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| 03:44.03 | stickster | GGD_: For a *fairly* (not completely) minimal Fedora, you can deselect every package group in the "customization" screen of an install, and it will remove almost everything but basic libraries, startup scripts, shell, and yum. |
| 03:44.14 | stickster | Then you can build it up from there. |
| 03:45.02 | GGD_ | gotcha is there a fedora spin on that? ( i am just curious) |
| 04:11.54 | *** join/#fredlug lorddoomicus (~lorddoomi@c-98-249-16-167.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 04:13.39 | GGD_ | hey lorddoomicus |
| 04:18.15 | lorddoomicus | hi |
| 04:18.38 | GGD_ | how goes it |
| 04:18.53 | lorddoomicus | It goes. |
| 04:19.03 | GGD_ | welcome to fred lug |
| 04:19.20 | lorddoomicus | thanks. |
| 04:20.15 | GGD_ | did you get my last email? |
| 04:20.22 | lorddoomicus | Yes I did |
| 04:20.46 | lorddoomicus | you work up the hill from me |
| 04:20.54 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:21.07 | lorddoomicus | Do you work for the government directly, or a contractor? |
| 04:21.08 | GGD_ | and i am trying to be the renegade of the group |
| 04:21.10 | GGD_ | as well |
| 04:21.12 | GGD_ | govie |
| 04:21.52 | lorddoomicus | My parent company, PTFS is largely windows based .. I've been trying to push them more to Linux |
| 04:22.25 | GGD_ | oh yea? |
| 04:22.40 | lorddoomicus | They develop some Open source stuff on Debian. But their main product is on Windoze |
| 04:22.42 | GGD_ | our place has some linux but mostly a M$ shop |
| 04:23.08 | lorddoomicus | GPO has a nice mix of Linux, UNIX, and windoze. |
| 04:23.13 | lorddoomicus | are you in IT? |
| 04:23.14 | GGD_ | awesome |
| 04:23.16 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:23.30 | GGD_ | i am about as hip deep as i can get |
| 04:24.21 | lorddoomicus | I only work on FDsys, which only has 5 out of 75 servers that are windoze, and a few windows desktops |
| 04:24.26 | lorddoomicus | the rest are linux |
| 04:24.30 | GGD_ | ahh |
| 04:25.11 | GGD_ | we have very little linux on our side |
| 04:25.41 | lorddoomicus | my last company only had about 60 Linux/UNIX servers out of about 500 |
| 04:25.52 | GGD_ | wow |
| 04:26.07 | GGD_ | we have about that |
| 04:26.08 | GGD_ | here |
| 04:26.27 | lorddoomicus | I only really was a Linux guy, but some were trying to drag me into Windoze |
| 04:27.08 | lorddoomicus | It's nice now, I even have a Linux box on my desk ... as well as a windows box ( my secure gov computer ) and my MacBook |
| 04:27.17 | GGD_ | yea i can feel your pain as its almost the same there |
| 04:27.36 | GGD_ | i have the same on my desk |
| 04:28.00 | GGD_ | a windoze box |
| 04:28.10 | GGD_ | a Mac and a linux bos as well |
| 04:28.13 | GGD_ | box |
| 04:28.20 | lorddoomicus | I have fun debating the marits of the three platforms, since i have all three on my desk and use them every day |
| 04:28.58 | GGD_ | as do i although i would really like to migrate all of the windoze to linux and jsut run that and mac |
| 04:29.50 | lorddoomicus | I'd like to go all Linux, but my whole family ( except one of my sons who has a Linux EEE ) is all Macs, and I'm quite immersed in the iLife apps. |
| 04:30.01 | GGD_ | LOL i see |
| 04:30.08 | GGD_ | a true mactopia? |
| 04:30.25 | lorddoomicus | Yea. My wife is a total Apple Fan Girl. |
| 04:30.38 | GGD_ | wow |
| 04:30.39 | lorddoomicus | I got her to switch from Windows too. |
| 04:30.56 | GGD_ | mine just does vista to do her facebook and yahoo |
| 04:30.58 | GGD_ | thats it |
| 04:31.11 | GGD_ | and she gripes if she can't do that |
| 04:31.28 | lorddoomicus | She does plenty of facebook and yahoo ... but also uses the iLife apps too |
| 04:31.50 | lorddoomicus | I don't mind macs, but at my core I'm a UNIX guy |
| 04:32.01 | GGD_ | agreed |
| 04:32.09 | GGD_ | although i am a bit rusty |
| 04:32.51 | lorddoomicus | I've managed to minimize my Windows exposure ( except for the 9 months I was a Windows programmer in the mid 90's ) my whole carrer |
| 04:33.16 | GGD_ | wow |
| 04:33.21 | lorddoomicus | I realized when it was time to learn Linux as HPUX, IRIX, and Solaris started going away |
| 04:33.28 | lorddoomicus | that saved my but from Windows |
| 04:33.30 | GGD_ | i would love to do that but like i said i am hip deep in windoz3 |
| 04:33.32 | GGD_ | e |
| 04:33.51 | GGD_ | i ran a few hpus boxes |
| 04:33.56 | GGD_ | they were a pain |
| 04:34.09 | lorddoomicus | I loved HPUX ... especially service guard. |
| 04:34.42 | lorddoomicus | I have more than a decade on HPUX as my main platform to support |
| 04:34.49 | GGD_ | the app put a whole slew of hooks into the OS and cause it to crash all the time |
| 04:35.19 | lorddoomicus | It could ... and early version were flaky at times. |
| 04:35.33 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:35.39 | lorddoomicus | but by 10.20, it was stable. |
| 04:35.49 | GGD_ | when did that come out? |
| 04:36.48 | lorddoomicus | 95, maybe 96. |
| 04:37.23 | lorddoomicus | Solaris was always my favorite OS, and SGI was my favorite hardware |
| 04:37.28 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:37.45 | lorddoomicus | IRIX was ok but had some weeknesses over HPUX and Solaris |
| 04:37.51 | lorddoomicus | and don't get me started on AIX |
| 04:38.09 | lorddoomicus | AIX, while fast and stable, was just plain weird. |
| 04:38.45 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:38.52 | GGD_ | IBM's take on unix |
| 04:39.20 | lorddoomicus | I've used them all at one time or another, and have a few here at my house ... |
| 04:39.29 | GGD_ | ahh |
| 04:39.37 | lorddoomicus | There are a lot of opernuities to get into Linux in the DC area, especially if you have a good secruity clerance |
| 04:39.45 | GGD_ | i used too |
| 04:39.54 | GGD_ | a while ago |
| 04:40.01 | lorddoomicus | I had to get public trust to get my ID for the GPO building, but that's all I have |
| 04:40.12 | GGD_ | i have the same |
| 04:40.18 | lorddoomicus | You should have the same I would suspect for the same reason. |
| 04:40.26 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:40.50 | lorddoomicus | The higher the better ... Northop Grumand had a position, lifestyle cleard, 125K a year |
| 04:40.59 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:41.11 | GGD_ | buts that either meade or lang? |
| 04:41.31 | lorddoomicus | Ft Meade I think |
| 04:41.44 | GGD_ | yea |
| 04:41.44 | lorddoomicus | It's been about 6 months since I was looking for my job |
| 04:42.06 | GGD_ | almost three years since i got this one |
| 04:42.13 | GGD_ | or rather been here 3 years |
| 04:42.31 | lorddoomicus | Lockheed runs the dept of education data center ... lots o linux there |
| 04:42.38 | lorddoomicus | I had a phone intervew with them |
| 04:42.43 | GGD_ | oh yea |
| 04:43.30 | lorddoomicus | I had a couple of other interviews for similar postitions here requiring varing degrees of clearence, but I didn't have anything at that time |
| 04:43.52 | lorddoomicus | but there is a lot of linux here |
| 04:43.54 | GGD_ | and they wouldn't sponsor you |
| 04:44.04 | lorddoomicus | having VMware and or storage helps |
| 04:44.11 | lorddoomicus | some would |
| 04:44.28 | lorddoomicus | I just picked this one. Northup didn't have time they needed someone now |
| 04:44.29 | GGD_ | i have some vmware exp as well |
| 04:44.35 | GGD_ | ahh i see |
| 04:44.38 | lorddoomicus | they were looking for NSA or MI |
| 04:44.57 | lorddoomicus | vmware is hot ... |
| 04:45.20 | GGD_ | ml? |
| 04:45.24 | GGD_ | nsa? |
| 04:46.05 | lorddoomicus | military intellegents ... NSA ... the guy at northup said they were looking for some one from one of those orginiztions becase they would likely have the needed clearnce |
| 04:46.19 | GGD_ | oh yea |
| 04:46.24 | GGD_ | that i can understand hat |
| 04:46.43 | GGD_ | that |
| 04:48.11 | lorddoomicus | anyway, if you wanted to get into Linux, there is a lot of opernunity in this area. |
| 04:48.20 | GGD_ | that i would like to do |
| 04:53.46 | GGD_ | well lorddoomicus it was nice talking with you |
| 04:53.56 | lorddoomicus | same here |
| 04:54.06 | GGD_ | i have to get for bed or i will fall asleep right here |
| 04:54.13 | lorddoomicus | ok |
| 04:54.49 | lorddoomicus | lather |
| 04:54.52 | lorddoomicus | later |
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| 18:47.08 | GGD | hey lorddoomicus |