00:20.06 | tda | kNIGits: Are you using PSI for this chat? Or in other words: Can I use PSI for this chat? (Would need jabber GW?) |
00:20.52 | kNIGits | I'm using X-chat |
00:21.18 | kNIGits | Psi might support IRC through a gateway, but I've never tried it |
00:22.42 | tda | ok, using xchat too currently. But while I was away I installed PSI (and like it: tda@swissjabber.ch) |
00:27.05 | kNIGits | Psi is good. it supports gnupg signed presence, and encrypted chat |
00:27.52 | kNIGits | and it has no damn auto-popups by default |
00:28.54 | tda | I still need to get the concept :-) But that tomorrow. I am sooo tired.. c.u. tomorrow here or in the evening in Australia. |
00:30.21 | kNIGits | g'nite :-) |
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02:07.50 | kNIGits | g'day _unski |
02:08.07 | _unski | Hi |
02:08.13 | _unski | flyspray security bug |
02:08.17 | _unski | it's bad |
02:08.21 | kNIGits | hit me |
02:08.21 | _unski | where should I report it |
02:08.32 | _unski | any user can view any task without any rights |
02:08.54 | _unski | without being logged in |
02:09.08 | kNIGits | pm me the steps to reproduce |
02:09.10 | _unski | just type random number in "show task #" |
02:09.25 | _unski | sorry |
02:09.27 | _unski | I was too fast |
02:09.37 | kNIGits | that's ok. keep going |
02:10.12 | _unski | well, when you have restricted a project so that anyone without being logged in should not see any task |
02:11.58 | kNIGits | I have a restricted project online. would you show me? |
02:12.15 | _unski | url, please |
02:12.25 | kNIGits | http://flyspray.rocks.cc/bts/ |
02:12.55 | _unski | it's not so restricted |
02:13.02 | _unski | I'm not even logged in and I see everything |
02:13.04 | kNIGits | project 3 is private. try task 445, 446 or 447 |
02:14.20 | _unski | it works with that |
02:14.25 | _unski | I mean I don't see them |
02:14.41 | _unski | but in latest devel at least that exsts |
02:15.00 | MrBIOS | kNIGits, it's fixed, for the time being |
02:15.02 | kNIGits | ok, thanks for telling me that you're using devel |
02:15.06 | MrBIOS | my ISP had some sort of radio backhaul problem |
02:15.19 | MrBIOS | their primary radio backbone failed. |
02:15.48 | kNIGits | _unski, let me create a private project on my test server |
02:16.29 | _unski | sorry, I thought it affects both |
02:18.09 | kNIGits | ok, I see the bug in the devel version. thank you |
02:18.53 | _unski | no problem |
02:19.22 | kNIGits | although I don't have any real private projects, I'm glad that I hadn't upgraded the Flyspray BTS yet |
02:19.45 | _unski | btw. there is another bug |
02:19.53 | _unski | it's related to notifications by email |
02:20.03 | kNIGits | hit me |
02:20.11 | kNIGits | security again? |
02:20.11 | _unski | we have this mailing list where all the project notifications should be sent |
02:20.37 | _unski | those emails go to sender's address in latest version |
02:21.06 | kNIGits | sender's address? |
02:21.21 | _unski | yes, the one which you can set in properties |
02:21.21 | _unski | wait |
02:21.56 | _unski | admin toolbox -> pref -> Email notifications -> From Address |
02:23.26 | kNIGits | since we now BCC everyone, we still needed an address to put in the TO field |
02:23.46 | kNIGits | how did you previously send notifications to a ML? |
02:24.33 | _unski | manage project -> preferences -> notifications -> email address |
02:24.36 | _unski | we use that |
02:25.19 | kNIGits | ok, good. what's the bug? ;-) |
02:25.33 | _unski | well, I don't even get those notifications |
02:26.10 | _unski | all I see are these copies to "sender" which is totally different address |
02:26.10 | kNIGits | you? or the mailing list? |
02:26.57 | _unski | well, we used addresses in that email address field like this: email1@aaa.com, email2@bbb.com, etc. |
02:27.03 | _unski | that is our mailing list |
02:27.07 | _unski | it used to work like that |
02:27.14 | _unski | but I'm not so sure if works anymore |
02:27.44 | _unski | am I using it wrong? |
02:27.46 | kNIGits | ok, so you're saying that addresses entered in 'PM Toolbox -> Preferences -> Email address' don't get sent anymore? |
02:28.17 | _unski | yes |
02:28.30 | kNIGits | but you see multiple copies to "sender"? |
02:28.56 | _unski | one copy |
02:30.08 | kNIGits | but none to the other addresses? ok, then that's a bug. I will look at it |
02:30.26 | kNIGits | btw, thanks for using the devel version, and letting us know the bugs |
02:30.37 | kNIGits | if no-one tells us, it's hard to find all the issues |
02:30.44 | _unski | from now on, I really will let you know :) |
02:31.01 | kNIGits | great |
02:31.23 | kNIGits | looking at your first bug - only the 'show task' form seems affected. no tasks are shown in the tasklist |
02:31.45 | _unski | yeah, that's why it probably has been unnoticed |
02:32.00 | kNIGits | and also probably because we developers are usually logged in as Admin |
02:33.59 | _unski | true |
02:34.36 | kNIGits | looking at the $user->can_view_tasks() function now |
02:35.12 | _unski | I think I was too hasty with this notifications bug because now I got a notification |
02:35.16 | _unski | but not always |
02:35.30 | _unski | I cannot really tell if it's bug in my email system or what |
02:36.19 | _unski | about can_view_tasks: I think that you should check there if project allows anyone to view the task |
02:36.48 | _unski | visible for everyone or how was it called |
02:40.40 | kNIGits | yeah |
02:47.27 | kNIGits | alrighty, I think that I have the 'show task' permission sorted |
02:47.33 | _unski | great |
02:47.58 | kNIGits | the permissions backend was totally rewritten in devel. that's why the bug doesn't exist in 0.9.8 release |
02:48.30 | _unski | btw. there used to be another problem with permissions but I'm not sure if still exists |
02:49.00 | _unski | the case was so that we have a global developer and two projects |
02:49.12 | _unski | he wasn't able to create a task to right project |
02:49.28 | _unski | but he was able to edit the task later and put it in the right project |
02:49.48 | _unski | another project had limited visibility among the users |
02:49.53 | _unski | but he had global rights |
02:52.11 | kNIGits | odd |
02:52.16 | _unski | and we still have that bug which I already reported to the flyspray list one or two days ago |
02:52.38 | kNIGits | login failure? |
02:53.03 | kNIGits | do you hack the Flyspray code at all? |
02:53.40 | _unski | I had to hack so that I can login |
02:53.47 | _unski | yes |
02:53.57 | kNIGits | yes, your email said. did you hack before that? |
02:54.01 | _unski | (yes was for the "login failure" ) |
02:54.20 | _unski | I don't hack unless I have to |
02:54.23 | _unski | I can check diff |
02:54.53 | kNIGits | I'm adding some users to my test install for you to try |
02:57.43 | kNIGits | ok, I have three test users set up |
02:58.01 | _unski | ok |
02:58.04 | kNIGits | (their passwords are the same as usersnames) |
02:58.11 | _unski | where do you have it? |
02:58.35 | kNIGits | test1 - global Basic group - Project 3 PM group |
02:58.47 | kNIGits | test2 - global Basic group - Project 3 Users group |
02:59.04 | kNIGits | test3 - global Reporters group - no project memberships |
02:59.12 | kNIGits | http://throw.rocks.cc/flyspray-dev/ |
02:59.34 | kNIGits | damn, I meant Project 2 for all those |
03:00.24 | _unski | can you make test2 global developer? |
03:01.27 | kNIGits | sure |
03:01.46 | kNIGits | done |
03:01.58 | _unski | and can you make those projects not visible for all? |
03:02.31 | kNIGits | done |
03:02.48 | _unski | test2 sees 2 times private project |
03:02.58 | _unski | in "switch to..." |
03:03.12 | kNIGits | you're right |
03:05.25 | _unski | same effect when changing project of a task |
03:05.46 | kNIGits | but when the Private Project is actually private, it only appears in the list once |
03:05.57 | _unski | but since the layout seems to be different I can't reproduce the original issue |
03:06.30 | _unski | but these findings are most probably related |
03:06.44 | _unski | because the guy who used it reported that he didn't see the project when needed |
03:06.46 | kNIGits | probably |
03:07.01 | kNIGits | the new 'switch project' functionality is still very new |
03:07.05 | _unski | now global dev. sees "too much" |
03:07.28 | _unski | that authentication problem still exists |
03:07.37 | kNIGits | how about now? |
03:07.48 | kNIGits | which auth problem? |
03:08.01 | _unski | login problem |
03:08.41 | _unski | ok, it seems to work now |
03:08.44 | _unski | at least with test2 |
03:10.33 | kNIGits | I haven't been able to reproduce the login problem. you will have to give exact details about project prefs, user groups and permissions etc |
03:10.58 | _unski | well, it happens with all users |
03:11.31 | _unski | checkLogin $auth_details['group_open |
03:11.36 | _unski | uups |
03:11.52 | _unski | $auth_details['group_open'] = 0 which causes the login failure |
03:12.18 | _unski | what does that group_open mean? |
03:12.39 | kNIGits | it means that users can login |
03:12.59 | _unski | so admin group has no login ? |
03:13.10 | _unski | probably because no admin was able to login |
03:13.21 | kNIGits | admin group should have every permission set to '1' |
03:13.24 | _unski | but you cannot even change that in preferences |
03:13.32 | _unski | hmm |
03:13.59 | kNIGits | check your database. perhaps the group_open field was somehow set to '0' |
03:15.29 | _unski | all fields are '0' in admin group |
03:15.35 | _unski | except is_admin |
03:16.06 | _unski | I haven't done anything manually to that group |
03:16.07 | kNIGits | mine are all '1' :-) |
03:16.25 | _unski | hmm |
03:16.39 | _unski | it's easy to fix |
03:16.43 | kNIGits | ahh, I think that I know |
03:17.03 | _unski | tell me |
03:17.34 | kNIGits | if you clicked the 'Update details' button when looking at the Admin group... it sets all fields to zero |
03:18.13 | kNIGits | stupid bug |
03:18.20 | _unski | ok, I understand the logic |
03:18.21 | kNIGits | I never used to have the button there |
03:20.57 | kNIGits | I remember that someone complained that they couldn't edit the Admin description, so a dev must have put the button back |
03:22.03 | _unski | and here we are :) |
03:23.53 | _unski | I have to say that "switch to..." bar always up there is very confusing |
03:24.43 | _unski | for example, if you are adding a new task and you are in wrong project you have to switch to the right project first |
03:24.51 | _unski | and then click "add new task" |
03:25.12 | _unski | in new task form there is no possibility to change the project |
03:26.03 | _unski | the confusion comes from the fact that user easily tries to change the project for new task from there |
03:26.09 | _unski | just like I did 5 minutes ago |
03:26.24 | _unski | I was wondering then that why on earth was the task in wrong project |
03:27.29 | kNIGits | that's how it should work. if you are adding a new task to the wrong project, you should be able to switch to the right one |
03:28.49 | _unski | well, it's a matter of opinion always |
03:29.09 | _unski | btw. assigned to field in the task list is not showing the assignees |
03:29.10 | kNIGits | hmm, something's broken here. I can't login as super anymore |
03:29.19 | kNIGits | yes, that's known |
03:29.20 | _unski | I guess it's still to be done? |
03:29.34 | _unski | did you nullify admin group rights? ;) |
03:29.42 | kNIGits | yes, but I changed them back |
03:29.42 | _unski | I know a very fast way to do that |
03:30.08 | kNIGits | ahh, I see what I did. |
03:33.24 | _unski | ok |
03:33.28 | _unski | I have to get to bed soon |
03:33.42 | _unski | it's 5.30 AM(!) here in Finland |
03:34.12 | kNIGits | eek |
03:34.17 | kNIGits | you should get OUT of bed soon |
03:34.54 | _unski | well, my rhythm is a bit funny nowadays |
03:35.08 | _unski | being a fulltime student again is taking its toll :) |
03:35.41 | _unski | but good night and I'll be waiting for fixes |
03:35.54 | kNIGits | I look forward to you being here again, g'nite |
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06:24.25 | kNIGits | morning floele |
06:27.00 | kNIGits | we found a few issues with your 'switch project' feature :-) |
06:40.12 | floele | let me hear :) |
06:40.23 | kNIGits | heh |
06:40.51 | kNIGits | if I'm on an Admin Toolbox page, and switch project, I get the same page, but with blank entries |
06:41.46 | floele | doesn't happen in my bts |
06:42.18 | kNIGits | really? |
06:42.48 | kNIGits | try editing a global group, then switching |
06:43.46 | floele | ok, that "works" |
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06:47.54 | kNIGits_ | oops |
06:48.36 | floele | I have an idea how to fix this bug...I'll try it |
06:48.41 | kNIGits | the last thing I got from you was "ok, that works". did I miss anything? |
06:48.55 | floele | nope |
06:48.59 | kNIGits | yay |
06:52.01 | kNIGits | I'm not sure where the user should be taken |
06:53.15 | floele | it happens because id=X is missingn in the URL |
06:55.50 | floele | looks like the fix works |
06:55.57 | kNIGits | great |
06:56.12 | kNIGits | btw, I made my annual svn commit today, so you'd better update :-) |
06:56.32 | floele | I already noticed |
06:57.26 | floele | I am not quite sure about the fix though |
06:57.39 | floele | I guess it needs a little improvement |
06:57.43 | kNIGits | my fix or yours? |
06:58.15 | floele | my one of course ;) |
07:00.20 | floele | where else does this error occur? |
07:03.33 | kNIGits | haven't really checked beyond that |
07:12.31 | kNIGits | here's an idea for the tasklist: http://www.activewidgets.com/javascript.forum.5593.0/help.html |
07:23.24 | floele | hm |
07:23.47 | floele | what advantage does it have? |
09:38.20 | tda | kNIGits, could you please try activewidgets demo in konqueror? My konqueror has javascripe enabled globally but does not display the grid while firefox does. |
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10:41.21 | wserg | Hello, is there anybody? |
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11:28.35 | tda | kNIGits, could you please try activewidgets demo in konqueror? My konqueror has javascripe enabled globally but does not display the grid while firefox does. |
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15:50.18 | MadCoder | *g* |
15:50.24 | MadCoder | I finally uploaded update1 to debian |
15:50.31 | MadCoder | !lart macnewbold |
15:50.34 | MadCoder | argh |
15:50.36 | MadCoder | !lart MadCoder |
15:50.39 | MadCoder | ~lart MadCoder |
16:32.55 | macnewbold | g'day all |
16:36.00 | macnewbold | ~bonk MadCoder |
16:36.02 | jbot | ACTION bonks MadCoder over the head |
16:36.40 | MadCoder | heeey |
16:36.49 | MadCoder | ~lart jbot (my head is touchy) |
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17:31.57 | tda | hi all - wild west here? |
17:32.07 | MrBIOS-work | guten morgen |
17:32.29 | tda | Hallo MrBIOS |
17:32.53 | tda | Schöne Fräulein at your work? :-) |
17:33.12 | MrBIOS-work | guess you're not using unicode :) |
17:33.35 | tda | Oh, I am not. Don't know about xchat... |
17:33.55 | floele | Hi |
17:33.58 | MrBIOS-work | all IRC should ues UTF8 IMHO :) |
17:34.40 | MrBIOS-work | there is a way with xchat |
17:34.58 | tda | Alt-F4 - like windows |
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17:37.04 | tda | äöüÄÖÜß??? |
17:37.21 | tda | Does that look like the strange german umlauts? |
17:39.02 | floele | it does for me |
17:39.13 | tda | Danke :-) |
17:39.35 | floele | but it did before too ;) |
17:39.38 | MrBIOS-work | I get question marks...perhaps my crappy client is to blame |
17:40.09 | tda | I have no idea if xchat is really using UTF8 or just pretending... |
17:40.12 | MrBIOS-work | it says my encoding is set to UTF8 |
17:40.22 | MrBIOS-work | I suspect it's not, if floele can see them but I cannot |
17:40.41 | tda | floele also has a german charset installed. |
17:40.41 | MrBIOS-work | I don't seem to ever have had a problem with non-latin1 text before. |
17:40.55 | tda | so it IS my client. |
17:41.14 | MrBIOS-work | yes he does, which lends significant weight to the likelihood that your client isn't spewing out UTF8. No worries, though. |
17:41.59 | MrBIOS-work | That's about the worst way I can imagine to wake up short of starvation and physical harm |
17:45.07 | tda | floele: Benutzt Du Jabber? Ich wollte mal PSI testen. |
17:45.16 | floele | ja |
17:45.35 | floele | floele@jabber.org |
17:46.21 | MrBIOS-work | "As reported on the Mars-net email list Flight Refuelling Amateur Radio Society's resident satcom + WLAN guru Paul J. Marsh (M0EYT) has managed to detect and receive NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter on X band at a staggering range of 45 million miles from Earth using a home made receiver setup and a RFspace SDR-14 software radio." |
17:46.26 | MrBIOS-work | very cool |
17:50.14 | tda | not bad. |
17:51.16 | MrBIOS-work | the power of Software Defined Radios is amazing |
18:29.51 | floele | tda? |
18:30.06 | macnewbold | ~tda |
18:30.09 | macnewbold | ~wtf tda |
18:31.58 | floele | ~wake tda |
18:31.59 | jbot | tda: GOOD MORNING!!! |
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18:43.29 | MrBIOS-work | This is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=zLElfJ9YCh0 |
18:43.45 | MrBIOS-work | an EXCELLENT rap parody |
18:43.54 | MrBIOS-work | (music video) |
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19:41.01 | MrBIOS-work | are you guys working on PDO support for PHP? |
19:41.06 | MrBIOS-work | for Flyspray, rather? |
19:43.10 | tda | PDO is just great! |
19:45.11 | MrBIOS-work | yes, but that's not what I asked ;-) |
19:45.17 | floele | I don't think that we will work soon on that though. PHP 5.1 isn't widespread enough ;) |
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19:45.35 | MrBIOS-work | floele: sure but you could support both PDO and ADODB for an interim period, yes? |
19:46.13 | floele | how would you do that? maintain 2 versions of flyspray? |
19:46.13 | MrBIOS-work | and PDO is available for earlier versions of PHP, just not enabled by default |
19:47.33 | floele | I don't think that we should prefer it because we developers make use of it. I don't want anyone to install extensions for PHP only to run flyspray |
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19:53.59 | tda | As I know how much work such a change is: This should be considered carefully. |
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19:54.48 | tda | PDO is great but as flyspray works very well the way it is, this should be a request targeted to dec.06 earliest. |
19:57.04 | tda | From my point of view PDO needs to show that it works before. Even if it was available before that does not prove it works as good as ADO. Nevertheless, I like the concept. |
19:57.10 | floele | habe grade noch was an der roadmap verbessert (sorry, jabber geht bei mir grade nicht) |
19:57.28 | floele | einmal CSS aktualisieren |
19:57.30 | tda | Hab ich gemerkt :-) |
19:57.44 | floele | sieht besser aus so, oder? |
19:57.55 | tda | Wäre es möglich, "Roadmap für Version" vor die Versionsnummer zu schreiben? |
19:58.23 | floele | naja, obendrüber steht doch auch schon roadmap |
19:58.42 | tda | coooool |
19:58.53 | tda | Die Farben kommen gut. |
19:59.02 | floele | hab ich mir auch gedacht :) |
20:00.29 | tda | Hmm, überlege gerade... Wenn die Roadmap 50 Punkte hat, muss man jeden einmal anklicken, um die Erläuterung zu sehen. Aber immerhin ist es möglich. |
20:01.20 | floele | ne, ein "expand-all" knpof ist schon in planung |
20:02.01 | tda | Könntest Du nach jedem Detail noch eine Leerzeile einbauen? Dann kann man den Text mit Copy&Paste in einen Editor einfügen. |
20:02.50 | tda | Zur Zeit ist in diesem Fall eine Leerzeile zwischen Zusammenfassung und Detail, danach aber nicht. |
20:03.16 | floele | stimmt |
20:03.52 | tda | Gefällt mir richtig gut! |
20:04.20 | floele | freut mich :) |
20:04.37 | tda | Habt Ihr Aufgabe #nnn in FS#nnn umbenannt? |
20:05.18 | floele | probier das mit dem leerzeichen nochmal |
20:05.23 | floele | ne, das war schon immer so |
20:06.26 | tda | Wir hatten im Support immer den Streit, wie die Dinge heißen. Ich wollte Trouble Ticket (TT), aber das waren die Initialen meines engl. Vorgesetzten und der wollte das absolut nicht. Also haben wir in Deutschland TT benutzt und die in England PR für problem report :-) ID wäre für eine Roadmap am neutralsten. FS muss man erklären. |
20:07.21 | floele | das stimmt woh |
20:07.25 | floele | l |
20:07.31 | floele | alternativ "bug nn" |
20:08.02 | tda | Aber ein Feature ist eben doch kein bug. (Auch wenn bei uns alles rot ist :-) |
20:08.22 | floele | also hättest du gerne das kürzel ID#nn in FS? |
20:09.01 | tda | Für die Roadmap wäre das wahrscheinlich besser, da ID nicht erklärt werden muss, wenn man die Roadmap nach außen gibt. |
20:10.10 | floele | hm, ich weiß aber nicht ob ich das einfach in FS einbauen kann - vll änderst du bei dir im BTS einfach die entsprechende stelle |
20:10.29 | tda | Liegt das an meiner Darstellung oder steht im Quellcode "do=details&id=2" anstatt "do=details&id=2" |
20:10.54 | floele | das ist so |
20:10.57 | floele | bzw. muss so |
20:10.58 | tda | Ach so, der String kommt aus der Datenbank? Dann lass es so. |
20:11.21 | floele | includes/class.tpl.php Zeile 209 |
20:11.38 | floele | also bei der dev-version |
20:11.45 | tda | oops, habe den Quellcode nur auf dem Server im Internet... |
20:12.04 | floele | und evtl noch zeile 433 |
20:12.25 | floele | musste dir mal angucken bei gelegenheit ;) |
20:12.44 | tda | Mach ich doch gleich mal. |
20:12.56 | floele | vll sollte es dafür auch eine einstellung in Flyspray geben sodass jedes project/produkt ein eigene kürzel hat |
20:13.18 | tda | Ist zwar aufwändiger, aber natürlich auch eleganter. |
20:13.21 | floele | am besten du fragst mal kNIGits, wenn er OK sagt kann ich das einbauen |
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20:13.39 | floele | oder ich frage ihn wenn ich ihn vor dir sehe ;) |
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20:15.38 | floele | wie war das jetzt mit "roadmap for Version#"? |
20:16.08 | tda | Oh, bei unserer Version gab es class.tpl.php noch nicht... |
20:16.34 | tda | Mom, ich kopiere den Text noch mal kurz in den Editor für roadmap... |
20:17.15 | floele | sag ja, das geht nur für 0.9.9 |
20:17.38 | floele | 0.9.7 gucke ich mir besser nicht mehr an ;) |
20:17.43 | tda | Hmm, bei uns würde damit dort stehen "Roadmap for Technischer Support M... Technologies" |
20:18.18 | tda | :-) Ich bin schuld. Wir haben das Upgrade verschlafen. |
20:18.38 | floele | naja, 0.9.9 ist wie du vielleicht weiß noch nicht fertig |
20:18.45 | floele | und da gibt's verschiedene versionen beim support? |
20:19.20 | tda | Eben nicht. Da wir nur ein Produkt haben, launchen wir Version 3.0 des Produktes. Aber das Projekt heisst zur Zeit so. |
20:19.45 | floele | aso |
20:20.21 | tda | Ich fände es schöner, wenn dort stände "Roadmap for 1.0" und in der Überschrift nur das Projekt. |
20:20.37 | floele | mal ausprobieren ;) |
20:20.53 | tda | Letztendlich kann ich aber sehr gut mit der jetzigen Lösung leben, da ich den Text eh in einen ASCII Editor paste. |
20:21.11 | floele | und? |
20:21.11 | tda | Und die Roadmap erscheint garantiert nicht jeden Tag. |
20:21.25 | tda | Also kann man das locker manuell ändern. |
20:21.55 | floele | ich denke aber auch dass es so besser ist. "1.0" ist immer so wenig text für eine überschrift |
20:21.59 | tda | Aber für den Online-Zugriff sieht es wahrscheinlich besser aus, wenn Roadmap bei der Version steht, statt im Projekt. |
20:22.41 | tda | Gefällt mir |
20:22.57 | floele | gut |
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20:23.45 | tda | Oder soll dort noch das Wort "version" stehen? |
20:24.17 | tda | Da es in den Eingabefeldern steht, wird sich (hoffentlich) niemand die Mühe machen und das nochmal in das Feld selbst eintragen. |
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20:25.05 | tda | Berichtete Version 2.35, Fällig in Version 3.00 |
20:25.20 | tda | Keine Ahnung, wie das im Original heisst. |
20:25.47 | floele | "due in version" |
20:25.55 | floele | ich finde die übersetzung nicht so toll |
20:26.01 | floele | naja, hab es mal geändert |
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20:26.22 | tda | Ich habe noch was entdeckt. |
20:26.39 | tda | Die Roadmap darf nur Dinge enthalten, die angenommen wurden. |
20:27.00 | tda | -> Assigned |
20:27.01 | floele | aber wenn etwas "due in" hat ist es doch angenommen? |
20:27.10 | floele | ne, das muss nicht |
20:27.26 | floele | es gibt auch aufgaben um die sich noch keiner kümmert, die aber noch erledigt werden müssen |
20:28.05 | tda | Solange kein non-admin das due Datum setzen darf, funktioniert das natürlich. Logo. |
20:28.30 | tda | Nee, due in version... nicht due date. Oder? |
20:28.54 | floele | ja |
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20:29.01 | floele | aber non.admins können das nicht |
20:29.05 | floele | entwickler vielleicht noch |
20:29.24 | tda | dann ist das ja kein Problem. Sonst könnte ja jeder die Roadmap mitbestimmen :-)) |
20:29.33 | floele | wär ja noch schöner wenn die benutzer neuderings entscheiden können *wann* etwas fertiggestellt wird ;) |
20:29.52 | floele | dann müssen sie schon gut bezahlen ;) |
20:30.35 | tda | Mit Version gefällt mir erheblich besser. |
20:31.39 | floele | gut gut |
20:31.53 | floele | wo denkst du könnte ich den link hinsetzen mit dem man alles aufklappt? |
20:32.14 | tda | Hinter Roadmap for version? |
20:32.29 | tda | Schau mal: "50% 48% of 4 tasks completed. 3 open tasks:" |
20:32.32 | floele | hm, wär vielleicht nicht schlecht |
20:32.56 | tda | Die Grafik sagt im Alt-Text 50%, der Text dahinter 48% :-) |
20:33.13 | floele | so besser? |
20:33.41 | floele | vergiss nicht dass man das ding auch ausdrucken kann ;) |
20:33.44 | floele | also richtig |
20:33.56 | tda | ?? Ich sehe keinen Unterschied. |
20:34.24 | floele | der alt-text ist weg |
20:35.58 | tda | Die Textdarstellung ist besser. Die behindertengerechte Darstellung dafür weg. Schwer zu sagen... |
20:37.02 | tda | Braucht man die Grafik überhaupt? |
20:38.06 | tda | Oh, ich sehe gerade, dass die Grafik vergrößert ist. Klein gefällt sie mir auch. (wie wäre es hinter "Roadmap for..."?) |
20:38.14 | floele | langsam ;) |
20:38.43 | tda | ok :) |
20:38.52 | floele | die "behindertengerechte Darstellung" ist nicht weg, da der text noch vorhanden ist |
20:39.02 | floele | es ist sogar besser so |
20:39.24 | floele | oder willst du 50% 48$ of bla completed hören? |
20:39.32 | floele | die grafik braucht man |
20:39.43 | floele | das macht den status sofort klar |
20:39.58 | floele | ob man sie lieber kleiner macht - weiß ich nicht |
20:40.31 | tda | Soweit ich weiß, stellt der IE nicht das title, sondern das alt-tag als bubblehelp dar. |
20:40.38 | tda | Halt MS. |
20:40.42 | floele | das weiß ich |
20:40.47 | floele | aber stört mich nicht ;) |
20:40.57 | floele | beim IE sieht sowieso alles doof aus |
20:40.57 | tda | :-) LOL |
20:41.35 | tda | Die haben nicht wirklich die Absicht, die Standards zu unterstützen. kNIGits hat ja auch so ein schönes Beispiel auf seiner Site. |
20:41.52 | tda | Also: Mir gefällt es so. |
20:42.10 | tda | Kleiner würde mir auch gefallen. |
20:42.13 | tda | egal |
20:42.45 | floele | du kannst es ja nacher im template beliebig ändern |
20:43.09 | tda | OK, hinter der Roadmap wäre "float". Das ist ein wenig ätzend zu schreiben... |
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20:43.51 | floele | float? |
20:45.09 | tda | style="float:right; margin-left:10px;" |
20:45.10 | kNIGits | g'morning all |
20:45.17 | tda | hello |
20:45.34 | floele | Hi |
20:45.41 | floele | was ist mit dem float? |
20:45.53 | floele | kNIGits: http://gosdaturacatala-zucht.de/flyspray/?do=roadmap |
20:46.00 | tda | floele: Im H3 tag: <h3 style="..."></h3><img...> |
20:46.04 | floele | you like it too? |
20:46.31 | floele | was soll das dann bringen? bild neben überschrift? |
20:46.33 | tda | Jo. |
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20:47.53 | floele | naja, muss ich mal schaun |
20:47.59 | floele | hab erstmal expand-all reingesetzt |
20:48.09 | floele | musst dazu auf roadmap for ... clicken |
20:49.23 | kNIGits | interesting |
20:49.28 | tda | Spitze! |
20:49.33 | tda | =great!! |
20:51.08 | floele | ok :) |
20:51.10 | kNIGits | does the roadmap really need to have task details on it, or were you just playing around? |
20:51.22 | floele | tda wants it ;) |
20:51.36 | kNIGits | ~lart tda |
20:52.01 | floele | did you have a look at my latest patches? |
20:52.14 | kNIGits | not yet, I only just got out of bed :-P |
20:52.18 | floele | ok |
20:53.27 | kNIGits | I'm guessing that you committed wiki formatting? |
20:53.36 | floele | yep |
20:53.42 | floele | and some search features |
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20:54.07 | tda | kNIGits: what is ~lart????? |
20:54.15 | tda | ~lart kNIGits |
20:54.22 | floele | ~lart |
20:54.34 | floele | Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool |
20:54.38 | floele | wie auch immer |
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20:55.23 | floele | ~wtf lart |
20:55.32 | kNIGits | heh, anders committed a replacement for switchcontent already |
20:57.18 | kNIGits | pity it's a bit buggy :-( |
20:57.41 | floele | indeed |
20:57.48 | floele | but I am sure that he'll fix it |
20:58.06 | kNIGits | no cookie to remember state, and the +/- is wrong when you first open the page |
21:01.25 | kNIGits | ok, I've caught up on my mail |
21:04.09 | kNIGits | sorry for killing the german conversation. I'll go again |
21:06.47 | floele | no, I think we were done ;) |
21:07.03 | floele | so, any comments on my patches? |
21:07.48 | kNIGits | the 'search for all words' checkbox |
21:08.11 | kNIGits | if it's not checked, it searches for tasks containing one of the search words? |
21:08.22 | floele | yes |
21:08.50 | kNIGits | and if it IS checked it searches for tasks containing all the words... together, or any of the words anywhere in the task? |
21:09.09 | floele | all words anywhere in a task |
21:09.36 | kNIGits | so the words don't have to be next to each other |
21:09.42 | floele | correct |
21:10.58 | kNIGits | ok then. the old way would only search for all words together, right? |
21:11.33 | floele | yes |
21:11.41 | kNIGits | thought so |
21:11.43 | floele | and this is confusing I think |
21:12.45 | kNIGits | ok, without checked it is boolean OR. with checked it is boolean AND |
21:12.51 | kNIGits | the old way was a phrase search |
21:13.01 | floele | yep |
21:14.39 | kNIGits | it's good, but I would still like my phrase search :-) |
21:14.39 | MrBIOS-work | my boss wants to request a feature in Flyspray :) |
21:14.40 | kNIGits | oh? hit me |
21:14.40 | MrBIOS-work | he wants bugreports to be able to be posted for review/preview by him before actually going live. |
21:14.54 | MrBIOS-work | so our employees can submit them, then he can actually make them good reports. |
21:15.09 | floele | kNIGits: maybe I should add a feature "my+phrase"? |
21:15.15 | MrBIOS-work | something like email notification plus a column to mark each bug as "pre-posted" or something |
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21:16.15 | MrBIOS-work | I dont know if any other bugtrackers have any sort of thing like that |
21:16.33 | MrBIOS-work | its necessary for a couple of reasons. otherwise we have to work around the bugreport system |
21:16.52 | MrBIOS-work | by having people mail my boss directly with the info, then he has to enter it into the system and flesh it out again |
21:17.13 | kNIGits | floele, that could work |
21:17.23 | tda | Does the state-change not do that for you MrBIOS? |
21:17.25 | floele | ok, I'll keep it in mind |
21:17.59 | tda | Currently we work around this by hiding each new entry manually. |
21:18.15 | kNIGits | sounds like he wants unconfirmed tasks to be hidden from everyone except project managers |
21:18.32 | floele | I'll go to bed now, cya |
21:18.41 | kNIGits | oh! ok, g'nite floele |
21:18.50 | kNIGits | thanks for your work today |
21:18.54 | tda | c.u. floele. And thank you again!!!! |
21:18.54 | MrBIOS-work | yes essentially...but then also to have notifications of the unconfirmed tasks sent to him so he knows new bugs need review. |
21:18.57 | floele | my pleasure :) |
21:20.09 | tda | In the commercial world some competitor could otherwise add some misinformation for other customers. (just an example) |
21:20.55 | kNIGits | the only problem is that if a customer enters a real bug, and it's hidden, he might think that it's not yet added, and try to add it again |
21:21.13 | tda | right |
21:22.12 | tda | So if it would be excluded from the list view until processed and the user gets a "thank you - we will review your report" message? |
21:23.22 | tda | Well, as we still use 0.9.7 I currently do not get email notification at all as there was an issue with the paths. I'm sure that is fixed now. |
21:24.43 | kNIGits | 0.9.7? that's way old |
21:26.48 | tda | well - it works :-) |
21:27.02 | kNIGits | it has some nasty bugs tho |
21:27.18 | tda | I know. Should I upgrade *now*?? |
21:27.27 | kNIGits | to 0.9.8, yes |
21:27.32 | kNIGits | Update1 |
21:27.52 | kNIGits | fixes security bugs... |
21:28.31 | tda | It has about 160 entries. (2 bugs, the rest is roadmap) |
21:29.08 | kNIGits | if you're worried about the upgrader, backup your database tables |
21:29.14 | tda | Is there a security issue with the login screen itself? Only known people have an account. |
21:29.47 | tda | :-) I back up the database every night, even if this is a remote server. |
21:30.17 | tda | ~larc tda |
21:30.24 | tda | ~lark tda |
21:30.40 | tda | ~lart tda |
21:30.50 | tda | ~lart tda |
21:30.57 | tda | nonononono!!1 |
21:31.04 | tda | ~lart tda |
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21:35.56 | kNIGits | welcome back, Le6o |
21:36.11 | Le6o | hi, |
21:38.17 | tda | kNIGits: can I just copy over existing files? i.e. replace 0.9.7 files by 0.9.8 files? |
21:38.56 | kNIGits | you can do that. personally, I remove everything but the attachments/ directory, and then copy in the new files. that way no legacy files are taking up space |
21:39.07 | tda | thx |
21:39.58 | kNIGits | back up your flyspray.conf.php so that you can refer to the old settings if you need to. the 0.9.8 installer is a bit quirky |
21:40.44 | tda | yes, I wanted to rename the dir... |
21:40.49 | kNIGits | ensure that there is a blank flyspray.conf.php file in flyspray's root, and that the webserver can write to it |
21:41.49 | tda | Did you add something to the conf file?? Otherwise I could just use the current one... |
21:42.14 | kNIGits | there is new stuff, yes |
21:42.33 | kNIGits | you need to have a blank one for the installer/upgrader to run |
21:42.42 | tda | ok. |
21:42.50 | kNIGits | it's silly, and I didn't want it that way... but I wasn't the one writing it |
21:44.49 | MrBIOS-work | kNIGits: the way our workflow is, that is not a problem, since everyone entering bugs will know they aren't going active. |
21:45.04 | MrBIOS-work | you could even have that stated in the e-mail notification |
21:51.07 | tda | Found a minor error: After installation the URL is .../setup instead of .../setup/index.php. We took some measures that index.php is *not* called automatically. |
21:55.31 | tda | kNIGits: oops, cannot call setup/index.php and have no bad entry in error.log |
21:56.16 | kNIGits | you can probably do the upgrade manually, but you'd need to search old svn revisions for a copy of upgrade_attachments.php |
21:58.19 | MrBIOS-work | kNIGits: does that make sense? |
22:01.37 | tda | If I do an install, what about the current database content? Does it need to be converted? |
22:01.53 | tda | Or must I use upgrade? |
22:02.18 | kNIGits | the database structure had changed a little, yes |
22:02.43 | kNIGits | some content needs to be shuffled around to suit the new comments+files attachment system |
22:02.54 | tda | So clean install you meant the files only? |
22:03.09 | kNIGits | I don't understand that question |
22:03.20 | MrBIOS-work | that's because it's nonsensical :) |
22:04.26 | tda | :-) OK, I understood. |
22:09.28 | tda | Hmm, I can login... using my old account ... but there are no tickets... |
22:11.01 | tda | There are no operating systems defined (were ... a lot), no versions any more (were a lot too) |
22:12.44 | tda | Fatal error: gettaskdetails(): Failed opening required 'lang/de/status.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear:/var/www/mainskill/extranet/support') in /var/www/mainskill/extranet/support/includes/functions.inc.php on line 192 |
22:14.58 | tda | YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!! It rocks! |
22:15.10 | kNIGits | hmm? |
22:16.00 | tda | Installation worked. |
22:16.13 | kNIGits | with a bit of trouble, it looks like |
22:16.26 | tda | How can I select the number of lines to display in the new pager? |
22:16.41 | kNIGits | in your profile |
22:16.56 | tda | That's better than in 0.9.7 |
22:17.40 | tda | The problems above came from my language setting. |
22:18.28 | tda | The database contained german but 0.9.8 was engl. So some files in lang/de were missing and some items were just not displayed. |
22:23.22 | MrBIOS-work | why didn't you guys version 0.9.8 as 0.9.9? |
22:23.32 | tda | seems I need to support floele a bit with german translation. He already told me... |
22:24.21 | kNIGits | MrBIOS-work, I don't understand that question, either |
22:24.41 | tda | :) |
22:24.49 | tda | sorry |
22:24.55 | MrBIOS-work | Why didn't you make 0.9.8pre1 versioned as 0.9.9? |
22:25.26 | kNIGits | I don't recall making a 0.9.8pre1 |
22:25.47 | MrBIOS-work | sorry, not pre1 |
22:25.53 | MrBIOS-work | the update to 0.9.8 |
22:26.03 | MrBIOS-work | why didn't you just release it as 0.9.9? |
22:26.13 | kNIGits | because all it did was fix a couple of nasty bugs |
22:26.29 | MrBIOS-work | so what? that's certainly worthy of a new release. |
22:26.49 | kNIGits | the plan is to have all the good features in 0.9.9, then 1.0 will be the bugfixed version |
22:27.21 | MrBIOS-work | well, about 20 people would LOVE to ese this feature I requested :) |
22:27.36 | MrBIOS-work | and I suspect it would be useful for other groups |
22:27.46 | MrBIOS-work | its great for politically charged situations |
22:27.57 | MrBIOS-work | because then the requests aren't coming directly through from an underling to a programmer. |
22:28.18 | MrBIOS-work | a lot of managers don't like the idea of that because it does break the chain of command, so to speak. |
22:28.35 | MrBIOS-work | but they do recognize the value of a bugtracker |
22:32.40 | tda | I support the idea because we have a similar problem. If a customer enteres a trouble ticket we would like to release it before some other customers sees the ticket. Let's call it we want some level of control about customer's trouble tickets. |
22:33.20 | tda | The commercial world is not really working together like the community. |
22:34.33 | kNIGits | well, the 'community' isn't working well together either |
22:34.45 | tda | So for our request it would be enough if tickets not accepted yet were only visible to development and above. |
22:35.01 | tda | oh, I thought so... |
22:35.41 | tda | About Jabber: Should I create an account just for flyspray?? |
22:36.25 | tda | Do you have a jabber account of its own for flyspray?? |
22:36.37 | kNIGits | I do |
22:36.46 | kNIGits | it just forwards flyspray notifications, nothing else |
22:37.59 | tda | So I'll create one in swizerland. They have better laws that we have... |
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22:44.46 | chillywilly | flyspray rocks |
22:44.48 | chillywilly | that is all |
22:44.55 | kNIGits | thank you, and goodnight :-) |
22:45.29 | chillywilly | no no no, thank YOU |
22:45.51 | chillywilly | I shoudl be beaten for even looking at any other bug/issues/task tracker |
22:45.56 | kNIGits | don't throw flowers, we prefer the bruises from being hit by money :-D |
22:46.01 | chillywilly | my humble apologies |
22:46.10 | chillywilly | lol |
22:46.19 | kNIGits | kidding, of course. my wife loves flowers |
22:49.00 | kNIGits | I'm glad you like our tool. anything you think it needs? |
22:51.06 | MrBIOS-work | manager approval system ;-) |
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22:51.21 | tda | Is there any way to test the jabber connection of FS works? |
22:51.30 | kNIGits | trigger a notification? |
22:51.31 | tda | ~lart MrBIOS-work |
22:51.37 | MrBIOS-work | jbot: :) |
22:51.40 | jbot | (: |
22:51.45 | MrBIOS-work | =] |
22:51.56 | tda | kNIGits: yes |
22:54.52 | tda | jbot: hello world |
22:54.54 | jbot | from memory, hello world is 10 PRINT "Hello World!", or perl -e 'print "Hello World!\n";', or int main() { puts("Hello World!"); } |
22:55.22 | tda | small things make kids happy :-) |
22:57.59 | chillywilly | kNIGits: it needs to make a mean cup of java |
22:58.13 | chillywilly | kNIGits: how about some better reporting ;)? |
22:58.27 | chillywilly | kNIGits: pretty graphs that make the bosses happy |
22:58.30 | chillywilly | ;P |
22:59.31 | MrBIOS-work | just the most crude of statistics would be a good start |
22:59.38 | chillywilly | yea |
22:59.41 | MrBIOS-work | wow, me speak good engrish |
23:00.02 | chillywilly | this is the one weakness in flyspray...if you're going to track tasks then you need to know wtf you're spending the most time on |
23:00.09 | chillywilly | and such |
23:00.20 | MrBIOS-work | yes |
23:00.58 | chillywilly | how frequently the same issues arise |
23:01.05 | chillywilly | who is sucking most of your time |
23:01.09 | chillywilly | crap like that |
23:01.23 | MrBIOS-work | yes, who constantly submits miscategorized bugs :) |
23:01.34 | MrBIOS-work | who submits the most bugs that ultimately get fixed |
23:01.40 | MrBIOS-work | who submits the most bogus bugs |
23:01.44 | chillywilly | who fixes the most bugs |
23:01.52 | MrBIOS-work | ad infinitum |
23:02.28 | kNIGits | right |
23:02.45 | MrBIOS-work | lies, damn lies, and statistics |
23:02.46 | kNIGits | the reports page was submitted by someone who hasn't had the time to enhance it, or even keep it up-to-date |
23:03.04 | MrBIOS-work | understantable, you take what you cna get |
23:03.04 | chillywilly | you guys ever use trac? |
23:03.13 | chillywilly | they have a nifty report builder |
23:03.14 | kNIGits | no, but I've seen it. very nice looking |
23:03.48 | kNIGits | as you requested... |
23:04.00 | kNIGits | ~lart chillywilly |
23:04.09 | kNIGits | whoa, that was nasty |
23:04.22 | tda | So we should use floele's roadmap module to collect items like this? |
23:04.33 | MrBIOS-work | da |
23:04.46 | kNIGits | ok guys, I'm afk for a bit |
23:04.51 | tda | www.mrbios-work.ru ?? |
23:10.44 | chillywilly | trac has some really cool stuff in it |
23:10.58 | chillywilly | if it did a multi-project type view of things I'd probabyl use it |
23:11.14 | chillywilly | but it only works well for 1 project and I am not a 1 project man |
23:11.16 | chillywilly | ;) |
23:11.43 | chillywilly | hell I even looked at CollabNet (that thing is scary) |
23:11.59 | chillywilly | can't even log in to the thing anymore |
23:12.14 | chillywilly | and now they're going to call be 5 days before my free trial is up (bah) |
23:14.41 | chillywilly | s/be/me/ |
23:15.10 | chillywilly | the collab.net web UI is fugly too |
23:22.28 | chillywilly | wake up ppl |
23:22.35 | chillywilly | :) |
23:22.41 | kNIGits | Flyspray started out as single project |
23:22.43 | chillywilly | weee, almost time to go home |
23:22.52 | kNIGits | multi-project was one of the first requests |
23:23.08 | MrBIOS-work | chillywilly: where are you, CST? |
23:23.10 | chillywilly | well the trac 2.0 milestone says they will implement proper muilti-project support |
23:23.18 | chillywilly | yes |
23:23.32 | chillywilly | in the grest white nort ;) |
23:23.45 | chillywilly | j/k, WI actually but close enough |
23:24.31 | chillywilly | great too |
23:25.08 | chillywilly | there's no way to remove a project eh? |
23:25.11 | macnewbold | nope |
23:25.13 | macnewbold | intentionally |
23:25.17 | chillywilly | what if you fuckup and now have a duplicate? |
23:25.18 | MrBIOS-work | I complained about that as well :) |
23:25.26 | chillywilly | it just sits there forever |
23:25.39 | macnewbold | chillywilly: this channel is rated PG, please watch your language |
23:25.47 | chillywilly | I have 2 project with the same name now :-/ |
23:25.55 | macnewbold | rename one of them? |
23:26.12 | macnewbold | right |
23:26.14 | macnewbold | that's the other way |
23:26.28 | kNIGits | hahaha, macnewbold |
23:26.39 | macnewbold | once a project has groups, tasks, categories, etc., its just too hard to delete one safely |
23:26.47 | kNIGits | MrBIOS-work is the worst language offender, but I've not bashed him up yet |
23:27.06 | MrBIOS-work | sorry, didn't know it was frowned upon |
23:27.08 | macnewbold | well, okay |
23:27.11 | macnewbold | :( |
23:27.16 | MrBIOS-work | most channels don't give a sh** |
23:27.16 | chillywilly | I am a big boy and my mommy says I can watch R ratee movies now |
23:27.19 | macnewbold | I may be the only one who frowns on it ;) |
23:27.28 | MrBIOS-work | chillywilly: that's my take on it as well |
23:27.28 | chillywilly | <PROTECTED> |
23:27.30 | macnewbold | I'm from utah, what can I say... |
23:27.30 | chillywilly | ;P |
23:27.41 | chillywilly | are you mormon? |
23:27.44 | MrBIOS-work | macnewbold: then utah should have its own special IRC servers |
23:28.05 | chillywilly | just let it go... |
23:28.19 | chillywilly | is it time to go home yet? |
23:28.25 | macnewbold | the other channels I hang out in are #uphpu and #utah, both of which are also self-regulated |
23:28.36 | macnewbold | chillywilly: yes, I am |
23:28.56 | chillywilly | sorry ;) |
23:29.15 | kNIGits | I prefer not to use profanity where possible, but I don't kick/ban anyone for it |
23:29.25 | macnewbold | I just have never seen a need for foul language, so it still is a little hard on the ears/eyes, and most people I talk to (online or otherwise) are polite enough not to use it where it is found offensive |
23:29.31 | macnewbold | right, kNIGits, same here |
23:29.40 | MrBIOS-work | most of the mormons I know are "jack mormons" |
23:29.41 | macnewbold | unless they're just being offensive for the sake of being offensive |
23:30.00 | macnewbold | MrBIOS-work: yeah, unfortunately, about half, give or take, fall into that category |
23:30.03 | kNIGits | I try not to say anything in IRC that I wouldn't say IRL |
23:30.05 | macnewbold | it varies in different places |
23:30.11 | macnewbold | kNIGits: exactly |
23:30.17 | MrBIOS-work | Well, I live in Kahleefoania....so ;-) |
23:30.25 | chillywilly | I let the f bomb drop when I shouldn't |
23:30.29 | macnewbold | some people think online is this whole different world where that kind of thing doesn't matter |
23:30.49 | macnewbold | yeah, california has a large LDS population in places |
23:31.27 | chillywilly | we have cheese, porn, and beer when you cross the WI border |
23:32.28 | chillywilly | those are the first things you see |
23:33.08 | chillywilly | isn't that special? |
23:35.17 | tda | kNIGits: What can I do to test jabber? Did not get it to work yet. |
23:36.53 | *** part/#flyspray odoc (i=odoc@is.borntobooze.de) |
23:38.00 | chillywilly | alright time to go home |
23:38.01 | chillywilly | peace |
23:40.37 | kNIGits | later |
23:41.02 | kNIGits | tda, put your personal jabber id in your profile, and set your notification type to jabber |
23:41.15 | tda | I did :-( |
23:41.28 | kNIGits | add yourself to the notify list on a task, then have another user add a comment to that task |
23:42.00 | tda | another?? So it is not enough if I just do it. OK that was it. |
23:43.30 | macnewbold | notifications aren't sent to the person that caused them |
23:43.35 | MrBIOS-work | yes that is by design :) |
23:44.37 | tda | quite understandable |
23:44.58 | tda | But as it seems also not if use another user :-( |
23:45.19 | tda | Is there any kind of log? |
23:46.51 | MrBIOS-work | sounds like another feature request :) |
23:47.07 | tda | Admin toolbox: Jabber notification is set to the sender's jabber address. is that correct? |
23:47.55 | kNIGits | ah, I know |
23:48.15 | kNIGits | Jabber notifications now require that you activate schedule.php regularly |
23:48.28 | tda | cronjob? |
23:48.35 | kNIGits | since they're now stored, and periodically sent out by schedule.php. yes, a cronjob would do it |
23:49.21 | kNIGits | cron -> wget -> scripts/schedule.php |
23:49.29 | kNIGits | -> /dev/null |
23:49.37 | tda | ok, so no cli |
23:49.55 | kNIGits | if you just want to force the notification right now, load scripts/schedule.php in your browser |
23:50.06 | kNIGits | you'll get some output that tells you if it's working |
23:51.19 | tda | takes long... |
23:51.36 | tda | ...very long |
23:51.55 | tda | now |
23:52.17 | kNIGits | worked? |
23:52.21 | tda | YES! it worked. |
23:52.51 | kNIGits | that's why we don't send jabber notifications from the modify page, but store them instead. it would make Flyspray just lock up |
23:53.14 | tda | Thats what we do in our own sw. |
23:54.11 | *** part/#flyspray Le6o (n=Le6o@user-6341.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
23:54.17 | tda | PSI is just great :-) Had some problems deleting the server account from my local PSI but now it works. |
23:56.06 | tda | "*/15 * * * * /usr/bin/lynx -noprint -dump http://southpole.mswbt.de/mainskill/extranet/support/scripts/schedule.php > /dev/null" should do it. |
23:56.29 | kNIGits | Psi is quite good. it doesn't have silly flashy features that 12 year old kids love, but it's a sensible program for adults |
23:57.40 | tda | exactly |
23:58.30 | tda | :-) |
23:59.36 | tda | kNIGits: What are the remote scripts usefull for? Aren't they more a security risk than benefit? |
23:59.55 | kNIGits | yeah, delete them :-) |