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18:12.55 | mbuf | for an embedded x86 platform, would you prefer a perl-CGI/DB program with Apache or php/mysql with Apache? |
18:13.45 | CosmicPenguin | I wouldn't use apache in either situation |
18:15.13 | mbuf | so something like boa or thttpd, maybe? in that case perl is the one to be used ? |
18:16.32 | kergoth | there are small webservers that support php, some without cgi. nanoweb (iirc) is actually written in php ;) |
18:16.42 | kergoth | appweb looks extremely featureful, though i havent tried it myself |
18:16.58 | mbuf | i see |
18:19.23 | CosmicPenguin | You'r really not thinking embedded if you believe you need both scripted language CGI + web server on your boxen |
18:19.44 | CosmicPenguin | get the faster processor and just make a little embedded web server box in that case |
18:20.05 | kergoth | well, there are valid reasons for such a thing |
18:20.17 | CosmicPenguin | but if you have an embedded box that does want to provide web services (like a wireless router), then thttpd or something similar + C based CGI should be fine |
18:20.59 | kergoth | i'm drawing a blank.. whats the protocol that lets you upload to web pages and stuff? |
18:20.59 | CosmicPenguin | at least in my experience |
18:21.05 | CosmicPenguin | POST? |
18:21.20 | kergoth | no, more extensive than post.. |
18:21.23 | kergoth | damnit, i hate my memory |
18:21.25 | CosmicPenguin | DAV |
18:21.28 | kergoth | there it is |
18:21.31 | CosmicPenguin | evil |
18:21.35 | kergoth | i could see a pda like device using webdav for comm |
18:21.44 | kergoth | in fact, i've worked on one for a company, though it never released |
18:21.45 | kergoth | :P |
18:21.50 | CosmicPenguin | you could do DAV in C though |
18:22.52 | CosmicPenguin | To me, its the notion of arbitrary scripts that causes pain |
18:23.12 | kergoth | yeah |
18:23.24 | kergoth | if i really wanted scriptability on an embedded device, web or otherwise, i'd go with lua or something |
18:23.30 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
18:24.30 | mbuf | think of it as a small box useful in shops |
18:24.53 | mbuf | for owners to do their daily accounts calculation |
18:24.53 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: how powerful is the processor? |
18:25.11 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, maybe a DSP or even an x86 processor |
18:25.19 | CosmicPenguin | you didn't answer the question |
18:25.57 | mbuf | 500 MHz, maybe |
18:26.10 | mbuf | or 200 Mhz ARM core |
18:26.44 | CosmicPenguin | why would you need scriptable CGI? |
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18:28.23 | mbuf | if it is an accounting page, thought will do a perl-CGI with a browser; backend can be db or mysql |
18:30.15 | CosmicPenguin | So, use C + sqlite + thttpd and you're there |
18:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | you don't *need* perl |
18:30.34 | mbuf | ok |
18:31.05 | kergoth | to be fair, they may have web people that dont know C, and C coders who dont know html :) |
18:31.36 | kergoth | wonder if you can compile perl to an elf binary, or if you'd have to compile to bytecode and prepackage an interpreter(lame and of no benefit) |
18:31.43 | CosmicPenguin | heh - well, then I would suggest to swap up to a Turion level processor and just run a standard distro on it |
18:32.06 | kergoth | hehe |
18:33.43 | mbuf | thanks; later |
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19:26.28 | cbrake | its a little slow, but for a control interface where only one user is using it, it works out well |
19:27.03 | cbrake | http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/46/9/ |
19:29.11 | kergoth | huh, clearsilver looks neat, hadnt heard of it :) |
19:30.16 | cbrake | kergoth: yeah, clearsilver is very cool. Its small and fast. You can also use it with a C or python backend. |
19:31.26 | cbrake | kergoth: it also does a lot of the http header parsing, extracts POST/GET parms, etc. |
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