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| 04:30.25 | ildar[m] | quarterback : surely not the author. Just my suggestions, nothing clever, welcome )) |
| 04:30.52 | quarterback | ildar[m], Thanks |
| 04:31.05 | quarterback | Are you in russia? |
| 04:31.25 | ildar[m] | close. Kazakhstan. |
| 04:31.42 | quarterback | People in that region use ) instead of :) |
| 04:31.50 | quarterback | So I recognized :) |
| 04:32.20 | ildar[m] | oh! ð |
| 04:32.55 | quarterback | It seems preparing a elinux board is daunting. I have worked on it before and putting a board altogether is a daunting task. |
| 04:33.04 | ildar[m] | we have quite a history of using smiles. e.g. http://www.kolobok.us/ |
| 04:34.04 | quarterback | Interesting. |
| 04:34.17 | quarterback | Do you work on embedded boards? |
| 04:34.27 | ildar[m] | that's why most people just use ready-made and popular SBC as building blocks |
| 04:34.48 | ildar[m] | not. amateur here |
| 04:35.08 | quarterback | SBC seems pretty easy than custom developed boards. |
| 04:35.12 | ildar[m] | I bought OrangePi |
| 04:35.22 | ildar[m] | extreamly cheap )) |
| 04:35.34 | ildar[m] | yep |
| 04:35.48 | ildar[m] | but they fit for many applications |
| 04:35.56 | ildar[m] | so why not? |
| 04:37.08 | quarterback | Looks interesting. I would probably get one myself. |
| 04:37.53 | quarterback | There was something similar, raspberry pi zero which had minimal configuration. |
| 04:38.19 | quarterback | https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-zero/ |
| 04:38.25 | ildar[m] | ⺠|
| 04:39.15 | quarterback | One thing I've seen is that these boards lack a good power supply pin. The usb power supply is not rugged and not an option if you want to make the board to run for years. |
| 04:39.36 | quarterback | It would have been better if the board had a 5v power supply with normal pins. |
| 04:40.11 | ildar[m] | mine has it. |
| 04:40.12 | ildar[m] | )) |
| 04:40.24 | ildar[m] | Orange Pi One |
| 04:41.03 | quarterback | That is perhaps better. |
| 04:41.42 | quarterback | I was talking about raspberry pi series. The only disadvantage with that was the power supply was usb and not a normal power supply. |
| 04:41.50 | ildar[m] | but I spent a week finding the connector ð |
| 04:42.02 | quarterback | Looks like you found a good board. |
| 04:42.18 | ildar[m] | USB is great you just plug it and quickly test |
| 04:42.27 | ildar[m] | )) |
| 04:42.30 | ildar[m] | 10 bucks |
| 04:42.43 | quarterback | I wouldn't want to power a board with usb for longer periods. |
| 04:43.05 | ildar[m] | sure, that's just two different use-cases |
| 04:44.34 | quarterback | Yes, usb power is for hobbyists and normal power pins are for professionals. |
| 04:45.30 | ildar[m] | ð |
| 04:45.41 | ildar[m] | then I have got the wrong one |
| 04:47.16 | quarterback | You seem to have said your power supply is not usb. |
| 04:48.04 | ildar[m] | exactly. But I'm an amateur, amateurs should take USB option $) |
| 04:48.04 | ildar[m] | ð |
| 04:53.27 | quarterback | Have you tried buildroot? |
| 04:54.04 | ildar[m] | not yet. |
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| 05:01.27 | quarterback | Are you following any book such as "building embedded linux systems"? |
| 05:01.58 | quarterback | I am wondering what other people are doing. Are they using web based documentation for building embedded linux boards? |
| 05:04.25 | ildar[m] | emm, no. Just exploring freely. |
| 05:04.26 | ildar[m] | I kinda follow Grenning - "Test Driven Development for Embedded C" |
| 05:05.32 | ildar[m] | btw the MOST advanced ppl I've seen in embedded are on #oe channel |
| 05:11.13 | quarterback | Some of the orange boards have emmc storage. I wonder how long do they last if you load embedded linux in it and write an application too. |
| 05:13.11 | ildar[m] | I doubt you can find MTBF info |
| 05:13.12 | ildar[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_time_between_failures |
| 05:13.31 | quarterback | It doesn' |
| 05:13.43 | quarterback | It doesn't say anything about emmc storage used in embedded boards. |
| 05:14.22 | ildar[m] | I mean doubtful someone made such statistics |
| 05:14.23 | quarterback | Many smart phones have emmc storage too and they seem to work for 4 to 5 years effortlessly. |
| 05:15.41 | ildar[m] | yep... well... try to find the chip name of the eMMC and MTBF info on it |
| 05:16.13 | ildar[m] | but it surely depends on write intensity and such |
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