| 00:00.09 | Clyphox | I saw the pictures.. |
| 00:01.14 | Jenson | You mean the ones of us from Saturday dan? |
| 00:01.22 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 00:01.29 | dankolb | Also any other Gllug pictures |
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| 00:01.51 | Jenson | I have the ones of us, and zach, and Tom and Formi |
| 00:02.02 | dankolb | Yeah, they were Tarragon's |
| 00:02.14 | Jenson | Oh yeah |
| 00:02.20 | Jenson | I aint seen the others no |
| 00:02.27 | dankolb | You mean you haven't? |
| 00:02.57 | Jenson | That in all |
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| 00:03.19 | Jenson | wb zimm hon |
| 00:03.28 | zimm | lol |
| 00:04.05 | dankolb | If you want to play with others.... |
| 00:04.10 | Jenson | I hate BitchX too...use XChat |
| 00:04.23 | zimm | i am now |
| 00:04.29 | Jenson | dankolb: I was just being helpful |
| 00:04.30 | zimm | X wasnt running before |
| 00:04.37 | dankolb | Jenson: Yeah yeah |
| 00:04.46 | cupis | zimm: xchat-text |
| 00:04.53 | zimm | cupis: bah |
| 00:04.56 | Jenson | You better come visit dankolb if you wanna meet the handcuffs..... |
| 00:05.15 | Jenson | hehehehe |
| 00:06.11 | cupis | zimm: you got chaffed wrists from Jensons furry handcuffs? |
| 00:06.42 | zimm | cupis: how would you know they are furry ? eh ? eh ? |
| 00:06.53 | Jenson | They were reduced from £7 to £1.75 in the Discovery Store sale....I couldn't resist. |
| 00:07.08 | cupis | zimm: wouldn't you like to know :) |
| 00:07.10 | BorgBaby | which pub? |
| 00:07.21 | Clyphox | pub? who said pub? |
| 00:07.22 | dankolb | BorgBaby: Don't know the name |
| 00:07.27 | dankolb | Clyphox: I did, remember? |
| 00:07.29 | Clyphox | where? when? |
| 00:07.40 | Clyphox | hehe no was on the phone. |
| 00:07.45 | Clyphox | ..er still am.. |
| 00:07.54 | dankolb | Clyphox: Are you around London tomorrow? |
| 00:08.19 | Clyphox | Gonna be traing guys and building Novell servers all day/night tomorrow :( |
| 00:08.28 | Clyphox | Bummer |
| 00:08.39 | Clyphox | ohh and one slackware server.. |
| 00:09.25 | Clyphox | gtg bbaim.. |
| 00:09.25 | dankolb | Oooh. Novell. |
| 00:09.26 | dankolb | Nice |
| 00:09.42 | dankolb | (well, liked, haven't really used it for some time) |
| 00:09.43 | Clyphox | Just training my new boss on how to use it.. |
| 00:09.47 | Clyphox | I like itx.. |
| 00:10.00 | Clyphox|afk | er I like IPX |
| 00:10.03 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:10.55 | dankolb | Internet Pixie eXchange |
| 00:11.25 | Jenson | wb BorgBaby |
| 00:12.43 | BorgBaby | i wasn't really away - forgot to uncheck it ;) |
| 00:13.04 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:13.06 | Jenson | Well not wb then |
| 00:13.16 | BorgBaby | not really ;) |
| 00:14.11 | BorgBaby | thing midday is a bit early for me anyway |
| 00:14.20 | BorgBaby | s/thing/think |
| 00:14.26 | Jenson | you can come here instead dankolb |
| 00:14.34 | dankolb | Too far |
| 00:14.40 | dankolb | Only have an hour for lunch |
| 00:14.48 | dankolb | Unless you particularly want to come for 1 hour to London |
| 00:14.56 | Jenson | Not really |
| 00:15.02 | dankolb | Not even to see me :( |
| 00:15.03 | dankolb | ? |
| 00:15.09 | BorgBaby | nah |
| 00:15.14 | Jenson | London is fucking expensive to get to |
| 00:15.16 | dankolb | Yeah. I know. I'm not worth it |
| 00:15.31 | BorgBaby | how much does it cost you, Jenson? |
| 00:16.38 | Jenson | about £17 and then underground |
| 00:16.57 | BorgBaby | that is pricey |
| 00:17.05 | dankolb | (it is worth it if you go to london more than about 5 times) |
| 00:17.09 | dankolb | £18 |
| 00:17.11 | dankolb | Not that much |
| 00:17.14 | Jenson | I know...I was gonna go get one this weekend |
| 00:17.31 | dankolb | And you get 1/3 off (well, I get > 1/3 off for some reason) |
| 00:17.32 | Jenson | then I forgot the bridge is shut this weekend and next......so I probably won't get into town this weekend |
| 00:17.43 | dankolb | Well, wait until the next time you're at the station |
| 00:17.56 | Jenson | We get ours at the townhall |
| 00:18.04 | BorgBaby | but takes 3 times longer! |
| 00:18.07 | Jenson | They isnt anything at our station |
| 00:18.13 | dankolb | Hm |
| 00:18.27 | dankolb | Town Hall? You get train tickets there too? |
| 00:18.38 | Jenson | Nope...get tickets on the train |
| 00:18.43 | dankolb | Oh right. |
| 00:18.48 | dankolb | Odd place :) |
| 00:18.49 | Jenson | Then change them for card tickets when we change train |
| 00:18.56 | dankolb | Fair enough |
| 00:20.21 | Jenson | If you came here you'd probably wanna go into colchester if my parens could pick you up...otherwise if you miss the train you have to wait an hour for the next connection |
| 00:20.28 | Jenson | whereas colchester is about every 15 mins |
| 00:20.49 | dankolb | I thought they had rehearsal |
| 00:21.16 | Jenson | They do |
| 00:21.23 | Jenson | But not everyweeked obviously |
| 00:21.35 | Jenson | And if you missed your train I'd have to kill you |
| 00:21.44 | dankolb | With handcuffs? |
| 00:21.53 | Jenson | or we could meet in colchester....and get the bus/train back from there |
| 00:21.55 | Jenson | lol handcuffs |
| 00:22.07 | dankolb | Nah - probably easier for me not to miss the train |
| 00:22.18 | dankolb | Yours leave at :47 past from Liverpool street? |
| 00:22.24 | Jenson | AFAIK |
| 00:22.26 | Jenson | lemme check |
| 00:22.31 | dankolb | Hm |
| 00:22.49 | dankolb | Agh. |
| 00:23.05 | dankolb | I wonder what train I'd have to take in - it depends if the Circle line is working or not |
| 00:23.38 | Jenson | I should be able to find that out too |
| 00:24.57 | dankolb | Ah |
| 00:25.05 | dankolb | I like railtrack's timetables |
| 00:28.21 | dankolb | It takes too long to get to you |
| 00:28.44 | Jenson | 1hr 15 or something like that |
| 00:28.50 | Jenson | from here to liverpool st |
| 00:29.08 | dankolb | 2:37 min. total journey time |
| 00:29.20 | dankolb | (shortest journey) |
| 00:30.04 | Jenson | Fun! |
| 00:30.32 | BorgBaby | bring a good book |
| 00:30.42 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 00:30.46 | dankolb | Ooh yeah. That reminds me |
| 00:31.10 | dankolb | I have a feeling I'll be needing it a lot |
| 00:31.14 | dankolb | (tomorrow) |
| 00:31.57 | BorgBaby | fan first tho' |
| 00:32.20 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:32.34 | BorgBaby | do you ever go to the tcr fairs ? |
| 00:32.56 | Jenson | must look where they are |
| 00:33.05 | dankolb | I'm not going to pay to get in, unless I wanted to get something |
| 00:33.06 | BorgBaby | they're fun ;-) - there's one all week in queensway as well - not as good tho' |
| 00:33.24 | BorgBaby | well, $1 for 2 fairs is ok... |
| 00:33.39 | dankolb | Yeah, but not if you're just browsing |
| 00:33.50 | BorgBaby | true |
| 00:34.00 | Jenson | Hey Dan...the weekend work between Liverpool Street and Baker Street is until May. |
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| 00:34.12 | Jenson | heya formi |
| 00:34.19 | dankolb | Jenson: Every weekend? |
| 00:34.28 | formi | hello |
| 00:34.28 | Jenson | Yeah AFAIK |
| 00:34.35 | dankolb | grrrr |
| 00:34.37 | dankolb | hi formi |
| 00:34.41 | Jenson | Hang on thats wrong |
| 00:34.43 | Jenson | thats weekdays lol |
| 00:34.47 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:34.48 | formi | ibot: seen leeds? |
| 00:34.52 | | leeds <~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 3d 39m 56s ago, saying: 'time for me to sleep... g'night all'. |
| 00:35.04 | Jenson | Here is weekend |
| 00:35.06 | Jenson | Metropolitan, Circle, Hammersmith and City lines |
| 00:35.07 | Jenson | Until summer 2003 (but normal service will run some weekends; check your local station sign boards). No services at all between Baker Street station and Farringdon station. A limited bus replacement service is provided, but you are advised to use alternative Tube routes. This is to allow major re-development of King's Cross St Pancras station. |
| 00:35.15 | formi | he might me sleeping to much |
| 00:35.24 | Jenson | lol for 3 days |
| 00:35.26 | dankolb | Grrr |
| 00:35.41 | dankolb | That's really annoying |
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| 00:36.48 | Jenson | wb cupis |
| 00:36.58 | cupis | Jenson: ty |
| 00:38.59 | Jenson | Ah well, time for bed |
| 00:39.05 | Jenson | See you guys tomorrow |
| 00:39.21 | skugg | night. |
| 00:39.23 | skugg | :) |
| 00:39.30 | cupis | night Jenson |
| 00:39.32 | Jenson | Hey skugg, night skugg! |
| 00:39.34 | Jenson | night cupis |
| 00:39.43 | skugg | hey nightowls! |
| 00:40.39 | Jenson | night formi |
| 00:40.47 | formi | good rest of the night |
| 00:40.49 | dankolb | night formi |
| 00:40.56 | dankolb | night Jenson |
| 00:40.56 | BorgBaby | night formi |
| 00:41.15 | dankolb | skugg: You around tomorrow lunchtime? |
| 00:41.24 | zimm | laters >whoever is going |
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| 00:41.55 | skugg | dankolb, around where? |
| 00:42.01 | skugg | dankolb, you ordering tickets? |
| 00:42.02 | skugg | :) |
| 00:42.08 | dankolb | Tickets? For what? |
| 00:42.13 | skugg | fosdem :) |
| 00:42.35 | dankolb | Ah. I haven't ordered yet |
| 00:43.55 | dankolb | There's a pub about 1 min. walk from Globix (~3min. from the tube) where it might be nice to have lunch at |
| 00:44.08 | Huhn | re |
| 00:44.11 | dankolb | hi Huhn |
| 00:44.34 | Huhn | hiho |
| 00:45.04 | skugg | dankolb, what you doing there? |
| 00:45.17 | dankolb | Rebuilding (software-wise) a server |
| 00:45.25 | skugg | i see |
| 00:45.54 | skugg | what tube is that? |
| 00:46.06 | Huhn | mh, reading the backlog: do we have to order tickets for the Fosdem? |
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| 00:46.37 | dankolb | Northern Line |
| 00:46.43 | dankolb | Hi Davilion |
| 00:46.43 | skugg | Huhn, yeah. rooms and train :) |
| 00:46.51 | skugg | Davilion, hepp. |
| 00:46.52 | Huhn | skugg: ok ;)) phew |
| 00:46.52 | Davilion | hi all |
| 00:47.05 | skugg | Huhn, i don't know about anything else... |
| 00:47.05 | Huhn | skugg: nevermind, I'm dead after the training tonight ;) |
| 00:47.11 | Davilion | nodnol? |
| 00:47.15 | Davilion | no not likely |
| 00:47.16 | dankolb | london |
| 00:47.24 | Davilion | whats happening? |
| 00:47.30 | Davilion | im snowboarding tommorow hoepfully |
| 00:47.39 | skugg | snowboarding... |
| 00:47.41 | skugg | hm. |
| 00:47.43 | dankolb | I'm there, and wondering who might like to grab some lunch |
| 00:47.52 | Huhn | where are you snowboarding? |
| 00:48.34 | skugg | dankolb, might be interested. |
| 00:48.42 | Davilion | dankolb: if i wasnt in scotland i would definatly take you up on that |
| 00:48.45 | skugg | lemme just find out where it is... |
| 00:48.53 | dankolb | Davilion: Heh okay :) |
| 00:48.58 | dankolb | You're excused :-P |
| 00:49.07 | Davilion | dankolb: are you in london often? |
| 00:49.22 | dankolb | Far too often, it seems |
| 00:49.35 | dankolb | This'll be my 3rd time since Saturday (including Sat.) |
| 00:49.54 | skugg | dan, will see how well i am tomorrow -- how much work i get done etc. |
| 00:49.59 | dankolb | Fair enough |
| 00:50.00 | skugg | when you planning lunch? :) |
| 00:50.14 | dankolb | Dunno - probably around 12.30ish |
| 00:50.19 | Davilion | skugg: how was the exam? |
| 00:50.29 | skugg | dav, it went okay. i'm happy :) |
| 00:50.35 | Davilion | good |
| 00:50.36 | dankolb | Good :) |
| 00:51.27 | skugg | dan, oh... doubt i'm able to get up by then... been really stressed out this week and look forward to be able to turn alarm off... takes me at least an hour to get to old street as well. |
| 00:51.48 | skugg | if you're up for dinner afterwards, then we're talking :) |
| 00:51.51 | dankolb | Ahh....okay. Don't worry about it |
| 00:52.12 | dankolb | Hm. I would be, but it's my friend's birthday, so I said I'd go to a Chinese Buffet with him in Wycombe |
| 00:52.29 | Davilion | dankolb: where do you live? |
| 00:52.30 | skugg | sorry, but i won't lie -- it's too god damn early :P |
| 00:52.38 | Davilion | heh |
| 00:52.39 | dankolb | Beaconsfield |
| 00:52.46 | dankolb | (half-way between London and Oxford) |
| 00:52.47 | Davilion | ahh quite a bit out of london then. |
| 00:52.50 | skugg | chinese... mmm... |
| 00:52.51 | Davilion | yeah i pass it quite a lot |
| 00:52.53 | dankolb | 30 mins. by train |
| 00:52.56 | Davilion | up a big hill iirc |
| 00:53.03 | dankolb | Err....not really, no |
| 00:53.17 | dankolb | Although that might depend where you're coming from |
| 00:53.26 | Davilion | hmm, perhaps not, but theres a very big hill on the m40 before the junction |
| 00:53.34 | Clyphox | Good night guys..*(&grls) |
| 00:53.36 | dankolb | Well, there's some hill |
| 00:53.42 | dankolb | 'night Clyphox |
| 00:53.51 | Huhn | nn, Clyphox |
| 00:54.30 | Clyphox | bye.. |
| 00:54.46 | dankolb | Ah well. Looks like I'll just get lunch on my own, then |
| 00:55.57 | skugg | sorry mate. |
| 00:56.08 | dankolb | Don't worry about it :) |
| 00:56.27 | dankolb | I'm not too bothered |
| 00:56.39 | dankolb | But I should sleep |
| 00:56.43 | dankolb | 'night all |
| 00:56.54 | skugg | night... |
| 01:53.59 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
| 01:56.12 | Davilion | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.12 | Davilion | n |
| 01:56.23 | skugg | i see. |
| 01:56.29 | skugg | well, i'm off to bed. |
| 01:56.36 | skugg | nigth peeps. |
| 01:56.56 | skugg | s,th,ht, |
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| 08:40.09 | *** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [next meeting - InstallFest 1-Mar-2003] |
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| 08:40.54 | zachary | good morning |
| 08:43.12 | eye69 | Morning |
| 09:08.01 | highbury | morning |
| 09:15.28 | zachary | I think we have filled our quota of sunny days for the year already. |
| 10:09.00 | Tarragon | About midnight cars had ice on them - 6am no ice so I guess it is getting warmer but it still feels very cold |
| 10:19.34 | highbury | Ice had just abouty melted to slush by 10am, but mostly melted because of the sun. you could still see your breath inNorth London |
| 10:20.30 | Davilion | morning all |
| 10:21.50 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 10:22.09 | zachary | Morning Davilion |
| 10:22.16 | Davilion | hows it going? |
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| 10:30.21 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 10:31.43 | Tarragon | Just working my way through the mandrake Cooker list which has generated 3000 messages since the new 9.1Beta was released. That means it is either wonderful or awful |
| 10:33.30 | zachary | Tarragon: I'm testing Mandrake 9.1 Beta 2. Somethings good, somethings are slow. |
| 10:36.49 | Tarragon | Is that the two disc set? |
| 10:37.05 | highbury | can anybody tell me whether Knoppix has gkrellm installed? I'm certain it used to be, but now seems to have been dropped |
| 10:37.33 | Tarragon | Not in my 101 uses for Knoppix :-P |
| 10:49.32 | highbury | gotta go offline for a short while, back soon |
| 10:56.48 | zachary | Tarragon: mdk 9.1b2 is currently 2 discs |
| 10:57.54 | Tarragon | Got that one. Still running 9.0rc3 :-) |
| 11:00.04 | zachary | at least they are going back to 650MB isos. |
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| 11:33.45 | dank_work | Hi all |
| 11:34.32 | Tarragon | Hi Dan |
| 11:36.56 | Davilion | hows your day going dank_work? |
| 11:37.09 | dank_work | It's just started |
| 11:37.20 | dank_work | I backed up 3 files, and now I'm just booting the Win2000 CD |
| 11:40.30 | Davilion | dank_work: its an interesting concept isnt it:) |
| 11:41.31 | dank_work | It is. Especially when you switch screens and it takes a second to refresh |
| 11:41.49 | Davilion | heh yeah |
| 11:42.07 | Davilion | the one which cracked me up was when i resized my terminal and it took forever to redraw |
| 11:42.22 | Davilion | just remember not to do anything like cat bigfile |
| 11:43.11 | dank_work | Hehehe :) I will |
| 11:49.54 | dank_work | Whee! 1st restart |
| 11:53.20 | Davilion | heh |
| 11:54.12 | dank_work | And plugged console into our main production server for Collaboration, and rebooted that |
| 11:54.15 | dank_work | Apparently it went titsup |
| 11:54.43 | dank_work | Hm. It's only a dual-933 machine, not a dual-1Ghz |
| 12:02.00 | dank_work | fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck |
| 12:04.22 | dank_work | "Can you reboot $PRODUCT server" |
| 12:04.32 | dank_work | (the services went titsup) |
| 12:04.39 | dank_work | *$PRODUCTION |
| 12:04.48 | dank_work | Sure. Rebooted it. |
| 12:04.58 | dank_work | And the service still was titsup |
| 12:06.45 | dank_work | Morning Huhn |
| 12:07.06 | Huhn | hiho ;) |
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| 12:10.08 | Huhn | what's up, dank_work? |
| 12:10.49 | dank_work | See my comments above about the production system |
| 12:11.02 | dank_work | It's our only Collaboration frontend, and it just went titsup |
| 12:11.48 | dank_work | And I'm here to rebuild (software-wise) another Collaboration server |
| 12:11.57 | dank_work | (I don't really want to be here) |
| 12:11.58 | skugg | oops. |
| 12:12.26 | dank_work | Oops indeed. The customers will be getting their tits out about this |
| 12:12.30 | dank_work | Thanks huhn :) |
| 12:13.31 | dank_work | Hm. I could dig out my MP3 player from my jacket |
| 12:14.09 | Huhn | what kind of music would you like? |
| 12:14.28 | dank_work | My MP3 player has Queen on nit |
| 12:14.31 | dank_work | *it |
| 12:14.35 | Huhn | mh, that's nice |
| 12:14.47 | dank_work | DCC wouldn't help anyway, because this server I'm IRCing from is in the US |
| 12:14.59 | dank_work | So I have an SSH session running from one of the machine here |
| 12:15.08 | dank_work | And I'm connected to the machine via a 9600baud serial cable |
| 12:17.13 | dank_work | Brr. It's cold here |
| 12:18.23 | Huhn | here as in .uk? |
| 12:19.10 | dank_work | Here as in Globix's data centre |
| 12:20.18 | Huhn | <- kitchen: coffee and newspaper |
| 12:21.24 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:03.31 | Huhn | re |
| 13:07.45 | dank_work | wb |
| 13:08.54 | Huhn | oh dear |
| 13:09.26 | dank_work | Indeed. And I was supposed to go to a friend's birthday dinner tonight |
| 13:10.43 | dank_work | I can't be bothered to sit here waiting for stuff to download from Windows Update |
| 13:10.46 | dank_work | I'm off to get food |
| 13:10.50 | dank_work | Back a bit later |
| 13:10.59 | Huhn | good luck |
| 13:18.11 | murble | has anyone here got a tin of green paint, a digital camera, and known of the location of an old letter box? |
| 13:54.05 | Tarragon | Why?? |
| 13:54.57 | Huhn | :) need a pic for my article about mail.. ;) |
| 14:01.07 | murble | Huhn: electronic mail? and aren't hte irish post office, and for that matter most national postal services on strike lots of the time? |
| 14:02.02 | Huhn | murble: wah ;) I just want that pic, ok? ;) |
| 14:23.21 | dank_work | Right. So, that should be Windows finally installed |
| 14:24.16 | Tarragon | Huhn: http://www.usagreencardvisa.com/images/pic.postbox.jpg |
| 14:25.24 | Huhn | Tarragon: thanks, found that, but the resolution is not good enough, one of the Irish linux ppl takes a pic for me tomorrow ;) |
| 14:29.42 | murble | the company upstairs from us are comstock images, who run a photolibrary, i wonder if they have anything in their royality free section. |
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| 14:31.26 | Clyphox | Hi |
| 14:31.38 | Clyphox | Eek! synched in 8.255s! !? |
| 14:31.53 | Clyphox | Anyone here? |
| 14:31.56 | dank_work | hi |
| 14:32.01 | Clyphox | Hiya |
| 14:32.10 | Clyphox | Can I ask a question.. |
| 14:32.30 | Clyphox | Know any reliable domain hosts.. I am sick of uk2 mail problems and desperate.. |
| 14:32.42 | Clyphox | Get at least 3 customers call me a week now.. |
| 14:32.44 | dank_work | What do you need hosting? |
| 14:32.57 | Clyphox | Just the domain name and email forwarding.. |
| 14:32.59 | dank_work | just a domain? Or actual proper colo? |
| 14:33.04 | dank_work | Meh. I can do that |
| 14:33.08 | Clyphox | Just domain.. |
| 14:33.20 | Clyphox | reliably? |
| 14:33.25 | dank_work | So just hosting DNS, yeah? |
| 14:33.40 | dank_work | Well, it had 243ish days uptime before it suddenly got rebooted |
| 14:33.43 | Clyphox | Because we have customers who are quite happy to pay for it.. |
| 14:34.13 | Clyphox | Are you a company or have you got a colo? |
| 14:34.28 | dank_work | It's the server I IRC from |
| 14:34.32 | dank_work | (currently) |
| 14:34.38 | Clyphox | colo? |
| 14:34.47 | dank_work | It's got my domains on it, as well as my friend's domains |
| 14:34.55 | dank_work | No - rented *spit* |
| 14:35.34 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 14:35.48 | Clyphox | in Docklands? |
| 14:36.02 | dank_work | In the US |
| 14:36.17 | Clyphox | Well what is needed to move a domain over firstly? |
| 14:36.26 | Clyphox | I've never needed to befor.. |
| 14:36.43 | dank_work | Firstly the place you're moving to needs to have their zone file setup to be the master |
| 14:36.44 | Clyphox | eek : Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a |
| 14:36.49 | dank_work | What? |
| 14:36.50 | Clyphox | mod_gzip is kewl though :-) |
| 14:37.06 | dank_work | Why eek? |
| 14:37.12 | Clyphox | red-hat.. |
| 14:37.19 | Clyphox | I'm just not a big fan.. |
| 14:37.23 | dank_work | Neither am I |
| 14:37.25 | Clyphox | I trust you though.. |
| 14:37.34 | dank_work | But that's what they give, so that's what I have to work with |
| 14:37.41 | Clyphox | Hehe |
| 14:37.42 | dank_work | I've installed apt for RPM, so it's not too painful |
| 14:37.44 | Clyphox | I know.. I know.. |
| 14:37.51 | dank_work | Me? Trustworthy? Muahahaha :) |
| 14:37.51 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 14:38.44 | Clyphox | Ok what will it cost for starters if I move my domain over (starkfamily.net) to you and then after say two weeks or so I can start recommending you to customers.. |
| 14:39.01 | Clyphox | You can charge too. We'll pass it on to our customers... |
| 14:39.25 | dank_work | dunno - I'd have to talk to my friend about that. If it's just your personal domain, I'll happily do it for you |
| 14:39.36 | dank_work | (seeing as he owns the server) |
| 14:39.50 | Clyphox | [nod] |
| 14:40.07 | Clyphox | The thing is I suspect my boss will only want to deal with a company. |
| 14:40.33 | dank_work | Well, I think my friend does pass himself off as a company. |
| 14:40.33 | Clyphox | Its just that he's a long term guy and thingking 5 years ahead you see.. |
| 14:40.50 | dank_work | Ahh. No-one can plan 5 years ahead, really |
| 14:41.00 | Clyphox | hehe.. he tried.. |
| 14:41.06 | dank_work | :-) |
| 14:41.16 | Clyphox | Well want my number? |
| 14:41.19 | dank_work | Basically, I don't see this server disappearing (unless it changes) |
| 14:41.29 | dank_work | IRC is good enough :) |
| 14:41.33 | Clyphox | hehe.. |
| 14:42.26 | Clyphox | I'm useing my Home server atm.. |
| 14:42.50 | Clyphox | I've never hosted DNS.. what does it entail to move etc..? |
| 14:42.55 | dank_work | For your own, or the company? |
| 14:42.59 | Clyphox | SMy own.. |
| 14:43.01 | Clyphox | er My.. |
| 14:43.42 | dank_work | Basically, get the zone file set up on the new machine, and then update your whois record to say that the new server is your master DNS |
| 14:44.38 | Clyphox | And thats all! wow.. I never realised it was that easy.. I would never have paid before had I known.. |
| 14:44.47 | dank_work | And give it up to a week for everything to propagate |
| 14:45.06 | Clyphox | And to move it off uk2 what do I need? won't they try to overide you? |
| 14:45.18 | dank_work | Who did you register your domain with? |
| 14:45.25 | Clyphox | uk2 |
| 14:45.29 | Clyphox | aka joker.com |
| 14:45.42 | dank_work | I thought that you said that you're hosting the DNS on your own machine? |
| 14:46.04 | Clyphox | No just services.. and a dns proxy.. |
| 14:46.12 | dank_work | ahh |
| 14:46.23 | Clyphox | sry |
| 14:46.35 | dank_work | Well, see if they have a way of changing DNS servers from a web admin tool, if they provide one |
| 14:47.19 | Clyphox | They do.. costs a bit though.. |
| 14:48.11 | dank_work | Ah. Well, then you'll need to pay them to move the DNS over to a different machine |
| 14:48.16 | Clyphox | I have dns control on mine but I will need to register it for customers who want to move off uk2 |
| 14:48.29 | Clyphox | heh |
| 14:48.45 | dank_work | So you can move your own domain without paying UK2 for the privilege? |
| 14:48.46 | Clyphox | Some are desperate so they will pay happily. |
| 14:48.57 | Clyphox | I already have paid thats all |
| 14:49.27 | Clyphox | I was gonna use my home machine for MX but never quite got exim perfect.. reinstalling it soon too.. |
| 14:49.34 | dank_work | heh. So you just need to say that a different machine is the primary nameserver, and be donne with it? |
| 14:49.37 | dank_work | Heh. |
| 14:50.22 | Clyphox | I tried it long ago when I knew even less about mail. exim is easier to understand for me. |
| 14:50.30 | dank_work | I've never tried exim |
| 14:50.53 | Clyphox | It was quite amazingly easy compared to when I tried qmail before.. |
| 14:51.03 | Clyphox | Anyway.. |
| 14:51.16 | dank_work | Exim seems to be the preferred mailserver for Debianites |
| 14:51.34 | dank_work | i.e. Debian+Exim or you're not a true Linux person |
| 14:51.47 | Clyphox | I like it. Don't think it could possibly be more efficiant than qmail though hehe |
| 14:52.56 | Clyphox | So can you/your friend do the mail hosting too? (for it forwards all mail to a another email or even localy?) |
| 14:53.13 | Clyphox | er "(for it" = "(so it" |
| 14:53.53 | Clyphox | Alot of ppl don't like the author of qmail because he's a bit of a rebel and sticks to his guns. |
| 14:54.04 | dank_work | Heh :) |
| 14:54.09 | Clyphox | I respect diversity |
| 14:54.09 | dank_work | Yeah, I can do that |
| 14:54.33 | dank_work | However, all mail gets pushed through ClamAV and Spamassassin |
| 14:54.36 | dank_work | Any virus mail will automatically get stopped |
| 14:55.10 | dank_work | (unfortunately, sometimes some Gllug email get caught because of a 'mime header buffer overflow') |
| 14:55.13 | Clyphox | Thats a plus |
| 14:55.34 | Clyphox | hmm that happens with me because of sendmail sometimes too |
| 14:56.16 | dank_work | Yeah, but the messages are fine - it just seems the Spamassassin on wherever-the-gllug-list-is-hosted adds its reports in where it shouldn't |
| 14:56.29 | dank_work | (but then I manually forward those mails to the appropriate people if that happens) |
| 14:56.37 | Clyphox | kewl.. |
| 14:57.15 | dank_work | And Spamassassin will just add a header (X-Spam: Yes) if it's flagged it as spam |
| 14:57.35 | Clyphox | kewl |
| 14:57.44 | Clyphox | I could use that! |
| 14:58.18 | Clyphox | How long do you need? |
| 14:59.00 | Clyphox | I'm going to be busy tonight traing guys at work about slackware/samba/sendmail/webmin/novell till late but I might be on irc.. |
| 14:59.12 | dank_work | :) I don't know when I'll be on tonight |
| 14:59.35 | dank_work | I'm supposed to be going to a friend's birthday dinner (Chinese buffet) |
| 14:59.46 | dank_work | But I might well end up having to stay here :( |
| 15:00.04 | Clyphox | Cool.. a grab-all-you-can-while-you-can |
| 15:00.51 | dank_work | Yup |
| 15:01.14 | Clyphox | I'm at work still but this counts as work because we need to do something about our customers email and I trust ppl here more than websites |
| 15:01.17 | dank_work | I can set you up the DNS in about 5 minutes, if you give me a list of IP addresses and names you want |
| 15:01.23 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:01.34 | dank_work | Mail will take another 5 mins |
| 15:01.44 | dank_work | Would be less if I wasn't on a 9600 connection |
| 15:01.55 | Clyphox | Well what I do now is point everything for my domain to duck.bsd.st (dynamic dns) |
| 15:02.11 | dank_work | Yeah - I can do that |
| 15:02.16 | Clyphox | seems to work surprisingly :) |
| 15:02.57 | dank_work | Yeah, why shouldn't it? |
| 15:03.52 | dank_work | Just set up a CNAME that foo.bar.com is CNAMEd to duck.bsd.st |
| 15:03.55 | Clyphox | Before I tried I thought that at that level you HAD to point to an IP |
| 15:04.10 | dank_work | With an A record I think you do |
| 15:04.15 | dank_work | But not a CNAME |
| 15:04.46 | Clyphox | yup. my A atm is 80.193.238.178 |
| 15:04.55 | dank_work | *nod* |
| 15:05.06 | Clyphox | and just cname's for www,ftp,mail to starkfamily.net |
| 15:05.16 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 15:06.40 | Clyphox | do I get to get and login too!? hehe |
| 15:07.19 | dank_work | If you want shell access, I guess, yeah |
| 15:08.09 | Clyphox | I think maybe if I didn't get it would be simpler.. its easy to add if I need it later anyway :-) |
| 15:08.55 | dank_work | Actually, it's easier to add the account with shell access, if you want to have mail stored on the server |
| 15:09.31 | dank_work | Actually, I'd create a user anyway for email mappings |
| 15:10.41 | Clyphox | Yup.. I meant just setting my shell to /bin/false |
| 15:10.52 | dank_work | Easily done |
| 15:11.31 | Clyphox | So if its ever hacked I can say "it wasn't me" hehe.. (j/k anyway.. simpler is better after all) |
| 15:11.49 | Clyphox | What should I set my namserver/s to now? |
| 15:13.48 | dank_work | You want me to set it up for you, then? |
| 15:14.11 | Clyphox | Please :-) |
| 15:14.51 | dank_work | 64.246.28.105 |
| 15:14.52 | dank_work | Domain name? |
| 15:14.56 | Clyphox | Good news for us.. uk2 doesn't charge to modify our nameservers.. just for us to modify A and CNAME stuff |
| 15:15.01 | Clyphox | starkfamily.net |
| 15:15.34 | dank_work | cool |
| 15:15.52 | Clyphox | .co.uk and .com are not my cuppa tea :) |
| 15:16.39 | Clyphox | It sais : WARNING - Do not enter IP-numbers |
| 15:16.39 | Clyphox | WRONG EXAMPLE - 212.4.208.101 |
| 15:16.40 | Clyphox | CORRECT EXAMPLE - ns.nameserver.com |
| 15:16.41 | Clyphox | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.47 | Clyphox | do I need to worry about that? |
| 15:17.00 | dank_work | Yeah. Nameserver ns0.eco.li |
| 15:17.27 | Clyphox | Lol.. I remember now.. that is a excellent domain! heeh |
| 15:17.44 | dank_work | Hehe :) |
| 15:18.58 | Clyphox | I take it I only really need my primary and don't need to worry about my secondary.. |
| 15:19.09 | dank_work | Yeah - I don't have a secondary |
| 15:19.14 | Clyphox | yup |
| 15:19.29 | Clyphox | ok I'm applying it.. |
| 15:19.29 | dank_work | Okay - what A records and/or CNAMEs do you want? |
| 15:19.40 | Clyphox | er one moment.. |
| 15:19.45 | dank_work | Okay - it'll get updated when the whois gets updated |
| 15:20.05 | Clyphox | A duck.bsd.st |
| 15:20.26 | dank_work | That'd be a CNAME |
| 15:20.33 | Clyphox | woops.. sry |
| 15:20.35 | dank_work | But anyway, what do you want pointed to that? |
| 15:20.39 | dank_work | www? ftp? |
| 15:20.45 | dank_work | Anything else? |
| 15:21.47 | Clyphox | mail |
| 15:22.00 | Clyphox | and maybe rsync but that can wait.. |
| 15:22.06 | dank_work | mail handled by your machine, yeah? |
| 15:22.07 | Clyphox | thanks |
| 15:22.10 | dank_work | It's no trouble adding it |
| 15:22.48 | Clyphox | no can you forward mail to dstark@uk2.net or even better host it ? |
| 15:23.05 | dank_work | Sure |
| 15:23.47 | dank_work | So then mail.starkfamily.net will point to my machine |
| 15:23.56 | Clyphox | It said ns0.eco.li is not part of CORE and that it was going to try to create it.. any idea? |
| 15:24.05 | Clyphox | thanks |
| 15:24.27 | dank_work | Dunno. Maybe it's not registered as an official nameserver with them, and they'll have to create it |
| 15:24.48 | Clyphox | proberbly.. |
| 15:25.19 | Clyphox | Once all this is done we can talk about webhosting for some ppl I do bits of silly webdesign for.. |
| 15:25.49 | Clyphox | I don't want to put stuff on uk2 AND pay their rates hehe.. |
| 15:26.00 | Clyphox | bbiam.. my boss.. |
| 15:26.17 | dank_work | k |
| 15:27.02 | Clyphox | back |
| 15:27.54 | eye69 | Anybody have a tip on how to handle bounces when sending out bulk email, like to detect invalid emails and such. |
| 15:27.58 | Clyphox | uk2 is weird.. they go on about how they only use windoze for one webcam and love linux buy they use Frontpage for all the pages and ignored me after I converted all the gif's to png's and offered them to them.. |
| 15:28.10 | eye69 | (It's nowhere near UCE) |
| 15:28.27 | Clyphox | Doesn't sendmail check the outgoing domains? |
| 15:28.30 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:29.02 | eye69 | It's not sendmail, and you'd want to handle bounces, ie. mails bouncing because the recipient no longer exists. |
| 15:29.28 | dank_work | Clyphox: DNS is set up |
| 15:29.45 | Clyphox | dank_work: kewl.. so is mine :-) |
| 15:29.51 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:30.01 | dank_work | Are you going to want shell access at all? |
| 15:30.02 | Clyphox | dank_work: how do I check my mail now.. |
| 15:30.11 | dank_work | You don't, because mail isn't set up yet |
| 15:30.12 | Clyphox | dank_work: hmm.. ok why not.. |
| 15:30.34 | dank_work | Including hosting website or not? |
| 15:30.42 | Clyphox | dank_work: do you forward it manually? |
| 15:30.55 | dank_work | Forward what manually? |
| 15:31.08 | Clyphox | mail.. sorry i'm confused now.. |
| 15:31.24 | dank_work | I need to set up qmail to accept mail for starkfamily.net |
| 15:32.14 | Clyphox | You can possibly just make an alias that sends it strait out I think.. |
| 15:32.27 | dank_work | The domain gets mapped to a user, and then you use .qmail files to control where the emails go |
| 15:32.46 | Clyphox | [nod] |
| 15:33.02 | dank_work | Are you going to want to host a website or not? |
| 15:33.20 | dank_work | (on this 'ere machine, that is) |
| 15:33.21 | Clyphox | Hosting is currently done on my homepc. (duck.bsd.st) |
| 15:34.00 | dank_work | Okay |
| 15:34.04 | Clyphox | dank_work: can edit my homepage from any box on my lan using nfs so I'm quite happy as it is thanks. |
| 15:34.28 | Clyphox | Plus I recomile apache and family the whole time.. (at least I am planning to) |
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| 15:36.17 | dank_work | hi formi and highbury |
| 15:36.19 | formi | hiya |
| 15:36.28 | Huhn | hi formi, hi highbury |
| 15:36.41 | formi | ibot: seen Leeds? |
| 15:36.46 | | leeds <~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 3d 15h 41m 50s ago, saying: 'time for me to sleep... g'night all'. |
| 15:38.01 | Clyphox | hi formi , highbury |
| 15:38.23 | highbury | hi guys |
| 15:38.33 | formi | hi Clyphox |
| 15:39.43 | formi | highbury: that's a lot of sulking, will you be able to cope? |
| 15:40.33 | dank_work | brb |
| 15:40.38 | highbury | downloading Mandrake 9.1 beta2 at 115KB/Sec |
| 15:41.00 | Clyphox | downloading Ice age divx (nice quality for a change) |
| 15:41.07 | highbury | btw latest Knoppix CD is 2003-01-20 now |
| 15:41.34 | SpudULike | OK, I need help again configuring this network laser printer. I lost my original, working configuration when I did a reinstall, which I did just for fun. Here is my printcap file, should this work? |
| 15:41.38 | SpudULike | printer1:\ |
| 15:41.38 | SpudULike | # |
| 15:41.38 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.38 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.38 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.40 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.42 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.44 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.47 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.03 | stephen | highbury: what was that knoppix mirror you recommended again? |
| 15:42.13 | zachary | highbury: I wouldn't waste your time with mdk 9.1b2. Not that much differance over 9.0. |
| 15:42.15 | highbury | LOL, that's unintelligable! |
| 15:42.36 | formi | well SpudULike, why don't you keep having fun? and work it out by yourself, |
| 15:42.44 | highbury | SpudULike: anything with colons in it get turned into smileys here :-) |
| 15:43.03 | formi | as my father says, he who for pleasure dies, even death enjoys. |
| 15:43.05 | SpudULike | highbury: Oh, bugger. |
| 15:43.21 | highbury | SpudULike aren't you using SuSE? You shouldn't need to hand edit it |
| 15:43.23 | SpudULike | formi: Your father has a lot to answer for. |
| 15:43.43 | SpudULike | Yast won't install it. |
| 15:44.31 | Clyphox | He's ALIVE!!!! |
| 15:44.38 | SpudULike | Can I just call an address from 'lp=' ? |
| 15:44.41 | Clyphox | Is your BackSide sore !?! |
| 15:44.45 | Clyphox | It should be! |
| 15:44.50 | Tarragon | ResuDaed Any where have you been young man? |
| 15:45.07 | Tarragon | s/sny/And |
| 15:45.43 | Clyphox | SpudULike: this is a typical lpr type spool and it works for me lexmark|optra|Lexmark Optra:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lexmark:sh:rm=192.168.0.20:ff:rp=optrat612:ff=: |
| 15:45.56 | ResuDaed | afternoon all anyway |
| 15:46.12 | Clyphox | Hey :) |
| 15:46.15 | SpudULike | rm? Hm, ok. |
| 15:46.22 | Clyphox | We were really worried about you man.. |
| 15:46.46 | ResuDaed | no need to worry ... if i was going to be gone for a long time i wouldn't have left myself signed in to IRC |
| 15:46.56 | Clyphox | SpudULike: thats the name of the printer on the remote spool |
| 15:47.32 | Clyphox | ResuDaed: I was gonna go round your place and root your PC and check if and where from you might have logged into it.. hehe |
| 15:47.32 | ResuDaed | Clyphox: I'm sorry for the worry I caused people - I just needed to get away for a couple of days |
| 15:47.50 | ResuDaed | lol |
| 15:47.55 | Clyphox | ResuDaed: Glad it didn't come to that. I would understand you killing me for such a crime. |
| 15:49.33 | ResuDaed | all you would have had to do was press alt+F5 :) |
| 15:49.45 | Clyphox | SpudULike : if all else fails and you stop having fun install webmin and note how you stop learning.. |
| 15:50.04 | ResuDaed | I left it logged in as root while I was gone (I work for government security:) |
| 15:50.08 | Clyphox | ResuDaed: I would have cycled them anyway :) |
| 15:50.18 | ResuDaed | s/I Work/I should work |
| 15:50.35 | Clyphox | How did that ram work btw? |
| 15:50.47 | ResuDaed | I didn't get around to trying it yet |
| 15:50.48 | ResuDaed | :) |
| 15:50.58 | ResuDaed | sitting on my desk - still wrapped |
| 15:51.17 | Clyphox | I'm trying to get more ram into my system so I can run Urban Terror off it. |
| 15:51.29 | formi | ResuDaed: did you get the 486 running? |
| 15:51.38 | SpudULike | Clyphox: Well, it only goes to show what reliance on graphical tools does for you. |
| 15:51.43 | Clyphox | Got bloody 1.5 Gig of .pk3' though.. |
| 15:51.52 | ResuDaed | formi: majority running - getting timeouts when trying to access the nIC(s) |
| 15:52.08 | Clyphox | SpudULike: Yup.. I like it for the sake of other ppl at work with me.. |
| 15:52.11 | SpudULike | Should we have #gllug games nights? |
| 15:52.12 | dank_work | hi ResuDaed |
| 15:52.19 | Clyphox | Yes.. hehe |
| 15:52.19 | ResuDaed | afternoon dank_work |
| 15:52.37 | ResuDaed | SpudULike: could be interesting |
| 15:53.04 | Clyphox | SpudULike: do you play Urban Terror too? |
| 15:53.04 | SpudULike | What network game could we play that isn't too graphical? FreeCiv? |
| 15:53.06 | formi | ResuDaed: are the nics pci? |
| 15:53.10 | Clyphox | Quake |
| 15:53.27 | Clyphox | and maybe lsdoom |
| 15:53.40 | SpudULike | I was thinking we could 'work our way up' to 3d games. |
| 15:53.47 | Clyphox | hehe.. |
| 15:54.16 | SpudULike | ... and get there just when they are going out of fashion! |
| 15:54.31 | Clyphox | It would be fun playing that space Sim and fligh-gear.. |
| 15:54.40 | SpudULike | Err, or has that happened, I'm so out of touch these days! |
| 15:54.58 | Clyphox | hehe.. I still play doom |
| 15:55.07 | Clyphox | And lotsa nes roms.. |
| 15:55.15 | ResuDaed | formi: they're ISA |
| 15:55.21 | Clyphox | Wish I had older games in fact. |
| 15:55.44 | Clyphox | if its for sale I am buying (btw) |
| 15:57.46 | dank_work | Clyphox: Do you want me to send you a test email to make sure your email is working? |
| 15:57.49 | Clyphox | Anyone know where I can buy a half-good (promise/hpt366-70) online or in london? |
| 15:58.25 | Clyphox | (ide controller) |
| 16:00.15 | stephen | dunno if they've got that one specifically, but you may want to have a look at dabs.com |
| 16:02.41 | Clyphox | k |
| 16:03.22 | stephen | damn my downloads are going down - stupid sysadmins downloading pr0n or something |
| 16:03.30 | stephen | slow* |
| 16:08.42 | ResuDaed | laters all - pool match to play |
| 17:34.24 | zachary | bbl |
| 17:38.07 | HuhnHAIE | <- ice hockey game, bye |
| 17:48.19 | formi | http://80.25.35.36/view/view.shtml |
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| 18:20.48 | zachary | good evening |
| 18:21.01 | formi | evening zachary |
| 18:21.37 | zachary | formi: how are you tonight? |
| 18:21.48 | formi | a bit sleepy |
| 18:22.15 | formi | playing with the laptop all day makes me want to sleep |
| 18:22.18 | zachary | I know how you feel. My daughter wore me out today. |
| 18:23.45 | formi | at least nobody can blame you |
| 18:25.10 | zachary | I'm trying to stay awake by stuffing brownies with espresso beans. |
| 18:25.36 | zachary | just not working, taste good though. |
| 18:26.16 | formi | wouldn't be better to try to sleep |
| 18:26.50 | zachary | I tried, too awake now. |
| 18:27.47 | formi | go and read the newest XP EULA, should work |
| 18:28.21 | zachary | I'm just trying to get a nap, not a comma. :) |
| 18:29.29 | formi | well I didn't say you had to read all of it |
| 18:29.45 | zachary | lol |
| 18:31.40 | formi | http://80.25.35.36/view/view.shtml |
| 18:31.56 | formi | media cos, and webcams |
| 18:34.12 | formi | what's odd is that webcam is static |
| 18:45.05 | formi | Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:26:22 -0800 |
| 18:45.06 | formi | From: Bill Gates <BillGates@chairman.microsoft.com> |
| 18:45.06 | formi | Reply-To: Bill Gates <3_43364_13119C6B-4F77-D311-BD44-00805FB7B54F_UK@chairman.microsoft.com> |
| 18:45.16 | formi | Subject: Security in a Connected World |
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| 19:58.45 | resudaed | all is quiet |
| 20:00.51 | Tarragon | As in daed quiet? |
| 20:01.20 | zachary | I still have a pulse, I'm just ignoring everyone. :) |
| 20:02.20 | Tarragon | Pulse? You never told us you had a pulse. |
| 20:03.03 | zachary | I know since I'm a heartless sob. It doesn't make sense. |
| 20:04.23 | ResuDaed | out of those of you that are still alive ... have any of you successfully got a tv caputre card working? |
| 20:04.31 | ResuDaed | (specifically a brooktree compatible) |
| 20:04.42 | eye69 | ResuDaed: Sure, it's working perfectly. |
| 20:05.08 | eye69 | Just compile bttv as a module, load it and start xawtv or something. |
| 20:05.10 | formi | hey sush, it's started |
| 20:05.20 | zachary | Don't get one of the ADS Technologies, usb version. |
| 20:05.22 | eye69 | What has started where? |
| 20:05.41 | formi | ss6 c5 |
| 20:05.48 | eye69 | Ok |
| 20:06.21 | ResuDaed | s/ss6/st6 ? |
| 20:06.34 | formi | yeap |
| 20:07.31 | ResuDaed | xawtv returns a seg' fault :( |
| 20:09.11 | formi | off to bed to watch it |
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| 20:13.18 | eye69 | ResuDaed: What kernel are you using? |
| 20:13.42 | eye69 | Have you tried any other program than xawtv? |
| 20:15.09 | Tarragon | MainActor or Broadcast2000 |
| 20:15.26 | eye69 | I'm running "Zapping" myself. |
| 20:15.39 | eye69 | Mainly because I can't get fullscreen in xawtv anymore. |
| 20:16.10 | Davilion | evening all |
| 20:16.19 | Tarragon | Evening |
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| 20:31.37 | eye69 | Bloody commercials |
| 20:32.56 | ResuDaed | eye69 - 2.4.18 |
| 20:33.11 | ResuDaed | the debian 'off the shelf' kernel |
| 20:33.20 | ResuDaed | I have not yet got around to recompiling |
| 20:33.29 | eye69 | Get to it then :) |
| 20:34.03 | ResuDaed | TBH I don't know how my reason for not having got round to it yet - not had time to read up on it) |
| 20:35.13 | ResuDaed | and agreed on the 'bloody commercials' - far too many |
| 20:37.42 | ResuDaed | class bit with blood coming up |
| 20:55.46 | skugg | hi |
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| 21:10.13 | Davilion | ibot seen dank_work |
| 21:10.17 | | dank_work is currently on #gllug (1d 9h 22m 39s). Has said a total of 144 messages. Is idling for 5h 12m 31s |
| 21:10.17 | Davilion | ibot seen jenson |
| 21:10.18 | | jenson <Jenson@host62-7-3-63.in-addr.btopenworld.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 20h 29m 39s ago, saying: 'night formi'. |
| 21:55.29 | zachary | bbl |
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| 22:00.52 | Jenson | Hey guys |
| 22:01.24 | Tarragon | HI |
| 22:01.39 | Jenson | Hey Tarragon, how are you? |
| 22:02.39 | Tarragon | Working still :-( |
| 22:02.50 | Tarragon | Dealing with email |
| 22:03.14 | Tarragon | How are things? |
| 22:03.44 | Jenson | I'm sleepy, might go to bed if the computer doesn't wake me up a bit, otherwise I'm fone. |
| 22:03.53 | Jenson | s/fone/fine |
| 22:04.11 | Tarragon | Busy day? |
| 22:04.39 | Jenson | Not overly, it's just by Friday I'm always sleepy. |
| 22:05.18 | Tarragon | Weekend - plenty of time to recover. |
| 22:05.51 | Jenson | Yeah, I'm not gonna get out of bed early tomorrow. |
| 22:05.58 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 22:06.21 | Tarragon | But then you will miss Children's TV |
| 22:06.34 | Jenson | That's OK then. |
| 22:07.31 | Tarragon | Wheres Dan? |
| 22:07.49 | Jenson | At a mate's birthday thing |
| 22:07.57 | Jenson | He should be here later. |
| 22:08.30 | Tarragon | Ah Yes He was having trouble with servers today |
| 22:08.45 | Jenson | He was at Globix |
| 22:09.06 | Jenson | He got it sorted, he's gonna do the rest remotely from work on Monday |
| 22:10.03 | Tarragon | Hmmm I really should wake my wife and send her off to bed. |
| 22:10.42 | Jenson | Sounds like my dad Tarragon, I told him to go to bed instead of going to sleep on the chair, but he just ignored me and went to sleep anyway. |
| 22:11.47 | Tarragon | If I leave it long enough I might get chocolate, downside is she will not sleep well there. |
| 22:12.14 | Jenson | nah murble don't thnk about it until tomorrow |
| 22:12.17 | Tarragon | murble needs head examining. |
| 22:13.23 | murble | and doesn't have any other net access other than this dial up at 9.6k gsm which they will kill me for using due to high cost. |
| 22:13.34 | Tarragon | Ah that's different. You could always escape to exciting Be. |
| 22:13.55 | murble | i wonder what i'd do there? |
| 22:14.10 | murble | brusels is 3 hours and 13 euros 50 return |
| 22:14.18 | Tarragon | So not really work more going out for better net access. |
| 22:14.28 | murble | nope, i'll end up doing work. |
| 22:15.30 | murble | and hotel isn't in townn, it si about 1 -> 1.5 km outside without bus, which i discovered this evening what walking that distance felt like, and why 15 euros a night extra is worth it. |
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| 22:15.54 | Jenson | hi omphe_ |
| 22:15.57 | omphe_ | Evening all. |
| 22:16.30 | Tarragon | Wouldn't it be worth keeping a car in .lu |
| 22:20.06 | Tarragon | Yes - vital for that freedom. Just remember that the cost of learning is similar to cost of running a car so it never gets cheaper. |
| 22:21.15 | Jenson | I need a job first....coz I need broadband, and a contract mobile, and a new computer lol |
| 22:24.05 | Tarragon | Job after Uni or at same time? |
| 22:24.43 | Jenson | I'm kinda not going to uni this year...long story to do with panic attacks forcing me out of school etc |
| 22:25.16 | murble | Tarragon: whbat would require being able to drive. |
| 22:26.28 | Tarragon | Jenson: So you are going to take a year off then go back? |
| 22:27.14 | Tarragon | murble: Well sort of. One week pain of crash course then all over and done with |
| 22:27.31 | Jenson | I really don't know what I'm doing Tarragon, all I know is the only thing right in my life right now is Dan |
| 22:28.33 | Tarragon | OK thats a good start. Now what do you want to do in the future? |
| 22:28.58 | Tarragon | What would Dan like you to do in the future? |
| 22:29.42 | Jenson | I think he wants me to try and sort my education out. |
| 22:30.46 | Tarragon | He is only saying that so you will get a good job and keep him at home surrounded by geek toys. |
| 22:31.12 | Jenson | :) |
| 22:31.30 | Jenson | I think I'm his geek toy....lol |
| 22:31.55 | Tarragon | Non-geek toy. |
| 22:32.06 | omphe | Toy geek perhaps. |
| 22:32.12 | Jenson | :) omphe |
| 22:32.17 | Tarragon | :-) |
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| 22:33.12 | Tarragon | Hi zimm |
| 22:33.15 | Jenson | hi zimm hon |
| 22:33.20 | zimm | hi Tarragon |
| 22:33.25 | zimm | hi Jenson |
| 22:33.30 | zimm | hi people |
| 22:34.43 | Tarragon | Going outside to car to bring in HD before it freezes again BRB |
| 22:34.51 | zimm | hehe |
| 22:36.51 | Tarragon | Too late. Condensation already on them :-( |
| 22:37.30 | zimm | fscker |
| 22:47.02 | murble | hmm lots of securitgy announcements for kde |
| 22:47.28 | zimm | murble: ? |
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| 22:48.12 | ResuDaed_ | Jenson: command to kill ghost with nickserv? |
| 22:48.39 | Tarragon | zimm: http://www.debian.org/security/2003/ |
| 22:49.02 | zimm | ResuDaed : /msg nickserv ghost nick pass ? |
| 22:49.17 | ResuDaed_ | done now anyway (I think) |
| 22:49.29 | ResuDaed_ | alternative methods :) |
| 22:49.33 | zimm | hehe |
| 22:49.33 | ResuDaed_ | thanks anyway |
| 22:49.57 | Jenson | Yeah zimm thats right |
| 22:50.16 | Jenson | hey ResuDaed_ |
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| 22:52.31 | ResuDaed | who was there last saturday after the pub? |
| 22:52.42 | Jenson | I wasn't |
| 22:52.51 | Tarragon | How late after the Pub? |
| 22:52.54 | ResuDaed | (at the pub) |
| 22:53.01 | Jenson | Dan was. |
| 22:53.08 | Jenson | Formi was |
| 22:53.34 | ResuDaed | Tarragon: ResuBitch = Elizabeth |
| 22:53.56 | Jenson | ResuDaed: Is she at your house? |
| 22:54.27 | ResuDaed | Jenson: is that a proplem :-P |
| 22:54.40 | Jenson | ResuDaed: :P Of course not |
| 22:54.41 | Tarragon | Formi, ResuDaed, ResuBitch, Pete, SpudULike, Eye69, dank_work, highbury, me at least. |
| 22:54.49 | Jenson | Hey ResuBitch |
| 22:54.59 | ResuBitch | Hiya |
| 22:55.27 | Jenson | ResuBitch: I couldn't stay til the pub....but I think you met my boyfriend Dan. |
| 22:55.47 | ResuBitch | Yeah, he and my brother, David, spoke for a few hours. |
| 22:55.52 | ResuDaed | but I had no problem with it |
| 22:55.55 | Jenson | ResuDaed: OK, we believe you. |
| 22:56.14 | ResuBitch | lol |
| 22:56.21 | Jenson | ResuBitch: Yeah I was chatting to your brother on here last night. |
| 22:56.24 | ResuDaed | back me up here |
| 22:56.40 | Jenson | We are backing you up Tom, straight into a corner. |
| 22:56.41 | ResuBitch | It was all my idea, hand on heart. |
| 22:56.49 | ResuDaed | :-D |
| 22:57.17 | ResuBitch | Jenson: You've spoken to him more recently than I have! |
| 22:57.26 | Jenson | lol ResuBitch |
| 22:57.38 | Tarragon | We tried to check the logs but murble killed them |
| 22:57.59 | Jenson | Anyway I'm gonna go get some sleep, I've been here an hour and the computer hasn't made me more awake. |
| 22:58.05 | Jenson | How'd he do that Tarragon? |
| 22:59.49 | Jenson | ResuBitch: You a geekgirl then? |
| 23:00.11 | ResuDaed | in training |
| 23:00.27 | Jenson | Ah, cool, like me then |
| 23:00.29 | ResuBitch | Jenson: My only aspiration... |
| 23:00.34 | Jenson | ResuBitch: Which distro you use? |
| 23:00.41 | ResuDaed | not got that far yet :) |
| 23:00.52 | Jenson | :) |
| 23:01.01 | ResuDaed | (her brother is 'slack') |
| 23:01.01 | ResuBitch | I can just about sign in, and check e-mails! |
| 23:01.11 | Jenson | Well ResuDaed I got as far as the installation, but no furthur really lol |
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| 23:01.32 | Jenson | I know, Dan kept taking the piss outta South African Slack users for some reason last night |
| 23:01.34 | Jenson | wb zimm |
| 23:01.37 | zimm | :-) |
| 23:01.57 | ResuBitch | Nothing wrong with South Africans... |
| 23:02.18 | zimm | bfsdhi |
| 23:02.23 | zimm | dammit .. |
| 23:02.25 | ResuDaed | eh? |
| 23:02.29 | zimm | that was goinmg to be witty too |
| 23:02.30 | cupis | yeah, it's just slack users un general :) |
| 23:02.40 | Jenson | ResuBitch: Yeah I know....it was more the whole Slack user thing he was taking the piss out of seen as your brother, my boy/f and me are Slack users |
| 23:02.51 | Jenson | Night guys (and girl) |
| 23:02.57 | ResuDaed | night Jenson |
| 23:02.58 | zimm | laters Jenson |
| 23:03.01 | omphe | Night Jenson. |
| 23:03.05 | cupis | night J |
| 23:03.08 | ResuBitch | Is there something wrong with slack? |
| 23:03.12 | ResuDaed | zimm: what kernel you on? |
| 23:03.15 | ResuBitch | Night Jenson. x |
| 23:03.23 | Jenson | night ResuDaed....nothing naughty with your girl, the room don't wanna see. |
| 23:03.28 | Jenson | Night cupis |
| 23:03.33 | ResuDaed | slack is for those who like to do things the hard way |
| 23:03.37 | ResuDaed | (IMHO) |
| 23:03.39 | zimm | ResuDaed: 2.4.20 |
| 23:03.52 | Jenson | lol ResuDaed I think thats true |
| 23:03.58 | Jenson | night ResuBitch |
| 23:04.09 | Tarragon | night |
| 23:04.11 | ResuBitch | Jenson: Night night |
| 23:04.25 | zimm | ResuDaed: you still with debian tehn ? good good |
| 23:04.35 | Jenson | night Tarragon |
| 23:04.37 | ResuDaed | zimm: debian & netBSD |
| 23:04.45 | zimm | even better : |
| 23:04.48 | zimm | -) |
| 23:04.51 | omphe | Can I get an apt-amen? |
| 23:05.09 | cupis | omphe: apt-cache search apt-amen |
| 23:05.32 | Jenson | Anyway, see ya..... |
| 23:05.43 | ResuDaed | night jenson ... again |
| 23:05.47 | cupis | zimm: do you think that that will make it work better? |
| 23:05.59 | zimm | cupis: no , but it made me feel better :-) |
| 23:06.06 | ResuBitch | msg/ resudaed going to watch a movie? |
| 23:06.12 | zimm | night Jenson (again) |
| 23:06.12 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-74-111.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 23:06.18 | ResuDaed | I think msg came after the / :) |
| 23:06.32 | ResuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.05 | Tarragon | Responsible? Just 'cos I am older than everyone put together :-P |
| 23:07.09 | cupis | Tarragon is the responsible one? |
| 23:07.25 | ResuDaed | zimm - I don't recommend abusing tv cards ... I had to replace mine last time it annoyed me |
| 23:07.53 | ResuDaed | Tarragon is the only one that is even remotley responsible out of the entire room |
| 23:08.14 | zimm | ResuDaed: hehe , well , if you have ANY idea why hte damn thing locks my system up ,, please let me know |
| 23:08.45 | ResuDaed | because for it to work would be useful - oh yeah, your not using windows - no idea |
| 23:10.31 | zimm | heh |
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| 23:12.25 | ResuDaed | evening BorgBaby |
| 23:14.27 | Tarragon | Anyone tried WorkSpot? |
| 23:15.30 | ResuDaed | not me |
| 23:16.01 | Tarragon | Suppose I had better pay my $10 and give it a try. |
| 23:16.18 | ResuDaed | that much to try? |
| 23:16.28 | ResuDaed | or is that a full purchase job |
| 23:16.36 | Tarragon | $10 every month |
| 23:17.01 | ResuDaed | to what purpose (ie what does it do)? |
| 23:17.37 | Tarragon | It gives you a Red Hat 8.0 running on their server via your browser |
| 23:18.19 | ResuDaed | use would be for (example) other than hacking the planet from somewhere else |
| 23:19.37 | Tarragon | Showing people how good Linux is without knowing how to insert a Knoppix disc. |
| 23:19.50 | ResuDaed | Tarragon: you have any idea how i can make use of the framebuffer gadget? |
| 23:19.58 | ResuDaed | ah, i see |
| 23:19.59 | Tarragon | Still better than the Lindows deal |
| 23:20.52 | Tarragon | No. Framebuffer is nice but slow so you would not want to run anything graphical in it |
| 23:21.35 | ResuDaed | I am looking for a short-term way to use mplayer without recompiling my kernel |
| 23:22.12 | zimm | why do you have to rebuild the kernel to use mpalyer ? |
| 23:22.54 | ResuDaed | because the standard debian kernel wont allow me to use the nvidia drivers under it's current configuration |
| 23:23.11 | zimm | worked for me |
| 23:23.16 | zimm | why wont it ? |
| 23:23.45 | ResuDaed | it refuses to compile properly (the nvidia drivers) |
| 23:24.04 | zimm | ResuDaed: sid ? |
| 23:24.25 | ResuDaed | I *think* so - testing/unstable |
| 23:24.39 | zimm | dont forget sid just moved to gcc3.2 you need to build hte drivers with 2.95-4 |
| 23:24.46 | zimm | to match the kernel |
| 23:25.27 | ResuDaed | ah - I didn't know this - in the same way I don't know how to compile with 2.95-4 |
| 23:25.46 | ResuDaed | (/me feels ignorant) |
| 23:25.51 | cupis | ResuDaed: you don't need to compile mplayer - get the packages |
| 23:26.05 | ResuDaed | cupis - not mplayer, the nvidia drivers |
| 23:26.30 | zimm | $ export CC=gcc-2.9 \ |
| 23:26.30 | zimm | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.30 | zimm | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.31 | ResuDaed | or I have to put up with some extreme A-V type lag |
| 23:26.37 | cupis | <ResuDaed> I am looking for a short-term way to use mplayer without recompiling my kernel |
| 23:27.11 | cupis | it would be 2.95, not .29 |
| 23:27.17 | ResuDaed | I was looking at the framebuffer being that i have (as yet) not been able to compile the drivers for my gfx card |
| 23:27.19 | cupis | s/\.29/2.9/g |
| 23:27.22 | zimm | yeh , thats right cupis |
| 23:28.02 | zimm | or you culd symlink gcc etc to gcc-2.9.5-4 .. etc .. but thats ugly |
| 23:28.49 | cupis | zimm: it should be the default symlink unless you have gcc/unstable package |
| 23:29.04 | zimm | dammit i cant spell/type for shit tonight |
| 23:29.10 | zimm | cupis: he's running sid |
| 23:29.21 | zimm | default is 3.2 now ? |
| 23:29.56 | zimm | yet the kernel was built with 2.9 |
| 23:29.57 | cupis | zimm: ah yes. sid is 3.2. I read 'testing/unstable' and only took in the 'testing' part |
| 23:30.11 | cupis | zimm: no c++ in the kernel |
| 23:30.42 | zimm | yeh it matters with the nvidia drivers though , compiler versions have to match or it l;ays silly begars |
| 23:32.08 | ResuDaed | anyone installed the nvidia drivers before? |
| 23:32.18 | zimm | aye |
| 23:32.26 | ResuDaed | and would know the order in which I compile? (glx/kernel) |
| 23:32.36 | zimm | kernel first |
| 23:32.53 | zimm | (dont make a huge amount of difference though tbh) |
| 23:32.55 | cupis | zimm, ResuDaed: apt-get install gcc/testing; then do yuor compiling :) |
| 23:33.41 | zimm | wtf ? |
| 23:34.27 | cupis | install gcc/testing, default gcc should revert to 2.95 - do your compiling without playing with CC= CXX= etc |
| 23:34.43 | zimm | ahh .. |
| 23:34.51 | zimm | so its just called gcc/testing ? |
| 23:35.02 | zimm | eye69: Release 'testing' for 'gcc' was not found |
| 23:35.02 | zimm | socrates:~# |
| 23:35.15 | cupis | the package is gcc, the distro is 'testing' |
| 23:35.27 | cupis | zimm: you don't have testing in your sources.list |
| 23:35.36 | zimm | hmm ,, |
| 23:35.42 | zimm | ok , i got ya .. |
| 23:36.12 | cupis | zimm: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc_2.95.4-17.deb might do the trick :) |
| 23:36.18 | zimm | dont need it though personally .. been running 3.2 built everything for 3 months anyway .. |
| 23:36.29 | zimm | lol ., nah my cache is cleaned out . |
| 23:36.46 | cupis | zimm: cool, but ResuDaed could use it |
| 23:36.50 | zimm | aye .. |
| 23:37.08 | zimm | fsck me , default gkrellm is hideous |
| 23:37.59 | ResuDaed | kernel* isn't compiling because of a missing linux/... file - assuming I need to download my kernel source tree? |
| 23:38.13 | zimm | err , yup .. |
| 23:38.44 | ResuDaed | where from? (debian site being that it is a debian patched kernel)? |
| 23:38.50 | zimm | ResuDaed: you might wanna just build a nice custom one then if you have to do tat anyway . |
| 23:39.03 | cupis | 68 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 23:39.04 | cupis | Need to get 43.3MB/45.7MB of archives. After unpacking 3623kB will be used. |
| 23:39.09 | cupis | on Woody. ha |
| 23:39.27 | zimm | cupis: wha ..? security stuff ? |
| 23:39.32 | cupis | ResuDaed: install kernel-source-2. whatever package |
| 23:39.41 | cupis | zimm: security updates for kde |
| 23:39.54 | cupis | and cups |
| 23:42.11 | ResuDaed | 23.9MB :( |
| 23:42.48 | omphe | You'll be listening to fan and HD chatter as you sleep. |
| 23:43.00 | ResuDaed | zimm: I'll get around to customising it eventually |
| 23:43.51 | zimm | hehe |
| 23:50.16 | ResuDaed | zimm: unpack to /usr/src then rename to linux/ ? |
| 23:50.24 | ResuDaed | (guessing here) |
| 23:50.55 | zimm | guess so .. |
| 23:50.58 | ResuBitch | not a bit |
| 23:51.23 | ResuDaed | carry on people - nothing to see here |
| 23:51.34 | zimm | heh |
| 23:51.50 | cupis | ResuDaed: unpack in /usr/src and create a symlink from linux to kernel-source-foo |
| 23:52.01 | ResuDaed | cupis: ah |
| 23:52.14 | zimm | yeh that makes sense .. |
| 23:52.42 | cupis | ResuDaed: the package should have just dropped the tgz in /usr/src, so two commands tops should do it for you |
| 23:53.05 | cupis | or three if you include the initial cd |
| 23:53.43 | ResuDaed | cupis: tar -xjvf kern[tab] && link -s linux kern[tab] |
| 23:53.54 | ResuDaed | link = ln :) |
| 23:53.56 | cupis | ResuDaed: no |
| 23:54.29 | ResuDaed | ah well - a remotley close guess? |
| 23:54.43 | cupis | ResuDaed: cd /usr/src ** tar zxvf kern<tab> && ln -s kernel-souce-<tab><tab> (pick the folder) linux |
| 23:54.57 | cupis | you got your ln arguments the wrong way around |
| 23:55.24 | cupis | bah, those *'s should be &'s. |
| 23:55.31 | ResuDaed | ah - thinking faster than relating to real-world |
| 23:55.40 | ResuDaed | but close anyway :-) |
| 23:55.53 | cupis | ResuDaed: and tar doesn't need a hyphen anymore, but that is just nit-picking |
| 23:56.35 | cupis | ResuDaed: is the tarball bzipped nowadays, or still gzipped? |
| 23:56.45 | zimm | bzipped |
| 23:57.08 | zimm | can you email for pizza in london ? |
| 23:57.10 | cupis | ah, then jxvf, not zxvf for tar |
| 23:57.16 | cupis | zimm: I think so |
| 23:57.21 | zimm | i dont awnt to go downstairs to find my phone |
| 23:57.42 | cupis | zimm: how about to answer the door? |
| 23:57.44 | ResuDaed | cupis: it came in bz2 |
| 23:57.58 | cupis | ResuDaed: yeah, use j, not c then |
| 23:58.04 | cupis | (you were right) |
| 23:58.07 | ResuDaed | it's still not compiling - file still missing |
| 23:58.27 | cupis | ResuDaed: how are you trying to compile it? |
| 23:58.31 | cupis | zimm: dominos |
| 23:58.42 | cupis | maybe |
| 23:59.01 | ResuDaed | um ... make |
| 23:59.08 | cupis | ResuDaed: hmmm |
| 23:59.17 | ResuDaed | it is returning the same error still |
| 23:59.21 | cupis | ResuDaed: and what file does it say is missing? |
| 23:59.31 | ResuDaed | linux/modversions.h |
| 23:59.38 | cupis | Resudeyou should really be using the kernel-package system, btw |
| 23:59.50 | zimm | ResuDaed: so you got the tar.g from nvidia.com , tar -xvzf foo, cd foo , make install ? |
