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| 06:45.26 | afoeder | moin |
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| 07:43.17 | ChristianM | yeah good morning to you too ;) |
| 07:47.25 | afoeder | :-D |
| 07:47.46 | afoeder | jwa, was it really *that* bad, that school class? :) |
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| 07:49.22 | jwa | afoeder: ha. no I had my headphones and turned up the volume :P |
| 07:53.00 | afoeder | yep, but that doesn't help when school bags bump against your backside again and again...^^ |
| 07:53.53 | jwa | I prominently placed my bag on the seat next to me, that usually helps, too |
| 07:54.17 | jwa | also, if you mind having a look at the logs from yesterday evening, I had a question (again) that noone could answer :( |
| 07:57.15 | afoeder | >>circular relationships?<<? |
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| 07:58.30 | jwa | yes |
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| 08:28.48 | jwa | afoeder: ? |
| 08:29.16 | afoeder | yes? I was hoping to silently steal myself away from my responsibility... |
| 08:29.32 | jwa | k, nevermind then |
| 08:30.05 | bwaidelich | hi all |
| 08:30.08 | afoeder | yeah, have indeed no idea so far. |
| 08:30.11 | bwaidelich | jwa: what was your question? |
| 08:30.14 | afoeder | hey bwaidelich! |
| 08:31.37 | jwa | bwaidelich: hi, the last few lines from me here: http://www.rvantwisk.nl/flow3-irc-log/2012/march/28.html |
| 08:32.52 | bwaidelich | counterquestion: why don't you use the form api? ;) |
| 08:34.41 | jwa | er, don't mind the example, I actually have different stuff there |
| 08:35.04 | bwaidelich | ok, but a concrete example would help |
| 08:35.16 | bwaidelich | so, in that case you had http://yuml.me/582a1ddb right? |
| 08:36.13 | jwa | exactly, only that Form isn't an aggregation of FilledForm(s) |
| 08:36.29 | jwa | and FormOptionValue has a reference back to FormOption, of course |
| 08:36.43 | bwaidelich | it's not an agregate, but a 1:1 relation |
| 08:37.16 | bwaidelich | http://yuml.me/798b1bd9 |
| 08:37.19 | jwa | the empty square thingies say otherwise? |
| 08:37.39 | jwa | yeah, so it's not UML :P |
| 08:38.08 | jwa | the reason I have it like this is because Forms do not stand in a direct relation to FilledForms, because many users can fill out a single form right? |
| 08:38.21 | jwa | also, what tool is that? |
| 08:38.25 | bwaidelich | you're right -> http://yuml.me/ec21e5ab |
| 08:38.44 | bwaidelich | http://yuml.me |
| 08:39.16 | bwaidelich | i think, this model could be improved |
| 08:40.15 | bwaidelich | but to clearify: FormOption is an element in the form, right? (textbox, select field, ...) |
| 08:40.59 | jwa | yes |
| 08:41.35 | afoeder | I'd also have a question again and again; is it possible to set Validators to "foreign" packages via Configuration? |
| 08:41.48 | jwa | can have many options, but not all have to be filled in, so a FilledForm doesn't have the same number of FormOptionValues as its Form has FormOptions |
| 08:42.01 | afoeder | I'd like, for example, to set Validator options to FLOW3.Party's Party |
| 08:42.15 | jwa | afoeder: AOP? |
| 08:42.45 | bwaidelich | if you look at http://flow3.typo3.org/documentation/guides/forms/quickstart.html#api-overview that's the simplified UML of the Form API |
| 08:42.49 | afoeder | hm would be an idea; but I think setting it via configuration would be useful in general |
| 08:43.24 | bwaidelich | we use FormDefinition (for Form), FormRuntime (for FilledForm) and FormElement (for FormOption) |
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| 08:45.07 | chrisDD | Hi, is there an initialize function that is only called when an object is really new and not loaded through persistence? i would suspect _construct and initializeObject to be called in both cases. |
| 08:45.29 | bwaidelich | chrisDD the constructor is not called when reconstituted |
| 08:45.37 | jwa | hmm.... |
| 08:45.56 | bwaidelich | initializeObject() is always called, after all inject* methods have been called |
| 08:46.36 | bwaidelich | jwa: so basically the only difference is, that you can always ask the FormRuntime for all it's elements |
| 08:46.49 | bwaidelich | they might be optional, but the Runtime knows about them |
| 08:46.58 | chrisDD | bwaidelich: thx. thats interesting. |
| 08:46.58 | ChristianM | jwa about circular references in general, it shouldn't be a problem, I would just for the sake of speed annotate some relation(s) lazy so they are really only loaded if needed |
| 08:48.03 | ChristianM | but doctrine checks that, so there shouldn't be an endless loop triggered |
| 08:48.53 | bwaidelich | i think, in this example the circular reference is not the problem |
| 08:49.03 | bwaidelich | but it seems overcomplicated to get to the values |
| 08:49.06 | bwaidelich | foreach ($form->getFormOptions() as $option) { |
| 08:49.06 | bwaidelich | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.06 | bwaidelich | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.06 | bwaidelich | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.06 | bwaidelich | } |
| 08:49.51 | jwa | exactly, and I'd annotate the Form property of FormOptionValue as lazy I think |
| 08:50.15 | bwaidelich | the optionValue has a reference to Form ? |
| 08:50.19 | jwa | I also have specified default values in the FormOption |
| 08:50.59 | jwa | bwaidelich: uh oh, no, I meant the FilledForm |
| 08:51.20 | jwa | but yeah since that's a ManyToOne relationship already I doubt it's a problem for doctrine, right? |
| 08:51.53 | bwaidelich | no, shouldn't be |
| 08:51.53 | jwa | funny thing is that I don't need ManyToMany relations as I first thought.. |
| 08:51.59 | jwa | cool :) |
| 08:52.08 | bwaidelich | in the form api we use unique identifiers for each form element |
| 08:52.27 | jwa | like ValueObjects? |
| 08:52.28 | bwaidelich | that makes it really easy to retrieve a specific form value |
| 08:52.39 | jwa | ah, of course |
| 08:53.10 | bwaidelich | and we can even use the dot-syntax to combine values to a composite |
| 08:53.29 | bwaidelich | e.g. "start.date" & "start.time" |
| 08:53.39 | bwaidelich | getValue('start') would return an array with both values |
| 08:56.03 | jwa | implementing something like that in my case would be pretty overkill though |
| 08:57.22 | bwaidelich | jwa i think the main difference is, that we don't map the form values to objects immediately but keep them as multi-dimensional array until the end |
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| 09:04.27 | afoeder | okey dokey; what do you think: http://forge.typo3.org/issues/35354 |
| 09:07.39 | bwaidelich | afoeder nice idea! but the base validators of a model should IMO only validate the absolutely necessary rules anyways and everything additional you can achieve with custom validators, no? |
| 09:08.28 | afoeder | well, then I didn't get something; what is the difference between "base" and "custom" validators? |
| 09:09.25 | bwaidelich | so, if you have special rules for your "person" model, you could either subclass the Party person or create a custom validator that validates the person object as a whole |
| 09:10.02 | bwaidelich | "base validator" was ambiguous |
| 09:10.07 | bwaidelich | http://flow3.typo3.org/documentation/guide/partii/validation.html |
| 09:10.12 | bwaidelich | i meant "base properties" |
| 09:10.33 | afoeder | ah now I got you; well, honestly I want to avoid additional files/classes only for that purpose... |
| 09:11.07 | ChristianM | but it's the way to go |
| 09:11.16 | afoeder | (you'd mean somethin like a PersonValidator?) |
| 09:11.17 | ChristianM | the third code example could be covered by that |
| 09:11.26 | ChristianM | custom NameValidator |
| 09:11.33 | ChristianM | and annotate that to your name property |
| 09:11.35 | afoeder | eh right |
| 09:11.36 | bwaidelich | yes, because it's part of your domain logic. |
| 09:11.42 | ChristianM | true |
| 09:11.48 | bwaidelich | but i dont't think your idea does not make sense |
| 09:11.49 | afoeder | true, too |
| 09:11.53 | bwaidelich | in general |
| 09:12.04 | ChristianM | yep, the configuration of validators could make sense I think |
| 09:12.17 | bwaidelich | but I'm not sure if it would make it even more complex if you have several ways to specify validation rules |
| 09:12.24 | ChristianM | true |
| 09:12.26 | afoeder | that's absolutely right! |
| 09:12.37 | afoeder | we'd need a console command to find out active validators then |
| 09:12.54 | afoeder | because searching for why a validation fails could drive you mad. |
| 09:15.20 | afoeder | (if the Yaml approach has a chance, I'd vote for an additional Validation.yaml) |
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| 09:17.54 | afoeder | additionally, I hazy remember somebody mentioned additional validation options; I think it was Sebastian |
| 09:18.18 | afoeder | but I really don't remember the concrete ideas |
| 09:19.57 | bwaidelich | yes I think it will be similar to the PropertyMappingConfiguration |
| 09:20.21 | bwaidelich | http://flow3.typo3.org/documentation/guide/partiii/propertymapping.html#configuring-the-conversion-process |
| 09:21.14 | bwaidelich | currently you can use this to allow mapping of nested properties in your initialize*Action() method. I could imagine a similar mechanism to override validation rules. |
| 09:21.32 | bwaidelich | and we planned to make that settable via annotations, sometime |
| 09:22.08 | afoeder | ah yes; also a nice idea; but (in my case) it's not clued to (my) domain model "enough" |
| 09:22.50 | bwaidelich | because you're not using *your* domain model ;) |
| 09:23.35 | bwaidelich | btw: maybe the mixin mechanism will also allow us to "inject" validation rules to other models. But that will be global then |
| 09:24.54 | ChristianM | ah bwaidelich as you are here atm. just stumbled upon something and was not sure… can I get an uriBuilder in a command controller? I know there was some discussion about that quite a while ago... |
| 09:25.12 | afoeder | ok: after all I think the PersonNameValidator would be most straightforward |
| 09:25.26 | afoeder | at least in my currenct case :) |
| 09:26.11 | bwaidelich | christianm yes, why not? |
| 09:26.30 | bwaidelich | but you have to bind it to some WebRequest |
| 09:26.41 | bwaidelich | ...which you probably have to create first |
| 09:26.49 | bwaidelich | $uriBuilder->setRequest() |
| 09:26.51 | ChristianM | ah I see, so a dummy request |
| 09:26.57 | ChristianM | alright |
| 09:27.15 | bwaidelich | yes, that should work. as we don't have Backend & Frontend in FLOW3 ;) |
| 09:27.28 | bwaidelich | that makes things so much easier |
| 09:27.33 | ChristianM | YES |
| 09:27.51 | afoeder | although, for example that deep property validating has the charm that you can have different requirements for different contexts |
| 09:29.14 | afoeder | an employee which uses PersonName must satisfy other properties than a customer, e.g. |
| 09:29.48 | bwaidelich | afoeder that's true |
| 09:36.28 | farconada | bwaidelich: have you take a look at this? https://gist.github.com/2227439#comments |
| 09:37.39 | bwaidelich | farconada didn't see it yet. yes, that should work in general |
| 09:37.44 | bwaidelich | did you try it? |
| 09:38.09 | farconada | I dont know how to get the formruntime inside the factory |
| 09:38.21 | bwaidelich | why do you need it? |
| 09:38.50 | farconada | I write an examplet at this gist https://gist.github.com/2227439#comments |
| 09:39.06 | bwaidelich | i know, but why do you need the runtime? |
| 09:39.23 | farconada | $formRuntime->getFormState()->getFormValues(); |
| 09:39.27 | farconada | from your example |
| 09:40.22 | bwaidelich | lets start from the beginning: what are you trying to achieve? to redirect to a custom action after the form has been submitted? |
| 09:41.01 | farconada | I just playing with TYPO3.Form to learn about its possiblities. |
| 09:41.22 | farconada | first I want to redirect to an action with an argument passed in a form element |
| 09:41.30 | afoeder | ChristianM: good chances I got a ticket for T3DD. Have to confirm this, though ;-) |
| 09:41.39 | ChristianM | cool! |
| 09:41.55 | bwaidelich | afoeder great |
| 09:42.40 | farconada | next I want to write the same Form and redirect to different actions (depending of an argument in the template) with the same argument |
| 09:44.06 | farconada | my idea: a Form is something with input fields that i could use in a template to buld an object and I could send that object to different pages, the form is responsible of validation and should have hooks |
| 09:44.08 | farconada | is it ok? |
| 09:46.46 | bwaidelich | farconada: https://gist.github.com/2235472 |
| 09:47.09 | bwaidelich | this would redirect to an action the user can chose via dropdown (untested) |
| 09:48.22 | farconada | is not exactly my idea |
| 09:48.47 | bwaidelich | "first I want to redirect to an action with an argument passed in a form element" isn't that what this example does? |
| 09:48.51 | farconada | cause the target action should be defined in the template |
| 09:49.11 | bwaidelich | just take it from "$factorySpecificConfiguration" |
| 09:49.48 | farconada | 'argments' => array('fieldName' =>{fieldName}') |
| 09:50.12 | farconada | could I use "$factorySpecificConfiguration" for what I want ? |
| 09:50.42 | bwaidelich | $factorySpecificConfiguration will contain the complete preset configuration plus the values you specify in the template via the overrideConfiguration argument |
| 09:50.55 | farconada | ok |
| 09:51.09 | bwaidelich | so you have to be careful not to override exisitng data. just var_dump the variable and you'll see |
| 09:51.39 | farconada | the "$factorySpecificConfiguration" ok |
| 09:51.41 | bwaidelich | it will also contain the default options for the finishers, so you can simply override them |
| 09:51.45 | bwaidelich | yes |
| 09:52.03 | farconada | now the form parametes |
| 09:53.18 | farconada | inside the factory |
| 09:53.30 | bwaidelich | ? |
| 09:53.35 | farconada | how to recover the form submitted values? |
| 09:53.42 | farconada | for example |
| 09:54.16 | bwaidelich | you can add multiple finishers to a form, what about the closure finisher? |
| 09:54.25 | bwaidelich | https://gist.github.com/2227439 |
| 09:55.00 | bwaidelich | ah i see - you want to be redirected to some action with all form values as argument? |
| 09:55.09 | farconada | $Person = personBuilder($filedName, $fieldAge); $myFinisher->setoptions('person' => $Person) |
| 09:56.36 | farconada | in your example at https://gist.github.com/2227439 you wrote $formRuntime->getFormState()->getFormValues(); so lets back to my first question, where could I get the formruntime() ? |
| 09:57.03 | bwaidelich | it will be passed to the closure |
| 09:57.34 | aertmann | https://review.typo3.org/#/c/9752/1/Classes/Finishers/ClosureFinisher.php |
| 09:57.35 | farconada | y3es but $closureFinisher->setOption('closure', function($formRuntime) {} |
| 09:57.43 | farconada | in the factory? |
| 09:58.52 | bwaidelich | just use it like this and you'll be able to get the form values inside the closure as described |
| 09:59.30 | aertmann | farconada: https://gist.github.com/2235564 is this what you're looking for? |
| 10:00.38 | bwaidelich | farconada if you look inside the closure finisher you can see that the first parameter passed to the closure is the form runtime (http://git.typo3.org/FLOW3/Packages/TYPO3.Form.git?a=blob;f=Classes/Finishers/ClosureFinisher.php;h=b090eec12a828f4f582d7d1da32a753ad3756fce;hb=HEAD) |
| 10:01.03 | bwaidelich | (btw: this will be changed to be the finisherContext soon, but you can get the runtime from that as well) |
| 10:02.42 | farconada | reading... |
| 10:03.54 | farconada | sorry, not really satisfied |
| 10:04.00 | farconada | writing an example... |
| 10:09.59 | farconada | https://gist.github.com/2227439#comments |
| 10:10.24 | farconada | is it possible? |
| 10:12.56 | farconada | I'll be here in after a fast coffe |
| 10:30.10 | mind2machine | . |
| 10:33.49 | afoeder | interesting... would anybody be so kind an test/reproduce this http://codepad.viper-7.com/6CtW0u on your machine? |
| 10:35.37 | bwaidelich | afoeder what's the result on your machine? |
| 10:35.44 | afoeder | FALSE |
| 10:36.00 | bwaidelich | and you're surprised? |
| 10:36.12 | afoeder | well, the one @ codepad is what I was hoping to get... |
| 10:36.25 | afoeder | why should I not be surprised? :) |
| 10:36.33 | bwaidelich | what about the trailing pipe in the dateformat? |
| 10:37.40 | afoeder | http://de.php.net/manual/de/datetime.createfromformat.php |
| 10:37.57 | afoeder | my intention was to set hmi to 0 and the timezone, too |
| 10:37.58 | bwaidelich | ah, didn't know that |
| 10:38.25 | bwaidelich | i get false too |
| 10:38.54 | afoeder | what php ver? |
| 10:39.05 | afoeder | and; Windows? |
| 10:39.09 | ChristianM | I get the expected result |
| 10:39.14 | ChristianM | the DateTime object |
| 10:39.26 | afoeder | with UTC? |
| 10:39.31 | afoeder | (most important for me) |
| 10:39.51 | ChristianM | ah nope, with local timezone |
| 10:39.57 | afoeder | meh... |
| 10:40.03 | ChristianM | but that depends on your php.ini |
| 10:40.37 | afoeder | ChristianM, could you throw away the | and add an ! in front of the format? |
| 10:40.44 | afoeder | --> !Y-m-d |
| 10:41.20 | afoeder | (I ideally don't want something that depends on my php.ini ;-) |
| 10:41.41 | bwaidelich | http://codepad.viper-7.com/ICCYyE works for me but not on codepad |
| 10:41.43 | bwaidelich | php... |
| 10:42.45 | afoeder | I assume that very depends on the php version... because that whole thing is a bit fiddly however... |
| 10:43.14 | bwaidelich | probably it's safer to (re)set time & timezone on the DateTime object |
| 10:44.05 | afoeder | yes... true.... |
| 10:44.37 | afoeder | I hoped I can achieve it with setTypeConverterOption( 'TYPO3\FLOW3\Property\TypeConverter\DateTimeConverter', \TYPO3\FLOW3\Property\TypeConverter\DateTimeConverter::CONFIGURATION_DATE_FORMAT, 'Y-m-d|' |
| 10:46.14 | ChristianM | !Y-m-d gives Europe/Berlin too |
| 10:46.47 | afoeder | yep for me, too |
| 10:49.53 | ChristianM | either you set the timezone with date_default_timezone_set() in bootstrap or you rely on php.ini |
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| 10:51.11 | farconada | ready |
| 10:51.32 | afoeder | well, regarding this, I'm still searching for a reliable, holistic solution |
| 10:52.04 | afoeder | a few days ago I mentioned "Django" which per-default normalizes DateTimes to UTC prior/after persisting |
| 10:52.30 | afoeder | I think FLOW3 *must* provide a similar mechanism / at least this has really to be discussed. |
| 10:53.13 | afoeder | because the way it's currently handled may quickly result in a mess... |
| 10:53.54 | farconada | ideas about https://gist.github.com/2227439#comments ? |
| 10:55.48 | ChristianM | yeah, timezone handling in php is/was a mess |
| 10:55.50 | afoeder | (for that reason I started http://forge.typo3.org/issues/33308 a bit ago) |
| 10:56.07 | afoeder | FLOW3 really should provide a guideline for that. |
| 10:57.11 | afoeder | this UTC-normalization might even be a Doctrine thing. |
| 11:03.41 | afoeder | and, as expected: setting the timezone afterwards changes the actual date |
| 11:03.59 | afoeder | timezone must only be *set* @ constructor |
| 11:06.13 | ChristianM | sure |
| 11:10.14 | afoeder | ChristianM, the DateTimeConverter behavior for this reason might even be considered buggy |
| 11:11.03 | ChristianM | at least I would say this whole timezone stuff needs to be thought about |
| 11:11.34 | afoeder | absolutely; unfortunately I did not find anybody who would like to participate :-P |
| 11:12.43 | afoeder | check that line 39, please: http://git.typo3.org/FLOW3/Packages/TYPO3.FLOW3.git?a=blob;f=Classes/Property/TypeConverter/DateTimeConverter.php;h=5aad65f3b6cf4db2f5b8a4e101ba6acb34a05124;hb=master#l39 |
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| 11:14.11 | bwaidelich | farconada still there? |
| 11:14.40 | farconada | yes |
| 11:15.08 | afoeder | this conveys the impression that you might adjust the given date/time bound to the timezone; but actually the resulting date/time is changed |
| 11:15.17 | bwaidelich | your example won't work. the factory just creates a form definition. the runtime is only available at.. runtime ;) |
| 11:15.19 | afoeder | ("becomes changed") |
| 11:15.36 | bwaidelich | but you can use the "setDataType()" setter to automatically map form values to objects |
| 11:15.52 | bwaidelich | and if that's not enough, create a simple finisher |
| 11:16.16 | bwaidelich | a finisher retrieves a context that contains the runtime ($finisherContext->getFormRuntime()) |
| 11:16.38 | ChristianM | afoeder, yep I think I see what you mean |
| 11:16.44 | ChristianM | that is not that great |
| 11:17.29 | afoeder | TZ should be set in line 117 |
| 11:17.33 | afoeder | as 3rd param |
| 11:18.57 | farconada | setDataType is undocumented, isnt it? |
| 11:20.01 | bwaidelich | no http://flow3.typo3.org/documentation/guides/forms/extending-form-api.html |
| 11:20.33 | bwaidelich | it is documented under custom form elements, but you can also set it in the factory |
| 11:20.51 | bwaidelich | but this is rather advanced |
| 11:20.58 | bwaidelich | will you be at the developer days in 2 weeks? |
| 11:21.13 | bwaidelich | i'll be doing a form workshop there |
| 11:23.05 | farconada | bwaidelich https://gist.github.com/2227439#comments with setDataType and a custom finishers, how could I reutilize the converted object? setDataType expect an string, isnt it? how could i convert a form to a model object? |
| 11:24.35 | farconada | sorry, I couldn't be a Developers days I cant affors it, but I'll take a look at slides |
| 11:25.41 | farconada | I think the most important thing here is the concept, tell me if I'm wrong |
| 11:25.42 | farconada | my idea: a Form is something with input fields that i could use in a template to buld an object and I could send that object to different pages, the form is responsible of validation and should have hooks |
| 11:27.04 | bwaidelich | farconada thats a pitty. i have to leave now, but I would ignore the dataType for now - it is flexible as it allows you to map pages, sections or single elements to an object, but this is not trivial |
| 11:27.26 | bwaidelich | have a look at the existing finishers and start with your custom one - they're really easy |
| 11:27.37 | farconada | i did it |
| 11:28.23 | bwaidelich | btw: editing existing object is not yet (easily) possible - we'll discuss that at the dev days |
| 11:28.31 | farconada | I'm considereing TYPO3.Form for complex forms not for the simplest ones, I used to manage master/detail forms that need to be converted via custom property mappers |
| 11:29.17 | farconada | then converted objects are passed to differents actions and fire signals |
| 11:30.18 | farconada | I think that TYPO3.Forms could manage it to reutilize the code and encapsuletes the logic of the forms (finishers instead of signals and so on) |
| 11:30.43 | bwaidelich | yes that should work |
| 11:31.05 | farconada | I you agree I could develop a bit more my idea and we could talk in another moment |
| 11:31.49 | bwaidelich | absolutely! just look through the code examples of the FormExample package for some simpler use cases and check the API. it's a bit hard to get your head around it at first, but it's quite flexible |
| 11:35.14 | farconada | bwaidelich thanks, I'll take a look at this and I'll develop my ideas a bit more |
| 11:35.23 | bwaidelich | good luck! |
| 11:47.07 | afoeder | whaarghh... does anybody know "Brottrunk"? |
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| 11:50.20 | wittem | hey there, at the Documentation on the flow3 website is a guide about "Forms". Where are the sources for this? |
| 11:55.52 | Kirab | The HttpsInterceptor is not usable, or is it? |
| 11:56.13 | Kirab | Seems like it’s unfinished work |
| 11:56.45 | Kirab | Or I just can’t find documentation or use-cases |
| 12:15.44 | ChristianM | wittem, I guess you talk about the Form API |
| 12:15.46 | ChristianM | http://git.typo3.org/FLOW3/Packages/TYPO3.Form.git |
| 12:15.59 | ChristianM | and maybe also interesting: http://git.typo3.org/FLOW3/Packages/TYPO3.FormBuilder.git |
| 12:16.10 | ChristianM | and: http://git.typo3.org/FLOW3/Packages/TYPO3.FormExample.git |
| 12:16.31 | wittem | Thank you ChristianM |
| 12:16.35 | ChristianM | Kirab HttpsInterceptor, nope, I think its the same as the IP address range stuff |
| 12:16.45 | ChristianM | it's not finished yet |
| 12:16.49 | ChristianM | afoeder, well I know it |
| 12:19.29 | afoeder | just tasted a bit of it *_~ |
| 12:24.57 | ChristianM | yeah its not really nice |
| 12:25.24 | ChristianM | Kirab, I think we would all be happy to have those interceptors fully implemented so if you need it, would be great if you can offer code |
| 12:25.37 | ChristianM | btw. did you see our effort to tackle the bugtracker? |
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| 12:27.37 | Kirab | ChristianM: Yes, I did, it’s moving forward now :) |
| 12:32.18 | chrisDD | is there a documented call tree for the object instantiation? i know you guys know which magic function is called when, but i don't want to ask every single time. and testing myself takes time. e.g. is the result of injectsettings available in __construct? |
| 12:33.09 | ChristianM | chrisDD nope its not |
| 12:33.22 | ChristianM | and I am not aware of a documentation about that |
| 12:33.33 | ChristianM | just because it is pretty dynamic as soon as AOP comes in |
| 12:33.48 | ChristianM | initializeObject is called after __construct with all injections done |
| 12:34.19 | ChristianM | (but for persisted objects this is called only ONCE when the object is really new) |
| 12:34.51 | ChristianM | chrisDD but sure, I think it would be nice to have some cheat-sheet with the basic magic methods |
| 12:35.11 | chrisDD | thats what i am looking for. want to initialize the object only when still not persisted with settings from a config file. |
| 12:35.27 | ChristianM | yep then initializeObject is what you need |
| 12:36.19 | chrisDD | but isn't it call when accessing again through the persistence? |
| 12:36.49 | chrisDD | don't want to initialize with each access to the oibject |
| 12:37.24 | ChristianM | nope this should really only be called after __construc |
| 12:37.27 | ChristianM | __construct |
| 12:38.56 | chrisDD | damn, misunderstood that one. makes things a lot easier :-) |
| 12:41.48 | ChristianM | um wait, it is in fact called in both ways, but you get an argument that you can check against |
| 12:43.39 | ChristianM | you can expect one argument to this method |
| 12:43.42 | ChristianM | an integer |
| 12:43.48 | ChristianM | and you can check against this constants: |
| 12:43.50 | ChristianM | \TYPO3\FLOW3\Object\ObjectManagerInterface::INITIALIZATIONCAUSE_CREATED |
| 12:44.05 | ChristianM | \TYPO3\FLOW3\Object\ObjectManagerInterface::INITIALIZATIONCAUSE_RECREATED |
| 12:44.38 | ChristianM | chrisDD that was for you, just so your client notifies you ;) |
| 12:50.25 | chrisDD | oh ok, so i have to take care of that. thats alright. |
| 12:54.07 | chrisDD | will you all come to f3x12 this weekend? |
| 12:54.47 | ChristianM | I am there |
| 12:56.02 | chrisDD | great. me too. |
| 13:01.25 | ChristianM | nice, so we will meet there |
| 13:09.30 | chrisDD | yes. |
| 13:09.38 | chrisDD | oh injectSettings isnÄt working in a model class? |
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| 13:31.32 | afoeder | ChristianM what do you think, is the ->setTimezone issue worth a patch? |
| 13:32.03 | afoeder | I don't know if this is intended behavior or if the author wasn't (really) aware of that fact |
| 13:33.28 | afoeder | ah, bwaidelich seems to be the author |
| 13:35.09 | farconada | afoerder what about the assetic package? |
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| 14:07.05 | jwa | did someone already setup a CI with flow3? |
| 14:08.10 | farconada | time ago i did something |
| 14:08.22 | farconada | the big problem is coverture |
| 14:11.53 | jwa | coverture??? |
| 14:12.09 | farconada | sorry coverage |
| 14:12.29 | jwa | haha might have been your wife interfering with it :D |
| 14:13.05 | farconada | jejeje, |
| 14:13.29 | jwa | I mean, it's always possible ;) |
| 14:17.47 | jwa | and I have an excuse for not writing unit tests :3 http://flow3.typo3.org/documentation/guide/partiii/testing.html |
| 14:18.42 | farconada | http://jenkins-php.org/ |
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| 14:55.53 | jwa | I have a suggestion for i18n formatters... I don't think it's a good idea to need the TYPO3\FLOW3 namespace and you should be able to use your own namespace for (say, very custom) own formatters |
| 14:56.25 | jwa | maybe use a list of namespaces for formatters in Settings.yaml or Objects.yaml or use annotations to collect all available formatters |
| 14:56.31 | jwa | just looking for input :) |
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| 15:06.15 | ChristianM | jwa, didn't look into those yet, but if it is the case that they NEED to be in TYPO3\FLOW3 namespace, yes we should change that |
| 15:06.24 | ChristianM | to some annotation / interface based approach |
| 15:06.58 | ChristianM | mmm there is \TYPO3\FLOW3\I18n\Formatter\FormatterInterface |
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| 15:56.22 | kkopecky | Did any one know a good projectmanagement softwarte for realizing a bigger projekt in flow3 ? |
| 15:57.15 | ChristianM | kkopecky, mmm very much depends on your needs |
| 15:57.34 | ChristianM | we currently try JIRA for our development effort |
| 15:57.35 | kkopecky | i want that the projekt will be successful :D |
| 15:57.42 | kkopecky | okay |
| 15:57.44 | ChristianM | :D who doesn't |
| 15:58.04 | ChristianM | JIRA looks very promising but it is not for free (at least for non open source projects) |
| 15:58.18 | ChristianM | it has tons of integration tools for IDEs and browsers |
| 15:58.27 | kkopecky | okay |
| 15:58.34 | kkopecky | i will look at it :) |
| 15:58.52 | ChristianM | apart from that, well good old redmine... |
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| 16:02.07 | kkopecky | now its just a projekt for my study |
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| 16:06.30 | kkopecky | but with the goal to do a startup out of it ;) |
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| 16:08.21 | ChristianM | alright |
| 16:08.37 | ChristianM | besides I like Wunderkit a lot |
| 16:09.02 | ChristianM | so far I use it mainly for self organisation but it offers team collaboration too |
| 16:10.32 | kkopecky | okay , i will also take a look |
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| 21:59.36 | jwa | ChristianM: yes, there's an interface, but you can't have {0,\Acme\I18n\Formatter\MyCustomFormatter} in your translation files, can you? :) |
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