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| 01:35.25 | jsmith | Hello |
| 01:38.55 | IrishW0lf | jsmith: hi did anyone make the mtg tonight |
| 01:39.35 | jsmith | I don't know.... I wasn't there |
| 01:39.46 | jsmith | I just got home from another meeting |
| 01:40.24 | IrishW0lf | oh, ok, with so many folks on chat i thought there might have been some chatter |
| 01:40.54 | jsmith | plarsen: Did you make it to the meeting tonight? |
| 01:40.58 | IrishW0lf | plarsen: hi were you at the mtg tonight |
| 01:41.35 | plarsen | jsmith: no :( |
| 01:41.42 | plarsen | I've spent 2.5 hours at the dentist :( |
| 01:41.56 | plarsen | I've had a really bad weekend here .... absolutely no way I could have driven to Fred. tonight |
| 01:42.23 | IrishW0lf | man, that's longer than my wife usually takes |
| 01:42.42 | IrishW0lf | altho she has gone 3 |
| 01:42.50 | plarsen | yeah - got some severe issues after my radiation .... |
| 01:43.32 | IrishW0lf | sure, i bet that affects a bunch of things |
| 01:43.53 | plarsen | uhmmm - yeah. I walk around like a drunk :) |
| 01:44.08 | plarsen | no balance |
| 01:45.10 | IrishW0lf | well sit back, relax and take care of yourself |
| 01:45.44 | IrishW0lf | good baseball game on ch5 |
| 01:51.08 | plarsen | I've never been able to get excited about a baseball game. Even when in the stadion - I like the songs and cheers better than the game :) |
| 01:52.07 | IrishW0lf | ok, know what you mean |
| 02:18.19 | IrishW0lf | got to go, bbl |
| 02:24.36 | quigleymd | jsmith: hey hey hey |
| 02:24.47 | jsmith | quigleymd! |
| 02:24.53 | quigleymd | jsmith: i forgot i have a dr appt tomorrow afternoon |
| 02:24.57 | jsmith | No problem |
| 02:25.10 | quigleymd | jsmith: and meetings all morning, but i'll leave your dvd with tom |
| 02:25.11 | jsmith | I just found out my headlight assembly won't be in until Thursday |
| 02:25.21 | jsmith | So I may not come into town until then |
| 02:25.26 | quigleymd | jsmith: works for me :) |
| 02:25.34 | quigleymd | jsmith: toms mad at you for not answering his email |
| 02:25.37 | jsmith | (gotta replace the headlight to get my truck legal again) |
| 02:25.43 | jsmith | quigleymd: He sent me email? |
| 02:25.43 | quigleymd | lame |
| 02:25.47 | quigleymd | yea, supposedly |
| 02:25.50 | jsmith | quigleymd: I haven't checked my personal email in days |
| 02:25.53 | quigleymd | (10:22:48 PM) Matt: if i leave that with you |
| 02:25.53 | quigleymd | (10:22:51 PM) Matt: can you make sure he gets it |
| 02:25.55 | quigleymd | (10:23:27 PM) Tom: Yes, he never answered my email |
| 02:25.57 | quigleymd | HAH |
| 02:26.01 | quigleymd | check your junk mail |
| 02:26.03 | jsmith | Been too stinkin' busy |
| 02:26.06 | quigleymd | ahh |
| 02:26.12 | jsmith | Let me check it now |
| 02:26.18 | quigleymd | 22:25 < jsmith> quigleymd: I haven't checked my personal email in days |
| 02:26.20 | quigleymd | oops |
| 02:26.24 | quigleymd | scratch that, pasting it to tonm |
| 02:27.49 | jsmith | If he wants me to reply quickly, have him send it to my work email... I always get caught up on that account first |
| 02:27.59 | quigleymd | will do, what is it |
| 02:28.26 | quigleymd | you ought to have a digium address now! |
| 02:29.36 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.59 | jsmith | Oh, and he spelled my name wrong, so it went into my "read when you have nothing better to do" folder. |
| 02:30.06 | quigleymd | LOL |
| 02:30.09 | quigleymd | gotta love tom :) |
| 02:30.18 | jsmith | I'm sure it was just a typo |
| 02:30.24 | jsmith | jardesmith |
| 02:30.33 | jsmith | :-) |
| 02:30.35 | quigleymd | i dunno, toms pretty... tom |
| 02:30.51 | jsmith | Tell him "I think so, and I'll have a definitive answer tomorrow" |
| 02:31.09 | quigleymd | he just signed off, so i'll tell him tomorrow :) |
| 02:31.14 | jsmith | The guys at VON sent me over some HTML today to send around to the Asterisk community |
| 02:31.26 | jsmith | It's supposed to have a discount code, etc. |
| 02:32.08 | quigleymd | ahh i suppose as 'CRM' you're going to be at asteriskworld! |
| 02:32.43 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 02:32.46 | jsmith | Gotta speak too... |
| 02:32.55 | jsmith | And organize a couple of BoF sessions |
| 02:33.56 | quigleymd | good thing you're good with people ;) |
| 02:34.37 | jsmith | Gah! |
| 02:34.39 | jsmith | Whatever... |
| 02:38.57 | quigleymd | jsmith: i missed the lug |
| 02:39.03 | quigleymd | been home from work about 30 mins |
| 02:39.17 | quigleymd | and on that note |
| 02:39.19 | quigleymd | its wife time |
| 02:39.27 | jsmith | I got home about an hour ago from my meeting (and running to the auto-parts store) |
| 02:39.35 | jsmith | Go enjoy your evening! |
| 02:39.38 | jsmith | Get out of here1 |
| 02:39.41 | jsmith | Enjoy life! |
| 02:40.08 | quigleymd | have a good nite guys :) |
| 02:40.33 | quigleymd | jsmith: just give me a ring when you wanna come up |
| 02:40.58 | jsmith | quigleymd: Will do |
| 02:40.59 | quigleymd | texts work too, but I cant reply on my phon e |
| 02:41.07 | jsmith | quigleymd: Gotcha... |
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| 06:37.31 | stickster | probably not |
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| 16:32.11 | plarsen | howdy sirs |
| 16:36.14 | jsmith | Hello |
| 16:42.56 | plarsen | I had an epifiny last night ..... |
| 16:43.22 | plarsen | The startup (init) of Linix has always worked pretty simple - you run a script for your runlevel, and then init kicks of gdm or whatever you have as your login manager |
| 16:43.36 | plarsen | As a consequence the users waits for all services to be started before being able to login |
| 16:44.18 | plarsen | why not split the services into two groups - a system and a "not-system" side. Runt he system side as now, but wait with the non-system ones and run them once the gdm is being loaded? |
| 16:44.27 | plarsen | Simple background task would do it? |
| 16:44.58 | plarsen | That way Linux would be up much sooner on a laptop at least from a user perspective, while services like ssh, Apache etc. are being loaded? |
| 17:24.32 | stickster | plarsen: People are already working on that very method |
| 17:25.11 | stickster | There's been a lot of talk about making startup scripts that respond to something like D-Bus messages, so when a user requests a specific facility, supporting scripts run at that point |
| 17:25.23 | stickster | That's not the only methodology that could be used, but you get the point |
| 18:59.33 | plarsen | hmmm - that still makes for slow startup times. |
| 18:59.53 | plarsen | I'm just trying to get around the 'wait' while the system starts everything - most of which isn't needed immediately upon login. |
| 19:09.04 | stickster | plarsen: Actually, it would eliminate some of the startup scripts from running, which does mean a reduction in the overall wait time. |
| 19:09.30 | stickster | plarsen: There has also been work on a gdm-early-login system, although I think overall the strategy it pursued didn't prove as effective as these other methods |
| 19:10.04 | stickster | plarsen: You can look back on fedora-devel-list many moons ago, where this idea was batted about at _great_ length, repeatedly :-) |
| 19:11.28 | stickster | On a semi-related note, you can knock out a lot of start time by doing the following: |
| 19:13.43 | stickster | 1. Turn off rhgb (although it's faster now than in F7) |
| 19:13.54 | stickster | 2. Turn off unnecessary services |
| 19:14.11 | stickster | 3. On older systems, possibly turn off floppy probing for udev |
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