| 05:24:21 | dryIce | hello |
| 05:25:05 | dryIce | anyone here? |
| 05:25:11 | movits | yah |
| 05:25:15 | dryIce | hi |
| 05:25:22 | dryIce | have you installed familiar yet |
| 05:25:37 | movits | sorta...I "borrowed" packages from it for my psion |
| 05:25:47 | movits | also an arm chip and uses ipkg |
| 05:26:15 | dryIce | i have an ipaq 3800 |
| 05:26:26 | dryIce | do i need to modify the actual cradle to get it to work |
| 05:26:27 | movits | have you converted it yer? |
| 05:26:32 | dryIce | not yet |
| 05:26:36 | movits | no, why would you think so???? |
| 05:27:11 | dryIce | it is what it says in the install instructions for familar |
| 05:27:21 | movits | hmmm |
| 05:27:25 | movits | URL, please? |
| 05:27:32 | dryIce | one sec |
| 05:28:00 | dryIce | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/install/H3600/install/html |
| 05:28:14 | dryIce | thats a . for / |
| 05:28:18 | movits | one sec |
| 05:28:43 | dryIce | my cradle has usb and serial on it |
| 05:28:59 | dryIce | but im not sure how to get it to work with a terminal emulator |
| 05:29:10 | dryIce | whats a good linux term emulator |
| 05:29:14 | movits | minicom |
| 05:29:40 | movits | as root, run minicom -s (for setup) and saev as default |
| 05:29:48 | movits | then as user run "minicom -o" |
| 05:29:53 | dryIce | ok |
| 05:29:57 | movits | the -o tells it there is no modem |
| 05:30:01 | dryIce | im doing that right now |
| 05:30:14 | movits | but what on the ipaq is listening for your connection??? |
| 05:30:36 | dryIce | i dont know how |
| 05:30:54 | dryIce | first im gonna copy the bootloader over and install it |
| 05:30:57 | dryIce | then ill get to that |
| 05:31:00 | movits | dryIce: how good are you at linux |
| 05:31:02 | movits | ? |
| 05:31:12 | movits | cuz this is kinf od advanced |
| 05:31:40 | dryIce | im fairly advanced now |
| 05:31:43 | dryIce | ive been using it for almost a year |
| 05:31:51 | movits | ok |
| 05:31:54 | dryIce | but im very proficient in computers |
| 05:32:03 | movits | gotta go..gnight |
| 05:32:03 | dryIce | but not in spelling hehe |
| 05:37:38 | cruiserman | anyone get stowaway to work? |
| 05:46:45 | dryIce | hi |
| 05:47:28 | cruiserman | lo |
| 05:47:50 | dryIce | im installing linux on my ipaq H3800 right now |
| 05:47:59 | dryIce | actually the boot loader |
| 05:48:08 | cruiserman | sweet, i put it on my 3765 2 days ago |
| 05:48:11 | cruiserman | :) |
| 05:48:19 | dryIce | does it work well |
| 05:48:36 | dryIce | i dont want mine to screw up |
| 05:48:47 | cruiserman | pretty much, got opie running, wirless and most everyting |
| 05:48:52 | dryIce | cool |
| 05:49:08 | cruiserman | except cant get my stowaway to work |
| 05:49:08 | dryIce | wireless with linux box or windows box |
| 05:49:09 | cruiserman | :( |
| 05:49:19 | cruiserman | linux |
| 05:49:23 | dryIce | cool |
| 05:49:30 | dryIce | im gonna have to learn how to do that |
| 05:49:55 | cruiserman | i just have a working script i use for my laptop i transfered over with intellisync |
| 05:51:13 | dryIce | intellisync? |
| 05:51:44 | cruiserman | its the sharp zaurus sync tool btwn pda and windows box |
| 05:51:53 | dryIce | oh ok |
| 05:51:56 | cruiserman | they dont have one for a linux box yet |
| 05:51:57 | cruiserman | :( |
| 05:52:59 | dryIce | im trying to make enough room on my ipaq to save all my wince stuff |
| 05:53:12 | dryIce | cant wait to have x up and running |
| 05:53:24 | dryIce | have you seen much about pocketlinx |
| 05:53:27 | cruiserman | linux and wince and no external card? |
| 05:53:51 | dryIce | i just have the ipaq |
| 05:54:06 | dryIce | heh |
| 05:54:13 | dryIce | those cards are expensive |
| 05:54:18 | cruiserman | can you do that? |
| 05:54:27 | dryIce | im a minimalist about my handheld |
| 05:54:27 | cruiserman | dual boot without external card? |
| 05:54:34 | dryIce | i use my laptop for big things |
| 05:54:44 | dryIce | yeah im taking wince off |
| 05:54:49 | dryIce | just gonna use linux i think |
| 05:55:31 | cruiserman | ill be 100% sold when i all my peripherals back up |
| 05:55:46 | dryIce | cool |
| 05:55:55 | dryIce | im already sold cause its fun to mess with it |
| 05:56:13 | cruiserman | im already gonna go on a trip this week and ill have to handwrite my data and now keyboard :( |
| 05:56:26 | dryIce | hehe |
| 05:56:29 | cruiserman | and im not luggin my laptop with |
| 05:56:34 | dryIce | oh |
| 05:56:44 | dryIce | i think im gonna get a new laptop soon |
| 05:56:57 | dryIce | i wish someone would come out with one like that new gateway |
| 05:57:00 | dryIce | that comes apart |
| 05:57:02 | cruiserman | thinks dryIce is made of money |
| 05:57:10 | dryIce | have you seen it |
| 05:57:14 | cruiserman | nope |
| 05:57:19 | cruiserman | nice? |
| 05:57:23 | dryIce | the disk drives come off of it |
| 05:57:31 | dryIce | and its jsut a keyboard and screen |
| 05:57:32 | dryIce | and hd |
| 05:57:42 | cruiserman | kewl |
| 05:57:51 | dryIce | it seperates into two big pieces |
| 05:58:04 | dryIce | when dell does it i might get it |
| 05:58:06 | dryIce | not sure yet |
| 05:58:27 | cruiserman | i love dells |
| 05:58:43 | dryIce | yeah dell is the best big company |
| 05:58:52 | cruiserman | i have an older one and got it with the 3 yr warrantee |
| 05:58:58 | dryIce | but i like to just buy retail parts for my desktops |
| 05:58:59 | cruiserman | that warrantee saved my butt |
| 06:01:50 | cruiserman | one of my kids last holloween was running around with his "Buzz Lightyear" costume and one of his wings clipped my glass of wine which was setting next to my lappy and over it went |
| 06:02:10 | cruiserman | no amount of fscking would help that |
| 06:03:50 | dryIce | hehe |
| 06:03:57 | dryIce | yeah thats not good |
| 06:04:12 | cruiserman | they fixed it though |
| 06:04:22 | dryIce | ok what terminial did you use |
| 06:04:50 | cruiserman | hyperterminal |
| 06:08:21 | dryIce | how did you do it |
| 06:12:44 | cruiserman | dryIce: you on a winblows box? |
| 06:15:40 | cruiserman | if so launch hperterminal then set com port then set the rate at 115200 and flowcontrol to no |
| 06:16:12 | cruiserman | then put ipaq in serial cradle and you should be good to go |
| 06:20:15 | dryIce | yep i got it to fo |
| 06:20:16 | dryIce | go |
| 06:20:23 | dryIce | installing the files now |
| 06:20:36 | dryIce | this is cool stuff |
| 06:20:40 | cruiserman | swett |
| 06:20:44 | cruiserman | sweet |
| 06:20:52 | dryIce | i like the fact that im using my laptop to use my handeheld |
| 06:20:54 | dryIce | its kindof weird |
| 06:21:03 | cruiserman | ya |
| 06:21:05 | cruiserman | heh |
| 06:21:09 | dryIce | its like a really expensive keyboard |
| 06:21:11 | dryIce | hehe |
| 06:21:28 | cruiserman | you gonna install opie next? |
| 06:21:35 | dryIce | huh |
| 06:21:41 | dryIce | os you mean |
| 06:21:52 | cruiserman | are you done with bootldr |
| 06:21:54 | cruiserman | ? |
| 06:21:58 | dryIce | yes |
| 06:22:00 | dryIce | im installing opie now |
| 06:22:01 | dryIce | hehe |
| 06:22:06 | cruiserman | oic |
| 06:22:08 | dryIce | its takeing a while |
| 06:22:09 | cruiserman | nevermind |
| 06:22:11 | dryIce | 19 minutes left |
| 06:22:54 | dryIce | i need to better learn the permissions and things in linux |
| 06:23:09 | dryIce | i have to su everything hehe |
| 06:56:16 | dryIce | anyone here |
| 06:56:36 | dryIce | i need to know what the default editor is when linux is installed on an ipaq |
| 06:59:56 | cruiserman | dryIce you still there? |
| 06:59:59 | dryIce | hey |
| 07:00:06 | dryIce | what is the default editor |
| 07:00:10 | cruiserman | just do ipkg install vim |
| 07:00:11 | dryIce | i cant find the command to edit files |
| 07:00:14 | dryIce | ok |
| 07:00:35 | cruiserman | then use it/live it |
| 07:00:35 | cruiserman | heh |
| 07:00:47 | dryIce | i use emacs |
| 07:00:55 | dryIce | sorry im an idiot |
| 07:00:58 | cruiserman | then ipkg emacs |
| 07:01:03 | dryIce | i dont know how to use vim properly |
| 07:01:05 | cruiserman | ipkg install emacs |
| 07:01:07 | dryIce | it always messes me up |
| 07:01:11 | dryIce | im doing that already |
| 07:01:17 | cruiserman | k |
| 07:01:21 | dryIce | i need to learn vim |
| 07:01:22 | dryIce | hehe |
| 07:01:32 | cruiserman | struggles with getting sound |
| 07:01:48 | cruiserman | man, my list of stuggles is getting longer |
| 07:01:50 | dryIce | it tells me i need to do ipkg update |
| 07:01:51 | cruiserman | :( |
| 07:02:10 | cruiserman | ipkg install | grep emacs |
| 07:02:10 | dryIce | do i need an internet connection for that |
| 07:02:15 | cruiserman | yes |
| 07:02:24 | dryIce | it is installing |
| 07:02:34 | dryIce | it just keeps saying that it needs update |
| 07:02:44 | cruiserman | try it |
| 07:02:52 | dryIce | all the libs are messing up |
| 07:02:53 | dryIce | hehe |
| 07:03:20 | cruiserman | hmm, dont know why |
| 07:03:39 | dryIce | i need to edit some things before i can connect to the internet i think |
| 07:03:53 | cruiserman | can you ping stuff |
| 07:03:54 | dryIce | im just stuck hehe |
| 07:04:03 | dryIce | its trying to install now |
| 07:04:16 | dryIce | im afraid if i stop it it wont work but if i let it it just might work |
| 07:04:49 | cruiserman | will its 12, gotta crash |
| 07:04:56 | cruiserman | got get up in 5 hours :( |
| 07:04:58 | dryIce | its 3 here |
| 07:04:59 | dryIce | hehe |
| 07:05:08 | cruiserman | nite |
| 07:05:09 | dryIce | it tells me not reachabe |
| 07:05:11 | cruiserman | good luck |
| 07:05:14 | dryIce | can you tell me what to do |
| 07:05:29 | dryIce | is there another editor |
| 07:05:30 | cruiserman | ifconfig -a |
| 07:05:32 | dryIce | like built in or something |
| 07:05:47 | cruiserman | im sure there is but i dont know which one |
| 07:05:55 | cruiserman | check on #handhelds.org |
| 07:06:02 | dryIce | ok now what |
| 07:06:14 | cruiserman | do you see an ip for eth0 |
| 07:06:25 | cruiserman | is it connected to nic card? |
| 07:06:28 | dryIce | i dont have an eth0 set up |
| 07:06:30 | dryIce | no |
| 07:06:38 | cruiserman | oh, nevermind |
| 07:06:39 | cruiserman | heh |
| 07:06:48 | cruiserman | i thought thats how you were hooked up |
| 07:06:48 | dryIce | am i just screwed |
| 07:06:49 | dryIce | hehe |
| 07:06:51 | cruiserman | sorry |
| 07:07:06 | cruiserman | thats how i got mine up |
| 07:07:09 | dryIce | i see that there is something about usb so ill try to play with that |
| 07:07:18 | dryIce | cya man |
| 07:07:18 | cruiserman | k |
| 07:07:19 | dryIce | thx for the helps |
| 07:07:22 | cruiserman | np |
| 10:54:36 | axp | I'm looking for a page showing how to use my linux to go onto the internet with my familiar/ipaq |
| 12:42:13 | gonz | is there an easy way to identify an ipaq (serial number or such?) |
| 13:34:23 | sb98052 | wow |
| 15:14:35 | wontonjoe | hello |
| 15:14:42 | wontonjoe | i need a little help |
| 15:16:05 | wontonjoe | i just installed familiar on my ipaq and i did this in windows but i couldnt update the packages through hyperterminal im a newbie in linux and im using mandrake 8.2 right now with a serial connection to the ipaq what is the equivalent of hyperterminal in linux? |
| 15:18:10 | wontonjoe | anyone know? |
| 15:19:45 | egor | wontonjoe try from the commandline minicom |
| 15:20:08 | wontonjoe | ok thanks |
| 15:20:40 | wontonjoe | no luck |
| 15:20:47 | wontonjoe | even did a whereis minicom |
| 15:21:27 | wontonjoe | i just want to load the xserver packages with a terminal program but in windows it said it couldnt connect to hos |
| 15:26:20 | wontonjoe | installed minicom thanks |
| 15:29:03 | wontonjoe | minicom says cannot open /dev/ttys0 or ttys1 where is com1????????? |
| 15:29:52 | wontonjoe | ? |
| 15:31:17 | wontonjoe | is anyone going to answer??????? |
| 15:32:34 | wontonjoe | hello |
| 15:32:53 | Ryback_ | -> /dev/ttyS0 |
| 15:33:30 | wontonjoe | oh ok thanks |
| 15:33:49 | wontonjoe | that didnt work though for some reason |
| 15:34:31 | wontonjoe | no such file or directory |
| 15:34:42 | wontonjoe | thats the error im getting |
| 15:35:33 | pattieja | morning |
| 15:36:33 | wontonjoe | now it says cannot create lockfile sorry |
| 15:36:47 | wontonjoe | how can i fix this error in minicom so i can get to my ipaq |
| 15:37:29 | wontonjoe | please help |
| 15:43:55 | wontonjoe | ? |
| 19:16:56 | SS|dryice | anyone here |
| 19:21:38 | jusdisgi | sure... |
| 19:21:58 | jusdisgi | but most of us are more actively talking on #handhelds.org and #opie |
| 19:22:11 | jusdisgi | what's going on |
| 19:28:23 | dryIce | hi |
| 19:28:27 | dryIce | ok |