| 00:24:49 | szachari | hello. Can someone help me run blackdown's java on familiar 0.5 on the ipaq? It used to work just fine on familiar 0.4, but I can't get it to work on a stock familiar 0.5 installation (gets a *** panic: GC: getStickySystemClass failed: java/lang/ref/Reference, even though java/lang/ref/Reference.class exists in the classpath...) |
| 00:26:57 | Annirak | Anyone know where to find Strong arm processors or the pricing for same? |
| 00:38:26 | Annirak | is away: I'm busy |
| 00:50:17 | EGg0 | is away: I'm reading a book. Do you remember books? |
| 02:14:50 | Annirak | is back (gone 01:36:15) |
| 02:46:14 | thesaint | has anyone here loaded the familiar distro on a H3760? I have been thinking about getting one to play around with but I want to make sure I can get something working on it besides WinCE. |
| 02:52:13 | thesaint | hummmm intresting. |
| 02:52:23 | treke|work | works fine |
| 02:55:06 | thesaint | treke|work: thanks. |
| 03:20:05 | crh | [watch me get beheaded] Hi, I've got a Zaurus, and a quick question about Voyager VGA... |
| 03:20:10 | crh | :) |
| 03:24:06 | liquidx | hello - anyone awake here? |
| 03:24:43 | liquidx | anyway - i was looking in /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/familiar-unstable, and i noticed some weird dependencies (maybe coz i'm just clueless) |
| 03:24:56 | liquidx | why does ppp-modules depend on 8390-modules ? |
| 03:25:20 | crh | I'm here to ask questions too. |
| 03:26:11 | liquidx | hehe |
| 03:26:32 | liquidx | what a coincidence :) |
| 03:26:59 | crh | I need info on the Voyager VGA. |
| 03:27:00 | bipolar_away | is away: I need sleep very badly... |
| 03:27:41 | liquidx | hmm .. sorry - i have nfi about that :) |
| 03:28:31 | crh | It's a mystery... :) |
| 03:28:57 | crh | I have a Zaurus. New thing from Sharp. It has a CF slot in the top. Room for a Voyager VGA CF card. |
| 03:29:07 | crh | I've heard rumors that there was a driver... |
| 03:35:06 | crh | Try again later... |
| 03:35:06 | sjohnson | crh: It's in the tiny X server. It should worked on screen :1 |
| 03:35:15 | crh | Hmmm... |
| 03:35:33 | crh | sjohnson: Sorry, explain. (Thanks for replying) |
| 03:36:13 | crh | sjohnson: That is (sloppy typing)... Sorry, I don't understand. Can you explain? |
| 03:36:31 | sjohnson | crh: AFAIK, You insert the card, restart X and it should work. and show up under X as DISPLAY :1 |
| 03:36:59 | crh | sjohnson: ...if I've got the tiny X server installed and running, yes? |
| 03:38:03 | sjohnson | It shoud work. |
| 03:38:30 | crh | Okay. There's just been an X server port to Zaurus. Probably from Familiar. |
| 03:38:35 | crh | I'll give it a shot. |
| 03:38:50 | sjohnson | but I don't know for sure. It's neen away since I followed progress on the Voyaer cards under X |
| 03:39:23 | crh | I was hoping that there was a developer web page or contact info for the Voyager code. |
| 03:43:18 | crh | sjohnson: Thanks! G'night... |
| 04:41:34 | jawse | has anyone used version 0.5.1 yet, is it stable |
| 04:42:41 | sven | in my exp. you're best off.. |
| 04:42:49 | sven | installing .5 and upgrading |
| 04:43:24 | jawse | thanx ill try that |
| 04:43:38 | sven | you must be new |
| 04:44:27 | sven | once you get everything installed and connected, go here: |
| 04:44:32 | sven | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpkgFeeds |
| 04:59:49 | beeblebrox | is back (gone 13:06:13) |
| 10:50:10 | error | hello all |
| 10:50:26 | _MAX_ | hi |
| 10:50:54 | _MAX_ | btw...maybe someone is interrested. At http://www.remote-exploit.org is the wellenreiter project. |
| 10:51:06 | _MAX_ | Its a wireless monitor analyzing tool |
| 10:51:48 | error | I am coming back from a long absense period... I have just ipkg upgraded everything and X broke :) |
| 10:52:14 | error | any already discussed cause in the last days/weeks/months ? :) |
| 10:52:27 | error | starts looking in the mailing list archives |
| 10:54:30 | error | wtf is /proc/hal? :) |
| 11:09:53 | alexksso | hi :) |
| 11:42:31 | alexksso | got a question .. what is the latest stable release of familiar what's that 5.1? |
| 11:45:04 | alexksso | and what's the .6 too ? |
| 12:30:27 | _MAX_ | btw...maybe someone is interrested. At http://www.remote-exploit.org is the wellenreiter project. Its a wireless scanner / monitor. |
| 12:30:36 | _MAX_ | runs on my ipaq familiar |
| 13:49:59 | Morn | is away: showering (no peeking!) |
| 14:15:25 | Morn | is back (gone 00:25:25) |
| 14:34:42 | alexksso | i'm happy :)) |
| 14:34:50 | alexksso | 0.5 is stable indeed :)) |
| 14:35:10 | alexksso | nothing to compare to 0.5.1 |
| 14:39:32 | bipolar | is back (gone 11:12:29) |
| 15:28:37 | Haukka | Whats wrong with the modules-packages. They install wrong links in the /lib/modules/<kernel>/pcmcia directory. Also the modules.dep and modules.pcimap links are created wrong. Happens with both 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 kernel packages. |
| 15:32:33 | alexksso | wait :) |
| 15:32:45 | Haukka | wait? |
| 15:32:46 | alexksso | you tried to install 0.5.1 didn't you ? |
| 15:33:06 | Haukka | Yes. But also tried modules packages from 0.5. |
| 15:33:21 | alexksso | yep bun therer is a huge symlink bug in 5.1 |
| 15:33:31 | Haukka | Ok... :) |
| 15:33:44 | Haukka | I was wondering whats it all about. :) |
| 15:33:46 | alexksso | i don't know where the pb is but ALL the links are wrong |
| 15:34:07 | alexksso | when i tired to install it I had to relink all the libs by hand |
| 15:35:40 | Haukka | Ouch. |
| 15:36:23 | Haukka | So all ipkgs I try to install will have problems with symlinks_ |
| 15:36:34 | Haukka | Or just kernel related ones? |
| 16:30:31 | Haukka | Can oneone build a kernel module with a small fix for the 3c589 driver for me? Takes ages to setup a dev environment... |
| 16:37:56 | cobwebBill | does anyone know about irda on familiar 0.5? i actually wrote the 0.4 wiki howto but that was more a case of compiling stuff i had found out from elsewhere. when i repeat the howto for 0.5 it doesn't work. |
| 17:21:04 | cobwebBill | sorry. got to leave. back monday. |
| 17:30:24 | nino | in which mode can i fix the linuxargs on my bootldr? |
| 21:05:08 | kbarr | what kernel/.config combo was used to produce Familiar 5? i though devfs-hh12 + h3600-devfs, but that doesn't compile, breaking at "can't open wireless_net.o" |
| 21:09:09 | gelus | hola |
| 21:19:15 | kbarr | anyone know what causes this: arm-linux-ld: cannot open drivers/net/wireless/wireless_net.o: No such file or directory |
| 21:21:25 | jgood | anyone got a wireless card working in Familiar v0.5? |
| 21:22:04 | kbarr | my enterasys roamabout worked out of the box. lucent orinoco silver is flakey, i think. |
| 21:24:56 | jgood | i've got a xircom card. |
| 21:25:22 | jgood | hmmm, i thought i'd have to install some additional pckgs over a ppp connection before I could get it working |
| 21:25:58 | kbarr | thinks its more likely you need to muck around with a conf file like wireless.opts or hermes.cong\f |
| 21:26:17 | kbarr | though I'm hardly an authority! |
| 21:26:38 | jgood | well, i'm new to linux in general so anything helps |
| 21:26:52 | jgood | i'm just blindly following howtos from handhelds.org |
| 21:31:00 | jgood | well frigg, i just tried booting it up and it found the card. step 1 down |
| 21:31:08 | jgood | now i need to get it connecting to the network |
| 21:31:17 | jgood | i hate it when you overlook the obvious! |
| 21:31:39 | kbarr | we're lucky here in that DHCP feeds the card all necessary routes. |
| 21:31:48 | Haukka | How can one make bash to accept longer argument lists_ |
| 21:31:52 | kbarr | trying pinging things. |
| 21:33:01 | jgood | i can't ping the gateway |
| 21:33:23 | jgood | when i type 'ifconfig' i only get the local loopback |
| 21:41:51 | banshee | ifconfig up the interface |
| 21:46:03 | Haukka | Is the 2.4 CVS in handhelds still versioned as 2.4.16-rmk1? |
| 21:46:44 | jgood | i can't see any eth0 or anything in /dev |
| 21:47:48 | jgood | i'm gonna do some more reading and come back when i have a real problem... thanks for all help |
| 21:52:38 | smok_ | Haukka: use xargs |
| 21:53:02 | banshee | there normally isn't an eth0 eth1 or any interfaces in /dev |
| 21:53:32 | Haukka | smok_: Well, the problem was in the linux makefile, so I didn't want to change it... but I already made changes to go around it. |
| 21:54:45 | smok_ | ok |
| 21:56:08 | jgood | banshee: i saw the xircom wireless card listed in bootup. is there anyway to see it's "active" in someway? |
| 22:01:09 | Haukka | from ifconfig? |
| 22:01:51 | banshee | jgood: ifconfig -a and see if you have any ethX's listed |
| 22:15:36 | Haukka | I still can't believe that the 3c589 driver is broken... |
| 22:46:12 | smok_ | is away: - gone to bed |
| 22:50:49 | jgood | there aren't any ethX's listed |
| 22:51:04 | jgood | i'm guessing that means that there's no ethernet device avtive |
| 22:51:07 | jgood | correct? |
| 22:51:35 | jgood | if i am correct, then does anyone know how to enable one of these devices |
| 22:51:36 | jgood | ??? |
| 22:53:39 | a7r | what card did you plug in? |
| 22:56:03 | jgood | a Xircom wireless card |
| 23:02:08 | a7r | hrm. which chipset? |
| 23:03:41 | jgood | gimme a sec |
| 23:03:47 | jgood | i'm looking |
| 23:03:56 | jgood | it's a Cisco model AIRPCM340 |
| 23:04:02 | jgood | is that what you meant? |