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01:25.14 | TimRiker | elinux.org backup about done, server upgrade coming soon. |
01:51.53 | wmat | TimRiker: awesome |
01:57.40 | TimRiker | k. starting the upgrade... |
02:06.01 | TimRiker | crap crap crap.... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454638 |
02:08.19 | TimRiker | the vz kernel they are using appears to be incompatible with glib 2.7 which is in lenny. |
02:08.57 | TimRiker | now I'm logged in on a broken system. ls -l / and similar fail. but ls -l works. |
02:11.27 | wmat | can you downgrade glib? |
02:11.51 | TimRiker | not very easily. |
02:11.59 | TimRiker | looking at it now. |
02:12.24 | TimRiker | home/wmat/backups ... great... we have backups of our backups |
02:13.15 | wmat | heh, those were temporary |
02:13.20 | wmat | I just didn't delete them yet |
02:14.15 | TimRiker | yeah.. now they are all in the backups and taking a while to restore. |
02:14.40 | TimRiker | note: /mnt is NOT backed up. so if you have some temp dirs, please put them there. |
02:14.59 | wmat | ah, will do |
02:32.07 | TimRiker | argh.... not having much luck.... |
02:38.41 | wmat | with the libc downgrade or are you fully restoring? |
02:50.19 | TimRiker | libc* etc downgrade. |
02:50.39 | TimRiker | ssh is back now... doing some tests before starting up apache etc. |
02:52.37 | wmat | is upgrading mediawiki only a possibility? from the unstable deb perhaps |
02:56.44 | TimRiker | mailman is installed? |
02:57.00 | TimRiker | Is qrunner even running? |
02:57.00 | TimRiker | Site list is missing: mailman |
02:57.00 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
02:57.13 | TimRiker | that's the error from trying to restart it. |
02:58.27 | wmat | we had mailing lists working |
02:58.59 | wmat | but they can stay down for now if you want to just get the wiki back up for now |
03:00.23 | TimRiker | I think everything is back up... I should probably reboot to make sure it all comes back. k? |
03:00.52 | wmat | ok |
03:01.36 | TimRiker | I moved your backups to /mnt and symlinked to there. |
03:01.45 | wmat | thx |
03:02.28 | TimRiker | rebooting now... |
03:03.03 | TimRiker | looks like it all came back ok. |
03:03.23 | wmat | cool |
03:04.18 | TimRiker | well that was fun.. not. |
03:04.32 | wmat | sorry about that, Tim :( |
03:04.51 | TimRiker | I think we should ask the hosting folks if they have a schedule to move to a newer kernel sometime. |
03:05.17 | TimRiker | 2.6.9 is old, and the vz patches back then included some ugly hacks. |
03:06.26 | wmat | sure, i can do that |
03:08.28 | wmat | what do you think about just upgrading MW from the later debs? |
03:13.13 | wmat | ok, i submitted the question |
03:18.14 | wmat | TimRiker: I've informed the CELF office to expect a reply from GoDaddy and to forward it along. I'm going to crash now. Thx again. |
03:18.25 | TimRiker | k |
03:18.33 | TimRiker | just sent an email on it. |
03:18.39 | TimRiker | to you and tbird. |
03:19.15 | TimRiker | I'd try a MW upgrade on another etch install first. perhaps a vm session etc. just in case. |
03:19.46 | TimRiker | probably will work, but I'd recommend trying it someplace else first. |
03:20.01 | TimRiker | nite! |
03:22.21 | wmat | i've got a machine beside me with 1.7 on it, so I'll try it there. But tomorrow, I'm fading quickly. |
03:33.50 | TimRiker | agreed. nite. |
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13:46.54 | mnemoc | http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/4/30/182 <--- finally a kernel-mantained /dev again :p |
13:48.16 | MonMotha | as awful as devfs was, it was quite useful on embedded stuff |
13:48.31 | MonMotha | I wonder what the "non-embedded" people will have to say about this |
13:51.57 | russ | dunno, I thought mdev works quite well on embedded devices |
13:52.58 | mnemoc | it does, but coldplugging hurts booting times anyway |
13:52.58 | russ | maybe someone should make a /bin/sh with integrated mdev |
13:53.20 | MonMotha | will this let me boot my PCs with SATA without an initrd finally? |
13:53.57 | mnemoc | probably you will need to `modprobe` anyway :p |
13:54.52 | MonMotha | the requirement for an initrd/initramfs in order to have a SATA device on / always bugged me |
13:56.00 | mnemoc | that only depends in how modular your kernel was built |
13:56.23 | MonMotha | I had a laptop that I could NOT get to find /dev/sda (my SATA hard drive) until after the initramfs ran no matter what I tried |
13:56.43 | MonMotha | I built a custom kernel with all that stuff turned on, and it wouldn't be able to mount it |
13:56.54 | mnemoc | but my roots (except on embedded) are always on LVM so I don't have many alternatives |
13:57.00 | mnemoc | uh |
13:57.02 | MonMotha | dropped the same exact setup onto a system with PATA and it worked fine |
13:57.10 | mnemoc | that's odd |
13:57.20 | MonMotha | several others have reported the same thing happening |
13:57.36 | MonMotha | <PROTECTED> |
13:57.48 | russ | MonMotha: its not a spinup issue, is it? |
13:57.54 | MonMotha | I didn't have the time to investigate any further |
13:58.01 | gustavoz | that's odd, i've got all of my sata machines fine without an initrd |
13:58.03 | MonMotha | russ: the bootloader was on the same drive :) |
13:58.16 | MonMotha | so the drive was obviously fully up and ready |
13:58.17 | mnemoc | rootdelay= helps a lot |
13:58.29 | MonMotha | yes, it's possible that it just needed a delay |
13:58.36 | MonMotha | I don't think that option existed when I was attempting this |
13:58.38 | gustavoz | or maybe async scsi scanning is kicking in |
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