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| 00:13.29 | bioeng | Hi everyone |
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| 00:16.33 | bioeng | I have some questions about embedded programming |
| 00:16.57 | kergoth | if you have questions, ask them. preliminaries arent necessary |
| 00:17.03 | bioeng | OK |
| 00:17.31 | bioeng | So is embedded software engineering a good career to pursue for an EE/CompE? |
| 00:18.14 | kergoth | maybe someone else can answer. its hard for me to say, given i have no degree :P |
| 00:19.29 | bioeng | What do you do as a career kergoth? |
| 00:19.46 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/resume.pdf |
| 00:21.26 | bioeng | WOW! |
| 00:22.07 | bioeng | Anyways, my friend got a cool job as an embedded software engineer at Boeing |
| 00:22.20 | bioeng | So I want to emulate her success |
| 00:22.42 | kergoth | ah, that's cool |
| 00:23.04 | bioeng | I realized that I needed to do something with my life when... |
| 00:23.13 | bioeng | the engineering honor society rejected me |
| 00:23.23 | bioeng | It was because of lack of experience |
| 00:23.45 | bioeng | I was very limited in options in my home region |
| 00:23.56 | bioeng | so I decided to do the following: |
| 00:24.21 | bioeng | My family has owned a construction/trucking company for the past ten years |
| 00:24.27 | bioeng | One of the largest in the region |
| 00:24.56 | bioeng | They also started an aquaculture facility that is profitable. I am 1/4 partner |
| 00:25.20 | bioeng | I was able to obtain a biology degree to supplement that last December |
| 00:25.38 | bioeng | I had also been concurrently working on two engineering degrees |
| 00:25.53 | bioeng | I'll have one done next May and the other a year from December |
| 00:26.12 | bioeng | What I am wanting to do is to create my own organization dedicated to science and engineering |
| 00:26.38 | bioeng | Essentially I want to be an entrepreneur specializing in science and engineering ventures |
| 00:26.57 | bioeng | The two existing businesses would become part of the organization |
| 00:27.18 | bioeng | The problem is electrical/computer engineering experience |
| 00:27.44 | bioeng | Until I found this community, I thought I would not be able to get any experience |
| 00:28.07 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.07 | flyback | [16:13] <flyback> [16:12] <flyback> since the usb id is the same |
| 00:28.07 | flyback | [16:13] <flyback> [16:12] <flyback> how the hell do I tell which chip I have |
| 00:28.07 | flyback | [16:13] <flyback> [16:12] <flyback> the 611 the 702 or the 811 |
| 00:28.29 | bioeng | But now, I think I just might be able to get the experience I need in all three fields (civil and electrical engineering, biology) |
| 00:28.41 | bioeng | So I'm reading books now |
| 00:28.48 | bioeng | One is over Linux |
| 00:28.53 | bioeng | The other is on game programming |
| 00:29.10 | bioeng | I've already covered the basics of C++, C, and to an extent assembler |
| 00:29.15 | bioeng | And so I'm here |
| 00:29.22 | bioeng | I know that was a mouthful |
| 00:29.43 | bioeng | But I just wanted to introduce myself and thank you for being so nice |
| 00:30.17 | bioeng | So do any of you have any questions? |
| 00:32.10 | flyback | hi :) |
| 00:33.00 | flyback | j/k :P |
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| 12:57.48 | chouimat | morning |
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| 17:16.08 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.11 | flyback | [16:13] <flyback> [16:12] <flyback> since the usb id is the same |
| 17:16.16 | flyback | [16:13] <flyback> [16:12] <flyback> how the hell do I tell which chip I have |
| 17:16.19 | flyback | [16:13] <flyback> [16:12] <flyback> the 611 the 702 or the 811 |
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| 19:35.05 | kergoth | ooh |
| 19:35.28 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.31 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.56 | TimRiker | I invited him in here, so watch for strangers. ;-) |
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| 19:39.22 | kergoth | TimRiker: where you working at nowadays? still doing the cluster thing? |
| 19:40.35 | TimRiker | yep. I took over provisioning now. it's fun to remotely reboot a few hundred machines and watch them all pxe boot and install linux in a couple hours. |
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| 19:49.01 | kergoth | TimRiker: sounds fun, certainly a change from what you were doing before |
| 19:49.20 | TimRiker | true true. change is good once in a while. |
| 19:50.03 | TimRiker | it's the heat that would get to me. less humidity than dallas, but still an oven. |
| 19:50.54 | kergoth | yeah, thats exactly what it feels like, like you're being slowly baked |
| 19:51.02 | kergoth | at least i dont feel like i'm swimming to the car |
| 19:53.45 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:53.55 | Crofton | Just got back from a whirl wind Phoenix trip |
| 19:54.03 | Crofton | didn;t have time to look you up kergoth |
| 19:54.09 | kergoth | no worries, i figured |
| 19:54.18 | Crofton | Where are you anyway? |
| 19:54.41 | kergoth | work like a mile north of the gd facility on mcdowell |
| 19:54.49 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:54.49 | kergoth | right on hayden still |
| 19:54.54 | Crofton | we werei in mcdowell |
| 19:54.59 | Crofton | where are yuou staying? |
| 19:55.10 | kergoth | i was just over at gd last week working on a bug in their lab |
| 19:55.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:55.28 | Crofton | we stayed at the marriot courtyard just south of old town scottsdale |
| 19:55.35 | Crofton | what day? |
| 19:55.38 | kergoth | gilbert. southeast of scottsdale, at an extended stay hotel |
| 19:55.45 | Crofton | ah |
| 19:55.59 | Crofton | maxr's wife went to gilbert on her way back from Tuscon |
| 19:56.40 | Crofton | we taught our class on Tues/Wed this week |
| 19:56.55 | Crofton | I came back on the red eye last night, still pretty groggy |
| 19:57.09 | kergoth | i dont remember what day actually, my memory sucks. i cant remember the guy's name that i was working with over there already :P |
| 19:57.16 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:57.24 | Crofton | I don;t remember anyones name |
| 19:57.26 | kergoth | how was the trip? |
| 19:57.31 | Crofton | good |
| 19:57.40 | Crofton | they seemed to learn stuff from the class we did |
| 19:57.51 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:57.54 | Crofton | yeah |
| 19:58.00 | kergoth | i gotta say, i'm not exactly impressed with gd |
| 19:58.06 | Crofton | with some luck they will ask us to come back sometime |
| 19:58.09 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:58.22 | Crofton | they suffer from large cntractor disease |
| 19:58.24 | kergoth | they have like 50 systems engineers and they end up coming to our one for help and shit |
| 19:58.32 | kergoth | tons of managers and hardly anyone doing any real work |
| 19:58.33 | Crofton | exactly |
| 19:59.17 | Crofton | this sort of thing happens at large companies |
| 19:59.23 | Crofton | everyone wants to be a boss |
| 19:59.23 | kergoth | yeah, unfortunate |
| 19:59.39 | Crofton | my non-defense large company stint has similar issues |
| 19:59.51 | kergoth | i dont want to go into management myself, too much crap to deal with. think the most i'll do is get into an architect role between the managers and the engineers |
| 19:59.54 | kergoth | ah :\ |
| 19:59.59 | Crofton | yeah |
| 20:00.14 | Crofton | so you'll become one of the people who doesn't want to work |
| 20:00.16 | Crofton | :) |
| 20:00.26 | Crofton | learn about model driven architectures |
| 20:00.36 | kergoth | hehe. well, i enjoy figuring out /how/ to do things more than i do the actual doing of them, so that might not suck |
| 20:00.36 | Crofton | once this is figured out, no one will ever code again |
| 20:00.39 | kergoth | i get bored as a code monkey |
| 20:01.21 | Crofton | I know what you mean |
| 20:01.51 | Crofton | I need to go look at some un fun code and fix it ..... |
| 20:02.27 | Crofton | Thursday AM I walked up Camelback |
| 20:02.39 | Crofton | with no water in chacos |
| 20:02.51 | kergoth | heh, that doesnt sound good |
| 20:03.00 | Crofton | I'm sure the locals that saw me were clutching their cell phones, poised to dial 911 |
| 20:03.08 | Crofton | I made it :) |
| 20:03.24 | Crofton | There was a distinct sense of accomplishment |
| 20:03.37 | kergoth | i'm trying to figure out how people do bicycling here |
| 20:03.42 | kergoth | how do you carry enough water on the bike? |
| 20:03.47 | Crofton | I saw some people on bikes |
| 20:29.58 | TimRiker | cool. I emailed USDTV and they say they will ship me a firmware image. Had to email them back with the version I have first. We'll see what happens. |
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| 20:36.23 | Crofton | what is usdtv? |
| 20:40.53 | Wingnut | kergoth: I know a bunch of people in Phoenix, so if you need something to do, I can get you in touch with them |
| 20:41.17 | CosmicPenguin | its sad that the only BT push server I can find is KDE based |
| 20:49.56 | TimRiker | from usdtv: "I forwarded your information to our warehouse. You should receive your update in 10 business days." |
| 20:50.18 | TimRiker | sweet. |
| 20:51.00 | TimRiker | http://elinux.org/wiki/HiSense |
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| 21:38.12 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: the state of bluetooth in linux is pretty sad imho |
| 21:38.36 | CosmicPenguin | its better then it has been |
| 21:45.49 | kergoth | this is true, but thats not saying much :) |
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| 22:31.27 | kergoth | sigh. i'm stuck on this bug i'm working on, and have nothing else on my plate |
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