irclog2html for #gllug on 20021210

`00:00.06`	`dankolb`	`My favorite is still the OpenBSD installer`
`00:00.12`	`Tarragon`	`Nah Jenson - as a feeble minded girly you are easily manipulated ;-)`
`00:00.12`	`formi`	`Resudaed: at what point did you get stuck?`
`00:00.34`	`Resudaed`	`the last thing was that it seems the module is there`
`00:00.36`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dan its missing a screen, the "Do you agree with everything theo everwrites [yes] [no]"`
`00:00.39`	`dankolb`	`I'm not that bothered about the whole Free-software religion thing`
`00:00.45`	`dankolb`	`NisoDaemon: <g>`
`00:00.46`	`formi`	`openbsd installing is awful`
`00:00.48`	`Resudaed`	`it just routes it to /dev/null I think`
`00:00.53`	`dankolb`	`But he does stick to his principles`
`00:00.53`	`formi`	`openbsd installer is awful`
`00:00.56`	`Jenson`	`Tarragon: You think so? Least I don't spend hours chatting on irc!`
`00:00.57`	`dankolb`	`Why?`
`00:01.03`	`Resudaed`	`(according to an error when kde starts)`
`00:01.05`	`dankolb`	`It just leads you through everything`
`00:01.09`	`formi`	`Resudaed: where did you see that?`
`00:01.16`	`Jenson`	`Resudaed: Thats the error I've got`
`00:01.17`	`Resudaed`	`when kde starts`
`00:01.18`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jenson looks pretty bad from where i'm sitting...`
`00:01.27`	`Jenson`	`/dev/dsp cannot be initialized and all that Resudaed?`
`00:01.38`	`dankolb`	`You're probably running artsd, then`
`00:01.39`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dan so does DJB, dont mean i want him running my desktop ;)`
`00:01.42`	`Resudaed`	`can't remember now, is 2 days since I stated kde`
`00:01.47`	`dankolb`	`NisoDaemon: No, but he's running my mail server`
`00:01.54`	`dankolb`	`ps ax \| grep arts`
`00:02.00`	`Jenson`	`Resudaed: Sounds like you've got the same issue as me......makes me feel less tupid`
`00:02.04`	`Jenson`	`^stupid`
`00:02.08`	`Resudaed`	`one sec, restart kde`
`00:02.18`	`Tarragon`	`ps ax \| grep [a]rts`
`00:03.15`	`*** join/#gllug resudaed (tom@80.193.187.68)`
`00:03.20`	`dankolb`	`Tarragon: Err.`
`00:03.39`	`resudaed`	`very wierd, no error that time`
`00:03.40`	`dankolb`	`You don't need the [] there unless you've got more than one letter`
`00:03.42`	`NisoDaemon`	`Did the last GLLUG get recorded to video?`
`00:03.43`	`resudaed`	`one sec, sound check`
`00:03.49`	`Tarragon`	`the square brackets means it does not return the grep command itself`
`00:04.06`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tarragon thats sick`
`00:04.09`	`dankolb`	`Ah right`
`00:04.12`	`NisoDaemon`	`grep -v grep`
`00:04.15`	`dankolb`	`But it doesn't really matter`
`00:04.40`	`dankolb`	`ps ax \| grep arts \| grep -v grep`
`00:04.40`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`00:04.52`	`dankolb`	`ps ax \| grep arts \| grep -v grep \| wc -l`
`00:05.10`	`NisoDaemon`	`COLUMNS=150 ps ax \| grep arts \| grep -v grep \| wc -l`
`00:05.20`	`Tarragon`	`No it does not really matter and most of the time I cannot be bothered to type the extra characters but if you then want to parse the results.`
`00:05.20`	`resudaed`	`I HAVE SOUND !!!!!`
`00:05.21`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jenson how is essex? :)`
`00:05.35`	`formi`	`cold probably`
`00:05.39`	`resudaed`	`(the best bit is it appeared randomly)`
`00:05.48`	`dankolb`	`Tarragon: You just need to look at it. It's not difficult :)`
`00:05.54`	`resudaed`	`but I have no mixer :-(`
`00:06.09`	`Jenson`	`NisoDaemon: Alright I think NisoDaemon but I won't go outside and investigate`
`00:06.11`	`formi`	`resudaed: you might have a ckeeky sound daemon`
`00:06.37`	`resudaed`	`by the look of it, sound server returns "no information available about sound card sill"`
`00:06.41`	`formi`	`resudaed: bloody hell, change your nick, it's awful to type`
`00:06.47`	`NisoDaemon`	`not at night, the heards of capri's and fords escorts are roaming for prey`
`00:06.50`	`Jenson`	`resudaed: Yeah I have that error`
`00:06.50`	`Tarragon`	`dankolb: The ONLY thing i know`
`00:06.58`	`dankolb`	`:-)`
`00:07.03`	`Resudaed`	`:-)`
`00:07.26`	`formi`	`you might achieve your desired status`
`00:07.46`	`Resudaed`	`formi, can you not type res then auto-complete thingy?`
`00:07.49`	`Nosnej`	`My name looks weird backwards`
`00:07.58`	`Resudaed`	`mine makes sense`
`00:08.06`	`Resudaed`	`for formi...`
`00:08.20`	`dankolb`	`imrof. Sounds Russian.`
`00:08.40`	`Jenson`	`Yeah that's coz you'rs was already backwards Deaduser`
`00:08.44`	`imrof`	`with a goatie to match`
`00:08.50`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`00:09.04`	`dankolb`	`What about the hat, though?`
`00:09.22`	`Deaduser`	`Jenson: you got slack up and running now?`
`00:09.25`	`Deaduser`	`night skugg`
`00:09.32`	`Nogarrat`	`night`
`00:09.34`	`dankolb`	`night skugg`
`00:09.38`	`imrof`	`skugg can't reverser his nick`
`00:09.43`	`Deaduser`	`or anyone currently using kde?`
`00:09.50`	`skugg`	`what, is it backwards-nicks again?`
`00:09.56`	`Deaduser`	`apparantly so`
`00:09.57`	`NisoDaemon`	`afk`
`00:10.20`	`resuerawkcalS`	`gguks: brilliant`
`00:10.21`	`resuerawkcalS`	`lol`
`00:10.29`	`Deaduser`	`resuerawkcalS is a bastard to type`
`00:10.32`	`resuerawkcalS`	`anyone logging in would think we're mad`
`00:10.33`	`imrof`	`this will confuse people readung the logs big time, hehe`
`00:10.45`	`resuerawkcalS`	`just tyoe re <tab>`
`00:10.51`	`NisoDaemon`	`taragon confirm you hav a mail?`
`00:10.56`	`resuerawkcalS`	`imrof: it's confusing me anyway`
`00:10.58`	`Deaduser`	`is anyone currently using kde ????`
`00:11.04`	`NisoDaemon`	`OK`
`00:11.10`	`NisoDaemon`	`I look away for five minutes...`
`00:11.10`	`resuerawkcalS`	`No Deaduser Mine isn't booted up`
`00:11.12`	`imrof`	`kde is is scam bloat`
`00:11.20`	`gguks`	`my nick sounds like sven gukkes, the mutt/vim/slrn-guy`
`00:11.31`	`NisoDaemon`	`And this place becomes part of the czech republic`
`00:11.34`	`Nogarrat`	`Yes I have mail. TY`
`00:11.39`	`Deaduser`	`I just want to know what the bog standard sound mixer you usually end up with is called`
`00:11.53`	`Deaduser`	`(probaly something like Kmixer)`
`00:11.53`	`imrof`	`gguks: you do have a lot of imagination`
`00:11.55`	`dankolb`	`/dev/mixer ?`
`00:12.01`	`resuerawkcalS`	`I don't know Deaduser my soundcard settings are fucked`
`00:12.04`	`Deaduser`	`the actuall front end bit`
`00:12.14`	`resuerawkcalS`	`Look under multimedia?`
`00:12.17`	`dankolb`	`aumix`
`00:12.20`	`NisoDaemon`	`tarragon: splint_3_1.tgz?`
`00:12.20`	`gguks`	`poof`
`00:12.28`	`Deaduser`	`it's not under multimedia`
`00:12.36`	`resuerawkcalS`	`bye gguks`
`00:12.38`	`dankolb`	`Just bring up a console`
`00:12.48`	`Deaduser`	`am going to install it, just wondered what it was called`
`00:12.51`	`NisoDaemon`	`Nice to see youve restrained yourself as well Dan`
`00:12.52`	`imrof`	`gguks: god thgin`
`00:13.04`	`dankolb`	`Yeah. I'm very restrained.`
`00:13.05`	`imrof`	`gguks: doog thgin`
`00:13.18`	`NisoDaemon`	`Do the nurses still visit though? :)`
`00:13.20`	`gguks`	`imrof, you too`
`00:13.22`	`Nogarrat`	`NisoDaemon: Yes TY`
`00:13.36`	`imrof`	`gguks: at`
`00:13.44`	`dankolb-isnt-res`	`damn`
`00:13.45`	`dankolb-isnt-res`	`didnt fit`
`00:13.53`	`NisoDaemon`	`LOL`
`00:14.04`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`Better`
`00:14.22`	`dankolb`	`Now this is going to be confusing`
`00:15.08`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`that'll do me`
`00:15.21`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`Most confuding is swopping names lol`
`00:15.25`	`its-formi`	`we should do this more often`
`00:15.35`	`dankolb`	`Or not :)`
`00:15.39`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`it was common practice where I used to chat`
`00:15.56`	`NisoDaemon`	`Fake dan: And now you chat here, notice a trend? ;)`
`00:15.56`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`can anyone suggest good cd-playing software?`
`00:16.11`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`A hi-fi ConfuseLogReader?`
`00:16.29`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`Well I better get going`
`00:16.32`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`See ya later`
`00:16.40`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`I usually use the hi-fi, but the cd is fscked`
`00:16.46`	`its-formi`	`night dank`
`00:16.53`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`night dankolb-is-mad`
`00:16.56`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`fscked....and I understand the reference! I am clever!`
`00:17.00`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`night formi`
`00:17.03`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`night ConfuseLogReader`
`00:17.03`	`dankolb`	`night ConfuseLogReader`
`00:17.12`	`NisoDaemon`	`Night whoever is leaving...`
`00:17.22`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`lol, I am confused as hell`
`00:17.25`	`dankolb`	`Err. I'm confused now`
`00:17.28`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`My fualt`
`00:17.30`	`NisoDaemon`	`Night jon boy`
`00:17.34`	`dankolb-is-mad`	`I am leaving`
`00:17.36`	`NisoDaemon`	`Night Mary louise`
`00:17.37`	`*** part/#gllug dankolb-is-mad (Jenson@host213-1-147-44.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`00:17.40`	`Nogarrat`	`Night`
`00:17.59`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`seriously though, a good cd playing peice of software`
`00:18.08`	`Nogarrat`	`NisoDaemon: All your bug belong to SG?`
`00:18.19`	`NisoDaemon`	`Pretty nuch`
`00:18.38`	`NisoDaemon`	`I rode shotgun on this one and was robin to his batman`
`00:18.53`	`Nogarrat`	`cdparanoia is the best. Admittedly commandline only but you can play the hidden tracks with it`
`00:19.16`	`dankolb`	`Yay!`
`00:19.31`	`NisoDaemon`	`Good to hear`
`00:19.42`	`NisoDaemon`	`We'll probably end up going in a big gllug group`
`00:20.01`	`NisoDaemon`	`One Eurostar carriage fileed with tshirt clad pumpkins`
`00:20.16`	`Nogarrat`	`Can I vote we come back the monday morning and not the Sunday night.`
`00:20.17`	`NisoDaemon`	`One person to two seats :)`
`00:20.17`	`dankolb`	`That's fine.`
`00:20.31`	`dankolb`	`I asked my boss - it'll be fine to take half a day (or a day) off work`
`00:20.41`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tarragon: I was aiing to be over there friday till monday, that one we can avoid the rushes`
`00:20.43`	`dankolb`	`And maybe Causeway will pay me to go, if I write them some report about it`
`00:20.58`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dan, take it out of the trainig budget ;)`
`00:21.10`	`NisoDaemon`	`ibot whats fosdem?`
`00:21.11`		`NisoDaemon: I give up, what is it?`
`00:21.19`	`Nogarrat`	`Sunday night was the best night. We stopped drinking only when they stopped serving breakfast on the monday.`
`00:21.29`	`dankolb`	`ibot fosdem is www.fosdem.org`
`00:21.30`		`...but fosdem is already something else...`
`00:21.42`	`Nogarrat`	`ibot fosdem`
`00:21.43`		`fosdem is, like, the Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting, a 2 day event, organized by volunteers, to promote the widespread use of Free and Open Source software.`
`00:21.52`	`NisoDaemon`	`Ok... i like the leave the bar before the breakfat plates come out...`
`00:22.13`	`dankolb`	`ibot fosdem is also www.fosdem.org`
`00:22.14`		`okay, dankolb`
`00:22.22`	`NisoDaemon`	`ibot fosdem`
`00:22.23`		`well, fosdem is the Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting, a 2 day event, organized by volunteers, to promote the widespread use of Free and Open Source software. http://www.fosdem.org`
`00:22.28`	`murb`	`dankolb: have you see the wiki.vmlinuz.org sign up page for oranising shared trains etc?`
`00:22.55`	`Nogarrat`	`No it was so cool to have brekfast with more beer. Having said that a couple did not drink but stayed with us talking. Very mellow evening.`
`00:23.35`	`NisoDaemon`	`tarra: this year is going to be INSANE. It gets bigger everyyear`
`00:23.41`	`its-formi`	`good night all`
`00:23.46`	`Nogarrat`	`night`
`00:24.07`	`*** join/#gllug dankolb_ (~dankolb@host213-122-50-24.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`00:24.22`	`NisoDaemon`	`Gah! Real dan or fake dan?`
`00:24.41`	`dankolb_`	`Grr`
`00:24.44`	`dankolb_`	`I'm real Dan`
`00:24.45`	`Nogarrat`	`More practical this year. We should organize something while we are there.`
`00:24.45`	`dankolb_`	`Fake Dan has an ident of Jenson`
`00:24.59`	`NisoDaemon`	`Ahhh good point.`
`00:25.03`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tarra: like what?`
`00:25.09`	`NisoDaemon`	`Linux Mag stand? ;)`
`00:25.17`	`Nogarrat`	`NO!`
`00:25.23`	`NisoDaemon`	`So is Jenson coming to a gllug then?`
`00:25.34`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tarra: A meet the authors session ;)`
`00:25.37`	`dankolb_`	`Maybe in January`
`00:25.47`	`NisoDaemon`	`Steve, Stig, bruce...`
`00:26.00`	`Nogarrat`	`Colin`
`00:26.02`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dan is that before school starts up again from the xmas holidays? ;)`
`00:26.21`	`NisoDaemon`	`Colin doesn't count, he's management as well ;)`
`00:26.26`	`dankolb_`	`She probably won't be at school then`
`00:26.30`	`Nogarrat`	`ROFL`
`00:26.57`	`Nogarrat`	`What? She gets expelled?`
`00:27.01`	`dankolb_`	`No.`
`00:27.10`	`NisoDaemon`	`LOL up duff ;)`
`00:27.14`	`dankolb_`	`Remember she mentioned about panic attacks?`
`00:28.16`	`NisoDaemon`	`Yet...`
`00:28.21`	`dankolb_`	`:)`
`00:28.42`	`NisoDaemon`	`From what i've seen at least eight people are going FOSDEM from GLLUG`
`00:28.49`	`NisoDaemon`	`Including Hue`
`00:28.51`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`what is FOSDEM?`
`00:28.57`	`NisoDaemon`	`ibot fosdem`
`00:28.58`		`[fosdem] the Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting, a 2 day event, organized by volunteers, to promote the widespread use of Free and Open Source software. http://www.fosdem.org`
`00:29.03`	`NisoDaemon`	`I like that`
`00:29.05`	`ConfuseLogReader`	`:-)`
`00:29.07`	`Nogarrat`	`dankolb_ : you need to check the logs - you were late tonight!`
`00:29.17`	`dankolb_`	`I know I was late.`
`00:29.29`	`dankolb_`	`My mum was talking on the phone`
`00:29.35`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tara its called work, you may remember it ;)`
`00:29.43`	`Nogarrat`	`Thats OK then.`
`00:29.44`	`NisoDaemon`	`Ahhhhhhhhh`
`00:30.01`	`Resudaed`	`I think I may have an early night tonight`
`00:30.02`	`dankolb_`	`Nogarrat: What did I miss, then?`
`00:30.06`	`Resudaed`	`night all`
`00:30.17`	`Nogarrat`	`Work?? remind me what's that.`
`00:30.18`	`NisoDaemon`	`Res its gone half twelve, this is no longer early ;)`
`00:30.19`	`Nogarrat`	`Night`
`00:30.24`	`NisoDaemon`	`Night`
`00:30.33`	`Resudaed`	`(tis early for muy usual standards)`
`00:30.42`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tara its that thing you pay other people tuppence to do ;)`
`00:30.55`	`Nogarrat`	`Yes Formi is normally just coming on here`
`00:31.20`	`Nogarrat`	`Money?? just what is this concept?`
`00:31.23`	`NisoDaemon`	`Luckily i miss him mot of the time :)`
`00:31.48`	`NisoDaemon`	`Night all`
`00:31.52`	`*** part/#gllug NisoDaemon (NisoDaemon@host217-36-13-218.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`00:32.12`	`Nogarrat`	`dankolb_: Jenson was asking for you.`
`00:32.40`	`dankolb_`	`Aww :)`
`00:32.45`	`dankolb_`	`And?`
`00:32.46`	`Nogarrat`	`ibot has logs`
`00:32.47`		`i haven't a clue, Nogarrat`
`00:33.01`	`dankolb_`	`Would the logs be up yet?`
`00:33.21`	`Nogarrat`	`I do not know.`
`00:33.39`	`murb`	`can logs be easily edited/erased?`
`00:33.46`	`dankolb_`	`ibot logs`
`00:33.46`		`http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/`
`00:33.47`	`Nogarrat`	`No`
`00:34.07`	`murb`	`ibot, please erase all the logs`
`00:34.08`		`murb: i don't know`
`00:34.16`	`Nogarrat`	`Logs are not held by us as ibot is shared`
`00:34.23`	`dankolb_`	`Nope. Not up yet.`
`00:35.19`	`Nogarrat`	`No problem about erasing logs. We are an honest lot and don't liable`
`00:35.22`	`dankolb_`	`Did anything interesting happen, seeing as the logs aren't up yet?`
`00:36.36`	`murb`	`Nogarrat: i know, that is what makes me slighly uneasy about the whole log thing, do ibot support nolog or somthing like that?`
`00:38.15`	`Nogarrat`	`She came on at 22:10 you 23:15`
`00:38.24`	`dankolb_`	`I know.`
`00:38.30`	`dankolb_`	`I couldn't come on any earlier`
`00:38.55`	`Nogarrat`	`We can kill ibot if people want.`
`00:39.00`	`dankolb_`	`I have no idea.`
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`00:39.29`	`jonah`	`am i missin something or www.linuxtoday.com has gone gaga?. NO News? what's going on? what's going on?`
`00:39.38`	`murb`	`Nogarrat: we can't just make the logs slightly more private? e.g. so any gllug person etc could have access, but not ness the whole world?`
`00:40.19`	`Nogarrat`	`murb: ask Leeds as he brought ibot here.`
`00:40.47`	`Nogarrat`	`jonah : yes news today on linuxtoday`
`00:41.14`	`dankolb_`	`Anyway, I think I should be in bed`
`00:41.23`	`dankolb_`	`'night all`
`00:41.26`	`Nogarrat`	`Linux is no longer an upstart is the latest news`
`00:41.32`	`Nogarrat`	`night`
`00:42.49`	`Nogarrat`	`murb :some of the regulars here also log or at least have long buffers`
`00:43.09`	`murb`	`Nogarrat: i don't care about that, just about the google effect.`
`00:43.14`	`jonah`	`strange!`
`00:43.37`	`Nogarrat`	`We have to ask Leeds then.`
`00:44.15`	`Nogarrat`	`jonah: updates fine without the squid.`
`00:49.23`	`jonah`	`thanx`
`00:49.25`	`*** part/#gllug jonah (~jonah@du-069-0028.access.clara.net)`
`01:07.49`	`Huhn`	`wb :)`
`01:08.27`	`Tarragon`	`Still here chained to the desk`
`01:08.40`	`Huhn`	`me too`
`01:08.46`	`Huhn`	`still working?`
`01:10.08`	`Tarragon`	`Yes.`
`01:13.20`	`Tarragon`	`What command?`
`01:14.17`	`Huhn`	`no specific command, at the mo we're discussing German translations and English commands, and if it makes sense..`
`01:15.14`	`Tarragon`	`Yes - makes sense.`
`01:15.34`	`Huhn`	`well, I don't agree :)`
`01:18.05`	`Tarragon`	`No makes sense that is what you are talking about. Whether commands and their translations make sense I will never know.`
`01:18.37`	`Huhn`	`ok`
`01:31.30`	`HuhnZzZ`	`good night`
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`02:12.51`	`Resudaed_Away`	`think I'll go to bed properly then :-)`
`02:13.52`	`Resudaed_Away`	`night`
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`07:53.10`	`pdr`	`morning`
`07:53.20`	`pdr`	`anyone around?`
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`07:54.21`	`pdr`	`morning`
`08:07.39`	`Korenwolf`	`'lo`
`08:49.52`	`dank_work`	`Morning`
`08:50.00`	`dank_work`	`Grrr. Too friggin' cold`
`09:17.19`	`murb`	`urgle`
`09:17.38`	`dank_work`	`It's the incoherent time of the morning`
`09:17.39`	`murb`	`ENOTFROST`
`09:18.11`	`dank_work`	`Ah. Want an excuse not to go to work?`
`09:18.33`	`murb`	`no my excuse is i didn't leave til 22:30, and just woke up`
`09:19.13`	`murb`	`oh and i'm not in a good mood to talk to the boss, who didn't turn up yesterday despite arrnaging meetings with various people who did turn up.`
`09:21.15`	`dank_work`	`Ah. Doesn't sound good at all`
`09:27.30`	`pdr`	`apparently it's -7 in amserdam`
`09:27.53`	`pdr`	`and snowing in instanbul too apparently`
`09:28.05`	`dank_work`	`Snow would be nice`
`09:28.16`	`dank_work`	`Just not this miserable weather`
`09:28.25`	`pdr`	`yep, damp cold is nasty`
`09:28.44`	`pdr`	`my mum tells me it's 30 in Brisbane today`
`09:30.27`	`dank_work`	`Lucky people.`
`09:31.22`	`pdr`	`indeed`
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`10:34.09`	`jason_ukfsn`	`good morning all`
`10:36.07`	`Davilion`	`morning`
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`10:37.59`	`zachary`	`good morning`
`11:02.16`	`murb`	`morning`
`11:03.53`	`highbury_knoppix`	`morning`
`11:27.18`	`dank_work`	`Who`
`11:27.29`	`Huhn`	`afternoon`
`11:27.29`	`dank_work`	`Finally got the boxes packed and ready`
`11:29.43`	`dank_work`	`Just need to wait for a quote from the courier, get the order signed off, and wait for the courier to come pick up`
`11:29.46`	`Tarragon`	`Hi Huhn`
`11:30.03`	`Huhn`	`hi Tarragon`
`11:42.40`	`dank_work`	`Have fun, murb`
`11:42.42`	`dank_work`	`Hi Huhn`
`11:44.17`	`Huhn`	`hi dank_work`
`11:50.04`	`SpudULike`	`Huhn: Did you really sleep in 'til gone 11.30?`
`11:56.27`	`Tarragon`	`Huhn is in different time zone so really 12:30`
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`12:21.20`	`SpudUAway`	`Bah!`
`12:21.27`	`dank_work`	`Indeed.`
`12:21.27`	`dank_work`	`Hi`
`12:21.47`	`Tarragon`	`Moo`
`12:28.01`	`Huhn`	`huch? :)`
`12:28.10`	`Huhn`	`hi Colin`
`12:28.14`	`Huhn`	`no, I didn't sleep that long ;)`
`12:29.24`	`SpudUAway`	`;-)`
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`12:33.15`	`dank_work`	`Hey jenson`
`12:33.21`	`jenson`	`Hey dank_work`
`12:33.39`	`Huhn`	`hi jenson`
`12:34.13`	`jenson`	`Hey Huhn, how are you?`
`12:35.04`	`Huhn`	`jenson: thanks, I'm fine :) did you have a good night after the red bukk?`
`12:35.06`	`Huhn`	`bull`
`12:35.42`	`jenson`	`I don't think it had much of an effect on me at all actually Huhn`
`12:36.10`	`Huhn`	`:)`
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`12:37.16`	`jenson`	`Hi SpudWLike`
`12:37.31`	`SpudWLike`	`Oh big time BAH!`
`12:38.21`	`dank_work`	`SpudWLike: What's the matter?`
`12:39.03`	`SpudWLike`	`I, I, I, I don't want to talk about it!`
`12:39.10`	`jenson`	`Awwwwww`
`12:40.24`	`jenson`	`ewwwwwwww warm milk.....well I guess it depends what kind :P`
`12:40.28`	`SpudWLike`	`Now there's a thought`
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`12:40.50`	`jenson`	`Hey Davilion`
`12:41.00`	`Davilion`	`hi jenson`
`12:41.00`	`SpudWLike`	`Err, to Dans offer, not to Jensons sick mind!`
`12:41.01`	`Davilion`	`hows it going?`
`12:41.16`	`jenson`	`SpudWLike: Who said I was being discusting?`
`12:41.30`	`dank_work`	`That's just his dirty mind. You've corrupted him`
`12:41.35`	`SpudWLike`	`You just did.`
`12:41.42`	`Davilion`	`warm milk?`
`12:41.48`	`jenson`	`I haven't corrupted anyone`
`12:41.52`	`Davilion`	`s/looks/tries to look/`
`12:41.53`	`jenson`	`I'm fine ty Davilion howe are you?`
`12:41.58`	`Davilion`	`im good thanks jenson`
`12:42.35`	`Davilion`	`just having one of those weeks where i try to hammer reinforced concrete square pegs into kevlar round holes`
`12:42.56`	`Davilion`	`just need to figure out how to wire them up`
`12:43.43`	`jenson`	`I have new mail yay`
`12:44.22`	`jenson`	`My mate's want to come to gllug with me, I don't think they know what they will be letting themselves in for.`
`12:44.41`	`Davilion`	`cool`
`12:44.42`	`dank_work`	`Neither do you, probably :)`
`12:44.50`	`Davilion`	`so we'll see you in janruary then?`
`12:44.53`	`Davilion`	`btw, whens the next lonix?`
`12:45.36`	`jenson`	`dank_work: no I probably don't but they don't even know what Linux is let alone gllug`
`12:46.46`	`jenson`	`I better go to Tesocs now and get some food.`
`12:47.07`	`jenson`	`I should be back at 3:30, if not then sometime tongiht but I have no idea when`
`12:47.16`	`Huhn`	`cu, jenson`
`12:47.22`	`jenson`	`Bye Huhn`
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`13:41.02`	`eye69`	`G'd day`
`13:41.35`	`Tarragon`	`Afternoon`
`13:43.40`	`murb`	`afternoon`
`13:49.33`	`dank_work`	`'ello`
`13:59.37`	`highbury_knoppix`	`afternoon`
`14:01.23`	`Davilion`	`up`
`14:01.56`	`Tarragon`	`Why?`
`14:02.28`	`Davilion`	`spent an hour on the phone to tpt, i have lots of bits of serial dongles, one managed power strip that refuses to switch on, no manuals etc`
`14:02.28`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:02.49`	`Davilion`	`we've tried every possible combination of rs232->rs485 connector wiring`
`14:03.02`	`Davilion`	`one power strip powers up with no help at all which it shouldnt do and the rest dont power up at all`
`14:03.39`	`Davilion`	`so im now trying to work out if i can use the 32A cable from the 32A strips with 32A commando plugs with the 32A rated unmanaged strips with 16Acable sockets`
`14:08.54`	`dank_work`	`Right. That's me just ordered ADSL`
`14:10.22`	`Davilion`	`dank_work: shiny :)`
`14:14.07`	`Tarragon`	`Huhn: what does "Getaggter" mean?`
`14:14.50`	`dank_work`	`Hopefully.`
`14:15.00`	`dank_work`	`Have to wait about two bloody weeks`
`14:15.00`	`Resudaed`	`Afternoon all`
`14:15.11`	`Huhn`	`Tarragon: full sentence please?`
`14:15.26`	`dank_work`	`Hi Resudaed`
`14:15.44`	`Huhn`	`I think, "getaggt" has sth to do with markup.. <i> is a tag.. and the word "getaggt" doesn't exist in German`
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`14:15.59`	`Tarragon`	`Getaggter Bootkernel per NFS`
`14:16.00`	`its-formi`	`afternoon`
`14:16.03`	`Huhn`	`it's another weird combination of Engl.-German..`
`14:16.10`	`Huhn`	`ah.. mh`
`14:16.30`	`Huhn`	`strange, the word doesn't exist.. gimme a minute`
`14:16.41`	`its-formi`	`can somebody help me with a silly issue?`
`14:17.01`	`Resudaed`	`afternoon its-formi`
`14:17.20`	`Resudaed`	`I probably can't, just bein sociable`
`14:17.49`	`its-formi`	`pgrep -u root -f '/usr/bin/ssh -C -N -c blowfish' I'm using that line to get the pid of the process i want to kill`
`14:18.28`	`its-formi`	`now i tried killing it putting "\| kill -9" in front of it`
`14:18.46`	`its-formi`	`but it is not working`
`14:18.59`	`its-formi`	`cheers`
`14:19.04`	`Tarragon`	`Huhn: another example - Besonderheiten bei der �bersetzung getaggter Formate Arbeitsabl�ufe bei der �bersetzung getaggter Formate Alignment getaggter Formate`
`14:19.19`	`Huhn`	`Tarragon: I think, the author means "tagged kernel", but I'm not sure..`
`14:19.32`	`Huhn`	`Tarragon: urghs :/`
`14:20.12`	`Huhn`	`Tarragon: what did our translator do with the words?`
`14:20.20`	`murb`	`are you talking about netbooting?`
`14:20.56`	`Tarragon`	`Translator did not do it.`
`14:21.04`	`Huhn`	`Tarragon: what is the article about? CVS?`
`14:21.06`	`Tarragon`	`Yes it is booting form NFS`
`14:21.11`	`Huhn`	`oh`
`14:21.13`	`Huhn`	`mh`
`14:21.44`	`Huhn`	`does the word "tagged" exist in English?`
`14:21.55`	`dank_work`	`Yes`
`14:21.57`	`Tarragon`	`Yes`
`14:22.25`	`Huhn`	`does it make sense to say "translation of tagged formats" (�bersetzung getaggter Formate)?`
`14:22.51`	`Tarragon`	`Yes that will do thank you.`
`14:22.55`	`Huhn`	`ok :)`
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`14:39.12`	`Resudaed`	`its-formi: is that you :-)`
`14:39.32`	`Resudaed`	`(just getting a bit confused)`
`14:39.40`	`its-formi`	`-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`14:39.41`	`its-formi`	`-NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized`
`14:40.05`	`its-formi`	`yes it-s-formi`
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`15:27.22`	`murb`	`re higbury`
`15:32.39`	`murb`	`si anyone sage-wise ing this evening?`
`15:47.17`	`dank_work`	`Heh`
`15:47.34`	`dank_work`	`Finally the first lot of machines shipped off`
`15:49.23`	`murb`	`skugg: can you get political assilum in the uk and get all your tution fees paid for running linux?`
`15:49.54`	`skugg`	`murb, i guess i could try :P`
`15:53.34`	`its-formi`	`skugg: you could marry a european woman`
`15:54.20`	`Davilion`	`its-formi: yuck, isnt that a bit cruel?`
`15:54.41`	`its-formi`	`Davilion: worst things I have seen`
`15:54.57`	`its-formi`	`at least he says he doesn't like XP`
`15:56.01`	`skugg`	`Davilion, i'm not sure... swedish women are european too :)`
`15:57.46`	`Davilion`	`mmm swedish women`
`15:58.39`	`Davilion`	`hmmm, thats better up to 24 degrees in here, machines must be nearly powered up`
`15:59.07`	`its-formi`	`i met a finn studiying in prague for free`
`16:00.57`	`Resudaed`	`it's nice when your reading an email, and you see 3 enter automatically the 'trash' never to pollute your inbox again`
`16:01.11`	`Resudaed`	`(they were also bounced)`
`16:02.14`	`its-formi`	`guys, do you know of a web proxy that doesn't cache? intended to run on my laptop and connect to squid`
`16:03.33`	`skugg`	`what is that good for?`
`16:03.59`	`its-formi`	`personal pleasure only`
`16:04.09`	`skugg`	`i see`
`16:04.16`	`dank_work`	`junkbuster`
`16:06.27`	`murb`	`EFTA women aren't attractive?`
`16:07.46`	`its-formi`	`EFTA?`
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`16:08.10`	`jason_ukfsn`	`European Free Trade Area?`
`16:08.19`	`jenson`	`Hi jason_ukfsn`
`16:08.24`	`jason_ukfsn`	`hi`
`16:09.15`	`its-formi`	`hi J*`
`16:09.27`	`Davilion`	`hi jenson`
`16:09.38`	`jenson`	`Heya Davilion`
`16:09.42`	`jenson`	`How are you?`
`16:09.58`	`jenson`	`hey formi`
`16:10.16`	`Davilion`	`jenson: im good thanks, getting a little more progress this afternoon`
`16:10.25`	`Davilion`	`i now have 124.5 machines up and running`
`16:10.42`	`jenson`	`Ah, well done Davilion`
`16:11.08`	`its-formi`	`not much of a ecologist are you`
`16:11.08`	`Davilion`	`in fact im quite pleased with myself, the room temp is now up to 26 degrees and the air con is kicking in nicely`
`16:13.44`	`Davilion`	`jenson: what you upto?`
`16:14.14`	`jenson`	`Davilion: Just hponing a mate, she wants to come guy hunting with me to then next gllug :P`
`16:14.19`	`jenson`	`^phoning`
`16:14.37`	`Davilion`	`heh cool.`
`16:14.52`	`jenson`	`heh, you gonna be there Davilion ?`
`16:15.12`	`Davilion`	`is anybody going to gatwick on thursday to the auction? i want to go pick my mum a laptop. Anybody else fancy a trip?`
`16:15.27`	`Davilion`	`jenson: heh, it depends how high my chances of getting a date are :P`
`16:15.30`	`its-formi`	`david, spud was planning to go`
`16:15.50`	`Davilion`	`cool. Any idea what prices i should pay for any of the stuff?`
`16:16.19`	`its-formi`	`spud seems to have experience going there`
`16:16.21`	`jenson`	`Davilion: Well depends, if you're looking for a date with either of my non computer orientated friends then pretty good, coz they're going to look at guys not computers lol`
`16:16.37`	`Davilion`	`lol`
`16:16.44`	`Davilion`	`are they cite`
`16:16.46`	`Davilion`	`cute?`
`16:17.08`	`its-formi`	`jenson: truly you might become friendless I you let them come with you`
`16:17.16`	`its-formi`	`jenson: truly you might become friendless if you let them come with you`
`16:17.16`	`Davilion`	`heh`
`16:17.19`	`jenson`	`Yeah Davilion: One of them is really cute, the other is OK`
`16:17.29`	`Davilion`	`jenson: i'll be there :P`
`16:17.35`	`jenson`	`Cool Davilion`
`16:18.14`	`Resudaed`	`evening again`
`16:18.21`	`Davilion`	`hi Resudaed`
`16:18.23`	`jenson`	`Hey Resudaed`
`16:18.31`	`its-formi`	`this is really sad, organising dates instead of bashing m$,`
`16:18.40`	`Resudaed`	`or afternoon, this whole darkness thing confuses the hel out of me`
`16:18.41`	`Davilion`	`Resudaed: RE: friday, my cars going to the car hospital during the day, so im not sure when i'll get it back so i can't definatly garentee you a lift.`
`16:19.01`	`Resudaed`	`ok, I'll try and think of something`
`16:19.20`	`Davilion`	`Resudaed: i can probably give you a lift, it just depends on what the mechanic says, its going in for exploritory surgery`
`16:19.38`	`Resudaed`	`my brain is still on RS232 related issues, so thinking ahead isn't realy a priority`
`16:20.17`	`jenson`	`Resudaed: I don't know how to think ahead lol.;`
`16:20.35`	`its-formi`	`rs232 is enough to let your data to come out of your brain, :-}`
`16:20.57`	`Resudaed`	`thinking about one thing, typing another :-P`
`16:21.03`	`its-formi`	`and not doing any of them properly?`
`16:21.32`	`Resudaed`	`hell no, my brain wasn't designed to cope with that much`
`16:21.50`	`Resudaed`	`hence 'speeling' mistakes`
`16:21.58`	`jenson`	`^brain`
`16:22.01`	`skugg`	`"sleep" that is`
`16:22.04`	`jenson`	`Hey skugg wake up lol`
`16:22.21`	`skugg`	`jenson, no! i need to do coursework :P`
`16:22.25`	`jenson`	`Resudaed If they call me a geek then you def are.`
`16:22.38`	`jenson`	`Oh go on then skugg, have fun catch ya latert`
`16:23.43`	`Resudaed`	`a geek who is having difficulty using newsgroups (no comments please :)`
`16:24.02`	`its-formi`	`use oldgroups`
`16:24.12`	`jenson`	`I don't use newsgroups Resudaed I don't like them`
`16:24.30`	`Resudaed`	`I just cannot work out why nothing is downloading`
`16:24.45`	`jenson`	`I gotta go home now`
`16:24.48`	`jenson`	`See ysa later`
`16:24.50`	`jenson`	`not sure when`
`16:24.52`	`jenson`	`but later`
`16:24.54`	`Resudaed`	`bye jenson`
`16:24.57`	`its-formi`	`safe journey`
`16:24.59`	`jenson`	`Byeeeeeeeeeeeeee`
`16:25.03`	`Tarragon`	`bye`
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`16:25.36`	`jason_ukfsn`	`hm,time to stop farting about and finish off some coding. cya all`
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`16:27.21`	`Resudaed`	`I'm going to go fry some sausages, be back in 20 (inc eating time)`
`16:27.53`	`its-formi`	`hi zach`
`16:28.31`	`zachary`	`hi formi`
`16:29.17`	`its-formi`	`did you get enough sleep?`
`16:30.21`	`zachary`	`3:30am - 10:00am. Not bad but I would like an earler bed time.`
`16:31.43`	`its-formi`	`have you read the email i sent to the list?`
`16:33.02`	`zachary`	`OT: 19V Power supply?`
`16:33.30`	`its-formi`	`yeap, any ideas?`
`16:34.39`	`zachary`	`I would be hesitant to use the 16V power supply. Let me take a look at some sites. Is it a standard connection?`
`16:35.08`	`its-formi`	`nearly, the tp conector is loose`
`16:35.25`	`zachary`	`Were you planning to upgrade the hard drive?`
`16:35.49`	`its-formi`	`it is basically the normal sound style jack, but the central stick is a bit thinner than usual`
`16:35.58`	`its-formi`	`not really why?`
`16:36.12`	`zachary`	`I have a spare 4gb 2.5" hd.`
`16:36.30`	`its-formi`	`how thin is it?`
`16:36.47`	`zachary`	`I believe no more than 9mm.`
`16:37.14`	`its-formi`	`I have been looking for one for my thinkpad, they were expensive so i bought a complete laptop and ...`
`16:37.51`	`murb`	`is anyone here going to be at the Shakespeare's Head in Holborn this evening?`
`16:37.57`	`its-formi`	`Would you swap it for my 3GB one?`
`16:39.03`	`Resudaed_Supper`	`murb, is it a pub?`
`16:39.51`	`Resudaed_Supper`	`although, saying that, if I was going to be there, I would already know (doh!)`
`16:40.37`	`zachary`	`Someone slap me upside the head for looking at an american site for a uk power supply. :-)`
`16:40.37`	`its-formi`	`i suppose it was just a ramdon thought comming out of his head for no apparent reason`
`16:42.31`	`zachary`	`brb`
`16:42.46`	`Resudaed_Supper`	`its-formi: 19V power supplies are asy to get hold of, just he adapter`
`16:42.57`	`Resudaed_Supper`	`s/asy/easy`
`16:43.22`	`its-formi`	`a bit of soldering should fix the connector`
`17:16.30`	`its-formi`	`see you folks`
`17:18.22`	`SpudULike`	`murb: Why, what's on at the Shakespears Head?`
`17:18.43`	`SpudULike`	`That's where the Rent-a-geek crowd met.`
`17:19.05`	`SpudULike`	`It is a pub that is sooooooooooooooooo easy to walk past.`
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`17:22.43`	`murb`	`SpudUlike: sage-wise xmas thing.`
`17:22.48`	`murb`	`including geek quiz`
`17:40.28`	`dank_work`	`Hometime. C'ya later`
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`17:46.20`	`aCilnv`	`re re ..`
`17:46.24`	`aCilnv`	`ppl awake ?`
`17:46.49`	`eye69`	`What's a schmuck on the list...`
`17:47.09`	`eye69`	`"GNOME is a far inferior Windows Manager to KDE, which you should use instead."`
`17:47.09`	`aCilnv`	`erm ?`
`17:47.18`	`aCilnv`	`lol ..`
`17:48.02`	`eye69`	`I don't mind him using KDE instead, but he can keep his opinions off the list, and especially when he posted only to say that.`
`17:48.18`	`eye69`	`The traffic is high enough as it is.`
`17:48.21`	`aCilnv`	`does anyone know where i can buy ( pref in the UK ) : the book : Securing & Optimizing Linux: The Hacking Solution (v3.0)`
`17:52.36`	`eye69`	`I can't find it specifically in the UK but http://www.linuxcentral.com/ seems to deliver to the UK.`
`17:55.05`	`aCilnv`	`erm .. yip .. been there eye .. but the shipping is more than the damn book !`
`17:55.24`	`eye69`	`amazon.com does it as well`
`17:58.48`	`aCilnv`	`checking the shipping cost now ...`
`17:59.51`	`zachary`	`brb in a few.`
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`18:34.30`	`zachary`	`Hi Jenson`
`18:35.04`	`Jenson`	`hi`
`18:36.10`	`Huhn`	`wb Jenson`
`18:36.41`	`Jenson`	`ty`
`18:36.52`	`Jenson`	`I didn't mean to logon here`
`18:36.58`	`Jenson`	`was a mstake`
`18:37.06`	`Jenson`	`^mistake`
`18:38.01`	`Jenson`	`How are you zachary and Huhn?`
`18:38.15`	`zachary`	`pretty good, and you?`
`18:38.28`	`Huhn`	`I'm fine, thanks, preparing for the party tonight, and you?`
`18:38.58`	`Jenson`	`Alright thank you?`
`18:39.06`	`Jenson`	`Party, was it one you told me about?`
`18:39.27`	`Huhn`	`not really :) we're going to install Debian on the machine of our friend ;)`
`18:39.37`	`Jenson`	`Oh installfest!`
`18:39.50`	`Huhn`	`yep, he has the beer, we have the Linux ;)`
`18:40.06`	`Jenson`	`I want a lan party, but that won't happen. i don't have a network card and no-one I know likes computers`
`18:40.14`	`zachary`	`sounds like fair compensation.`
`18:40.29`	`Jenson`	`Well if you like beer yeah`
`18:42.43`	`Jenson`	`I'd be fun at an installfest....I'd get thr job of formatting Windows off the disc and wouldn't be trusted with anything more technical.`
`18:43.30`	`Huhn`	`well, in this case.. he wants to keep the win installation :)`
`18:44.12`	`Huhn`	`have fun, murble ;)`
`18:44.35`	`Jenson`	`I would have kept mine, if the disc had been big enough. Instead I'm just keeping my old Win95 machine....I have Win98 on this anyway.....I couldn't contemplate trying to get my parents to master Slack, even Win seems beyoned them`
`18:44.40`	`Jenson`	`Hey murb`
`18:45.50`	`Jenson`	`Well much as I'd love to stay and chat, I must be going`
`18:45.55`	`Jenson`	`I'll be back later I hope.`
`18:46.19`	`Jenson`	`Bye guys (and girl)`
`18:46.35`	`Huhn`	`bye, Jenson`
`18:46.44`	`Jenson`	`bue Huhn`
`18:46.46`	`Jenson`	`^bye`
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`19:16.46`	`HuhnPARTY`	`bye`
`19:18.47`	`Leeds`	`bye`
`19:28.09`	`Tarragon`	`bye`
`19:48.35`	`Resudaed`	`evening all`
`19:50.20`	`Resudaed`	`should you have to mount an audio cd?`
`19:57.17`	`Leeds`	`no`
`19:57.28`	`Leeds`	`in fact, you probably can't mount an audio CD`
`19:57.37`	`Leeds`	`were you there on Saturday?`
`20:05.10`	`Resudaed`	`I was`
`20:05.48`	`Resudaed`	`it's just that none of the cd-playing software I can find can detect a cd in the drive`
`20:05.50`	`Leeds`	`did you speak to any of us? did you come to the pub? SpudUAway stood up and shouted for you at the end, I think...`
`20:06.46`	`Resudaed`	`I did, I was also at the uni, but I decided to leave the talks because they sounded a bit too techincal for someone of my knowledge`
`20:07.35`	`Leeds`	`really? Michael's talk was pretty gentle - and he's a good speaker...`
`20:07.42`	`Resudaed`	`I spoke to SpudUAway, murb, skugg, Tarragon, zimm & formi that I remember`
`20:08.09`	`Resudaed`	`and eye69 breifly`
`20:08.28`	`Resudaed`	`(may have been others but I don't remember them by nick or name)`
`20:08.37`	`Leeds`	`oh, fair enough... only because a couple of people asked me if I'd seen you...`
`20:08.57`	`Resudaed`	`didn't know that many people were interested`
`20:09.27`	`Resudaed`	`I will be there next month also, if you are there leeds, I will make a point of meeting you :-)`
`20:09.43`	`Resudaed`	`(I might even brave the talks)`
`20:09.49`	`Leeds`	`I'm planning to be one of the speakers - a beginner talk, so you'd better be there`
`20:10.01`	`Resudaed`	`def' will be then`
`20:10.23`	`Resudaed`	`not too beginner I hope, I'm at the intermediate/beginner stage now`
`20:10.27`	`Resudaed`	`:-)`
`20:10.40`	`Leeds`	`it's a follow-on talk - you should look at the slides for the first one`
`20:10.47`	`Resudaed`	`are they online?`
`20:11.11`	`Leeds`	`yup, hangon`
`20:13.14`	`Leeds`	`hmm.. can't find them`
`20:13.33`	`Resudaed`	`always the way isn't it`
`20:13.37`	`eye69`	`Evening`
`20:13.45`	`Resudaed`	`evening eye69`
`20:13.52`	`eye69`	`Hello Resudaed`
`20:13.59`	`Resudaed`	`sound card is up, just the tv tuner to go now :)`
`20:14.12`	`Resudaed`	`and cd-audio thingie`
`20:14.13`	`eye69`	`Cool`
`20:16.00`	`Leeds`	`hmmm... that's what I thought... bugger`
`20:16.55`	`Resudaed`	`you deleted them? ... had them on a machine you've fdisked to the maximum extent? ... you never had them?`
`20:17.36`	`Leeds`	`someone else seems to have deleted them...`
`20:17.44`	`Tarragon`	`Well he did have them because I saw them... once...`
`20:18.01`	`Resudaed`	`* wasn't me * :-)`
`20:20.02`	`Leeds`	`they were on an old machine I used to use - I never got around to moving them off when I dropped the account on the machine, and it looks like someone else has killed the account (or at least the website)`
`20:20.20`	`Leeds`	`I've put them back up at http://ipaq.vmlinuz.org/gllug/`
`20:21.12`	`Tarragon`	`Wow that was quick typing.`
`20:21.46`	`Leeds`	`:-)`
`20:23.20`	`Leeds`	`Resudaed: beginner enough for you? :-)`
`20:23.34`	`Resudaed`	`thanks ... looking`
`20:24.24`	`Leeds`	`I know, I see you`
`20:24.40`	`Resudaed`	`you see me?`
`20:25.41`	`Tarragon`	`You could be watching me`
`20:26.50`	`Leeds`	`true`
`20:27.05`	`Leeds`	`when I give someone a URL on my site, I tend to watch them in the logs`
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`20:41.13`	`Resudaed`	`Leeds, stupid question, but how do I find out what shell I am running from kd?`
`20:41.18`	`Resudaed`	`kd=kde`
`20:41.31`	`Resudaed`	`ie the 'shell emulator' button`
`20:41.52`	`quinophex`	`echo $SHELL`
`20:42.16`	`Resudaed`	`easy question = easy answer :-)`
`20:42.27`	`quinophex`	`if thats what you mean`
`20:42.40`	`Resudaed`	`yes, I'm running bash then`
`20:42.41`	`quinophex`	`if you mean which terminal emulator are you running thats a bit different`
`20:43.21`	`Resudaed`	`not too bothered which emulator, makes little/no difference to me (semi-ignorant user)`
`20:43.44`	`quinophex`	`i find they are all down to preference a bit`
`20:43.57`	`quinophex`	`not really found one that is impossible to use in an "oh sh*t" moment`
`20:44.21`	`Leeds`	`unlike shells...`
`20:44.44`	`Resudaed`	`always tty2 :-)`
`20:45.00`	`Leeds`	`tty2?`
`20:45.25`	`quinophex`	`its always fun when you find you are logged in on someones shell and they have bound ^C to something else`
`20:45.31`	`Resudaed`	`in the case of an "oh sh*t" moment with X (had a few of those)`
`20:46.00`	`Leeds`	`or, in fact, running csh`
`20:46.02`	`Resudaed`	`never quite managed to find a nice resolution/refresh balance on anything above 1024x768`
`20:46.24`	`quinophex`	`hehe, well we only run csh at work`
`20:46.28`	`quinophex`	`which is really annoying`
`20:46.41`	`quinophex`	`as i get up use bash, then have to switch to csh then back to bash in the evenings`
`20:46.52`	`Resudaed`	`(my monitor & gfx card should both be quite happy with 1280x1024, but too many other things to fix before I get on to that)`
`20:46.52`	`quinophex`	`and after a weekend i keep doing silly things on a monday`
`20:47.03`	`Leeds`	`all our builds are done in csh for some reason... but I live in bash`
`20:47.24`	`quinophex`	`the best bit about work is we have some sh scripts too`
`20:47.31`	`quinophex`	`just to mix things up even more`
`20:47.34`	`Leeds`	`Resudaed: perfectly normal for a Linux user...`
`20:47.50`	`Resudaed`	`does csh have anything to do with 'sh' ?`
`20:47.59`	`Leeds`	`quinophex: I spent a year working in an extremely obscure varient of ksh`
`20:48.04`	`quinophex`	`guh`
`20:48.16`	`quinophex`	`i worked with that at the police for only a few months`
`20:48.30`	`quinophex`	`on DataGeneral Aviions running DG/UX`
`20:48.33`	`Leeds`	`actually working on shell scripts - many 1000s of lines of shell script`
`20:49.00`	`Leeds`	`a commercial UNIX install system`
`20:49.36`	`quinophex`	`but wants to watch more flames on the gllug list first`
`20:49.45`	`Resudaed`	`having fixed the soundcard issue some ... music should help with the rest`
`20:50.24`	`Resudaed`	`ah yes, time to fix FreeBSD on the gateway next :)`
`20:50.45`	`Resudaed`	`(been running with 2 NIC's in my machine for far to long)`
`20:50.50`	`Resudaed`	`s/to/too`
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`20:51.10`	`Resudaed`	`evening davilion`
`20:51.26`	`eye69`	`I bought openbsd to use it on my gateway, only to find that it doesn't even install on it`
`20:51.55`	`Resudaed`	`ouch :), I am 90% sure FreeBSD will work on mine, pretty bog standard hardware`
`20:52.07`	`Resudaed`	`(old 3Com/RTL NIC's on a P75)`
`20:53.38`	`Resudaed`	`and I stop trying to work out how to get my spectrum on the network :)`
`20:54.32`	`Resudaed`	`I only want to ping it, then I'll be satisfied :-)`
`21:16.52`	`Resudaed`	`I don't believe it!!! put a processor that's been kicking around my bedroom floor for months into a random mother board, it works!`
`21:17.23`	`Resudaed`	`excpet I don't actually have a spare keyboard :-(`
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`21:50.31`	`highbury`	`hi`
`21:52.10`	`zachary__`	`hi highbury`
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`21:56.59`	`eye69`	`Hi zach`
`21:57.07`	`Jenson`	`Hey guys`
`21:57.22`	`eye69`	`Hey Jen`
`21:57.43`	`Jenson`	`hey eye69`
`21:57.44`	`zachary__`	`hi all`
`21:58.09`	`Davilion`	`hi Leeds`
`21:58.12`	`Davilion`	`hi Jenson`
`21:58.15`	`Leeds`	`hi all`
`21:58.21`	`Jenson`	`Hey Davilion how are you?`
`21:58.26`	`Jenson`	`Hey Leds`
`21:58.32`	`Jenson`	`^Leeds`
`21:59.15`	`Leeds`	`on the other hand, I'm eating pizza at the same time...`
`21:59.25`	`Jenson`	`Ah, have fun Leeds...can I have some pizza?`
`21:59.27`	`Davilion`	`Leeds: Oopos what happened?`
`21:59.30`	`eye69`	`Leeds: Why?`
`21:59.56`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: I am very well thank you, my computers have been breeding just nicely, on my desk, i now have 4 moniitors, two laptops, 2 keyboards anda mouse`
`21:59.58`	`zachary__`	`virtual pizza, yum.`
`22:00.04`	`Davilion`	`under my desk i now have 1 pc, 3 sparcs, and a laptop`
`22:01.20`	`Leeds`	`for Limmud`
`22:02.06`	`Jenson`	`hehehe virtual pizza time.`
`22:02.35`	`Davilion`	`hmm, i soooo need broadband`
`22:02.46`	`Jenson`	`Me too Davilion`
`22:02.56`	`Davilion`	`i also need sheets that stay on the bed and don't get stuck to me and hurled onto the floor when i get fed up`
`22:03.18`	`cupis`	`Jenson: why are you not too happy?`
`22:03.19`	`Leeds`	`my ADSL died last night - until this evening... I really missed it`
`22:03.25`	`Jenson`	`Davilion: Find someone to share the ved with and remove the sheets anyway`
`22:03.42`	`Jenson`	`^bed`
`22:03.50`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: I'm trying to find somebody to share the bed with but not having much success`
`22:04.01`	`Davilion`	`im just going to give in and glue the sheets down or something`
`22:04.20`	`Leeds`	`that's what thermal do-dah is for`
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`22:05.18`	`Jenson`	`Davilion: I could find you some hazardous materials`
`22:05.41`	`Davilion`	`i dont know whats wrong with me today, i'e had the worst songs stuck in my head.`
`22:05.55`	`Jenson`	`Me too Davilion`
`22:06.06`	`Leeds`	`listening to shitty commercial radio?`
`22:06.10`	`Jenson`	`Hey dankolb`
`22:06.43`	`Davilion`	`MC Dynamite i can handle, pitchshifter please sir was ok for a while then i got very fed up of it. The the sugababes, i didnt even hear that song today.`
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`22:07.00`	`Jenson`	`Davilion: After all do you want hazard materials near your bed.`
`22:07.11`	`Jenson`	`wb dankolb_`
`22:07.41`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: it depends what types of hazard :)`
`22:08.06`	`Jenson`	`Davilion: Don't count me in, I'm not a hazard, not to anyone but myself`
`22:08.29`	`Davilion`	`i've got to watch with cleaners and spirits, theres nothing worse than waking up in the morning with a mouth like ghandi's flip flop reaching over, grabbing the first bottle that comes to hand and spitting out a mouthful of methylated spirits`
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`22:09.39`	`Jenson`	`dankolb: Does BT hate you tonight?`
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`22:11.10`	`dankolb`	`4th time lucky?`
`22:11.10`	`dankolb`	`Good idea`
`22:11.56`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: heh, tesco value cola is soo bad, its good :)`
`22:12.22`	`Jenson`	`lol Davilion....that can apply to a few things......no dirty thoughts`
`22:13.30`	`Davilion`	`heh. i got smashed on everclear and coop savers cheap dodgy irn bru once it was great didnt need to shake it to make it flat or anytging`
`22:14.38`	`Jenson`	`I wonder with some of the things you drink how you are still alive Davilion`
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`22:15.42`	`Davilion`	`me too :)`
`22:16.55`	`Jenson`	`I sirprised a mate of mine today....looked at some cables, said 'surge protector' he's like HTF you know that I've been doing IT at college for a year.....I didn't point out they had a big label on...`
`22:17.28`	`Jenson`	`He's all excited that he's getting XP next week.`
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`22:18.06`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: heh.`
`22:18.09`	`dankolb__`	`6th time?`
`22:18.15`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: you should send him off for political reeducation`
`22:18.18`	`Jenson`	`ibot lart BT`
`22:18.35`	`Davilion`	`dankolb__: you can't win with bt, many have tried, many have failed, if you complain they just kick you off for using their anytime service anytiem.`
`22:18.45`	`dankolb`	`Fine by me.`
`22:18.50`	`Jenson`	`I think doing that to some people would be damn good fun, ty to ibot`
`22:18.53`	`dankolb`	`I'm getting ADSL in the next couple of weeks. Touch wood.`
`22:18.56`	`Jenson`	`It isn't BT it's your modem`
`22:19.18`	`dankolb`	`I don't give a fuck whose problem it is. It doesn't bloody work.`
`22:19.37`	`Jenson`	`Good point`
`22:20.18`	`Jenson`	`hehehe cool guy msged me on facepic......complete with a picture of him armed with a copy of Slack`
`22:33.10`	`Davilion`	`hmmm, anybody compiled mplayer?`
`22:33.40`	`Leeds`	`many times`
`22:33.49`	`Davilion`	`how longs it likely to take on a p266?`
`22:34.06`	`Davilion`	`fairly basic compile, not many codecs just ffmpeg`
`22:34.19`	`Leeds`	`about twice as long as on my box, and 50%-75% of the time on an iPAQ...`
`22:34.24`	`Leeds`	`:-)`
`22:34.29`	`Davilion`	`:)`
`22:34.35`	`Davilion`	`how long does it take on yours?`
`22:34.36`	`Leeds`	`completely random guess - 10 mins, maybe?`
`22:34.47`	`dankolb`	`Hi Leeds`
`22:34.48`	`Davilion`	`cool, not long then`
`22:35.05`	`Davilion`	`i've only compiled it at work before, and compile times there are stupidly fast.`
`22:35.17`	`Leeds`	`hey, dankolb`
`22:35.42`	`Leeds`	`it takes a long time on an iPAQ...`
`22:37.47`	`Davilion`	`all done`
`22:38.43`	`Davilion`	`yay, it works, i need to do some buts and pieces to get it to work properly but it will do for now`
`22:39.19`	`Leeds`	`Jenson: I prescribe duvet`
`22:39.45`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: Duvet upstairs, computer here.`
`22:40.25`	`cupis`	`Jenson: move duvet downstairs`
`22:40.46`	`cupis`	`or give in to the sleepiness :)`
`22:41.02`	`Jenson`	`Who do I collect that from Davilion?`
`22:41.07`	`Jenson`	`Or that cupis`
`22:41.18`	`Jenson`	`So do I Leeds, but that's my slack system`
`22:41.23`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: muself of course :P`
`22:41.26`	`Leeds`	`Jenson: your local chemist should have stocks of hugs at this time of year... they're needed`
`22:41.37`	`Jenson`	`Awwwww Davilion you're such a sweety :)`
`22:43.26`	`Davilion`	`:">`
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`22:50.39`	`dankolb`	`Depends if you need it`
`22:51.07`	`Davilion`	`depends how nice your doctor is i guess`
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`22:51.31`	`Jenson`	`Of course I need a hug (not in any sexual way I might add)`
`22:51.33`	`Jenson`	`Hey NisoDaemon`
`22:51.38`	`dankolb`	`Hi NisoDaemon`
`22:51.43`	`NisoDaemon`	`My timing rocks`
`22:51.47`	`dankolb`	`:-)`
`22:51.50`	`Davilion`	`hi NisoDaemon`
`22:51.53`	`NisoDaemon`	`Hi Dav`
`22:52.04`	`NisoDaemon`	`Every one killfiled the new troll on gllug yet? ;)`
`22:52.16`	`dankolb`	`Which new Troll? Neil?`
`22:52.27`	`NisoDaemon`	`Sudhir Anand`
`22:52.45`	`dankolb`	`Ah. About GNOME being sucky compares to KDE?`
`22:52.58`	`Leeds`	`well, that's what he started with`
`22:53.04`	`NisoDaemon`	`And the "but friends i not retoort if you not agree."`
`22:53.14`	`NisoDaemon`	`His thread is pretty long...`
`22:53.23`	`Leeds`	`I liked Neil's "I've been a sysadmin for 4 years - now I want to be a developer"`
`22:53.30`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`22:53.31`	`NisoDaemon`	`Tet and Mallum did try to be nice.`
`22:53.31`	`Jenson`	`I like KDE....but I've never used GNOME`
`22:53.43`	`dankolb`	`I haven't read that much of the thread yet.`
`22:53.45`	`NisoDaemon`	`Leeds: judging on his SA questions his doomed as a coder...`
`22:53.54`	`Leeds`	`NisoDaemon: my point exactly :-)`
`22:54.12`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jenson dont mention gnome vs KDS in front of Sun employees.`
`22:54.18`	`NisoDaemon`	`;)`
`22:54.24`	`Leeds`	`Jenson: how does one do a Scottish accent on IRC?`
`22:54.28`	`Leeds`	`NisoDaemon: why not?`
`22:54.53`	`NisoDaemon`	`Well, you are pretty firly in the Gnome camp. And you've yet to kill java :)`
`22:54.54`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: I wouldn't know.`
`22:54.54`	`dankolb`	`DOOOOOOMED!`
`22:55.02`	`Jenson`	`No not DooM dankolb`
`22:55.07`	`Leeds`	`WE'RE ALL DOOMED!`
`22:55.09`	`NisoDaemon`	`We're all dooomed`
`22:55.09`	`dankolb`	`<accent type='scottish'>Doomed!</>`
`22:55.12`	`Davilion`	`<fx locale='en_sc' idol='mishmoneypenny'>Do you shoot the beasht</>`
`22:55.17`	`Jenson`	`Oh right`
`22:55.20`	`Jenson`	`I'm catching up`
`22:55.20`	`Jenson`	`lol`
`22:55.24`	`Jenson`	`Sorry being slow`
`22:55.30`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav needs a life ;)`
`22:56.13`	`Leeds`	`en_sc??? surely gb_sc?`
`22:56.23`	`Jenson`	`Yeah`
`22:56.35`	`Davilion`	`Leeds: erm yes, thats better.`
`22:57.06`	`Leeds`	`I like the fact that there's a Welsh pack for Mozilla, but no English-UK :-)`
`22:57.52`	`NisoDaemon`	`Leeds is that the one that adds random vowels to all your URL's?`
`22:58.07`	`Leeds`	`heh`
`22:58.56`	`dankolb`	`NisoDaemon: No. It strips them out.`
`22:59.01`	`dankolb`	`And doubles all the l's`
`23:01.42`	`NisoDaemon`	`Anyone here used balance or mod_backhand in a real enviroment?`
`23:03.37`	`eye69`	`Not me. Doesn't seem all that useful.`
`23:03.53`	`eye69`	`I'd rather use LVS or some other load balancer.`
`23:04.02`	`NisoDaemon`	`LVS? hang on...`
`23:04.15`	`Jenson`	`Sleep seems rather useful right now...I'll go in a few.`
`23:04.17`	`eye69`	`Isn't those modules for load balancing?`
`23:04.37`	`NisoDaemon`	`Not seen that one before, thanks eye`
`23:05.03`	`eye69`	`NisoDaemon: I used LVS in a live environment handling our US streamers...worked perfectly.`
`23:05.13`	`Jenson`	`Ahhhh Leeds.`
`23:05.17`	`eye69`	`NisoDaemon: linuxvirtualserver.org I think`
`23:05.19`	`NisoDaemon`	`US?`
`23:05.28`	`NisoDaemon`	`URL is http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/`
`23:05.34`	`NisoDaemon`	`looks promising`
`23:05.36`	`Leeds`	`isn't that nice... I got a mail from Stella to tell me "Finally, absolutely the best, 100% FREE DAILY SEX GALLERIES for your private eyes only!"`
`23:05.36`	`dankolb`	`Is that ipvsadm?`
`23:05.42`	`eye69`	`dankolb: Yeah.`
`23:05.52`	`Jenson`	`Lovely Leeds`
`23:06.03`	`dankolb`	`Ah yes. We're using that.`
`23:06.06`	`Leeds`	`complete with "HOT GROUP, HARDCORE OR LESBO ACTION"`
`23:06.12`	`dankolb`	`Well, we would be if the software worked properly :)`
`23:06.24`	`eye69`	`NisoDaemon: I used the Ultramonkey package for configuring. It has a quite nice Perl based thingie which automatically reloads your configuration when you've changed it.`
`23:06.31`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: Whereas I get 'COPY YOUR DVD'S FOR FREE' every day`
`23:06.31`	`dankolb`	`ipvsadm works - it's collaboration that doesn't`
`23:06.40`	`Leeds`	`copying DVDs is easy...`
`23:07.03`	`Davilion`	`mount: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to receive`
`23:07.07`	`Davilion`	`erm, any idea what i didnt do?`
`23:07.17`	`NisoDaemon`	`Eye, i was hpoing to find one defacto tool, and now i have a bundle of pages to read :)`
`23:07.21`	`Leeds`	`Davilion: run the portmapper?`
`23:07.27`	`eye69`	`NisoDaemon: Heh.`
`23:07.35`	`Jenson`	`lol Leeds I could make that suggestion`
`23:08.06`	`Leeds`	`Jenson: see, you have learnt something here :-)`
`23:08.37`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: Even if I haven't learnt much of slack, I have learnt things about Win that I didn't know`
`23:08.43`	`Davilion`	`nope, done a /etc/init.d/portmap, nfs-common, start on both machines, and nfs-server ont he server and still same problem`
`23:09.23`	`zachary`	`Spent the last 5 minutes catching up on my reading and now I have to go. Well nice not chatting with everyone. Need to get some sleep before my daughter wakes up again. bye`
`23:09.26`	`Davilion`	`and now when i use the correct ip address`
`23:09.35`	`Jenson`	`Bye zachary`
`23:09.36`	`Davilion`	`mount: RPC: Program not registered`
`23:09.49`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav try a rpcinfo -p host and see if that shows what you think it should`
`23:09.58`	`eye69`	`zachary: Have a good one`
`23:10.13`	`Leeds`	`NFS is too easy not to use`
`23:10.18`	`Jenson`	`What's RPC?`
`23:10.24`	`NisoDaemon`	`remote procedure call`
`23:10.25`	`dankolb`	`Remote Procedure Call`
`23:10.31`	`Davilion`	`rpcinfo -p 192.168.10.254`
`23:10.33`	`Jenson`	`Ah ty`
`23:10.33`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:10.33`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:10.33`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:10.53`	`Jenson`	`I like this chat I can ask things without feeling I'm meant to know.`
`23:11.00`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav shouldnt NFS show up on that list?`
`23:11.12`	`Leeds`	`generally, RPC as a specific protocol, rather than a class of protocol, refers to the Sun-developed version used for NFS`
`23:11.21`	`eye69`	`You can try 'showmount -e <server>'`
`23:12.00`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:12.03`	`Davilion`	`mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered`
`23:12.11`	`Davilion`	`nothing in the logs`
`23:12.11`	`Leeds`	`ps aux \| grep rpc`
`23:12.55`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:12.56`	`Davilion`	`484`
`23:13.05`	`Davilion`	`Iolaus:~# pgrep rpc`
`23:13.06`	`Davilion`	`166`
`23:13.06`	`Davilion`	`751`
`23:13.06`	`Davilion`	`753`
`23:13.18`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jenson if you install the search bar from http://www.dqsd.net/ you get dozens of searchs from the taskbar in windows including www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/`
`23:13.33`	`Leeds`	`okay, that's a list of pids - bloody useless...`
`23:13.42`	`Leeds`	`how about showing what's actually running?`
`23:14.01`	`Jenson`	`Iolaus....cute guy from Hercules`
`23:14.12`	`Davilion`	`:)`
`23:14.31`	`Davilion`	`Iolaus:~# ps aux \|grep rpc`
`23:14.31`	`Davilion`	`root 166 0.0 0.2 1444 692 ? S 00:33 0:00 /sbin/rpc.statd`
`23:14.31`	`Davilion`	`root 751 0.0 0.2 1676 688 ? S 02:27 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd`
`23:14.31`	`Davilion`	`root 753 0.0 0.2 1672 692 ? S 02:27 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd`
`23:14.31`	`Davilion`	`root 786 0.0 0.1 1324 424 pts/0 S 02:35 0:00 grep rpc`
`23:14.31`	`Davilion`	`Iolaus:~#`
`23:14.37`	`Davilion`	`thats on the server`
`23:15.03`	`Leeds`	`and if you run showmount -e on the server it fails?`
`23:15.06`	`Davilion`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:15.07`	`Davilion`	`root 484 0.0 0.4 1388 512 ? S 20:10 0:00 /sbin/rpc.statd`
`23:15.07`	`Davilion`	`root 4237 0.0 0.3 1292 448 pts/3 S 21:59 0:00 grep rpc`
`23:15.13`	`Davilion`	`thats on the local machine`
`23:15.39`	`NisoDaemon`	`Xena takes itself seriously, Herc is more of a laugh...`
`23:15.40`	`NisoDaemon`	`Honest`
`23:15.41`	`Jenson`	`I hate Xena...big butch lesbian`
`23:15.41`	`Davilion`	`# showmount -e 192.168.10.254`
`23:15.43`	`Davilion`	`mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered`
`23:15.49`	`Jenson`	`Herc is better`
`23:16.08`	`Leeds`	`is the portmapper running on the client?`
`23:16.14`	`Jenson`	`or Angel and Buffy :P`
`23:16.18`	`Jenson`	`or spike`
`23:16.21`	`Davilion`	`i got a whole load of buffy/angel/other cool stuff episodes at the weekend`
`23:16.23`	`Jenson`	`Or spike angel and buffy`
`23:16.28`	`Jenson`	`Oh an Willow`
`23:16.33`	`Jenson`	`And Faith`
`23:16.34`	`NisoDaemon`	`Leeds shes geekbait...`
`23:16.39`	`NisoDaemon`	`jenson thats sick`
`23:16.49`	`Leeds`	`NisoDaemon: cute Jewish geek girl :-)`
`23:16.52`	`Jenson`	`What is NisoDaemon`
`23:17.01`	`NisoDaemon`	`Spike Angel and buffy at once`
`23:17.10`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: Jewish heritage....Wiccan geek gurl.....or hacker/cracker`
`23:17.11`	`Leeds`	`Davilion: tangent isn't here`
`23:17.11`	`NisoDaemon`	`Or was that an innocent comment i misread? :)`
`23:17.20`	`Jenson`	`lol no NisoDaemon you read it right`
`23:17.27`	`Leeds`	`eh - she's Jewish... and she's not done any hacking for a while`
`23:17.43`	`NisoDaemon`	`Leeds shes jewish with cruxifies pinned to her wall.`
`23:17.52`	`Jenson`	`To keep Angel out`
`23:17.56`	`Jenson`	`about 4 series back`
`23:18.03`	`NisoDaemon`	`Yep. Geek!`
`23:18.10`	`NisoDaemon`	`Series 2`
`23:18.16`	`NisoDaemon`	`After he killed the goldfish`
`23:18.32`	`NisoDaemon`	`http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm?term=rpc`
`23:18.36`	`Jenson`	`My mate goes to me today 'you ain't a geek'`
`23:18.39`	`Jenson`	`I says I am`
`23:18.43`	`Jenson`	`He says I'm not`
`23:18.51`	`Jenson`	`I says you know geek is a compliment right`
`23:18.55`	`Jenson`	`He says nothing...`
`23:19.00`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jenson anyone who is sad enough to argue that they are a geek is a geek.`
`23:19.11`	`Jenson`	`lol NisoDaemon good point`
`23:19.17`	`Leeds`	`http://studiesinwords.de/`
`23:19.35`	`Jenson`	`Anyone who goes to Tesco with a seethrough bag with a copy of Slack in it is a geek`
`23:19.51`	`Leeds`	`Jenson: no. Anyone who goes to Tesco with a Slackware t-shirt on...`
`23:19.54`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: Depends what it's apint of (dankolb no milk jokes, that suddenly isnb't funny)`
`23:20.01`	`Jenson`	`Leeds: I want one`
`23:20.02`	`Jenson`	`lol`
`23:20.10`	`dankolb`	`Why not funny?`
`23:20.31`	`Leeds`	`http://store.slackware.com/ except I was given one :-)`
`23:20.34`	`Jenson`	`Well ok it is funny`
`23:20.37`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav you getting "mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered"`
`23:20.47`	`Leeds`	`and a penguin too`
`23:20.49`	`NisoDaemon`	`I get that when i try to connect to a server with no exports`
`23:24.17`	`Davilion`	`hmm`
`23:24.19`	`Davilion`	`sorted it`
`23:24.24`	`Leeds`	`mmm... milk jugs`
`23:24.32`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav: How?`
`23:24.34`	`dankolb`	`A pair of milk jugs?`
`23:24.37`	`Davilion`	`stupid /etc/exports had a stupid nonprunting char in it which hosed it all`
`23:25.04`	`NisoDaemon`	`nonprunting character? Not seen one of them before ;)`
`23:25.08`	`Leeds`	`Davilion: been using a silly editor?`
`23:25.14`	`NisoDaemon`	`Yeah emacs`
`23:25.46`	`*** join/#gllug Jenson_ (Jenson@host62-7-115-84.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`23:26.02`	`Leeds`	`don't tell me she missing the jokes...`
`23:26.18`	`NisoDaemon`	`Leeds jokes is a bit of an overstatement ;)`
`23:26.40`	`Jenson`	`Fucking BT that wasn't meant to boot then`
`23:26.45`	`Jenson`	`That was 1hr 30`
`23:26.54`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jeonson you on dialup?`
`23:27.28`	`Jenson`	`yeah`
`23:27.36`	`Davilion`	`leeds probably`
`23:27.52`	`NisoDaemon`	`Do you ever have problems resolving names to ips using BTs DNS servers?`
`23:28.00`	`Davilion`	`yes`
`23:28.10`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav its not just me then`
`23:28.21`	`NisoDaemon`	`The servers go apeshit once a week or so`
`23:29.06`	`Jenson`	`Sometimes IE goes apeshit....forcing me to use Netscape`
`23:29.08`	`Jenson`	`or Moz`
`23:29.51`	`Jenson`	`Fucking hell I'm getting foo all over the floor`
`23:29.54`	`NisoDaemon`	`seems to be mostly at weekends, sudaynight is common. Wonder if they do upgades sunday night.`
`23:29.58`	`Jenson`	`Why does my dad hoover inhere lol`
`23:30.02`	`Jenson`	`^food`
`23:30.04`	`Jenson`	`not foo`
`23:30.20`	`Jenson`	`NisoDaemon: You mean when we should be asleep and arent?`
`23:30.36`	`NisoDaemon`	`Pretty good description that ;)`
`23:30.46`	`Jenson`	`Like now...`
`23:30.53`	`NisoDaemon`	`I have ten minutes yet`
`23:31.09`	`NisoDaemon`	`Leave it leeds`
`23:55.18`	`*** join/#gllug ibot (ibot@rikers.org)`
`23:55.18`	`*** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk`
`23:55.22`	`NisoDaemon`	`hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha`
`23:55.24`	`Leeds`	`ibot welcome`
`23:55.24`		`Leeds: are you smoking crack?`
`23:55.27`	`Jenson`	`I have 3 lol`
`23:55.31`	`Leeds`	`NisoDaemon: teenage girl, remember...`
`23:55.40`	`Davilion`	`lmao`
`23:55.43`	`Leeds`	`they're all the same...`
`23:55.44`	`Jenson`	`I've had them years lol`
`23:55.57`	`Davilion`	`Jenson: i can't believe you admit to that lol`
`23:56.00`	`dankolb`	`ibot welcome back`
`23:56.01`		`It's great to be back!`
`23:56.04`	`Jenson`	`I have Spice Girls albums too.....although they were brought for me not by me.`
`23:56.17`	`NisoDaemon`	`Yeah Jenson we beleave yoou`
`23:56.26`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav: explain = mandy moore - candy remix.mp3 You cant hide`
`23:56.27`	`Jenson`	`It's true NisoDaemon`
`23:56.28`	`Davilion`	`suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure`
`23:57.07`	`NisoDaemon`	`Jenson so your not sd enough to buy Spice girls but you are admitting to hanson...`
`23:57.31`	`Jenson`	`NisoDaemon: You obviously never had the decent Hanson albums...`
`23:57.36`	`NisoDaemon`	`http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a01`
`23:57.39`	`Jenson`	`I have 18 Aerosmith albums too lol`
`23:57.59`	`Jenson`	`Oh I've seen that NisoDaemon`
`23:58.07`	`Leeds`	`http://ipaq.vmlinuz.org/playlist in case anyone gives a shit`
`23:58.11`	`Leeds`	`it's not complete...`
`23:58.12`	`NisoDaemon`	`I like the sniper one :)`
`23:58.21`	`NisoDaemon`	`Dav is hiding in embaresment :)`
`23:58.49`	`Leeds`	`that list is all from phyiscal CDs I own :-)`
`23:59.07`	`Jenson`	`Oh, that narrows mine down to less embarrasing stuff lol`
`23:59.09`	`NisoDaemon`	`leeds: Sting_-_Englishman_In_New_York.ogg goodchoice`
`23:59.23`	`Davilion`	`Leeds: some good stuff there`
`23:59.36`	`NisoDaemon`	`jenson when you try and mp3 Handson does the computer shutdown in protest? ;)`
`23:59.47`	`Leeds`	`http://ipaq.vmlinuz.org/noa has a few tracks from Noa, who's the Israeli singer I really like...`

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