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| 16:55.26 | plarsen | jsmith: fancy meeting you here. Do you have any experience with embedded/ruggidized boxes? |
| 16:55.58 | plarsen | jsmith: Such as little boxes that'll work outside, in all kinds of temperatures and you can throw it on the wall, and the thing will still hum along |
| 16:59.33 | jsmith | plarsen: Not a lot of experience, no. May I ask why? |
| 17:00.21 | plarsen | Well, an opportunity has come up where specifying the right embedded box is key. Not sure where to start to look |
| 17:00.23 | jsmith | plarsen: Many of my friends simply put a small PC motherboard/components in a small waterproof foam-lined Pelican case, and hope it doesn't overheat |
| 17:00.33 | jsmith | How ruggedized? |
| 17:00.36 | jsmith | Waterproof? |
| 17:00.42 | jsmith | Dustproof? |
| 17:00.48 | plarsen | Quite - let me see if I can find the specs |
| 17:03.34 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.36 | plarsen | testing for resistance to vibration, harsh environments, resistance to dirt or moisture egress and corrosion |
| 17:03.37 | plarsen | resistance. Housings including computers, monitors, keyboards, and pointing devices, shall be rated to a |
| 17:03.39 | plarsen | minimum of NEMA 4 or IP65. A minimal ruggedized computing system is defined as: |
| 17:03.57 | plarsen | Soldered CPU (Never heard that expression before) |
| 17:04.00 | plarsen | Soldered RAM |
| 17:04.02 | plarsen | DC |
| 17:04.03 | plarsen | Fanless |
| 17:04.12 | plarsen | Shock and vibration (Mil-STd 810F) |
| 17:04.22 | plarsen | Solid-State drives |
| 17:04.41 | plarsen | This one is funny: |
| 17:04.43 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.44 | plarsen | provided to the buyer for each installed operating system. |
| 17:04.50 | plarsen | They make such a thing?? |
| 17:05.23 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.25 | plarsen | maintenance or replacement depending on mounting location and needs of application. |
| 17:05.26 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.28 | plarsen | prevent coming loose during operation in high vibration environments. |
| 17:05.46 | plarsen | Basically, these things are going to be mounted in cranes ... lots of shaking and outside environment exposure. |
| 17:06.27 | plarsen | Scared yet?? :D |
| 17:26.54 | plarsen | jsmith: looks like it :) |
| 17:27.21 | jsmith | Mil-spec stuff... yuck |
| 17:36.28 | jsmith | plarsen: It looks like http://www.eurotech-inc.com/ has some interesting products |
| 17:49.05 | plarsen | jsmith: checking it out. Thanks. Actually, it looks like these kind of devices are already present. We need a "computer" node or two to run a web-browser and provide a LCD GUI |
| 17:49.27 | plarsen | A lot of these embedded little sensors are already in operation; juuuuust need to hook them up to something ;) |
| 17:50.15 | jsmith | plarsen: You can always go the ToughBook route... |
| 17:50.29 | plarsen | Got VERY VERY bad experiences with them |
| 17:50.35 | plarsen | Can't even handle a splash of salt-water |
| 17:50.35 | jsmith | :-/ |
| 17:50.43 | jsmith | Seriously? |
| 17:50.46 | plarsen | Yup! |
| 17:50.54 | jsmith | I've seen them absolutely *beat to smithereens* |
| 17:50.58 | plarsen | After replacing the thing 4 (I think) times we looked for somethign else. |
| 17:50.59 | jsmith | and still come out like a champ |
| 17:51.25 | plarsen | That may work on brute force. We had several onboard patrol boats |
| 17:51.32 | plarsen | That didn't work very well, I can tell you. |
| 19:00.26 | stickster | plarsen: There's a set of toughened Dell Latitudes out there today I think |
| 19:28.12 | plarsen | stickster: yeah, but there's moving parts (ie. fans). Has to be fanless |
| 19:28.28 | stickster | OK. I don't know anything about them, caveat emptorl. |
| 19:28.30 | stickster | *emptor |
| 19:30.52 | jsmith | plarsen: I'll ask around and see if any of my contacts have ideas |
| 23:09.38 | jsmith | stickster: Say hi to gregdek for me... |
| 23:10.59 | plarsen | Well, if you guys are still looking for embedded/ruggized systems, you can halt it ... office politics *grr*. sounded like an interesting project, but I aint waiting till Monday to hurry up even more for a deadline on Wednesday ... |
| 23:13.09 | jsmith | plarsen: OK |
| 23:30.55 | plarsen | stickster: are you still around? |