| 00:00.29 | *** join/#gllug inmost (~inmost@du--0121.access.clara.net) |
| 00:00.31 | inmost | i just installed xmame and everytime i execute xmame pacman (or any other game) i get a message sayin "Using a Visual with a depth of 16bpp" but the game does not play. why is it? i could not find the answer in the docs/faq |
| 00:00.50 | dankolb | What's your screen depth? |
| 00:01.12 | Jenson | Isn't it customary to say hi first? |
| 00:01.20 | resudaed | it suspends everything but the hdd which you do manually by fressing fn-f4 |
| 00:01.33 | dankolb | Jenson: Of course not |
| 00:01.44 | resudaed | hos is the f anywhere near the p ?? |
| 00:01.52 | resudaed | bollox I cannot type |
| 00:01.57 | Jenson | In which case then dankolb NuqneH |
| 00:02.04 | Leeds | inmost: what is your screen depth? |
| 00:02.13 | Jenson | resudaed: join the masses lol |
| 00:02.20 | davilion | hmm dammit why wont my webcam stream :(( |
| 00:02.50 | inmost | 1024x768 |
| 00:02.53 | resudaed | because there is a new internet ban on x-rated webcam streams |
| 00:02.58 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:03.03 | Leeds | inmost: that's not your depth... |
| 00:03.13 | dankolb | How many bpp |
| 00:03.44 | resudaed | that was resolution, bpp will be a number like 8,16,24,32 etc |
| 00:03.58 | resudaed | forgot 4 :-) |
| 00:04.01 | davilion | resudaed:heh |
| 00:04.03 | Leeds | 2 |
| 00:04.10 | Leeds | or even 1 :-) |
| 00:04.15 | dankolb | 0 :) |
| 00:04.23 | resudaed | very true, my laptop is 1 |
| 00:04.36 | Jenson | Guys, being over geekish all of a sudden....you should be asleep lol |
| 00:04.40 | resudaed | (forgot to mention:-)) |
| 00:04.52 | dankolb | Jenson: Yes. Go to bed then. We'll follow |
| 00:04.53 | inmost | i run X at 16bit |
| 00:05.05 | Jenson | dankolb: no doubt :P |
| 00:05.20 | Leeds | inmost: when you say "the game does not play", what happens? *exactly*? |
| 00:05.47 | dankolb | Uhhuh |
| 00:05.48 | Leeds | I've never had that kind of problem with xmame, and I think I'm still technically a maintainer of it... |
| 00:06.06 | inmost | i execute xmame pacman (or any other game) i get a message sayin "Using a Visual with a depth of 16bpp" and that is it. |
| 00:06.09 | resudaed | ooh |
| 00:06.42 | inmost | nothing happens, i just do not see the game on the screen |
| 00:06.51 | inmost | i get nothin |
| 00:06.56 | resudaed | random question, was there every a 4 bit colour depth? |
| 00:07.08 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 00:07.08 | dankolb | 16 colours |
| 00:07.08 | resudaed | doh, not 4, I mean 2 |
| 00:07.08 | dankolb | Default VGA |
| 00:07.12 | dankolb | Black & White |
| 00:07.20 | resudaed | that's 1 bit though |
| 00:07.34 | resudaed | (or are we talking black, white and 2 shades of grey?) |
| 00:08.20 | Leeds | inmost: you just run "xmame pacman"? you have downloaded the game, right? |
| 00:08.38 | dankolb | 4-colour.... |
| 00:08.52 | inmost | yes i have the roms |
| 00:09.22 | inmost | Leeds: i had mame before running on redhat 7.3 on 16bit and now after doing a fresh install of redhat8 and installing the lastest rpms for redhat8 it does not work |
| 00:09.48 | Leeds | you're running xmame from RPM? ugh... I don't like binary distribution... |
| 00:10.55 | Leeds | in fact, I'm going to grab the up-to-date one and build it now :-) |
| 00:11.23 | Jenson | I really better go |
| 00:11.34 | Jenson | on account of I finished whay I was doing 45 mins ago |
| 00:11.55 | Leeds | Jenson: did you get it to boot? |
| 00:12.21 | Jenson | I'm going to look at it tommorrow Leeds. Although I may not be back on chat til Thursday |
| 00:12.39 | dankolb | Busy tomorrow? |
| 00:12.50 | Leeds | that's simply not good enough! the ongoing saga of Jenson-and-Slack must continue! |
| 00:12.57 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:13.02 | Jenson | I will be here at luch |
| 00:13.05 | Jenson | and at 3:30 |
| 00:13.12 | Jenson | and most likely a little while in the evening |
| 00:13.27 | resudaed | jenson isn't the only one having trouble with slack, I can't get into my bios to boot from floppy |
| 00:13.28 | Leeds | that's alright then... |
| 00:14.00 | Jenson | lol lazy |
| 00:14.06 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 00:14.16 | Jenson | I was going guys |
| 00:14.18 | Leeds | I like sirc... nice, small, simple cmd-line client |
| 00:14.24 | Jenson | quit fucking distracting me |
| 00:14.29 | Jenson | I lie XChat |
| 00:14.32 | Jenson | ^like |
| 00:14.36 | Jenson | I hate MSCHAT |
| 00:14.37 | resudaed | if anyone feels so inclined to help, it's a Grid 1450sx, bios is Phoenix 80386sx plus v1.10.00 |
| 00:14.44 | Jenson | I can deal with PIRCH |
| 00:15.48 | Jenson | Right then I really am going |
| 00:15.49 | Jenson | See ya |
| 00:15.49 | Leeds | resudaed: http://www.firmware.com/support/bios/setupdsk.htm any good? |
| 00:15.53 | Leeds | nighty, Jenson |
| 00:16.31 | Jenson | Night Leeds |
| 00:16.43 | dankolb | night Jenson |
| 00:16.53 | Jenson | night dankolb |
| 00:17.05 | davilion | night night |
| 00:17.06 | Leeds | night John-boy |
| 00:17.10 | Leeds | ouch! |
| 00:17.14 | Leeds | hit me again! :-) |
| 00:18.59 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:19.07 | Jenson | poor Leeds |
| 00:19.12 | Jenson | someone kiss it better for him. |
| 00:19.17 | dankolb | He's just playing for sympathy... |
| 00:19.20 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:19.37 | Jenson | This channel must have be so normal before I got here. |
| 00:19.46 | Jenson | owwww my butt is numb lol |
| 00:19.52 | Jenson | I was sliding down the seat |
| 00:20.43 | Jenson | anyway.... |
| 00:20.44 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-1-105-57.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 00:20.49 | Leeds | here come the bounces... I just fired off a program to send about 250 mails for a charity thingy |
| 00:20.58 | dankolb | SPAM |
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| 00:21.15 | dankolb | So she's left. We once again return to normalcy |
| 00:21.20 | resudaed | opps |
| 00:21.35 | Leeds | resudaed: did you look at that page? |
| 00:21.56 | resudaed | kind of went to put disk in floppy drive that was sitting on top of graphics card, sparks flew, speakers popped and everything went quiet |
| 00:22.09 | Leeds | lovely :-% |
| 00:22.12 | resudaed | which page? |
| 00:22.35 | resudaed | (probably after I left unexpectidly) |
| 00:22.56 | Leeds | http://www.firmware.com/support/bios/setupdsk.htm |
| 00:24.18 | dankolb | What were you expecting? IE? |
| 00:24.25 | resudaed | yet has been using netscape 7 for weeks |
| 00:24.59 | Tarragon | Is there a difference? |
| 00:25.08 | resudaed | yeah, 7 looks nicer |
| 00:25.29 | resudaed | thanks leeds |
| 00:26.51 | dankolb | Right. I'm off to sleep, as sson as this laptop reboots |
| 00:27.03 | resudaed | am now copying file to disk labeld 'windows 95 disk 12' |
| 00:27.40 | Tarragon | Leave the laptop until morning - let it cool down for once. |
| 00:28.04 | dankolb | Would you like some of mine? |
| 00:28.20 | Tarragon | are |
| 00:28.22 | Leeds | I've got 8 bounces in 138 mails so far |
| 00:28.41 | dankolb | Hmm. Even Slackware is getting more bloated :-/ |
| 00:29.06 | Leeds | dankolb: you just noticed? |
| 00:29.18 | dankolb | I haven't installed it for a couple of years... |
| 00:29.26 | davilion | right, email gone, whcih means its bed time |
| 00:29.27 | davilion | later guys |
| 00:29.36 | dankolb | Last install was 7.0. Then it was just upgraded |
| 00:29.40 | dankolb | To something pre-8.1 |
| 00:30.19 | dankolb | Yay. It works! |
| 00:30.36 | dankolb | And so to bed |
| 00:30.37 | dankolb | g'night |
| 00:33.08 | *** part/#gllug inmost (~inmost@du--0121.access.clara.net) |
| 00:47.42 | resudaed | thankful for a good speaker setup |
| 00:52.19 | Leeds | huh, what? |
| 00:52.28 | resudaed | good morning leeds |
| 00:52.32 | Leeds | morning... |
| 00:55.21 | resudaed | it seems most of us go to bed at some point |
| 00:56.47 | Leeds | I'm working on the report (including bounces) from the charity spam I've been sending |
| 00:57.50 | resudaed | nobody likes a spammer, although if all spammers were charities, they may be looked upon differently :-) |
| 00:58.00 | Leeds | it's not really spam :-) |
| 00:59.09 | resudaed | I have deleted all email accounts because of 'true' spam, although now discovering I need one, was thinking of using my own machine as the mail server |
| 00:59.22 | Leeds | I'm one of a three-member elite crime-fighting team, aka the tech team for a Jewish charity which is largely focussed on a huge (1800+ people) over Christmas |
| 00:59.53 | resudaed | you never do anything on a small scale do you? |
| 01:00.15 | Leeds | the spam is to people who said they wanted to present sessions at the conference, telling them when their session has been timetabled and so on, and asking them to contact the office if they need it moving |
| 01:00.32 | resudaed | how about assisting in setting up a mail server focused on 1 user :-) |
| 01:00.55 | Leeds | is it for a good Jewish cause? |
| 01:01.10 | resudaed | I have a jewish friend who may want to email me :-) |
| 01:01.46 | resudaed | does that count ? |
| 01:03.12 | Leeds | well, not really... |
| 01:03.36 | resudaed | :) |
| 01:04.12 | Leeds | one of the things we (the team) have done is move a bunch of stuff onto our own box (we're mates, and we have a hosted box between us) so we have control :-) |
| 01:05.41 | Leeds | there are about 300 presenters for the conference, and over 750 sessions over 5 days - it runs from 8am to 1am - it's a hell of a lot of fun and work (for the volunteers) |
| 01:05.49 | resudaed | one of the things I have done is failed to understand a word of the sendmail docs |
| 01:06.10 | Leeds | the org only employs one permanent full-time employee, and one temp in the run-up to the conference to do admin - everything else is volunteers |
| 01:06.57 | Leeds | what are you trying to do with sendmail? |
| 01:07.21 | resudaed | not sure, I just want to be able to send-mail |
| 01:07.38 | resudaed | and recv, but I am not sure if that is part of sendmail |
| 01:08.05 | Leeds | yup, it is... |
| 01:08.22 | resudaed | ahah, progress, that saves learning another program |
| 01:08.25 | Leeds | with sendmail, if the default doesn't work, and you need to change anything significant, you're in very very deep magic |
| 01:08.55 | Leeds | sendmail will receive, but you probably want to use procmail (or something similarly featureful) to deliver |
| 01:09.19 | resudaed | ok, I am assuming I just start the sendmail service ..? |
| 01:09.41 | Leeds | what distro? |
| 01:09.47 | resudaed | RH 7.2 |
| 01:11.39 | resudaed | ok, sendmail is now running ... what happens when mail is sent to user@mydomain.com (mydomain = my box) |
| 01:11.40 | Leeds | I have no idea how sanely setup that is by default... |
| 01:13.55 | resudaed | basically, all I want is to have is an SMTP and a say POP3 service running that I can access through IP |
| 01:15.04 | resudaed | I was writing my own in VB3 (easier to port than newer versions), but I just want basic services for now |
| 01:15.19 | Leeds | VB3????? |
| 01:15.30 | resudaed | yep, runs butifully under wine |
| 01:15.44 | resudaed | ^beautifully |
| 01:15.54 | resudaed | forget the speeling :) |
| 01:15.57 | Leeds | funny man |
| 01:16.07 | Leeds | *please* tell me you're a funny man and you're not serious? |
| 01:16.32 | resudaed | no joke, vb3 runs perfectly, and I have done a lot of work with sockets in it |
| 01:16.57 | Leeds | you're seriously talking about running network services on a Linux box with a VB program running under WINE? |
| 01:18.08 | resudaed | no, I am eventually going to re-write it, but my c++ is nowhere near good enough for that yet |
| 01:18.13 | Leeds | C++? |
| 01:18.28 | Leeds | Python would do fine... or Perl... or shell if you're nuts... but VB3? |
| 01:18.36 | Leeds | and you *really* don't need to write your own... |
| 01:19.05 | resudaed | no, but if I write my own, I feel proud |
| 01:19.20 | Leeds | okay... |
| 01:19.23 | resudaed | I worte quite a nice http server in QBASIC |
| 01:19.41 | resudaed | (3rd party sockets library though) |
| 01:19.41 | Leeds | and I thought the guy writing his own iPAQ GUI in tcl/TK was nuts |
| 01:21.32 | resudaed | you never met me then :) |
| 01:21.39 | Leeds | true... |
| 01:22.44 | resudaed | my perl and c++ are still only at basic levels, I would not feel confident in writing a network service in them yet |
| 01:23.11 | Leeds | so you don't actually mind your mail being very very flaky? |
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| 08:50.16 | dank_work | Morning |
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| 10:12.22 | davilion_work_go | morning all |
| 10:22.52 | dank_work | Hi davilion |
| 10:26.42 | davilion | right, im off to acton to dismantle a cluster |
| 10:26.43 | davilion | back later |
| 10:27.03 | dank_work | Have fun |
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| 10:56.56 | dank_work | Hi Leeds |
| 10:57.31 | Leeds | morning... |
| 10:58.18 | dank_work | I'm trying to clone two machines over the network. |
| 10:58.27 | dank_work | And it's giving me a hell of a lot of grief |
| 10:58.44 | dank_work | Ghost doesn't want to boot ('error truncating file' while loading the network drivers) |
| 10:59.02 | dank_work | We have SpeakEasy CDs. They don't have ssh, rsh, or netcat |
| 10:59.24 | Leeds | no idea... |
| 11:00.23 | Leeds | not the kind of thing I do... |
| 11:00.41 | dank_work | Downloading Toms Rootboot - that should have at least ssh onto it. |
| 11:00.48 | dank_work | Fun with piping dd over ssh |
| 11:01.18 | dank_work | dd if=/dev/hda | ssh foo@bar dd of=/dev/hda |
| 11:01.49 | Leeds | lovely :-) |
| 11:02.06 | Leeds | but is it 100% clean? |
| 11:02.16 | dank_work | WDYM? |
| 11:02.53 | Leeds | if there's a <return>~ sequence in the bytestream, will SSH see it as a command? |
| 11:03.30 | dank_work | Hopefully not |
| 11:03.46 | Leeds | not that I'm not using something similar for backups, now that I think of it... |
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| 11:17.27 | Leeds | morning... |
| 11:17.39 | jenson | Morning Leeds |
| 11:18.04 | Leeds | should I go to work? |
| 11:18.20 | Leeds | I can't really be bothered... |
| 11:18.27 | jenson | Is work going to be more interesting or productive than what you're doing now? |
| 11:19.09 | Leeds | well, I'm working now... just at home |
| 11:19.18 | jenson | Stay at home then |
| 11:19.52 | Leeds | maybe I'll go in after lunch... |
| 11:20.00 | jenson | but just maybe lol |
| 11:21.31 | Leeds | I don't really want to get into the habit of not going in... but I can't be bothered today (may have something to do with the lifts in the office being turned off because of the fire strike...) |
| 11:21.47 | jenson | Yeah stay at home |
| 11:22.12 | jenson | Anyway I'd love to stay and chat but I've got to go |
| 11:22.17 | jenson | Should be back about 12:30 though |
| 11:22.31 | Leeds | seeya... |
| 11:22.34 | jenson | seeya |
| 11:22.36 | *** part/#gllug jenson (~jenson@64.246.28.105) |
| 11:39.27 | dank_work | Damn. Missed her. |
| 11:40.11 | Leeds | too busy working... |
| 11:40.29 | dank_work | Yes. |
| 11:40.44 | dank_work | I was in the server room, getting Toms RootBoot booted up, and cloning disks with dd and netcat |
| 11:43.14 | Leeds | ah, netcat... better than ssh for this, I think |
| 11:43.24 | dank_work | Yes. Especially as Toms doesn't have ssh |
| 11:43.29 | dank_work | It has rsh, but no rsh daemon |
| 11:44.23 | Leeds | sensible enough |
| 11:50.25 | dank_work | Aye. |
| 11:50.52 | dank_work | We had some random recruiter phoning our server room. |
| 11:53.52 | Leeds | we get mails send around every now and again saying "Someone calling himself <name> is calling random people trying to find out who they work for and when - if they call you, tell them nothing!" |
| 11:54.08 | Leeds | apparently our org chart is world real money to recruiters and/or the competition |
| 11:54.22 | dank_work | Really? |
| 11:54.36 | dank_work | How come? |
| 11:55.40 | Leeds | well, it would tell the competition where we're concentrating people, and if they know the names of certain engineers, they can tell if something has lots of senior people working on it |
| 11:56.03 | dank_work | Ah right |
| 11:56.13 | Leeds | and I guess for recruiters it might tell them where people are likely to be interested in moving? |
| 11:57.10 | dank_work | I suppose |
| 11:57.29 | dank_work | Grrr. Bloody sendmail log files filling up the disk. Logrotate should have taken care of that. Can I blame Debian? |
| 11:57.53 | Leeds | of course! |
| 11:58.07 | dank_work | Good! |
| 11:58.11 | dank_work | ibot insult Debian |
| 11:58.17 | Leeds | I need to do something with rotating logs - we haven't got anything on our hosted box, and /var/log/messages is starting to get big... |
| 11:58.19 | dank_work | Excellent :) |
| 11:58.29 | dank_work | rm /var/log/messages? :) |
| 11:58.36 | Leeds | richardc@butter:~$ ls -l /var/log/messages |
| 11:58.37 | Leeds | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 293829172 Nov 27 12:02 /var/log/messages |
| 11:58.37 | Leeds | richardc@butter:~$ uptime |
| 11:58.37 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.54 | Leeds | that's 10.5 months worth of log :-) |
| 11:58.56 | dank_work | umname -a ! |
| 11:59.05 | dank_work | Err. uname, even |
| 11:59.38 | Leeds | Linux butter 2.4.16 #2 Fri Jan 11 15:34:34 GMT 2002 i686 unknown |
| 11:59.52 | Leeds | apart from running a kernel with a local DOS in it, why ask? |
| 11:59.56 | dank_work | Was 2.4.16 released almost a year ago? |
| 12:00.05 | dank_work | Just OOI |
| 12:00.19 | Leeds | richardc@butter:~$ cat /etc/slackware-version |
| 12:00.19 | Leeds | 8.0.0 (åtta) |
| 12:00.30 | Leeds | with a newer kernel to get support for the IDE card we put in it |
| 12:00.38 | dank_work | I'm sure that was released < 1 year ago, wasn't it? |
| 12:00.46 | dank_work | Or has time just passed rather quickly? |
| 12:01.56 | Leeds | that kernel was put into place on 11/01/2002 |
| 12:02.07 | Leeds | I don't *think* it was a pre-release... |
| 12:02.13 | Leeds | but it was patched for the IDE driver |
| 12:02.29 | Leeds | I'm pretty impressed by that uptime :-) |
| 12:03.09 | dank_work | So am I. I didn't think 2.4.16 was out that long ago :) |
| 12:05.42 | Leeds | well... it was. |
| 12:06.49 | Leeds | so there. |
| 12:09.24 | dank_work | :-P |
| 12:17.20 | dank_work | I obviously had so much fun in the last year that time went so fast |
| 12:18.00 | Leeds | hah |
| 12:18.10 | dank_work | Indeed. Either that, or exams |
| 12:18.52 | Leeds | I remember them :-) |
| 12:19.16 | dank_work | Well, you're not that much older than me :) |
| 12:20.57 | dank_work | Yay! First time that a serial port Just Bloody Works |
| 12:20.59 | Leeds | I graduated over 4 years ago... |
| 12:21.21 | dank_work | Not that long... |
| 12:22.36 | Leeds | long en ough |
| 12:23.27 | dank_work | :) |
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| 12:33.43 | jenson | Hey guys |
| 12:33.50 | dank_work | Hiya |
| 12:34.09 | dank_work | Do both |
| 12:34.29 | Leeds | multi-tasking! |
| 12:34.31 | jenson | I'm not allowed to eat in the computer room, this being a primary school |
| 12:34.37 | Leeds | oh, and drinking... I just made myself a pint of Ribena |
| 12:34.40 | jenson | Men can't multitask |
| 12:34.47 | dank_work | dd'ing an 18Gb drive over nc is slow |
| 12:34.58 | dank_work | Are you a man, then? |
| 12:35.18 | jenson | Well you're welcome to check dan |
| 12:35.22 | jenson | :P |
| 12:35.24 | dank_work | I might just do... |
| 12:35.40 | Leeds | men can multitask, it's multi-something else we don't do |
| 12:35.55 | Leeds | type-ahead-find is pretty cute |
| 12:36.23 | jenson | multilink? unifix (which reads too much like unix for my brain) |
| 12:36.32 | jenson | playdough lol |
| 12:37.01 | Leeds | nah, we can multi-link... |
| 12:37.17 | jenson | How long does it take to install slackware, (if i manage to do it right) |
| 12:37.34 | dank_work | Give it a couple of hours if you haven't done it before |
| 12:37.51 | jenson | I've got about 2 hours in which I'll have to eat aswell |
| 12:37.53 | dank_work | I like doing individual package selection, so it takes me a bit longer than if I did a straight easy install |
| 12:38.00 | jenson | Then I won't be at home again til Thurs eveniing |
| 12:38.36 | dank_work | Going out tonight? |
| 12:38.53 | jenson | Going to see my granny for tonight and tomorrow |
| 12:38.57 | dank_work | Cool |
| 12:38.58 | jenson | will be home about 5 on thurs |
| 12:39.09 | Leeds | if you do an 'install everything', it's stupidly easy... |
| 12:39.10 | dank_work | I won't be around on Thursday until late. |
| 12:39.17 | dank_work | Going to Oxford, have a curry |
| 12:39.39 | Leeds | I did it on a machine at work when I just needed a machine and couldn't be bothered to set it up properly... |
| 12:39.56 | jenson | Have to get out of bed about 6am on saturday coz i'm going with my dad to wacth a parachute jump lol |
| 12:40.07 | dank_work | Whoo |
| 12:40.45 | Leeds | going to watch a jump? |
| 12:41.12 | jenson | Yeah Leeds: my dads training manager, the apprentices are doing a jump for charity or something |
| 12:41.31 | jenson | ^dad's a |
| 12:42.28 | Leeds | cool... and I bet it's cheaper than firing them |
| 12:42.51 | jenson | lol |
| 12:43.15 | dank_work | back |
| 12:43.19 | jenson | wb |
| 12:43.26 | dank_work | thanks |
| 12:43.35 | dank_work | Grrr. It would have taken another 10 minutes to finish this dd |
| 12:43.45 | Leeds | but? |
| 12:43.50 | dank_work | Bloody impatient people want the system running NOW! |
| 12:43.55 | dank_work | DAMMIT! NEED ACCESS! WAAAAA! |
| 12:44.01 | jenson | That would be non-tech people I guess... |
| 12:44.02 | Leeds | users? screw'em |
| 12:44.07 | dank_work | Testers. |
| 12:44.14 | dank_work | Just another 10 bloody minutes. |
| 12:44.17 | dank_work | Oh no. Can't do that. |
| 12:44.19 | Leeds | I do not speak on behalf of my employer... yada yada :-) |
| 12:44.32 | dank_work | Of course, I didn't know it would have been another 10 minutes until I cancelled dd |
| 12:44.36 | Leeds | ugh |
| 12:45.44 | Leeds | why are there two people on the GLLUG list discussing where to get a RedHat CD in India? |
| 12:45.49 | jenson | Actually I'd hate to be an admin, the amount of times I whinged at the admin at my school |
| 12:46.36 | jenson | Admin took me off the network once for installing a program, I insisted I had no idea where it came from and how it got on my username and they believed me |
| 12:46.41 | dank_work | :-) |
| 12:47.05 | Leeds | argh, no Moz 1.2 source yet... time to fire up CVS :-) |
| 12:47.53 | Leeds | one of my mates at Uni got banned from the network... we were walking down a corridor and he was boasting how he'd broken into somewhere... we then noticed that the admin was walking along behind us... |
| 12:48.01 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:48.05 | jenson | I'm lust glad in year 11 the teacher didn't m,ake me listen to instructions in IT like I had to in year 10. I mean some of us don't need to be told how to open Word and use page setup but I had a teacher who made me listen to instructions for like 30 mins |
| 12:48.15 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:48.18 | jenson | But in year 11 I'd usually finished before it had been explained lol |
| 12:48.21 | Leeds | lust glad? |
| 12:48.26 | jenson | ^just |
| 12:48.27 | Leeds | :-) |
| 12:48.30 | jenson | not lust lol |
| 12:48.33 | dank_work | freud? |
| 12:48.39 | Leeds | dank_work: I think so... |
| 12:48.43 | dank_work | Yes |
| 12:48.52 | dank_work | We're a bad influence on her |
| 12:48.58 | Leeds | what's year 11 in real speak? |
| 12:49.09 | dank_work | Year 5 for you old-schoolies |
| 12:49.17 | Leeds | ah, right... |
| 12:49.18 | jenson | Yeah year 5 |
| 12:49.27 | jenson | Although year 5 was when I was 10 |
| 12:49.47 | jenson | When I had mastered how to type just about even if I couldn't write neatly |
| 12:49.56 | Leeds | at that point, people were coming to me for help rather than the teacher... we were doing BBC BASIC at the time... |
| 12:50.39 | jenson | Bloody physics teacher one lesson ikn year 11 said. 'I'll be upstairs ask her if you need help with attachment's |
| 12:50.41 | jenson | meaning me lol |
| 12:50.50 | dank_work | Woo! We were taught BBC BASIC at primary school |
| 12:50.54 | dank_work | Then they got Archs |
| 12:51.30 | Leeds | I was doing 6052 asm at that point, for fun... the teacher told me I couldn't use it in my project because she wouldn't be able to mark it... |
| 12:51.42 | jenson | Bloody hell I just got told 'Hannah's rubbed some of the work of the board'........WTF am I expected to do about it. |
| 12:51.51 | dank_work | Rub it back on |
| 12:51.56 | jenson | Have you guys been geeks since you were born? |
| 12:52.10 | dank_work | Well, since I was 4, which is when I got my first computer (which I still have) |
| 12:52.18 | jenson | Cool |
| 12:52.19 | Leeds | my parents bought me a speccy when I was about 8... the rest is history |
| 12:52.37 | Leeds | I should point out that when I was 8, dank_work was 4 :-) |
| 12:52.38 | jenson | We got our first computer at home when I was 11 |
| 12:52.54 | jenson | But my mother used to bring them home during school holidays |
| 12:53.01 | dank_work | So, if I was 4, jenson would have been about 6 months to 1 year old |
| 12:53.08 | Leeds | aw, diddums |
| 12:53.10 | jenson | I'd soon learnt how to get into Windows 3.0 but I'm not sure who told me |
| 12:53.31 | Leeds | 3.0??? 3.0??? we had Windows 2 and we were happy! |
| 12:53.40 | Leeds | (Yes, I'm a Yorkshireman) |
| 12:53.43 | jenson | 3.0 was the first Win I met |
| 12:54.27 | Leeds | it must have been around 1990 when I first used Windows... |
| 12:55.20 | jenson | Ahhh bugger I ought to go to tescos |
| 12:55.37 | jenson | I'll mjust see if my mother wants anything if not I CBA |
| 12:56.40 | Leeds | http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~kkoster/microsoft/chronology.html |
| 12:57.22 | jenson | Dammit I'm not going to get time to install slackware tonight |
| 12:57.24 | jenson | Shit |
| 12:57.27 | dank_work | Aww |
| 12:57.30 | jenson | or tomorrow I shouldn't think |
| 12:57.35 | jenson | Friday afternoon it is then |
| 12:58.14 | Leeds | it'll wait... |
| 12:58.24 | Leeds | we won't, but Slack will... |
| 12:59.11 | jenson | lol |
| 12:59.19 | dank_work | Fucking firewalls. |
| 12:59.26 | jenson | awww kill mit dan |
| 12:59.28 | jenson | ^it |
| 12:59.29 | dank_work | I HATE LINUX FOR FIREWALLING |
| 13:00.34 | Leeds | so use something else |
| 13:00.49 | dank_work | Yeah, but Pj likes Linux. |
| 13:00.59 | dank_work | I hate it (for firewalls) |
| 13:01.12 | dank_work | iptables is too fucking complicated |
| 13:01.32 | jenson | ewww it's that damn breast enhancement ad..on yahoo i mean |
| 13:01.48 | Leeds | it's easy for easy things... I've never done anything complex with it |
| 13:01.56 | dank_work | Why should I trawl through 5 pages of absolute gibberish and still have no clue as to what's going on |
| 13:02.00 | dank_work | Give me ipf any day |
| 13:02.11 | dank_work | Half a page to do the same stuff. And it just works. |
| 13:02.40 | dank_work | I can do it in about 1 hour. |
| 13:02.51 | dank_work | Took about 3 days to work out what the fuck was going wrong with iptables |
| 13:02.58 | jenson | Leeds: have you gone to work yet or are you still at home? |
| 13:03.07 | Leeds | jenson: still working at home |
| 13:04.24 | jenson | Actually I could install Slack tonight I just don't think my granny or my parents would appreciate me taking the computer with me for less than 24 hrs away from home lol |
| 13:06.56 | Leeds | are you in that much of a hurry? |
| 13:07.05 | jenson | No Leeds |
| 13:07.14 | jenson | I just have a habit of hurrying and doing things wrong |
| 13:07.51 | jenson | It's taken me years to convince my parents I can install anything without using the manual after the amount of programs I installed wrong when I was about 12 |
| 13:08.07 | jenson | They say I don't read instructions |
| 13:08.25 | jenson | Now they don't say anything. If I say something they don't understand they leave me alone |
| 13:09.38 | Leeds | sounds sensible... |
| 13:10.11 | jenson | Although no-one in the house understand how to tune the new vido lol |
| 13:10.15 | jenson | ^video |
| 13:10.20 | jenson | I think I messed up the autoset |
| 13:14.41 | jenson | Well then I'm going now |
| 13:14.43 | jenson | see ya later |
| 13:14.48 | dank_work | C'ya |
| 13:14.50 | jenson | should be back at 3:30 if not before |
| 13:15.08 | jenson | and Leeds stay and work at home hten no-one will bother you |
| 13:15.41 | Leeds | I did say I was going to go in this afternoon... maybe |
| 13:17.31 | Leeds | oooh :-) |
| 13:18.01 | jenson | Anyway I'm still here lol |
| 13:18.06 | jenson | See ya later guys |
| 13:18.27 | dank_work | Hmmmm :) |
| 13:18.31 | jenson | Byeeeeeeeeee |
| 13:18.35 | jenson | See ya at 3:30 I hope |
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| 13:19.07 | dank_work | Leeds: Apparently Solaris 9 for x86 has appeared on Sun's download site. How stable is it? |
| 13:20.20 | Leeds | dunno about stability in a performance-type environment, but we've been running it on our build boxes for a long long time |
| 13:20.27 | dank_work | That's good |
| 13:20.30 | Leeds | SunOS atlantic 5.9 Generic i86pc i386 i86pc |
| 13:20.37 | Leeds | that's the machine I'm currently working on :-) |
| 13:21.00 | Leeds | and I've got a Dell PC under my desk running it too |
| 13:22.15 | Leeds | you have to remember that it was never really cancelled... it just wasn't 'productised' i.e. made into a product - manufacturing and support didn't really deal with it, but engineering pretty much kept going as is |
| 13:25.01 | dank_work | Fair enough. We were considering getting it to play with here. |
| 13:25.23 | Leeds | the main issue is likely to be hardware support - the HCL hasn't changed much in the past 18 months or so |
| 13:33.51 | Leeds | I like this song... "Monday Monday Monday" |
| 13:35.12 | dank_work | :-) |
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| 13:45.10 | unclex | hello guys |
| 13:45.12 | Leeds | formi? |
| 13:45.28 | unclex | yes |
| 13:45.38 | unclex | hi leeds |
| 13:45.43 | unclex | just testing |
| 13:45.46 | Leeds | ibot change 20.97 usd to gbp |
| 13:45.55 | Leeds | how's life on the other side of Europe? |
| 13:46.06 | unclex | hold on |
| 13:46.17 | Leeds | ibot change 24.47 to gbp |
| 13:46.25 | Leeds | ibot change 24.47 usd to gbp |
| 13:46.31 | formi | lo |
| 13:46.45 | formi | this is a test |
| 13:46.51 | Leeds | it's working... |
| 13:47.17 | formi | just checking |
| 13:47.22 | formi | something |
| 13:47.57 | formi | I have to go now |
| 13:48.01 | formi | cya |
| 13:51.48 | Leeds | how nutty is this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2518151.stm |
| 13:55.21 | dank_work | Errr. Dead Ringers also mocks his intelligence |
| 13:56.13 | Leeds | do their ads? |
| 13:56.46 | dank_work | Their ads poke fun at David Dickinson |
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| 14:47.52 | Leeds | how's things? |
| 14:48.13 | jenson | Ok thanks Leeds. you at work yet? |
| 14:49.14 | Leeds | nope... |
| 14:49.18 | Leeds | but I'm still working... |
| 14:49.25 | jenson | Ah good |
| 14:49.28 | Leeds | working at home is dangerously easy :-) |
| 14:49.58 | jenson | Unless we distract you, then you aren't really working |
| 14:50.25 | Leeds | well, true... |
| 14:50.32 | Leeds | or unless I get Limmud calls/emails through |
| 14:50.39 | dank_work | Yes. There's no-one to talk to here Leeds :) |
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| 15:24.55 | dank_work | :) |
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| 15:37.39 | jenson | Hey dav |
| 15:37.59 | dank_work | Hi |
| 15:38.49 | jenson | Not that it matters now but I was 14 when we got the internet |
| 15:39.11 | jenson | AHHHHHHHHHHHH why do people insist ont working on the server/workstation |
| 15:39.16 | jenson | If it crashes I'll scream |
| 15:46.33 | jenson | when I finally escaped you guys to eat that was |
| 15:47.42 | jenson | Yeah, always a good way to introduce oneself lol |
| 15:48.44 | jenson | oops |
| 15:48.48 | jenson | Did I forget to whisper that |
| 15:49.18 | dank_work | ibot insult David Damerell |
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| 15:50.19 | jenson | ibot lart this damn server |
| 15:51.21 | jenson | I've just realized I've pu 85MB of stuff on this computer when I'm not meant to be installing anything |
| 15:53.09 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:53.47 | dank_work | And yes, you forgot to /msg the 'always a good way to introduce oneself' |
| 15:53.50 | dank_work | D'oh |
| 16:01.29 | Leeds | just had long, somewhat existential chat with a mate - started as catching up on Limmud stuff, and got... deeper |
| 16:02.14 | Leeds | not hugely deep - just into why he has a mental block on coding |
| 16:02.46 | jenson | Deeper usually means talking about sex Leeds....but I should have guessed that it didn't |
| 16:02.55 | Leeds | he's married and I'm single... |
| 16:03.01 | Leeds | we steer clear... |
| 16:03.43 | jenson | Yeah sex not really a good subject if you are the single one is it. |
| 16:03.58 | Leeds | BTW, Limmud is at www.limmud.org if you want to know what the hell I'm talking about |
| 16:04.03 | jenson | but it's getting dark |
| 16:04.05 | jenson | and cold |
| 16:04.31 | jenson | Jewishness I see |
| 16:05.10 | Leeds | how close are you to Tescos? |
| 16:05.20 | jenson | About 5 mins walk Leeds |
| 16:06.04 | Leeds | ah - do it :-) |
| 16:06.33 | jenson | But it's cold, and I don't actually need chocolate |
| 16:07.29 | Leeds | what do you mean "don't need chocolate"? I thought it was a gender-based chemical need? |
| 16:07.47 | jenson | That would make computers a gendered based need too |
| 16:08.39 | Leeds | yes, and? |
| 16:09.34 | jenson | I'm not a man though so that makes either you guys or me weird |
| 16:09.43 | Leeds | yes, and? |
| 16:09.44 | Leeds | :-) |
| 16:10.08 | jenson | Yeahbut which of us is weird? |
| 16:10.17 | Tarragon | Oh Er I need both! Must be the split personality |
| 16:11.19 | jenson | Tarragon: Yeah, assuming you aren't bisexual, that accounts for most things |
| 16:15.58 | Tarragon | Only at weekends when the dress is back from the cleaners. |
| 16:16.28 | jenson | That's transexual Tarragon, that's different |
| 16:17.23 | jenson | By the way Tarragon how old are you I don't think I've ever asked |
| 16:18.11 | Tarragon | Errm old enough to be your uncle! |
| 16:18.21 | Leeds | um, that's transvestite, not transexual |
| 16:18.28 | Leeds | not that I'd know... |
| 16:18.36 | dank_work | "Just a sweet transvestite..." |
| 16:18.45 | Leeds | got the tape in the car :-) |
| 16:18.49 | jenson | Yeah that's what I mean lol |
| 16:19.00 | jenson | What I meant was that it wasn't the same as bisexual |
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| 16:19.54 | jenson | Hey highbury |
| 16:20.11 | highbury | hi guys ... and gals |
| 16:20.14 | Tarragon | Wearing a dress and kissing men - Nope seem similar to me sat in a very small village where we know everyone. |
| 16:20.25 | dank_work | Hi highbury |
| 16:20.42 | Tarragon | Morning highbury |
| 16:20.53 | jenson | Tarragon: Can't uncles be any age as long as they are older? |
| 16:21.11 | dank_work | How? Installing Slackware? ;-) |
| 16:21.12 | highbury | uncles can be younger |
| 16:22.23 | highbury | somehow it thought I had sufficient X-Server installed to run with my rather old graphics card, but I actually needed the xglint module to support permedia 2 chipset |
| 16:22.28 | Tarragon | OK - old enough that my memory is going, although I can remember Andy Pandy the first time around. |
| 16:23.40 | highbury | All I have left to fix is try and get ext3 back working the way I want, then I'm migrating from this system 8.0 to the new 8.1 system. Also I need to compare which rpm's I may have forgottent to install. |
| 16:26.50 | Tarragon | My mind says I can still play rugby at a weekend like and eighteen year old. My body knows that even at eighteen I was not fit enough. |
| 16:27.13 | Tarragon | highbury - does 8.1 have locate loaded by default? |
| 16:27.42 | Leeds | I actually played rugby at 18... not any moe |
| 16:28.02 | highbury | no, you must select "findutils-locate" |
| 16:30.26 | Leeds | Tarragon is old... |
| 16:30.52 | jenson | owwwwwww I shouldn't pick people up lol, If I stopped using the computer for a while I probably wouldn't have repetitive strain injury of some type though |
| 16:31.06 | jenson | Leeds you said you were old lol |
| 16:31.08 | highbury | wow, I've not booted intyo my default system for a day and 257 messages are downloading from one of my mailservers |
| 16:31.48 | Tarragon | I think I am the oldest here, but always a newbie. |
| 16:31.55 | Leeds | jenson: he's older than me... |
| 16:32.39 | jenson | Tarragon: I'm one of the youngest, and the girliest |
| 16:33.36 | Leeds | she's even girlier than SpudUAway... |
| 16:33.55 | Tarragon | Does that count on weekends as well? |
| 16:35.30 | Leeds | SpudUAway doesn't tend to giggle... |
| 16:36.27 | Tarragon | ROFL - OK highbury you win. |
| 16:39.30 | jenson | Well guys I have to go |
| 16:39.36 | jenson | See ya later hopefully |
| 16:39.41 | jenson | If not then tomorrow night |
| 16:39.42 | Tarragon | Bedtime? |
| 16:39.45 | jenson | No |
| 16:39.54 | jenson | I'm going into town now and I won't be home this evening |
| 16:40.02 | Tarragon | LOL |
| 16:40.10 | jenson | Well I'll be at my granny's I might go onlione while I'm there |
| 16:40.21 | jenson | I should slap you for suggesting it was bedtime lol |
| 16:40.31 | Leeds | say hello to gran from us |
| 16:40.37 | jenson | Ok Leeds |
| 16:40.37 | Tarragon | Bye. |
| 16:40.41 | jenson | Byeeeeeeeee |
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| 16:52.59 | dank_work | It's not too late... |
| 16:53.05 | Tarragon | How can you forget to get dressed? |
| 16:53.17 | Leeds | well... not forgot... just never got around to it |
| 16:53.52 | Tarragon | But...but... but... |
| 16:54.05 | Leeds | but? |
| 16:55.33 | Tarragon | Just thinking of the horrors of being woken up this morning by a two year old before dawn. The sanctuary of the shower first thing is my only escape. Getting dressed sort of naturally follows. |
| 16:57.08 | Tarragon | And having the webcam sort of gives me no option. |
| 17:00.31 | Leeds | no webcam... and I... didn't shower yet either... |
| 17:03.13 | Tarragon | Too much information ;) |
| 17:04.36 | Leeds | SMELLO-IRC :-) |
| 17:05.12 | dank_work | Yeh |
| 17:09.16 | dank_work | I want to sleep |
| 17:26.01 | dank_work | :-) |
| 17:28.24 | dank_work | Yes? |
| 17:28.52 | davilion | well back to the office |
| 17:29.03 | Leeds | and... he's awake |
| 17:29.09 | davilion | just. |
| 17:29.10 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:29.12 | davilion | what a day. |
| 17:30.43 | davilion | anybody know of any group calendar thingies, ie i can open up an application and schedule time against a generic calender other users can log in and view? |
| 17:30.53 | dank_work | Outlook? |
| 17:31.08 | Leeds | you could hack something together with the web calendar I use |
| 17:31.25 | Leeds | by designating one calendar as the 'public one' |
| 17:32.14 | davilion | outlook isnt an option |
| 17:33.17 | davilion | im speccing a complete office system for streamline, and i was hoping i wouldnt have to reinvent the wheel too much but i'll just write a perl module and use mysql to store the stuff in |
| 17:33.53 | davilion | its going to be a beast so i'm going to break it down into little affordable pieces |
| 17:34.36 | Leeds | http://www.ma.utexas.edu/~mzou/webCal/index.html |
| 17:41.06 | davilion | cool. |
| 17:41.38 | Leeds | we're using that between my team at work now |
| 17:49.31 | davilion | yeah it looks quite good. |
| 17:49.48 | davilion | anybody here good at pulling prices out of their head for specifications? |
| 17:50.02 | davilion | this ones going to be quite big and i dont want to screw myself out of money |
| 17:50.35 | dank_work | I can pull lots of prices out of my head |
| 17:51.04 | davilion | i'll send a specification your way once i write it then :) |
| 17:51.10 | davilion | something else i need to think of --- company name. |
| 17:51.33 | davilion | David's Dodgy Software Corp doesnt look very good on paper. |
| 17:51.55 | dank_work | DDS corp? |
| 17:52.26 | davilion | DDSC doesnt sound too bad, its only going to be crap when i have to explain the acronym. |
| 17:52.40 | davilion | although it could be Dedicated Design Software Corp. |
| 17:52.57 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:55.16 | davilion | i think my boss is going to get a shock when he realises how much this is going to cost him though. |
| 17:56.37 | dank_work | Probably |
| 18:01.11 | dank_work | Hometime |
| 18:01.12 | dank_work | Bye |
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| 19:38.57 | eye69 | Evening |
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| 19:45.15 | NisoDaemon | Evening all |
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| 20:08.37 | skugg | hi NisoDaemon |
| 20:08.56 | NisoDaemon | Evening Skugg, nice to know one night of action hasn't runined this place ;) |
| 20:09.06 | NisoDaemon | Ruined even |
| 20:09.19 | skugg | naw |
| 20:09.31 | skugg | occasionally there's people here |
| 20:09.36 | Leeds | blah |
| 20:09.37 | skugg | and some action |
| 20:09.45 | NisoDaemon | There always seems to be people here, but they are all mute... |
| 20:09.53 | NisoDaemon | And then there were three :) |
| 20:10.01 | skugg | more to the point :P |
| 20:10.23 | NisoDaemon | I'm trying to track the origin of "If carpenters built the way programmers program, the arrival of the first woodpecker would mean the end of civilization as we know it" |
| 20:10.38 | NisoDaemon | I think its Kernigan or pike but the net disagrees |
| 20:10.54 | NisoDaemon | And my copy of the practise of programming is out at the moment |
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| 20:11.20 | NisoDaemon | Evening Dav |
| 20:11.24 | skugg | i can't help you there |
| 20:11.28 | NisoDaemon | Welcome to silence |
| 20:11.30 | NisoDaemon | ;) |
| 20:11.52 | davilion | hello |
| 20:11.52 | davilion | hows it going? |
| 20:11.52 | NisoDaemon | I like the quote and want to use it but i need to attribute it |
| 20:12.06 | davilion | NisoDaemon: have a look at lodge.glasgownet.com/~david/Main.pl.txt |
| 20:12.22 | NisoDaemon | LOL and i thought college was about catching STDs |
| 20:12.33 | skugg | NisoDaemon, not now... I'm ill ;P |
| 20:12.47 | davilion | lmao |
| 20:13.44 | NisoDaemon | Thats what we in the UK call an overshare... |
| 20:14.15 | skugg | arwen:~% dict overshare |
| 20:14.15 | skugg | No definitions found for "overshare", perhaps you mean: |
| 20:14.15 | skugg | gcide: Overstare Overshade Overshake |
| 20:14.22 | skugg | please explain :P |
| 20:14.31 | NisoDaemon | you told us a little too much information |
| 20:14.57 | NisoDaemon | Or spelling by the look of it... :( |
| 20:15.02 | skugg | ah, i see. |
| 20:15.17 | skugg | should have seen that :P |
| 20:15.40 | NisoDaemon | If i want to know how well hung you are, well i'll put myself down as i'd obviously be dieased ;) |
| 20:15.52 | skugg | that was _not_ quite what i meant ;P |
| 20:16.14 | NisoDaemon | But thats how it'll look in the logs hehe |
| 20:16.15 | skugg | that was a rather unfortunate choice of words, should we say |
| 20:16.25 | skugg | NisoDaemon, yes, so it is ;) |
| 20:16.27 | skugg | oh well |
| 20:16.53 | NisoDaemon | Never mind not like any girl you pick up is ever going to come on here, not if you want to stay with her anyway ;) |
| 20:17.24 | skugg | i just don't have the determinism to do all the ground work in order to catch STDs... too much hassle! |
| 20:17.28 | skugg | that's what i meant |
| 20:17.40 | skugg | haha ;P |
| 20:17.44 | NisoDaemon | Ahhh right. We beleave you ;) |
| 20:19.31 | skugg | all that hanging around in bars, talking bullshit with all the loosers in order to be a part of the in-crowd and considered cool enough for some petite creature to spend the night with... nah. can't be arsed. |
| 20:19.58 | NisoDaemon | your a student, wait till they are pissed at about oh 6:30 and then go for it ;) |
| 20:20.16 | davilion | skugg: exactly, its so much easier just to pay for sex |
| 20:20.53 | NisoDaemon | Or so you've been told |
| 20:20.57 | NisoDaemon | I'll add that for you |
| 20:21.00 | NisoDaemon | ;) |
| 20:21.05 | skugg | NisoDaemon :P |
| 20:21.14 | davilion | NisoDaemon: exactly |
| 20:21.21 | skugg | davilion, not as a student. |
| 20:21.28 | skugg | it pays bad... |
| 20:21.33 | NisoDaemon | LOL very true |
| 20:22.20 | davilion | hmm. |
| 20:22.26 | NisoDaemon | Nice to know i've not missed out on orgies working for a living |
| 20:23.38 | davilion | heh |
| 20:23.58 | davilion | its a no win situation, when your working and can afford to hang around chasing drunk chicks, your too tired and cant be arsed |
| 20:24.22 | davilion | when your not working and are subsequently horny as hell, you cant afford regular trips to pubs |
| 20:24.26 | NisoDaemon | How about we go in to partnership. You work and then i'll take your money and go on the pull |
| 20:24.36 | NisoDaemon | Hang on i just described most modern marriages ;) |
| 20:24.49 | skugg | NisoDaemon :D |
| 20:24.51 | davilion | NisoDaemon: i've got a better idea, how about you handle the network, i'll be the cameraman |
| 20:25.24 | NisoDaemon | A person i used to work with did his own porn portal, he also took his own photos for a while |
| 20:25.34 | NisoDaemon | He stopped after the fifth boyfriend kicked the shite out of him |
| 20:25.52 | davilion | lmaqo |
| 20:26.02 | NisoDaemon | Not funny but a true story, he also got the sack due to constantly being off sick |
| 20:26.09 | NisoDaemon | Thats funny :) |
| 20:26.10 | davilion | ive actually considered setting up my own porn portal before, keep meaning to look into the legalities. |
| 20:26.26 | davilion | NisoDaemon: eye problems? |
| 20:26.28 | NisoDaemon | Dav: learn to run fast ;) Fixes most legal problems |
| 20:26.35 | davilion | NisoDaemon: true. |
| 20:26.53 | NisoDaemon | Nope broken ribs, legs, fingers... he was a stubborn bastard and didnt hand the negatives over |
| 20:26.57 | NisoDaemon | At first |
| 20:27.06 | davilion | its something i wouldnt feel comfortable going to scottish enterprise and saying 'hi, i'm here to start a pron site, what funds area available to help? |
| 20:27.15 | davilion | NisoDaemon: heh |
| 20:27.43 | NisoDaemon | "We can't offer you funds but we can offer you resources, if you let us watch" |
| 20:28.03 | davilion | heheh |
| 20:28.20 | davilion | theres some cute admin staff at scotent |
| 20:28.22 | skugg | NisoDaemon, so, did he get to photograph a lot of girls that had boyfriends at the time, or was it boyfriends they aquired afterwards? |
| 20:28.54 | Leeds | or even his boyfriends... |
| 20:29.02 | NisoDaemon | Both, i think most were from people they were seeing at the time but it didn't matter in the end. |
| 20:29.13 | skugg | Leeds, i considered that too, but decided against it |
| 20:29.23 | skugg | NisoDaemon, true |
| 20:29.25 | NisoDaemon | Dav thats a little far for even me to travel to letch |
| 20:29.44 | davilion | heheh |
| 20:29.56 | skugg | i just wondered why girls with boyfriends would let other guys take pictures of them (presumably quite explicit ones) |
| 20:29.59 | NisoDaemon | Whats te UKUUG event thats going to be in Scotland? |
| 20:30.06 | NisoDaemon | Skugg: Money |
| 20:30.15 | skugg | ah, he paid them :P |
| 20:30.18 | Leeds | Linnux Developer's Conference, June/July next year |
| 20:30.25 | skugg | it was not all just for fame and glory then |
| 20:30.36 | davilion | skugg: good money mainly, skugg: i have a friend in newcastle who just gets off on voyerism |
| 20:30.45 | NisoDaemon | Nope money, most things in life are simple to understand if you follow the money. |
| 20:30.57 | NisoDaemon | Dav: its always a friend isn't it ;) |
| 20:31.13 | NisoDaemon | I want to go to scotland and have a deep fried pizza |
| 20:31.21 | NisoDaemon | And a real Haggis |
| 20:31.27 | Leeds | deep fried Mars bar |
| 20:31.44 | NisoDaemon | The pizzas sound better |
| 20:31.47 | davilion | NisoDaemon: yeah, she's cute thouhg heheh |
| 20:31.49 | NisoDaemon | A mars bars not a meal |
| 20:32.23 | davilion | NisoDaemon: you dont get many deep fried marsbars, but you do otoh get deep fried pizzas |
| 20:32.48 | NisoDaemon | Thats what i want Bruce sold the idea to me so i'm up for it |
| 20:33.08 | davilion | heheh |
| 20:33.23 | Leeds | many Mars bars make a meal |
| 20:33.28 | davilion | Leeds: yup |
| 20:34.05 | Leeds | NisoDaemon: it gets dark at about noon there at the moment |
| 20:34.18 | davilion | NisoDaemon: scientists have been trying to work that out for years |
| 20:34.24 | davilion | Leeds: well about 3pm yes |
| 20:34.31 | NisoDaemon | Whats it like in Juhe? Hours of daylight hit double digits? ;) |
| 20:35.01 | davilion | NisoDaemon: its just like england, only people talk funny, and its colder, with more hills, less traffric, fresher air, and wetter |
| 20:35.20 | NisoDaemon | FOSDEM in Feb, UKUUG in Feb, UKUUG in June. My years half planned ;) |
| 20:35.44 | davilion | NisoDaemon: its the same as janruary, cold, wet, miserable, but with more sheep. |
| 20:35.49 | NisoDaemon | Hills? this is a fact thats been conceled from me so far :) |
| 20:36.04 | davilion | NisoDaemon: you shoudl come up snowboarding sometime soon, going ot start going up to aviemore soon,. |
| 20:36.41 | Leeds | you're going to the Winter Conference? |
| 20:36.44 | skugg | NisoDaemon, hah! I've been there! only place apart from london I've been on this island :P |
| 20:36.45 | NisoDaemon | As we say round here, bugger that for a game of soliders |
| 20:36.57 | NisoDaemon | Going to try and go |
| 20:37.15 | Leeds | what's the subject? |
| 20:37.30 | NisoDaemon | Skugg what was it like compared to hme? Wam and tropical? :) |
| 20:37.55 | skugg | NisoDaemon, no... full of insects, mostly. |
| 20:38.00 | NisoDaemon | Leeds: looking that up now :) |
| 20:38.14 | skugg | and cheap beer |
| 20:38.28 | NisoDaemon | The UKUUG wishes to encourage discussion on all aspects of systems and their administration and is especially interested in papers covering theory and practice, high-availability, performance, network management, novel solutions to practical problems, integration, interoperability, and security (including the business, legal and moral issues). |
| 20:38.41 | NisoDaemon | Anything that can get i think ;) |
| 20:39.00 | davilion | NisoDaemon: whats that for? |
| 20:39.02 | NisoDaemon | Skug you up for FOSDEM in brussels? (Feb next year) |
| 20:39.12 | NisoDaemon | Dav UKUUG conference in London |
| 20:39.15 | skugg | NisoDaemon, tempting... |
| 20:39.20 | davilion | NisoDaemon: when is it? |
| 20:39.24 | davilion | sounds interesting. |
| 20:39.26 | skugg | i might even have some time in february |
| 20:39.29 | NisoDaemon | 18-19 February 2003 |
| 20:39.31 | davilion | FOSDEM: sounds good too |
| 20:39.37 | skugg | all depends on the money, I think |
| 20:39.43 | NisoDaemon | FOSDEM is a laugh, out of the to i'd go for that |
| 20:39.47 | NisoDaemon | two even |
| 20:40.06 | NisoDaemon | Three or o days of the pissed part of GLLUG trying to order food in french. |
| 20:40.38 | davilion | heh sounds like the lbw |
| 20:40.50 | davilion | 2001 in belgium was priceless |
| 20:41.01 | NisoDaemon | Yep, but through the day you have talks. |
| 20:41.12 | NisoDaemon | I missed that one, i only went to Conniston |
| 20:41.15 | NisoDaemon | Was it good? |
| 20:41.18 | davilion | we had all these people translating into all different languages until somebody could translate that language into french/flemish |
| 20:41.32 | NisoDaemon | Human babbelfish |
| 20:41.33 | davilion | it was good, not as good as coniston for me, but i was tired and skint, |
| 20:41.41 | davilion | didnt make doolin didnt get time |
| 20:42.00 | skugg | argh, I'll come if I don't have to order food in french ;P |
| 20:42.08 | skugg | i'll never get to eat that way :P |
| 20:42.11 | NisoDaemon | Nah i mssed that ne as well. I'm up for the grim scotts but not the paddies ;) |
| 20:42.29 | NisoDaemon | Skugg order after i do, i make every one elses frnech look good. |
| 20:42.42 | NisoDaemon | They work that out :) |
| 20:42.57 | skugg | (9) |
| 20:43.14 | NisoDaemon | Je ne compron pas (Or something close) |
| 20:43.20 | NisoDaemon | I don't understand |
| 20:43.33 | NisoDaemon | Thats me done with French |
| 20:44.02 | skugg | i could probably manage to order something in german though... they speak that too over there? |
| 20:44.18 | NisoDaemon | I dunno, all these different heathen tongues |
| 20:44.26 | skugg | or is that just the Netherlands? |
| 20:44.29 | NisoDaemon | English was good enough for the empire :) |
| 20:44.35 | skugg | haha |
| 20:45.13 | Leeds | if we get a similar price for the hotel for FOSDEM, it's amazingly cheap... |
| 20:45.21 | NisoDaemon | Good rooms too |
| 20:46.06 | NisoDaemon | And only ten minutes from the local Swingers club. This is a fact |
| 20:47.33 | Leeds | 'tis true |
| 20:48.00 | Leeds | plus, live MacOS X on TV, hot and cold running celeb speakers, and falafel/chips close by :-) |
| 20:48.01 | skugg | NisoDaemon, it would be only ten minutes if it was "the local" swingers club, wouldn't it :P |
| 20:48.10 | skugg | otherwise it wouldn't be local, I mean... |
| 20:48.40 | NisoDaemon | Don't start heathen :) |
| 20:49.08 | NisoDaemon | And a shite bar that shut early, that was the only down side |
| 20:50.01 | skugg | but you got your cab fare paid by miguel, didn't you? :) |
| 20:50.25 | NisoDaemon | Yep :) And i found out that Dave JOnes used to admin NT servers for a living. |
| 20:50.35 | skugg | haha |
| 20:50.45 | NisoDaemon | Strange but true |
| 20:51.59 | NisoDaemon | Right i'm off, speak to you lot tomorrow |
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| 20:52.44 | skugg | bye |
| 20:54.34 | skugg | http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/bogo-sort.html --- i've seen a few classmates implement this one in their programs... |
| 21:01.45 | Leeds | there's a shrew conga on BBC1 |
| 21:05.34 | skugg | night, i'm going to bed with pounding headache and aching limbs now |
| 21:06.01 | skugg | hope i've succeeded in giving somebody else it, cause I don't want to feel like this for nothing ;P |
| 21:20.23 | davilion | heh neds on chan 3 |
| 21:21.23 | davilion | heh mun i wiz juz looking four a snutch |
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| 21:48.12 | dankolb | Evening |
| 21:48.23 | resudaed | evening dan |
| 21:50.35 | resudaed | dankolb needs to be shot :) |
| 21:51.46 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 21:51.54 | dankolb | I'm sure there's a good reason. I just haven't quite thought of it. |
| 21:52.04 | dankolb | Err...I'll also be installing VB 5 |
| 21:56.44 | Leeds | ibot lart dankolb |
| 21:57.02 | dankolb | Hi Leeds |
| 21:57.16 | Leeds | hi |
| 21:57.26 | resudaed | vb3 was their last good release :) |
| 21:57.36 | Leeds | oh God |
| 21:57.45 | dankolb | I've got that somewhere. |
| 21:57.48 | resudaed | hi leeds |
| 21:57.53 | dankolb | But VB5 was more handy |
| 21:58.23 | resudaed | but I don't have that one :) |
| 21:58.54 | resudaed | I still use vb1 (dos) and vb3(16bit) |
| 21:59.17 | dankolb | I've got VB for DOS somewhere |
| 21:59.43 | dankolb | Not v1, though |
| 21:59.48 | dankolb | I didn't like it |
| 21:59.52 | resudaed | Leeds: got as far as an outgoing smtp server |
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| 22:00.12 | resudaed | eventually fell asleep 5 this afternoon |
| 22:00.28 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:00.31 | dankolb | Hi cupis |
| 22:00.37 | cupis | hi all |
| 22:01.43 | Leeds | evening |
| 22:08.28 | dankolb | Hmm. It's slow copying the files from the CD to the hard drive |
| 22:09.37 | Leeds | both on same bus? |
| 22:10.44 | Leeds | just saw a BBC reporter asking an Iraqi factory manager "Do you make any weapons of mass distruction here?" :-) |
| 22:11.14 | dankolb | Nope. Two different IDE controllers |
| 22:11.18 | dankolb | Hehe. |
| 22:11.35 | dankolb | Remember Dead Ringers? Saddam Hussein as the next Tory leader |
| 22:11.41 | Leeds | all DMAed up? |
| 22:11.46 | dankolb | Probably not |
| 22:11.54 | dankolb | Is it enablable under DOS? |
| 22:12.00 | Leeds | didn't see that part of DR... |
| 22:12.07 | Leeds | DOS??? all bets are off... |
| 22:12.10 | dankolb | Right at the beginning |
| 22:12.18 | dankolb | :) What about under NT 4? |
| 22:12.22 | Leeds | I missed the first few minutes... |
| 22:12.31 | davilion | dankolb: hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd[a..z] |
| 22:12.32 | dankolb | ah. It was ongoing a couple of times |
| 22:12.37 | Leeds | you should be able to do it under NT, in principle... I've never really used it |
| 22:12.38 | dankolb | davilion: KUATBT. |
| 22:12.40 | davilion | in dos i think you need smartdrive or something |
| 22:12.40 | dankolb | That's not DOS |
| 22:12.47 | dankolb | smartdrive is just a cache |
| 22:13.06 | dankolb | That wouldn't help in this particular situation, where it's copying files. Not accessing anything the same |
| 22:13.33 | dankolb | It's a P200MMX laptop. I'm not sure if it'll even be DMA-enablable |
| 22:13.59 | Leeds | the hard drive probably should be... maybe not the CD |
| 22:15.07 | dankolb | Who knows.... :) I'll dig around under NT, when it finally installs |
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| 22:23.26 | dankolb | SPLITTERS! |
| 22:24.38 | cupis | That was fun. :) |
| 22:25.27 | dankolb | Goes bouncy-bouncy. *mutter* IRC servers |
| 22:25.28 | dankolb | :) |
| 22:26.53 | highbury | now! |
| 22:27.06 | dankolb | Yes. |
| 22:27.10 | dankolb | See you in 30 mins |
| 22:38.39 | eye69 | http://www.sonymusic.com |
| 22:39.33 | Leeds | heh :-) |
| 22:40.30 | highbury | Tarragon: do you remember where you told me to look for drivers for my "Creative VideoBlaster WebCam Go", ie. usb web-cam |
| 22:41.22 | Tarragon | Hold on will access brain log. |
| 22:44.21 | Leeds | eye69: how did you know about that? |
| 22:48.37 | Leeds | hang on... where did 2dtv come from? |
| 22:49.32 | Leeds | since it looks to me like Dead Ringers - the TV version done right... with the same voices... |
| 22:50.19 | eye69 | Leeds: #linux on quakenet |
| 22:50.29 | eye69 | Leeds: It's being spread like wildfire |
| 22:51.03 | Leeds | it's been - sort of - fixed |
| 22:51.28 | cupis | Yeah, sort of. |
| 22:51.55 | cupis | someone deleted the index.html but hasn't replaced it with the original yet |
| 22:52.13 | Leeds | I'm sure there are many copies around... |
| 22:52.15 | Tarragon | VideoBlasterWebcam II http://webcam.sourceforge.net/ Webcam 5 http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ WebcamGo http://winbond-webcam.sourceforge.net/ WebcamGoMini http://stv0680-usb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:52.22 | Leeds | of the broken one, that is |
| 22:53.07 | eye69 | I can imagine the panic at Sony right now |
| 22:55.46 | highbury | Tarragon: cheers muchly |
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| 22:56.18 | cupis | dankolb: wb |
| 22:56.31 | dankolb | That was a good show. |
| 22:56.33 | dankolb | Thanks |
| 22:57.38 | dankolb | NT is still copying files... |
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| 23:33.16 | dankolb | wb resudaed |
| 23:44.07 | davilion | night all |
| 23:44.12 | Tarragon | Night. |
| 23:44.18 | dankolb | night |
| 23:44.23 | dankolb | hi Tarragon |
| 23:44.31 | Tarragon | Bon Jour. |
| 23:44.42 | Leeds | bon nuit |
| 23:45.04 | Tarragon | Well yes but Spanish was never my strong point. |
| 23:45.59 | dankolb | Right. Greek Mythology. |
| 23:46.16 | dankolb | I'm installing an NT4 laptop. Need to give it a name. |
| 23:48.15 | dankolb | The name, to fit in with the rest of my computers (most of them) should be a character from Greek Myth |
| 23:48.17 | Tarragon | Athena - Goddess of wisdom |
| 23:48.17 | dankolb | Any ideas? |
| 23:48.23 | dankolb | Got that already |
| 23:49.20 | dankolb | Hmm. Aphrodite. I don't think I've got that |
| 23:49.34 | Leeds | it's a Mac, right? a pretty machine? :-) |
| 23:49.39 | Tarragon | Hermes - messenger of gods Ganymede - cup bearer of gods |
| 23:49.41 | dankolb | No. A crappy PC |
| 23:50.02 | Tarragon | Aries - god of war 'cos NT will be a battle |
| 23:50.35 | dankolb | Thanks Tarragon! |
| 23:57.01 | dankolb | NT is slow to install |
| 23:59.29 | dankolb | Hm. The glidepad on the laptop is a bit sensitive |