| 00:01.34 | skugg | night, I'm going to bed now |
| 00:01.40 | Jenson | night skugg |
| 00:01.42 | dankolb | 'night skugg |
| 00:02.42 | cupis | formi: not to worry formi. Thanks anyway. |
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| 00:07.47 | cupis | wb Jenson |
| 00:07.52 | Jenson | ty |
| 00:08.38 | dankolb | ETOOMUCHMAIL |
| 00:11.11 | Jenson | Bed time |
| 00:11.13 | Jenson | Night guys |
| 00:11.39 | cupis | night Jenson |
| 00:11.49 | Jenson | night cupis |
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| 00:16.06 | dankolb | 'night all |
| 02:33.50 | highbury | eeek! its late |
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| 03:30.06 | OrangeSkies | hi all |
| 03:30.19 | OrangeSkies | i've run into problems :( |
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| 06:54.58 | zachary | good morning |
| 06:57.52 | eye69 | Morning. |
| 06:58.09 | eye69 | I should go to bed but I'm not especially tired. |
| 07:01.16 | zachary | It's nice to watch the sun rise now and then. :) |
| 07:02.08 | eye69 | It's not like I've got any light coming into my computer room. |
| 07:06.53 | zachary | know anything about the update iso for debian 3.0r1? |
| 07:07.43 | eye69 | Update ISO? Nope. |
| 07:07.53 | eye69 | Updates are done from the net. :) |
| 07:08.33 | eye69 | http://upcore.net/debian/ <- Netinst ISO |
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| 09:02.34 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:03.03 | zachary | Thanks eye69, morning dank_work |
| 09:03.47 | nasrat | morning |
| 09:04.05 | zachary | morning nasrat |
| 09:08.31 | zachary | nasrat: nick a play on tarzan? |
| 09:08.48 | nasrat | zachary: no my surname |
| 09:09.11 | nasrat | although echo nasrat | rev | sed 's/s/z/' |
| 09:10.55 | zachary | probably get that alot? |
| 09:11.11 | nasrat | more so when I was in school |
| 09:13.03 | zachary | daughter has tired eyes, brb |
| 09:29.16 | SpudUAway | It's alright for you lot, my name backwards is Niloc! Too descriptive!! And accurate!!! |
| 09:30.42 | dank_work | :) |
| 09:34.20 | dpash | divad |
| 09:34.27 | dpash | nearly a diva ;) |
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| 09:50.07 | Clyphox | Hey |
| 09:50.50 | dank_work | Hey |
| 09:56.19 | Clyphox | sorry.. system just choked.. outa mem. |
| 09:56.24 | dank_work | Oops |
| 09:56.28 | Clyphox | bloody laptop.. this is weird.. |
| 09:56.42 | Clyphox | I got nearly 200 swap too and thats full.. |
| 09:57.09 | Clyphox | How can I find the memory usage of each program? ps aux sais its all using virtually nothing.. |
| 09:57.25 | dank_work | Not sure |
| 09:57.58 | Clyphox | it might just be a program.. killing xmms.. |
| 09:58.37 | Clyphox | nope.. |
| 09:58.45 | Clyphox | er.. yes! |
| 09:58.54 | Clyphox | lots of swap available now.. |
| 09:58.58 | dank_work | :) |
| 09:59.02 | dank_work | Did you reboot? |
| 09:59.10 | Clyphox | er.. no |
| 09:59.25 | Clyphox | I'm gonna increase my swap quickly.. with no reboot :) |
| 09:59.41 | nasrat | dd is your friend |
| 09:59.45 | Clyphox | :) |
| 09:59.49 | Clyphox | and xcalc |
| 10:00.04 | dank_work | Bah |
| 10:00.04 | dank_work | bc |
| 10:00.17 | Clyphox | how do I use that? |
| 10:00.17 | nasrat | bah, awk |
| 10:01.30 | Clyphox | no bc here.. can you give me an example multiplication with awk? |
| 10:01.45 | dank_work | What about: echo $[ 3*2 ] ? |
| 10:01.48 | dank_work | (assuming bash) |
| 10:01.53 | Clyphox | yeah.. |
| 10:03.29 | Clyphox | hm.. not working |
| 10:07.29 | nasrat | what are you trying to calculate? |
| 10:07.36 | nasrat | something based on ps? |
| 10:08.56 | highbury | awk 'BEGIN {print 10 * 100}' |
| 10:09.38 | highbury | awk '{print $1 + $2, $0}' |
| 10:10.03 | highbury | will add columns 1 and 2 print total followed by rest of line |
| 10:10.50 | highbury | "top" is a usefule utility to watch memory usage |
| 10:11.11 | nasrat | and vmstat for checking for heavy io/swapping |
| 10:17.15 | Clyphox | Hmm.. its definatly a bad thing to dd a mounted swap file |
| 10:17.29 | dank_work | yeah |
| 10:17.29 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:17.36 | Clyphox | really not good.. |
| 10:17.39 | zachary | morning highbury |
| 10:17.47 | Clyphox | I think I need coffee |
| 10:17.52 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:18.00 | Clyphox | God I love an OS that onlt fucks up when I fuck yp! |
| 10:18.04 | Clyphox | er up |
| 10:18.05 | highbury | morning guys |
| 10:18.08 | Clyphox | Hi highbury |
| 10:18.27 | dank_work | Clyphox: And that OS would be? CP/M? |
| 10:18.52 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 10:19.48 | Clyphox | I was really surprised by CP/M when I used it.. I actually thought dos was cool once.. |
| 10:20.58 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:25.55 | Clyphox | That emero fella last night must have been in a really bad mood |
| 10:26.14 | Clyphox | nearly bit my head off just for trying to help him.. |
| 10:29.33 | dank_work | Debian users... |
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| 10:44.56 | highbury | Clyphox: just appeared to a bit of a wanker :-/ |
| 10:45.07 | highbury | emero that is |
| 10:46.50 | Clyphox | Not Like I dissagreed with him.. gnome/kde are to big for slow, old PC's. |
| 10:46.53 | Clyphox | but still.. |
| 10:48.15 | Clyphox | er... gtg.. kitchen work.. |
| 10:48.20 | dank_work | fun |
| 10:48.20 | Clyphox | bbl |
| 10:48.22 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:48.26 | dank_work | cya |
| 10:48.36 | Clyphox | cyas |
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| 11:17.27 | Tarragon | Morning Steev |
| 11:17.35 | Steev | mornin' |
| 11:17.40 | dank_work | Hi Steev and Tarragon |
| 11:17.53 | Steev | hi dank_work and Tarragon |
| 11:18.02 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 11:18.13 | dpash | morning all |
| 11:18.19 | dank_work | Probably |
| 11:18.21 | Steev | hi dpash, dank_work and Tarragon |
| 11:18.21 | dank_work | hi dpash |
| 11:18.50 | dank_work | Lonely? |
| 11:18.55 | Tarragon | Loud music time then? |
| 11:18.58 | dpash | nah. got irc ;) |
| 11:19.00 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:19.12 | dpash | Tarragon: maybe, but I have to answer the phones |
| 11:20.06 | dank_work | HELLO? |
| 11:20.11 | dank_work | NO, I'M ON IRC! |
| 11:23.24 | dpash | our customers keep phoning my bosses mobile instead of calling the office |
| 11:23.32 | dank_work | Bah. Ignore them then |
| 11:25.56 | dpash | we keep telling them, but they keep phoning him |
| 11:26.30 | dank_work | Ignore them :) |
| 11:26.36 | dank_work | It's your bosses mobile. :) |
| 11:29.26 | dpash | can't really get away with that one |
| 11:29.38 | dpash | boss has asked me to phone them |
| 11:29.42 | dank_work | Bwah |
| 11:32.34 | dpash | great |
| 11:32.46 | dpash | printer has just printed out 25 blank sheets of paper |
| 11:34.15 | Tarragon | Why do you want to print out 25 blank pages again? |
| 11:34.38 | nasrat | nice warm paper :) |
| 11:39.14 | Tarragon | Hug the server |
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| 11:54.41 | Tarragon | morning - just |
| 11:55.36 | KMD | good afternoon --minus 5 minutes. hehe |
| 11:56.45 | dpash | Tarragon: I wanted non-blank paper |
| 12:04.07 | dank_work | :) |
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| 12:22.50 | Clyphox | Help |
| 12:23.05 | dank_work | What's up? |
| 12:23.25 | Clyphox | I need to view some PDF's but I'm having font problems galore.. |
| 12:23.38 | Clyphox | It wants some MS ones.. helvetica et.c. |
| 12:23.58 | Clyphox | Not sure how to rehash my fonts either.. |
| 12:24.04 | nasrat | which distro |
| 12:24.18 | Clyphox | slackware |
| 12:25.09 | Clyphox | Ahh I don't have the TTF folder in my X font paths. |
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| 12:25.18 | dank_work | Hi Leeds |
| 12:25.23 | Leeds | hey |
| 12:25.42 | Clyphox | hi Leeds |
| 12:25.47 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 12:26.19 | Clyphox | Anyone? |
| 12:27.09 | Leeds | anyone what? |
| 12:27.40 | Clyphox | I need font help. |
| 12:27.43 | Clyphox | I'm helpless |
| 12:27.54 | Leeds | helpless or clueless? |
| 12:27.58 | Clyphox | All I want is to view a font. |
| 12:28.05 | Clyphox | Not sure.. |
| 12:28.12 | nasrat | do you have the corefonts themselves (corefonts.sf.net) |
| 12:28.13 | Clyphox | er view a PDF I mean |
| 12:28.27 | Leeds | what are you trying to view it with? |
| 12:28.30 | nasrat | you can grab the cab file and you'll need cabextract |
| 12:28.39 | Clyphox | Xpdf and gv |
| 12:28.57 | Leeds | you could always try acroread... |
| 12:29.07 | Clyphox | I think it might be why I can't see all of some of these work documents |
| 12:29.40 | Clyphox | no thanks.. last case scenario.. |
| 12:29.44 | Leeds | I tend to find that xpdf can view pretty much anything nowadays |
| 12:30.00 | Leeds | worst case is going to Windows... acroread is less bad than that |
| 12:30.10 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:30.17 | nasrat | Clyphox: do you have freetype installed |
| 12:30.34 | Clyphox | afaik yes.. trying to check it all |
| 12:30.34 | Leeds | what is the actual problem? Error message, doesn't display, etc... |
| 12:32.37 | dank_work | Hi Huhn |
| 12:32.58 | Clyphox | I just can see the fonts.. on the console it sais something like: |
| 12:33.14 | Huhn | hi dank_work, hi all ;) |
| 12:33.19 | Clyphox | Error: Couldn't find a font for 'Helvetica' |
| 12:33.19 | Clyphox | Error: Couldn't create t1lib font from '/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n019003l.pfb' |
| 12:33.19 | Clyphox | Error: Couldn't create FreeType font from '/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n019003l.pfb' |
| 12:33.20 | Clyphox | Error: Couldn't create t1lib font from '/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n019003l.pfb' |
| 12:33.20 | Clyphox | Error: Couldn't create FreeType font from '/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n019003l.pfb' |
| 12:33.24 | Clyphox | sry bout that.. |
| 12:33.33 | Clyphox | heya Huhn |
| 12:33.56 | Leeds | do you have the core fonts, as nasrat asked? |
| 12:34.49 | Clyphox | yeah.. |
| 12:35.07 | Clyphox | Ahh.. lets see what installpkg /mnt/cdrom/slackware/ap/gnu-gs-fonts-6.0-noarch-1.tgz does.. |
| 12:35.13 | Leeds | and X and freetype can see them? |
| 12:35.26 | Leeds | yeah, installing the fonts might be a good start :-) |
| 12:35.34 | Clyphox | Ahh thats much nicer |
| 12:35.48 | nasrat | Clyphox: and you have fonts.dir fonts.scale |
| 12:35.56 | Clyphox | freetype and X are good.. running anti-aliased gnome2 stuff no prob |
| 12:35.57 | nasrat | in the truetype dir |
| 12:36.13 | Clyphox | whats fonts.dir fonts.scale? |
| 12:37.25 | Clyphox | no just .ttf fonts.. |
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| 12:37.33 | dank_work | hi |
| 12:37.39 | Clyphox | He jenson |
| 12:37.39 | nasrat | you need to run ttmkfdir > fonts.dir in that directory |
| 12:37.52 | jenson | hey |
| 12:38.07 | Clyphox | nasrat, thanks.. |
| 12:38.44 | nasrat | then update the font server xfs, config and restart it |
| 12:39.28 | jenson | Clyphox: You and Tom (I know Beth isn't) and your fiancee coming to the installfest? |
| 12:41.02 | Clyphox | What matters is that I can see the pdf's now thanks :) |
| 12:41.12 | Clyphox | Still got big blank areas on a rather plain .doc |
| 12:41.20 | Clyphox | jenson, I'm in Aberdeen atm.. |
| 12:41.31 | jenson | Clyphox: You gonna be back? |
| 12:41.34 | Clyphox | jenson, I suspect Alex (brother) Beth and tom will though yes |
| 12:41.47 | Clyphox | jenson, Alas no |
| 12:41.51 | jenson | Does Alex chat here? |
| 12:41.58 | Clyphox | Abiword only complains about missing the british dic.. wierd.. I'll have to try OO I suppse :( |
| 12:42.01 | jenson | Beth is going out with a mate on Saturday or something |
| 12:42.17 | Clyphox | jenson, he's on sometimes.. but not really |
| 12:42.28 | Clyphox | ohh.. you know more than I.. |
| 12:42.31 | jenson | Clyphox: What nick? |
| 12:42.35 | dank_work | A4266 |
| 12:42.38 | Clyphox | jenson, a4266 |
| 12:42.38 | jenson | Yeah Tom told me yesterday |
| 12:42.44 | jenson | Oh yeah I've met him |
| 12:43.32 | Clyphox | nasrat, how do I updated it? I seem to remember something like xset fp rehash or something.. |
| 12:43.47 | Clyphox | jenson, he's a weirdo.. you'll like him :) |
| 12:43.48 | dpash | hi jenson |
| 12:44.01 | jenson | heya dpash |
| 12:46.02 | jenson | Clyphox: How old is he? |
| 12:47.12 | Clyphox | We're twins.. |
| 12:47.20 | Clyphox | His 21st on the 21/03 |
| 12:47.29 | Clyphox | I got the looks and the brains.. |
| 12:47.32 | Clyphox | (not) |
| 12:47.34 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:47.40 | dank_work | Your fiancee must think you do |
| 12:47.55 | dank_work | And you're using Slackware, which is a good thing |
| 12:53.11 | Clyphox | Nikki here, I think david's lovely, nomatter what system he uses |
| 12:53.18 | Clyphox | ack |
| 12:53.22 | Clyphox | Slack! |
| 12:53.35 | jenson | :) |
| 12:53.56 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:54.08 | Leeds | :-) |
| 12:54.21 | Clyphox | ^_^ |
| 12:54.27 | Clyphox | ^Nikki^ |
| 12:54.47 | dank_work | yeesss |
| 13:05.15 | Clyphox | Girrlss.. Girrlllss Girrlllss.. |
| 13:05.25 | dank_work | Nothing but trouble, the lot of 'em |
| 13:07.37 | jenson | yeah I know |
| 13:09.44 | jenson | Right |
| 13:09.46 | jenson | Dinner time |
| 13:09.51 | jenson | I might be back soon |
| 13:09.57 | jenson | I might not |
| 13:10.08 | jenson | I might not be back today |
| 13:10.13 | jenson | But I will be back tomorroq |
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| 13:18.46 | dank_work | wb Huhn |
| 13:18.54 | Huhn | ty dank_work |
| 13:20.26 | Clyphox | Coffee is gods drink |
| 13:20.50 | Huhn | coffee is black gold ;) |
| 13:20.53 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:22.35 | Tarragon | Mmmm homemake warm bread :-) |
| 13:22.47 | Huhn | arghs, dcc some :) |
| 13:28.41 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:31.53 | Huhn | wow, I didn't know that Slovakia was that beautiful.. |
| 13:32.09 | dank_work | Some parts are.. |
| 13:32.27 | Huhn | next lbw will be in Slovakia, really nice |
| 13:32.34 | dank_work | yeah |
| 13:33.05 | Tarragon | Slovak is nice and cheap. Very friendly people |
| 13:33.29 | Huhn | I was impressed when they sent the info for the beer prices ;) |
| 13:33.47 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:36.11 | dank_work | How cheap? |
| 13:36.41 | Huhn | I think it was sth 2.5 EUR per liter, could be less |
| 13:38.22 | dank_work | Not bad :) |
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| 14:58.35 | nasrat | hmm, I may go to this lbw |
| 14:59.58 | Huhn | murble: it's fun :)) |
| 15:02.46 | murble | Huhn: Well, I've been reading the list, and am trying to figure out how to get their. |
| 15:02.51 | murble | s/their/there/ |
| 15:03.49 | murble | People seem to be flying to Munich |
| 15:04.35 | Huhn | murble: yes, but p2 said he would be going by car.. |
| 15:07.11 | murble | but not on any of the lists? |
| 15:08.13 | Huhn | no, he sent a pm |
| 15:08.41 | Huhn | you could ask him, as far as I know the car should be big enough for 2 ppl, and you could share the costs |
| 15:11.38 | murble | well my last experience of p2s driving was lost in Koeln not being able to find the youth pris^Whostel |
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| 15:16.19 | murble | hi dead. |
| 15:18.07 | resuDaed_ | afternoon murble ... just using my box to bypass college proxies |
| 15:22.53 | dpash | anyone going to cebit? |
| 15:24.02 | dpash | before the end of march |
| 15:24.12 | dpash | fancy going to germany |
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| 15:26.58 | dpash | Huhn: ping |
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| 15:27.23 | dpash | hi steve |
| 15:27.33 | fallen_angel | that wasn't steve |
| 15:27.46 | dpash | [15:27] -!- fallen_angel is steve causer-smith |
| 15:27.54 | fallen_angel | doh |
| 15:28.12 | resuDaed_ssh | he's with me ... I thought you thought that he was 'steve' |
| 15:28.48 | dpash | resuDaed_ssh: no, he claims to be a steve |
| 15:28.53 | dpash | [15:26] -!- steve is steve causer-smith |
| 15:29.02 | resuDaed_ssh | I know ... but there already is a steve |
| 15:29.58 | dank_work | ETOOMANYSTEVES |
| 15:30.36 | dpash | so given my 6 days should I go to geekski or cebit? |
| 15:31.25 | Huhn | dpash: geekski |
| 15:31.28 | Tarragon | Walk round a computer show or ski and drink beer with geeks? |
| 15:31.41 | dpash | how much will geekski cost? |
| 15:31.48 | dpash | I can't ski |
| 15:31.52 | dank_work | Heh |
| 15:31.53 | Huhn | dunno, depends.. |
| 15:31.56 | Tarragon | How much do you intend to drink? |
| 15:32.04 | dpash | Huhn: very cheap please |
| 15:32.11 | Huhn | accomodation is 35 EUR per night, incl. breakfast and dinner |
| 15:32.20 | dpash | Tarragon: none of that westmille tripel |
| 15:32.23 | Huhn | the skiing pass is around 30 EUR a day (I'd guess) |
| 15:32.31 | dpash | how many days? |
| 15:32.34 | Huhn | travel costs.. no idea, depends on the flights |
| 15:32.59 | Huhn | 7 days |
| 15:33.10 | dpash | is that 7 nights? |
| 15:33.17 | dpash | or 6 days? |
| 15:33.22 | dpash | s/days/night/ |
| 15:33.25 | Huhn | that depends on the flights you can get |
| 15:33.33 | Huhn | I'm going from 22.3. - 30.3. |
| 15:33.36 | Huhn | Liam and Ann too |
| 15:33.48 | Huhn | some other geeks go from 21.3.-29.3. |
| 15:33.58 | Huhn | again: other ppl go for 5 days |
| 15:34.07 | Huhn | that would be best, there's a mailinglist |
| 15:34.56 | dpash | address? |
| 15:35.59 | resuDaed_ssh | how do you uyse wget to download an enitre sirte? |
| 15:36.07 | resuDaed_ssh | s/sirte/site |
| 15:36.49 | nasrat | -m |
| 15:37.39 | Huhn | Geekski mailing list |
| 15:37.39 | Huhn | Geekski@hands.com |
| 15:37.39 | Huhn | http://hands.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geekski |
| 15:38.20 | nasrat | anyone know anything about ansi standard and auto arrays |
| 15:40.02 | dank_work | resuDaed_ssh: wget -m http://blah.com |
| 15:40.08 | dank_work | But be careful it doesn't start going off-site |
| 15:45.58 | dank_work | Can you send me one on a floppy disk? |
| 15:47.02 | nasrat | 5 1/4 preferably |
| 15:47.32 | dank_work | 5.25" Bah. |
| 15:47.34 | dank_work | 8" |
| 15:54.17 | resuDaed_ssh | dpash : could be nasty considering my laptop has only a 40Mb HDD |
| 15:55.20 | resuDaed_ssh | whats the best way of allowing someone to upl;oad files to my box? |
| 15:55.29 | dank_work | ssh / scp |
| 15:55.34 | nasrat | webdav over ssl |
| 15:55.42 | fallen_angel | how difficult is it to scp from winnt |
| 15:55.43 | fallen_angel | ?> |
| 15:55.51 | resuDaed_ssh | opps ... wrong window :-) |
| 15:56.12 | dank_work | Why does he ask a question, and then run off? |
| 15:56.38 | resuDaed_ssh | dank_work : he didn't, I typed it on another windows ... /quit so I dont get too confused? |
| 15:58.16 | Leeds | resuDaed or whoever you are - putty! |
| 15:58.18 | dank_work | What? |
| 15:58.48 | murble | wihtout putty the windows would fall out. |
| 15:59.15 | resuDaed_ssh | I know ... I'm on putty @ moment ... but never used it to scp |
| 15:59.29 | Leeds | putty has a scp client... |
| 15:59.33 | dank_work | You want pscp you do |
| 15:59.42 | dank_work | ibot putty |
| 15:59.42 | | it has been said that putty is a GPLed ssh/scp for win32 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ |
| 15:59.58 | resuDaed_ssh | ibot resuDaed |
| 15:59.59 | | hmm... resudaed is finally using a respectable version of linux, or has a thing (about debian) |
| 16:00.03 | murble | hmm it is't GPLed is it? |
| 16:00.11 | dank_work | I thought it was |
| 16:00.48 | murble | no it isn't. |
| 16:01.00 | dank_work | Oh, okay. |
| 16:01.00 | murble | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/licence.html |
| 16:01.05 | dank_work | Well, it's open-sores, anyway |
| 16:02.02 | nasrat | hmm, interesting seems to have used some of Robert de Bath's stuff who maintains dev86 (the 8086 compile tools) |
| 16:02.08 | zachary | resuDaed_ssh: have you seen the temp job offer that was posted to the mailing list? |
| 16:05.40 | resuDaed_ssh | no, I'll have a look when I get home |
| 16:06.53 | zachary | 6month junior administrator position, winnt4, linux/solaris. |
| 16:07.17 | resuDaed_ssh | sweet ... mayeb I'll lynx through ~/Mail then |
| 16:09.52 | dpash | resuDaed_ssh: are you using debian or slack? |
| 16:12.42 | dank_work | dpash: Unfortunately Debian, so it's not that respectable |
| 16:13.31 | resuDaed_ssh | zachary : what was the subject of the job offer? (exact) |
| 16:13.50 | resuDaed_ssh | dpash : I am using both ... one on each box |
| 16:13.59 | murble | [Gllug] VACANCY - 6 month junior sysadmin contract |
| 16:31.40 | dpash | dank_work: debian is very respectable |
| 16:31.50 | dpash | it has package managers and stuff |
| 16:32.09 | resuDaed_ssh | laters all |
| 16:33.00 | dpash | anyone on geekski here? |
| 16:33.12 | dpash | any ideas of costs for ski equit hire |
| 16:40.49 | murble | I think the ski pass was about 180 euros |
| 16:40.54 | murble | I don't know about hire |
| 16:41.11 | dpash | murble: HuhnSHOP said 30EUR/day |
| 16:41.41 | dpash | cost of accomodation, ski pass and flights is currently 380 GBP |
| 16:41.51 | murble | flights are about 90 quid |
| 16:42.01 | murble | then train, i don't know howmuch that costs |
| 16:42.03 | dpash | just lunch, beer, ski hire and spending money |
| 16:42.22 | dpash | how far is munich from Tux? |
| 16:42.37 | murble | dpash: easyjet to munich |
| 16:42.45 | dpash | murble: yep |
| 16:42.58 | dpash | 81.76 GBP |
| 16:43.27 | nasrat | bahn.de |
| 16:46.56 | dpash | murble: there is the nearest train? |
| 16:47.05 | murble | dpash: Ski pass ca. EUR 20-25 per day -> 5days ->~120EUR, 7days ->~170EUR |
| 16:47.28 | murble | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.57 | murble | reHuhn |
| 17:00.40 | Huhn | remurble ;) |
| 17:01.23 | dpash | Huhn: so will I still get accomodation? |
| 17:01.57 | Huhn | dpash: I have to ask, you can say you're interested and I will ask them tomorrow when I call again |
| 17:02.07 | Huhn | same for murble |
| 17:02.42 | dpash | murble: are you near stansteed? |
| 17:02.54 | dpash | Huhn: any idea on equitment hire? |
| 17:03.24 | Huhn | dpash: no idea how much that is |
| 17:03.48 | Huhn | dpash: I suggest google for tux.at and have a look at the prices of the shops.. |
| 17:04.04 | dpash | Huhn: cool |
| 17:04.21 | dpash | how many german speakers will we have? |
| 17:05.18 | Huhn | dpash: me.. and... me :) |
| 17:05.22 | Huhn | I dunno ;) |
| 17:05.50 | dpash | how much english do they speak in austria? |
| 17:06.03 | Huhn | my brother, my parents and my uncle/aunt do not count.. ;) they#re staying in another village but same time (coincidence) |
| 17:06.21 | Huhn | dpash: funny accent, but they do speak English ;) |
| 17:06.29 | murble | dpash: high wycombe. |
| 17:06.38 | murble | 18 quid by bus, if the bust turs up. |
| 17:10.11 | Huhn | dpash, murble: as soon as you know that you want to come, please let me know with a definite answer, since it is really horrible to have to phone every day and change plans for the group |
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| 17:48.11 | dank_work | Bwah. I want pub. Waiting for friend to arrive... |
| 17:51.53 | dpash | Huhn: I need to work out how much money I don't have |
| 17:52.02 | Huhn | dpash: sure |
| 17:52.13 | dpash | If it is going to cost me 600GBP I need to find some of that |
| 17:52.15 | nasrat | gotta go beer calls |
| 17:52.21 | dpash | hmm |
| 17:52.49 | dpash | Huhn: are you booking doubles with shower and WC? |
| 17:53.03 | Huhn | dpash: nobody wanted to share rooms |
| 17:53.16 | dpash | Etagendusche? |
| 17:53.22 | dpash | shared shower? |
| 17:53.24 | Huhn | that's a shared shower, right |
| 17:53.48 | Huhn | lol |
| 17:53.49 | Huhn | what's wrong with that? |
| 17:53.57 | dpash | I don't know any german |
| 17:54.24 | dpash | other than ich habe kiene partner |
| 17:54.30 | dank_work | keine |
| 17:54.32 | Huhn | rotfl |
| 17:54.34 | dpash | which I learnt well at school |
| 17:54.37 | Huhn | that's more important |
| 17:54.56 | dpash | dank_work: I never said I could write german |
| 17:54.59 | Huhn | (btw: ich habe keinen Partner) |
| 17:55.17 | dpash | close enough for me |
| 17:56.23 | Leeds | little, no? |
| 17:56.54 | dank_work | kleine |
| 17:56.56 | Leeds | or possibly no, no |
| 17:57.05 | Leeds | :-) |
| 17:57.20 | murble | Leeds: geekski? |
| 17:57.24 | Leeds | nope |
| 17:58.04 | Leeds | and I'm still not keen on the whole lbw/geekski concept |
| 17:58.15 | dank_work | why not? |
| 17:58.57 | Leeds | to be honest... |
| 17:59.05 | Leeds | I prefer to go on holiday with non-geek friends |
| 17:59.26 | Huhn | nothing wrong with that |
| 17:59.36 | dank_work | Fair enough |
| 18:00.10 | dank_work | Awww |
| 18:00.20 | Leeds | I've just booked 6 days in Spain with a very good friend (*his* mum grew up with *my mum) for June - more my kind of thing :-) |
| 18:00.25 | Leeds | dank_work: you really can't! :-) |
| 18:00.26 | murble | s/non-geeky//g |
| 18:00.27 | dank_work | But, right now, I'm off to the pub |
| 18:00.32 | dank_work | Leeds: Wanna bet? ;-) |
| 18:00.48 | dpash | murble: for me, or for you? |
| 18:06.28 | Leeds | dank_work: seeya |
| 18:07.02 | Huhn | bye dank_work |
| 18:11.07 | dpash | hmmm one shop is quoting about 51EUR for a ski kit for 5 or 6 days |
| 18:11.18 | dpash | I assume that is just skis and bootsa |
| 18:12.10 | dpash | can you hire those too? |
| 18:12.32 | Leeds | 51EUR sounds quite cheap... are you sure it includes skis? |
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| 18:13.20 | dpash | they list ski set: 51, ski: 46, boot: 26 |
| 18:13.35 | dpash | I was thinking that the set was ski+boot |
| 18:13.40 | dpash | that is for 6 days |
| 18:13.56 | dpash | unless a ski set is nice warm clothing |
| 18:14.03 | dpash | it doesn;t really say |
| 18:15.45 | Leeds | fair enough... I could be very wrong |
| 18:15.47 | dpash | maybe I should look at another few sites to compare |
| 18:16.04 | Leeds | you could always use the voice web (aka call them) to ask |
| 18:17.03 | murble | that would require having a common language |
| 18:17.21 | murble | or can you get babelfish.altavista.com for voice calls? |
| 18:17.31 | murble | VoIP via babelfish anyone? |
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| 18:20.30 | formi | hello |
| 18:22.19 | dpash | from my flakey german, those prices don't look too bad |
| 18:22.21 | murble | ehlo murble |
| 18:22.45 | formi | murble: wrong output |
| 18:22.46 | dpash | I think about 100EUR-100GBP will be the cost of boot+ski(+clothes?) |
| 18:24.01 | Leeds | I tend to find that a lot of places will be happy to speak Enlish if you call them... |
| 18:24.36 | formi | leeds another for you, this time galeon |
| 18:24.44 | formi | http://www.its-formi.net/photos/galeon_odd.jpg |
| 18:24.51 | formi | http://www.its-formi.net/photos/galeon_ok.jpg |
| 18:25.36 | formi | well, its-formi.net, formi.co.uk, formi.org.uk |
| 18:25.47 | formi | formi.connectfree.co.uk |
| 18:25.52 | formi | red-ant.org.uk |
| 18:26.00 | formi | that's all |
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| 18:28.23 | formi | with the screenshots I posted, if you highlight the offending bit, you can find the right text |
| 18:28.54 | formi | once you stop highlighting it, it reverts to giberish |
| 18:29.37 | dpash | okay we are at about 440GBP with ski hire, accomodation, half board, plane. just lunch, beer, train, bus and spending money to go |
| 18:30.07 | dpash | so budget 600GBP and we should be okay |
| 18:33.45 | murble | I think skiing is tooexensive. |
| 18:33.48 | murble | p |
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| 18:38.25 | OrangeSkies | Hi |
| 18:39.04 | formi | murble: have you made a decision about mangling data on a ship? |
| 18:40.11 | formi | hi OrangeSkies |
| 18:41.43 | dpash | murble: for a week, it is not cheap |
| 18:41.49 | Leeds | bye all |
| 18:43.10 | OrangeSkies | can someone tell me, is it normal for windows to be very jerky when dragged across the screen in linux? |
| 18:43.59 | formi | depends |
| 18:44.07 | formi | how old is X |
| 18:45.53 | OrangeSkies | X being.... ? |
| 18:45.59 | OrangeSkies | im a newbie :( |
| 18:46.32 | OrangeSkies | ive just installed mandrake 9.0 so itll be whatever came with it |
| 18:46.59 | formi | X is the framework that provides part of the gui system |
| 18:47.18 | formi | basically drives the hardware |
| 18:47.26 | OrangeSkies | ah okay |
| 18:47.43 | dpash | argh, can't install java |
| 18:48.02 | formi | dpash: that's normal |
| 18:48.15 | OrangeSkies | ive got the feeling everythings running a bit slow, windows are very slow to minimise and the 3D games are unplayable |
| 18:48.17 | formi | have you tried the ibm one |
| 18:48.45 | dpash | formi: I want a 1.3 |
| 18:48.46 | formi | you probably don't have acceleration on |
| 18:48.56 | murble | formi: it wasn't on a ship and i've not applied for it. |
| 18:49.27 | OrangeSkies | how do you turn it on? |
| 18:49.34 | formi | murble: ok |
| 18:49.55 | formi | which card are you using? |
| 18:50.39 | OrangeSkies | nvidia vanta 8mb |
| 18:52.21 | murble | vantas are horrible. |
| 18:52.50 | OrangeSkies | i know, im in serious need of an upgrade |
| 18:58.13 | OrangeSkies | so is there anything i can do? |
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| 19:11.54 | zachary | brb |
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| 20:13.49 | Huhn | *sigh* |
| 20:13.56 | Huhn | any Newcastle supporters around? |
| 20:14.02 | Huhn | congrats in that case :/ |
| 20:15.07 | formi | oh no |
| 20:15.28 | formi | the last thing this channel needs is sports talk |
| 20:15.29 | dpash | Huhn: are you the right side of the tyne to say that? |
| 20:15.31 | formi | sorry Huhn |
| 20:16.00 | Huhn | dpash: ? |
| 20:16.06 | formi | dpash: she is on the side of the channel |
| 20:16.14 | formi | dpash: she is on the other side of the channel |
| 20:16.48 | formi | Huhn: he is talking probably about some english river |
| 20:17.08 | Huhn | no idea :) |
| 20:17.28 | dpash | Huhn: newcastle and sunderland do not get on. they are either side of the Tyne |
| 20:17.52 | Huhn | dpash: ah, like Cologne and Duesseldorf ;) |
| 20:17.55 | dpash | our wonderful leader of the opposition decided to congratulate Newcastle in Sunderland |
| 20:18.06 | dpash | Huhn: probably |
| 20:18.15 | Huhn | dpash: so, what's the "right" side of the Tyne? |
| 20:18.31 | formi | Duesseldorf |
| 20:18.36 | dpash | Huhn: tip: don't wear black and white vertical strips in sunderland |
| 20:18.41 | dpash | formi: lol |
| 20:18.49 | Huhn | dpash: I do not intend to go there ;) |
| 20:18.52 | formi | is there where Rammsteinn are from? |
| 20:19.08 | Huhn | no idea where Ramstein is from |
| 20:19.08 | dpash | Huhn: depends what you are saying. If you congratulate newcastle, do it on the Newcastle side of the tyne |
| 20:19.24 | dpash | Huhn: probably a good idea. |
| 20:19.27 | Huhn | dpash: that was pure irony, I'm a Leverkusen supporter ;) |
| 20:19.41 | dpash | Huhn: never heard of them |
| 20:19.43 | formi | Huhn: Rammsteinn some heavy industrial music band |
| 20:19.55 | Huhn | formi: I know Ramstein |
| 20:19.56 | nasrat | formi: they aren't that heavy |
| 20:20.05 | Huhn | but I have no idea where they are from |
| 20:20.22 | dpash | much like I have no idea where Leverkusen is |
| 20:20.27 | formi | I'm not a expert on music styles, I just like them |
| 20:20.32 | Huhn | dpash: few metres from Cologne ;) |
| 20:20.44 | Huhn | oh noooo :((( |
| 20:21.01 | dpash | goal? |
| 20:21.06 | Huhn | yes :( |
| 20:21.21 | Huhn | Shearer again |
| 20:21.23 | dpash | I take it that it wasn;t for your team |
| 20:21.26 | Huhn | so what.. |
| 20:21.27 | dpash | old fart |
| 20:25.25 | dpash | w00t 548 words |
| 20:25.36 | Huhn | dpash: how many do you need? |
| 20:26.04 | dpash | 600-700 |
| 20:26.23 | dpash | I have one section left to write tomorrow night |
| 20:26.29 | Huhn | I have 4382C written and need around 11500 |
| 20:26.41 | dpash | and then I can start removing words until Sunday |
| 20:26.45 | formi | look for a marketing drone or a politician |
| 20:27.05 | formi | they are very good at saying many things and meaning nothing |
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| 21:17.27 | eye69 | Evolution is nice. |
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| 21:20.45 | resuBitch | Hi all |
| 21:21.21 | dpash | hi beth |
| 21:21.34 | resuBitch | Whoz u? :) |
| 21:26.10 | resuBitch | dpash: no response? |
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| 21:36.33 | dpash | resuBitch: what as the question again? |
| 21:36.39 | dpash | a/as/was/ |
| 21:38.44 | resuBitch | dpash: asked who u were.. |
| 21:39.14 | resuBitch | Everyone seems to know me more than I know them... |
| 21:42.37 | dpash | resuBitch: that is because you joined: |
| 21:42.40 | dpash | [21:20] -!- resuBitch [beth@pc-80-193-187-194-en.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #gllug |
| 21:42.43 | dpash | [21:20] -!- resuBitch is Beth |
| 21:42.53 | formi | http://www.lycos.co.uk/webguides/relationships/kama/kama_tiger.html |
| 21:43.11 | formi | come on, don't they teach those things at school? |
| 21:43.45 | dpash | formi: you just didn;t look in the right places |
| 21:44.10 | formi | what do you mean? |
| 21:44.16 | dpash | resuBitch: I will be at the Installfest |
| 21:44.23 | dpash | formi: I can;t read |
| 21:44.38 | formi | ?? |
| 21:44.45 | dpash | formi: ignore me |
| 21:45.01 | formi | for ever? |
| 21:45.10 | dpash | formi: no, just in the past |
| 21:45.21 | resuBitch | dpash: I was at the last one, but wont make the next. |
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| 21:45.38 | dpash | resuBitch: so when will I get to meet you? |
| 21:46.15 | resuBitch | dpash: do u want to? |
| 21:46.40 | resuBitch | formi: what's resuDaed been saying about me?? ( want gossip :) ) |
| 21:46.52 | dpash | resuBitch: it is always nice to meet people from irc |
| 21:46.55 | formi | logs |
| 21:47.07 | dpash | gives you a better idea of who people are |
| 21:47.08 | resuBitch | dpash: true. Though was the other way round for me... |
| 21:47.23 | resuBitch | logs or lots??? |
| 21:48.04 | resuBitch | dpash: I'm dating resuDaed, meet everyone one last month, then joined. |
| 21:48.25 | dpash | resuBitch: I figured you knew resuDaed |
| 21:48.27 | dpash | ;) |
| 21:48.36 | dpash | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem2003/Saturday/img_0058--thumb.jpg |
| 21:48.37 | resuBitch | So want the gossip. |
| 21:48.46 | resuBitch | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem2003/Saturday/img_0058--thumb.j |
| 21:48.46 | resuBitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.47 | resuBitch | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem2003/Saturday/img_0058--thumb.j |
| 21:48.47 | resuBitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.56 | resuBitch | ? |
| 21:49.23 | dpash | s/fingure/finger/ |
| 21:49.25 | resuBitch | Ah! Is that what happened? |
| 21:49.35 | resuBitch | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem2003/Saturday/img_0058--thumb.j |
| 21:49.35 | resuBitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.40 | resuBitch | ah!!!!! |
| 21:49.46 | resuBitch | Bloody hell. |
| 21:49.53 | dpash | resuBitch: if you select something and then press the middle button it will paste it |
| 21:50.06 | resuBitch | I have no middle button... |
| 21:50.41 | dpash | resuBitch: both buttons together act as a middle button |
| 21:51.17 | resuBitch | grr. |
| 21:51.22 | resuBitch | Will get there one day |
| 21:51.37 | resuBitch | ( I'm not a geek.. yet apparently. ) |
| 21:52.21 | dpash | resuBitch: you are a few steps further than most |
| 21:52.39 | resuBitch | dpash: pride myself on managing to get in! |
| 21:54.18 | dpash | brb loading gnome |
| 21:56.04 | dpash | okay gnome isn;t appearing in my kdm menu |
| 21:57.54 | resuBitch | dpash: Haven't a clue what it is... |
| 21:58.22 | resuBitch | http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/fosdem2003/Saturday/img_0058--thumb.j |
| 21:58.22 | resuBitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.46 | resuBitch | Bloody hell |
| 21:59.11 | dpash | resuBitch: type it out by hand |
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| 22:03.28 | resuBitch | dpash: wasn't trying to copy it again, just used the wrong key |
| 22:04.24 | resuBitch | dpash: what is it btw? |
| 22:06.55 | dpash | a picture of me |
| 22:07.28 | resuBitch | dpash: Ah! |
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| 22:08.11 | resuBitch | dpash: may have one of resuDaed and I... |
| 22:09.11 | pie | 'lo |
| 22:09.44 | resuBitch | Hi poe |
| 22:09.50 | resuBitch | LoL Pie even |
| 22:09.53 | pie | :-) |
| 22:10.26 | pie | OK, who wants to have a look at a really interesting perl problem who's answer is not 'use c'? |
| 22:11.00 | pie | Hmm, not too many takers |
| 22:13.15 | resuBitch | pie: don't know what it is. ;) |
| 22:13.28 | pie | :-) |
| 22:13.30 | pie | http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20030224/017176.html |
| 22:13.36 | pie | If you are really interested |
| 22:13.37 | resuBitch | dpash: http://213.106.84.104/~john/GLLUG/030118/resudaedElizabreth1.png |
| 22:14.03 | resuBitch | pie: that's ok, wouldn't understand. |
| 22:14.40 | pie | :-) |
| 22:16.20 | dpash | resuBitch: quite a good beard you have there ;) |
| 22:17.48 | formi | oi |
| 22:17.56 | formi | who took that photo? |
| 22:18.38 | pie | not resuBitch |
| 22:18.42 | pie | or formi |
| 22:19.03 | formi | pie: I guessed that |
| 22:19.57 | pie | you never can be too careful formi, the walls have ears. |
| 22:20.17 | pie | and the cielings take photos. |
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| 22:20.57 | dpash | formi: sorry who is in that photo apart from resuBitch |
| 22:21.00 | dpash | hi paul |
| 22:21.10 | cupis | evening all |
| 22:21.18 | pie | 'lo |
| 22:22.15 | pie | cupis, you know perl? |
| 22:22.36 | cupis | pie: yes |
| 22:23.00 | pie | Ooooh, any good? I have a hard problem... |
| 22:23.09 | cupis | pie: what's the problem? |
| 22:23.13 | pie | http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20030224/017176.html |
| 22:23.14 | formi | dpash: me is the guy with the glasses |
| 22:23.23 | pie | and the next in the thread |
| 22:24.30 | formi | I remenber now tarragon as his dodgy cam |
| 22:24.38 | formi | I remenber now tarragon and his dodgy cam |
| 22:26.41 | cupis | pie: if you run the CGI from the command line, with warnings turned on, what warnings does perl give? or are there any warning left in the server error log? |
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| 22:27.37 | resuBitch | formi: was a bit dodgy... |
| 22:27.43 | pie | not tried, the actual script is pretty big |
| 22:27.57 | pie | I have warnings and strict turned on |
| 22:28.07 | dankolb | Hey |
| 22:28.45 | cupis | pie: if you turn off strict, does it work? otherwise, we need to see what warning perl is giving - does the script have write permissions on the target directory? |
| 22:28.51 | cupis | hi dankolb |
| 22:29.05 | pie | 'lo |
| 22:29.08 | pie | yes |
| 22:29.21 | resuBitch | hi dan |
| 22:29.36 | pie | the thing is, it works when called from one place in the script (it is a sub), but not from another |
| 22:29.49 | pie | except when the text/plain header is output |
| 22:32.07 | cupis | pie: are you using: |
| 22:32.07 | cupis | use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser warningsToBrowser); |
| 22:32.08 | cupis | warningsToBrowser(1); |
| 22:32.19 | cupis | ? |
| 22:32.47 | pie | sec |
| 22:32.59 | pie | no, but then the script doesn't die |
| 22:33.17 | pie | the script should die leaving the relavent error message in the logs. |
| 22:33.26 | cupis | pie: those lines will tell perl to send the warning to the output HTML as comments |
| 22:33.30 | pie | It doesn't write the file, but doesn't die |
| 22:33.45 | pie | Yes, but I can check the error_logs for those warnings |
| 22:33.55 | cupis | pie: change the print line to create a file with some static text in - see if that works |
| 22:34.04 | cupis | pie: are there any warnings? |
| 22:34.25 | pie | none, although warnings are turned on in the script |
| 22:35.56 | pie | Yep, that works |
| 22:36.20 | pie | it writes to the file when I make it write a static line |
| 22:38.41 | cupis | pie: so we've narrowed the problem to the binary input/binary output print line, right? |
| 22:39.24 | pie | Yep, except that that line does work when the subroutine is called from a different part of the script... |
| 22:39.49 | cupis | pie: so maybe it's the input file not being picked up properly? |
| 22:40.33 | pie | possibly, I am using the same file for testing |
| 22:40.48 | pie | and it works when I use one section and not another |
| 22:41.13 | pie | What is confusing me is that printing the text/plain header makes it work, I can't see how it does that |
| 22:41.27 | cupis | try: if($file) { print "file exists"; } else { print "file? what file?"; } |
| 22:42.07 | cupis | pie: the other time the script is called, has an HTTP header been printed? |
| 22:42.31 | pie | I am not sure where you mean, but I am checking that the file doesn't exist before attempting to write it and I can see that the file isn't there afterwards |
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| 22:42.36 | pie | no |
| 22:43.08 | cupis | pie: not checking the file exists, but checking there is some content in the $file variable waiting to be read |
| 22:43.21 | cupis | wb dpash |
| 22:43.31 | pie | sec |
| 22:44.31 | pie | Yep, data there |
| 22:45.20 | cupis | pie: try printing the text/plain header and dumping the file to STDOUT? |
| 22:45.31 | cupis | to confirm it is being read successfully? |
| 22:45.46 | pie | how do I do that (when being run as a CGI)? |
| 22:46.12 | cupis | pie: use Data::Dumper; print Dumper( $file ); |
| 22:46.19 | dpash | back again |
| 22:48.15 | pie | $VAR1 = bless( \*{'Fh::fh00001File0001.jpg'}, 'Fh' ); |
| 22:48.39 | cupis | pie: I suppose you might like to use Content-type: image/jpg rather than tesxt/plain :) |
| 22:49.11 | pie | well, it just dumps $VAR1 = bless( \*{'Fh::fh00001File0001.jpg'}, 'Fh' ); |
| 22:49.16 | pie | not binary data |
| 22:49.42 | cupis | pie: okay, what about if you do print $file; ? |
| 22:49.54 | cupis | (i.e. without Data::Dumper |
| 22:49.57 | cupis | ) |
| 22:50.21 | pie | File0001.jpg |
| 22:51.03 | cupis | pie: what about if you use image/jpg and print $buffer (instead of $file?) |
| 22:51.46 | pie | will try |
| 22:52.47 | pie | works, I get the jpeg |
| 22:53.27 | cupis | now use image/jpg and print OUTPUT $buffer; |
| 22:54.21 | pie | works, but I get: |
| 22:54.22 | pie | The image ?http://localhost/cgi-bin/ebulbs/admin.pl? cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. |
| 22:54.54 | pie | problem is though, it *does* work as long as I output a header before trying to do the file write |
| 22:55.04 | cupis | pie: do: print OUTPUT $buffer; print $buffer; |
| 22:56.00 | pie | works, but with the same error |
| 22:57.18 | pie | Hmmm, it is almost like some buffer is getting flushed when I print the header or something |
| 22:57.34 | pie | I tried setting $| to 1 but it didn't make a difference |
| 22:59.20 | cupis | pie: but without the HTTP header and using print OUTPUT $buffer; if doesn't work? |
| 22:59.40 | pie | will try |
| 23:01.14 | pie | it works if I print no HTTP header |
| 23:01.38 | pie | obviously with a 500 error from apache |
| 23:01.56 | cupis | pie: remove the 'exit;' |
| 23:02.26 | cupis | does it still work? |
| 23:02.59 | pie | nope, stops working |
| 23:03.26 | cupis | instead of exit;, use print "Content-type: text/plain\n\nWork, damnit!\n"; |
| 23:03.28 | pie | Wierd... |
| 23:04.09 | pie | nope, still nothing |
| 23:04.44 | cupis | try my print line folowed directly by exit; |
| 23:05.14 | pie | that worked... |
| 23:06.04 | cupis | pie: That part of the script works. It's later that the script fails. |
| 23:06.29 | pie | but surely the file should be written when I close OUTPUT? |
| 23:06.38 | cupis | i.e. if you create the file (and optionally print a test output) it works. |
| 23:06.46 | cupis | pie: no, you are wrong. |
| 23:06.53 | pie | :-) |
| 23:06.57 | pie | me, never :-) |
| 23:07.25 | cupis | pie: when you close, it is still in a buffer. it is written when the buffer is flushed. if the script dies, the buffer is discarded, not flushed. |
| 23:08.08 | pie | how about if I set $! to 1? |
| 23:08.11 | pie | OK, woerd |
| 23:08.14 | pie | wierd |
| 23:08.26 | cupis | you need to set autoflush or $| |
| 23:10.42 | pie | setting $| to 1 doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 23:11.02 | pie | I put the code segment in { } and used local $| = 1; |
| 23:13.47 | cupis | pie: use IO::Handle; OUTPUT->autoflush(1); |
| 23:13.59 | cupis | after opening, before printing |
| 23:15.02 | pie | nope, doesn't work |
| 23:15.08 | pie | I now have: |
| 23:15.17 | cupis | autoflush(0) ? |
| 23:15.22 | pie | { |
| 23:15.23 | pie | local $| = 1; |
| 23:15.23 | pie | open (OUTPUT, ">$upload_dir$filename") or die "Could not open file $upload_dir$file for writing: $!"; |
| 23:15.23 | pie | use IO::Handle; |
| 23:15.23 | pie | OUTPUT->autoflush(1); |
| 23:15.25 | pie | while (read($file, $buffer, $buffer_size)) { |
| 23:15.27 | pie | #print $buffer; |
| 23:15.29 | pie | print OUTPUT $buffer; |
| 23:15.31 | pie | #print $buffer; |
| 23:15.34 | pie | } |
| 23:15.35 | pie | close(OUTPUT) or die "Could not close file $upload_dir$file : $!"; |
| 23:15.37 | pie | } |
| 23:15.48 | pie | also nope |
| 23:16.21 | cupis | pie: fix the script so it doesn't die before the buffers are flushed? |
| 23:16.49 | pie | id doesn't die, it outputs valid HTML and I get a 200 OK from apache |
| 23:16.51 | cupis | or try just $| =1; without localising |
| 23:17.36 | pie | unlocaling $| doesn't work. |
| 23:17.52 | pie | I hate computers... |
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| 23:39.53 | dankolb | Hi Leeds |
| 23:40.19 | Leeds | evening |
