| 00:02.35 | kergoth | how goes it? |
| 00:02.36 | TimRiker | on vac in philly atm. |
| 00:03.44 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 00:07.39 | TimRiker | saw independance hall, the liberty bell. went over to nyc to statue of liberty, etc. |
| 00:08.09 | TimRiker | recorded a cd with the family of show tunes and stuff at a studio. it's been fun. just got the gold discs in. |
| 00:09.04 | kergoth | fun :) never been to that area |
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| 00:21.24 | TimRiker | well, since I grew up in upstate NY, it makes me homesick. everything is green. :) unlike Utah where I live now :( |
| 00:21.53 | TimRiker | well, gotta get kids to bed might be back later. |
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| 02:28.08 | flyback | http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=3661 |
| 02:28.09 | flyback | damn |
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| 09:53.24 | ignatoff | hi all ... in need to do a mknod for a USB storage device ... what major and minor should i use ? |
| 10:12.50 | Pavlov_ | They appear as SCSI devices, so major 8. |
| 10:13.14 | Pavlov_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:13.20 | Pavlov_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:52.44 | ignatoff | Pavlov_: i just did mknod using 8,0 however when i do 'mount -t vfat foo bar' it comes back with ... |
| 10:52.59 | ignatoff | mount: Mounting /dev/usb/stick on /mnt/usbstick failed: No such device |
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| 12:39.43 | YazzY | what is the most common programming lang for embedded devices to create web interface ? Using PHP is out of question since it's too big |
| 12:40.00 | YazzY | so are python, perl or ruby |
| 12:40.16 | Redhatter | YazzY, Perl most likely... |
| 12:40.19 | Redhatter | or C/C++ |
| 12:40.26 | YazzY | right, C as cgi |
| 12:40.41 | YazzY | openwrt uses nvram thingy |
| 12:40.43 | Redhatter | Yeah... I've done CGIs in C++... they work quite well :-) |
| 12:40.57 | YazzY | what about haskel ? |
| 12:41.57 | Redhatter | Possible, I know you can write CGIs in Haskell... a few subjects at Griffith Univerity, use web forums which are written in Haskell. |
| 12:42.40 | Redhatter | http://stuartl.longlandclan.hopto.org/music/ <-- that's an example of a C++ app. Runs just as fast on my Qube2 (LE MIPS RM5231 @ 250MHz) as it does on that PIII box. |
| 12:43.06 | Redhatter | The thing with an interpreted app, is you've got the overhead of the interpreter. |
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| 12:43.52 | YazzY | true but this is not that importand on small devices used as say wireless home routers |
| 12:44.26 | Redhatter | Indeed :-) |
| 12:44.28 | YazzY | pluss python, ruby or perl are pretty quick even though they are interpreted |
| 12:44.45 | Redhatter | Python gets compiled to byte-code doesn't it? |
| 12:45.39 | YazzY | it can be |
| 12:46.01 | YazzY | Redhatter: could you share with some C++ examples ? |
| 12:46.22 | Redhatter | YazzY, I could... but you don't want be copying my ugly code :-P |
| 12:46.34 | Redhatter | cgicc is the library I use |
| 12:46.42 | Redhatter | http://www.gnu.org/software/cgicc/cgicc.html |
| 12:47.11 | YazzY | thanks |
| 12:47.32 | YazzY | i guess i will brush up my C++ knowledge and go for it |
| 12:47.48 | YazzY | is cgicc portable ? |
| 12:48.04 | YazzY | i will be needing to use it for XScale (ARM) |
| 12:48.37 | Redhatter | Not sure about ARM... but as I say, I'm using it on MIPS without any issues. |
| 12:49.04 | YazzY | ah, then it should work on arm as well |
| 12:49.13 | Redhatter | Ironically, I find it easier to debug on MIPS, than on i686... the latter doesn't generate proper backtraces. |
| 12:49.41 | YazzY | yah, gods know why we use x86 |
| 12:50.01 | YazzY | when nearly everything else is much better |
| 12:50.11 | YazzY | alpha is one of examples |
| 12:51.05 | YazzY | Redhatter: btw, it has it's own url: http://www.cgicc.org/ |
| 12:51.18 | YazzY | s/url/domain |
| 12:51.28 | Redhatter | Heh, I googled :-) |
| 12:51.57 | Redhatter | Indeed... we're forced into Wintel because almost everyone's in bed with Microsoft. :-/ |
| 12:52.40 | Redhatter | The fact that Sun, DEC, HP, IBM and SGI had machines that shat all over any Intel PC ever made, is irrelevant. |
| 12:53.58 | Redhatter | Ohh... and Apple |
| 12:54.20 | YazzY | apple used powerpcc |
| 12:54.22 | YazzY | from ibm |
| 12:55.04 | YazzY | and motorola before that afair |
| 12:58.47 | Redhatter | Yeah, I know. |
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| 13:06.42 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:08.23 | YazzY | Redhatter: i found http://www.eekim.com/software/cgihtml/cgihtml.html |
| 13:08.30 | YazzY | it's also included in snapgear |
| 13:09.48 | Redhatter | YazzY, Ahh... a purely C lib |
| 13:09.54 | YazzY | yes sir |
| 13:10.10 | Redhatter | I'll admit... while I don't mind C... memory allocation and string processing is a pain. |
| 13:10.25 | Redhatter | C++ (IMHO) is just a *little* nicer :-) |
| 13:10.30 | YazzY | :) |
| 13:11.43 | YazzY | well, i will give C a chance |
| 13:12.39 | YazzY | i'd most preferably store my configs in XML and parse them with my code |
| 14:05.59 | YazzY | Redhatter: http://haserl.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:07.03 | Redhatter | YazzY, Nice :-) |
| 14:07.25 | YazzY | :) |
| 14:18.43 | flyback | <flyback-> HDMI adopters pay an annual fee of $15 000 and $0.15 for every single end-user product featuring HDMI sold. If the adopter uses the HDMI logo on the product and promotional materials, then the rate drops to $0.05 per unit sold. If the Adopter implements HDCP content protection as set forth in the HDMI specification, then the royalty rate is further reduced to $0.04 per uni |
| 14:18.43 | flyback | [10:18] <flyback-> what a cheap trick |
| 14:18.48 | flyback | cock suckery at it's finest |
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| 16:12.05 | youam | i'm trying to boot an arm box with console on serial, but after the "freeing init memory"-message, the console plays dead. any hints, why? |
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