip/burn CDs in linux |
| 14:51.36 | Jenson | and afternoon jason_ukfsn |
| 14:51.43 | SpudULike | Jenson: You saying it worked? |
| 14:52.05 | Jenson | yeh SpudULike |
| 14:52.11 | jason_ukfsn | mkisofs / vcdimage to create the cd image and cdrecord / cdrdao for burning them |
| 14:52.15 | SpudULike | You mean I got something right? |
| 14:52.39 | Jenson | SpudULike: Well, only a newbie like me could make such a mess of it in the first place |
| 14:53.20 | Jenson | jason_ukfsn: I dont actually think my CDRW is configured |
| 14:55.36 | jason_ukfsn | is it a SCSI one or an IDE one? |
| 14:55.52 | Jenson | SpudULike: Feel like being helpful again? Do I get the following msg because i havent yet formatted the partition |
| 14:55.54 | Jenson | bash-2.05a# mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/fstore -t vfat |
| 14:55.54 | Jenson | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4, |
| 14:55.54 | Jenson | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.54 | Jenson | bash-2.05a# |
| 14:55.57 | Jenson | jason_ukfsn: IDE |
| 14:57.04 | eye69 | Jenson: Yes |
| 14:57.12 | eye69 | Jenson: It can't mount a filesystem which doesn't exist. |
| 14:57.13 | SpudULike | Jenson: Twice in one day, unlikely! |
| 14:57.16 | jason_ukfsn | Jenson, you need to have SCSI emulation for your IDE CDRW to allow you to write CDs. Most modern distros support this out of the box. |
| 14:58.15 | Jenson | eye69: Yay, I got something right |
| 14:58.32 | Jenson | jason_ukfsn: I'm running Slack 8.1 |
| 14:58.38 | eye69 | Try 'modprobe ide-scsi' |
| 14:59.15 | Jenson | ok |
| 14:59.44 | Jenson | why do half the modprobes not come up with anything? |
| 15:04.08 | eye69 | Check with 'lsmod' to check if it was loaded. |
| 15:04.43 | eye69 | They don't have anything sensible to say, so they shut up |
| 15:04.59 | Jenson | oh yeh it was |
| 15:05.39 | Jenson | Unlike Windows, which loves to throw stupid errors at me |
| 15:05.44 | eye69 | Heh. :) |
| 15:08.29 | Jenson | Anyway, how is everyone? |
| 15:08.42 | eye69 | Bored, tired. |
| 15:08.57 | Jenson | awww *hugs* |
| 15:09.34 | eye69 | Been downloading Eight Legged Freaks for several days now. |
| 15:09.43 | jason_ukfsn | Jenson, once you have the ide-scsi module loaded cat /proc/scsi/scsi to discover "where" in the systems SCSI subsystem your CDRW drive is living. This will be expressed lie this Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00 |
| 15:10.03 | Jenson | k then |
| 15:10.36 | Jenson | it says Attached devices: none |
| 15:10.38 | jason_ukfsn | When you are using cdrecord to actually burn an image to CD you will need to tell it which device to use. The device ID is a combination of the Channel, ID and LUN. In the above case it would be 0,3,0 |
| 15:10.58 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: is "cdrecord --scanbus" the same? |
| 15:11.09 | Jenson | jason_ukfsn: I have those instructions somehwehre :) |
| 15:11.14 | Jenson | somewhere even |
| 15:11.20 | jason_ukfsn | It should be yes zachery. It will basically read the same info. |
| 15:12.21 | jason_ukfsn | cdrecord --scanbus is a better option actually as it will tell you the right ID and is easier to understand. |
| 15:12.39 | jason_ukfsn | I'm just remembering how I had to do this years ago. |
| 15:13.22 | zachary | The "Geekier Method!" :) |
| 15:14.08 | Jenson | zachary: The geekier method would be to drag my boyfirned round here and get him to set it up. |
| 15:14.27 | Jenson | But then again, I only got in a complete mess with lilo and Win because of him |
| 15:16.20 | jason_ukfsn | Jenson - that may have been a hint. Generally boyfriends don't visit their girlfriends to play with her PC ;) |
| 15:17.17 | Jenson | jason_ukfsn: the reason lilo was messed up was coz i distracted him lol (into a conversation about his ex) |
| 15:19.26 | Jenson | But at least I don't have Debian on here now |
| 15:20.41 | jason_ukfsn | Jenson, that isn't really something to boast about ;) |
| 15:21.52 | Jenson | It would be if the Slack gang were actually here |
| 15:22.10 | jason_ukfsn | Ah but they are not. |
| 15:23.17 | Jenson | i know |
| 15:24.40 | Jenson | You a Debian user jason_ukfsn? |
| 15:31.28 | jason_ukfsn | Yes although I also use RedHat and I provide consultancy and support for users of Slackware, SuSE and Mandrake as well. |
| 15:32.04 | jason_ukfsn | Whichever distro you use the fact remains that your system is basically Linux/GNU/other. All that really changes are the configuration tools and the locations of a few files. |
| 15:33.07 | Jenson | I used to think I'd be good for Win consultancy, but after the stupid mistake I made this morning I've changed my mind |
| 15:34.26 | jason_ukfsn | consultants also make stupid errors. Not too long ago I accidentally executed "rm -rf *" in my home directory on a box. I caught it fairly quickly but on an ext3 filesystem there is no way to recover the files. :( |
| 15:35.17 | Jenson | Well, I ctrl-alt-del whilst in regedit, and killed the registry |
| 15:36.08 | jason_ukfsn | That is a little more serious. One of the reasons I object to those who would create a registry type system in Linux is the fagile nature of such structures. |
| 15:36.39 | jason_ukfsn | At least with a simple set of files there is clear separation between service configurations etc. |
| 15:36.59 | Jenson | Well, I had no idea what I was doing with regedit, I should have just formatted anyway, but nevermind |
| 15:37.21 | Jenson | I dont even want Windows, but my parents love it |
| 15:37.35 | Jenson | My mother will use linux, but my dad point blank refuses |
| 15:37.57 | jason_ukfsn | Hmm, well if you want to become a consultant I suggest that you might want to learn a bit more about things behind the scenes. Poeple kind of expect it. |
| 15:38.28 | jason_ukfsn | Then don't make an issue of it - simply provide a computer that does what he wants. After he decides it is better introduce the "politics" of free software. |
| 15:38.55 | Jenson | The problem is, Windows is fucked, coz I have driver issues |
| 15:39.16 | Jenson | hence the whole regedit thing |
| 15:42.17 | jason_ukfsn | Jenson that is a result of the whole design underlying Windows which is for a single-user system where new software was really expected to rigidly comply with a set of assumptions about dll and configuration locations. |
| 15:42.40 | Jenson | Along with badly written drivers |
| 15:42.48 | jason_ukfsn | Alas MS didn't really communicate those assumptions to anyone so every application is almost guaranteed to bugger the others. |
| 15:43.30 | jason_ukfsn | badly written drivers are the result of closed source systems and hardware manufacturers developing on the cheap. |
| 15:44.06 | Jenson | I ought to go and install all the drivers in Win actually |
| 15:44.10 | Jenson | I'll see you guys later |
| 15:49.24 | Clyphox | greets |
| 15:49.36 | jason_ukfsn | Hi Clyphox |
| 15:49.41 | Clyphox | Heya |
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| 16:02.43 | skugg | hey. |
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| 16:05.53 | jason_ukfsn | hmm,I am being pulled away to spend some family time (and I'm in the middle of setting up yet another ISP). I'll see you all later. |
| 16:06.09 | Leeds | *another* ISP? :-) |
| 16:10.15 | skugg | hm. |
| 16:14.27 | Clyphox | Anyone compiled apache/mod_php/mod_ssl all at once? |
| 16:15.12 | Clyphox | I'm just too lazy to re-hack my old old old script.. |
| 16:17.10 | eye69 | *cough*apt-get install apache php4 libapache-mod-ssl*cough* |
| 16:18.05 | Clyphox | does that work on netbsd as well? |
| 16:33.08 | skugg | Clyphox, if netbsd maintainers see the light, sure ;) |
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| 16:37.36 | marko85_uk | sup everyone |
| 16:40.59 | dummy | nm u? |
| 16:41.16 | marko85_uk | i am trying to work out |
| 16:41.30 | marko85_uk | what the default mail client for red hat 8.0 is and how to run it |
| 16:41.35 | marko85_uk | it is not in the menu |
| 16:42.58 | dummy | i dont know anything about redhat |
| 16:43.41 | Clyphox | I want a global SOURCE ports tree.. :(( |
| 16:44.06 | Clyphox | marko85_uk: are you running kde or gnome? |
| 16:44.10 | marko85_uk | gnome |
| 16:44.26 | Clyphox | I would recomment sylpheed for quality/speed |
| 16:44.42 | Clyphox | But Evolution is nice to impress those coporate types |
| 16:44.42 | marko85_uk | isnt there one installed with the system straight away? |
| 16:44.57 | Clyphox | never used RH since itsa dark days.. |
| 16:45.36 | dummy | sylpheed is really good |
| 16:45.51 | dummy | a lil plain but does its job |
| 16:46.25 | dummy | marko85_uk: you prolly have evolution |
| 16:46.47 | eye69 | For somebody used to Outlook Evolution would be suitable. |
| 16:48.28 | Clyphox | dummy: glad to know someone else has discovered sylpheed :-) |
| 16:48.57 | dummy | :) |
| 16:49.05 | dummy | my whole campus uses it |
| 16:49.44 | stephen | heh, we're stuck with netscape 4 on windows |
| 16:50.06 | eye69 | I used Evolution at work...nice with the Palm syncing |
| 16:50.34 | Clyphox | stephen: better then OE |
| 16:50.49 | Clyphox | I like the whole webmail thing myself |
| 16:51.01 | Clyphox | Never setup rules tho.. |
| 16:51.09 | stephen | Clyphox: yer, but linux diskless clients running mutt would have been so much better ;) |
| 16:51.41 | stephen | Clyphox: we've got webmail too, but it's an old crappy piece of software |
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| 17:41.13 | jenson | Anyone here? |
| 17:42.48 | zachary | jenson: no |
| 17:43.04 | zachary | bbl, need to do tax return |
| 17:43.53 | jenson | oh good, coz i have no idera what ive done to my slack system |
| 17:47.43 | highbury | what's the prob? |
| 17:48.28 | jenson | it says "Warning: unab;e to open an initital console." |
| 17:49.05 | highbury | when? |
| 17:49.22 | jenson | as soon as it boots, when its meant to come up with the login |
| 17:49.47 | highbury | so you don't get to a login prompt? |
| 17:49.52 | jenson | (so as my mother wont let me use her laptop, and windows is screwed to, i just had to drag another system down here to get online) |
| 17:50.07 | jenson | no, it says that just before i should get the prompt |
| 17:50.21 | highbury | and the prompt never comes up? |
| 17:50.26 | jenson | nope |
| 17:50.46 | highbury | have you tried switching to alternate console <alt><F2> |
| 17:51.05 | jenson | nope, mainly coz i have no idea how to use console really |
| 17:51.07 | jenson | i'll try that |
| 17:51.20 | jenson | it doesnt do antything |
| 17:52.10 | highbury | try <ALT><F1> trhu to <ALT><F12> hit return in each console, and see whether any say anything interesting |
| 17:52.46 | jenson | no id doesnt say anything |
| 17:53.17 | highbury | ok reboot to single user mode |
| 17:53.29 | jenson | k then |
| 17:53.31 | jenson | hang on a min |
| 17:54.11 | jenson | i keep getting confused, got 1 keybozard on my lap and one on the desk |
| 17:54.16 | highbury | you do know how to do that? |
| 17:54.22 | jenson | yeh |
| 17:54.29 | jenson | well, ive done it anyway |
| 17:54.29 | highbury | good |
| 17:55.03 | jenson | im not sure if i did it right but nevermind |
| 17:56.23 | highbury | so what's the situ then? |
| 17:57.06 | jenson | well i have no idea what im doing, all i know is that i just booted off the CD to get a command pronmt |
| 17:57.11 | jenson | and i cant type like this |
| 17:57.48 | highbury | why did you boot off CD? Can the system boot by itself? |
| 17:58.20 | jenson | yeh it can, but usually if it needs single user mode it boots into automatically doesnt it |
| 17:59.41 | highbury | err, not sure what you mean there. You should boot the machine with the CD removed into single user mode |
| 17:59.54 | highbury | are you using lilo or grub as boot manager |
| 17:59.59 | jenson | lilo |
| 18:01.19 | highbury | so get to the "boot: " prompt, hit tab, see what kernels are displayed. Lets assume the first one is called "vmlinuz", then type "vmlinuz single" |
| 18:01.33 | jenson | ah i get it |
| 18:02.57 | jenson | according to it, both vmlinuz and vmlinuz single dont exist |
| 18:03.30 | highbury | so when you hit tab what does it say? |
| 18:04.07 | jenson | nothing |
| 18:04.50 | highbury | ok just type "single" and see what that does |
| 18:05.27 | highbury | actually that's a bit weird, lilo should have said something :-( |
| 18:05.33 | jenson | it says 'no such image: tab shows a list' and when i press tab it just comes up with the last thing i wrote |
| 18:06.23 | highbury | sounds, like the lilo.conf is slightly buggered. |
| 18:06.34 | jenson | shouldnt be |
| 18:06.41 | jenson | was fine last time i loaded it |
| 18:06.50 | highbury | ok last try, type "-s" without quotes and hit return |
| 18:07.10 | jenson | it says no such image |
| 18:07.27 | highbury | if and when your machine boots up, we should talke a look at /etc/lilo.conf as it is misbehaving |
| 18:07.47 | highbury | "linux single" ? |
| 18:08.09 | jenson | see if I type either Win98 or Slackware at the boot: prompt then the repective 1 will boot |
| 18:08.26 | highbury | "Slackware single" |
| 18:09.34 | jenson | well Slackware single worked, but its the same error msg |
| 18:10.00 | highbury | anything important on the Linux disk? |
| 18:10.28 | jenson | nothing on anything is important right now, i'll just mess around with it for a bit, see what i can do, i cant make it worse |
| 18:10.45 | highbury | as, its going to take a long while to work out what's wrong. You can try and google around, but you may just have to reinstall!!! |
| 18:11.09 | jenson | every newbie corrupts a few installs :) |
| 18:11.16 | highbury | does booting to windows work? |
| 18:11.38 | jenson | yeh, well, as much working as win is right now, but yeh it boots |
| 18:11.40 | highbury | unfortunately Slackware, is not the most newbie friendly |
| 18:12.00 | jenson | i'll mess about with it for a bit, my mum wants the phone so i should go really |
| 18:12.17 | jenson | i'll come back later |
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| 18:26.37 | jenson | Well on consideration of the error msgs that setup was spewing out about my linux partition, that it wasnt 2 hours ago, I'm now reinstalling |
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| 18:28.30 | highbury | good lux |
| 18:29.11 | Jenson | the only bit that bothers me was that it took me about 2hrs to configure my soundcard, other than that it shoukldnt take too long |
| 18:29.13 | Jenson | i hope |
| 18:29.39 | highbury | well hopefully you took notes ;) |
| 18:29.52 | Jenson | i'll just use the logs |
| 18:30.00 | Jenson | or hopefully i might remember it |
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| 18:41.14 | Jenson | hi dummy |
| 18:48.28 | Jenson | I'm gonna get offline now, so my mother can use the phone, when i get back, hopefully i shouyld be on my other system |
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| 20:30.17 | Jjenson | heya guys |
| 20:30.33 | stephen | evening jenson |
| 20:31.13 | Jjenson | heya stephen |
| 20:31.55 | Jjenson | I just noticed I messed my nick up lol |
| 20:39.09 | Jenson | Damn why is it so quiet in here lately |
| 20:40.02 | stephen | an invisble +m |
| 20:41.18 | Jenson | Either that or everyone's gone out to have a life (or a geek meeting) |
| 20:42.18 | stephen | 'a life'? surely not :) |
| 20:42.29 | Jenson | thats why I added or a geek meeting lol |
| 20:42.49 | Jenson | grr KDE is like half crashed |
| 20:42.50 | Jenson | BRB |
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| 20:44.17 | Jenson | thats better |
| 20:50.10 | Jenson | ewwww, no wonder that CD wont mount, its got dry food or something on it |
| 20:52.16 | stephen | heh. |
| 20:53.02 | Jenson | not to mention during my reinstall i change the setup, so now the CDRW drive is setup as ide-scsi |
| 20:54.45 | stephen | yer, I couldn't mount disks from my CD-RW for ages until I found that I hadn't enabled SCSI CDROM support in the kernel. I hit myself hard when I saw that one |
| 20:56.22 | Jenson | well it used to work when it wasnt enabled, but now it is enabled i obviously need to do a little editting of something. that'll teach me to corrupt my nicely working install |
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| 21:02.35 | nasrat | evening |
| 21:02.56 | stephen | evening |
| 21:03.00 | Jenson | evening |
| 21:03.15 | Jenson | yay now ive messed it up more, i'm not gonna go anything else today |
| 21:03.39 | Jenson | Having managed to corrupt a Win install and a Slack install within hopurs of each other, I#d best give up |
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| 21:06.48 | omphe | hi everyone. |
| 21:08.48 | Jenson | heya omphe |
| 21:26.22 | dummy | Jenson: you a slack user? |
| 21:27.15 | Jenson | yeh |
| 21:27.31 | dummy | kewl me too |
| 21:27.37 | dummy | you got cd trouble? |
| 21:28.06 | dummy | was just reading what you said above |
| 21:28.13 | Jenson | my own fault |
| 21:28.18 | Jenson | i made it worse |
| 21:28.22 | dummy | well wass wrong? |
| 21:28.47 | Jenson | i'm not doing anything technical anymmore today lol |
| 21:28.53 | dummy | lol k |
| 21:28.56 | Jenson | i'm just playing with the GIMP |
| 21:28.58 | dummy | cuz i use ide-scsi too |
| 21:32.54 | Jenson | how old are you dummy? |
| 21:34.47 | dummy | gonna be 19 on mon |
| 21:35.12 | Leeds | kids! :-) |
| 21:35.18 | dummy | hehe |
| 21:35.50 | Jenson | heh Leeds |
| 21:36.29 | stephen | lol, I just got an email from 'sucker@haxx0r.net' saying 'YOU SUCK!' |
| 21:37.32 | Leeds | stephen: he's right, you know... |
| 21:37.35 | Leeds | hey Jenson |
| 21:37.50 | stephen | Leeds: gee, thanks ;) |
| 21:37.57 | Jenson | hey murb |
| 21:38.01 | Jenson | ibot lart Leeds |
| 21:38.43 | stephen | oh dear, it was sent from dsl line that probably hasn't changed its IP address, what a twat |
| 21:40.00 | stephen | oh, xmms.org just got rooted |
| 21:40.55 | Leeds | rooted by Allah himself :-) |
| 21:41.05 | Jenson | stephen: idiot hax0r kids *don't* want you to try and trace them |
| 21:41.07 | stephen | indeed |
| 21:41.43 | stephen | Jenson: I know, and frankly I CBA to trace the source of one email, it's not even my server |
| 21:43.18 | Jenson | I wish I knew a little about malicious hacking, just to piss off any script kiddies that try to piss me off |
| 21:44.11 | stephen | hmm, perhaps we ought to buy a firewall or something, there's enough servers to make a decent hardware one not too expensive |
| 21:48.46 | Leeds | whoa - where did 10pm come from??? |
| 21:48.51 | Leeds | nearly bagel time :-) |
| 21:49.07 | Jenson | lol Leeds I'm sure you dont really need food |
| 21:49.18 | Jenson | sleep seems more intelligent |
| 21:49.47 | stephen | no more free meals for me for a month :( |
| 21:50.09 | Jenson | stephen: Easter holidays i take it |
| 21:51.41 | stephen | yep, started yesterday, everyone buggered off |
| 21:52.45 | Jenson | you going to see any particular people, or just doign work and attempting to get your own food? |
| 21:53.45 | stephen | might go and stay relatives in Wales for a couple of weeks |
| 21:54.03 | dummy | anyone running ogle here? |
| 21:54.14 | Leeds | mplayer here |
| 21:54.27 | dummy | ahh |
| 21:54.41 | dummy | ogle is weird i use xv for video display but yet its a blank screen |
| 21:55.28 | dummy | i hate this damn via motherbaord |
| 22:06.08 | Jenson | Well, the clocks change tonight, and I'm half asleep anyway, so night guys |
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| 22:37.54 | zachary | good evening |
| 22:38.09 | Stephen | evening zachary |
| 23:28.33 | zachary | good night |
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