| 00:17.38 | fishhead | <fishhead> prpplague |
| 00:17.38 | fishhead | [18:16] <fishhead> is the videonow jr hackable worth anything ? |
| 00:17.38 | fishhead | [18:16] <fishhead> http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=YTNSLGZKLUWRIQSNDBESKHA?articleID=185303137 <--- cool mabye supercaps will get cheaper |
| 00:17.38 | fishhead | [18:17] <fishhead> btw the pixter multimedia was down to $19 but only one there |
| 00:17.38 | fishhead | [18:17] <fishhead> man was I tempted |
| 00:17.39 | fishhead | [18:17] <fishhead> but I got too many piles of s*** waiting to be hacked |
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| 00:47.02 | prpplague | sjhill: greetings oh great code from the planet designated by the federations as NPTL-01 |
| 00:47.09 | prpplague | s/code/coder |
| 00:52.10 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 00:52.58 | prpplague | sjhill: whats cookin? |
| 00:53.08 | sjhill | working on my resume |
| 00:53.16 | sjhill | and cleaning up my lab a bit |
| 00:53.16 | prpplague | sjhill: ???? |
| 00:53.22 | sjhill | i have like a 60 item TODO list |
| 00:53.32 | sjhill | which i haven't touched since working on NPTL |
| 00:53.41 | prpplague | sjhill: uh, you expecting to be moving along soon? |
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| 00:54.04 | sjhill | not especially |
| 00:54.15 | prpplague | ahh |
| 00:54.18 | sjhill | maybe |
| 00:54.20 | sjhill | i don't know |
| 00:54.27 | prpplague | hmm |
| 00:54.30 | sjhill | a number of people have requested an updated one |
| 00:54.36 | sjhill | a get a steady stream of offers |
| 00:54.37 | prpplague | doesn't sound too fixed |
| 00:54.42 | prpplague | ahh |
| 00:54.54 | sjhill | i had a bad day at work, so it's just coincidence |
| 00:55.00 | prpplague | hehehe |
| 00:56.05 | prpplague | sjhill: yea, i'm wondering if i'm gonna get tired of board bringups |
| 00:56.08 | prpplague | sjhill: right now i can;t see it |
| 00:56.33 | prpplague | sjhill: i have too much fun with the hardware side of the codew |
| 00:58.08 | sjhill | yeah |
| 00:58.12 | sjhill | sounds like fun |
| 00:58.18 | sjhill | i'm doing some similar stuff |
| 00:58.30 | sjhill | it's just 2 projects i'm on have hardware issues |
| 00:58.38 | sjhill | one of them is absolutely hideous.....really bad design |
| 00:58.48 | sjhill | we've fixed like 25 hardware bugs thus far |
| 00:58.54 | prpplague | yikes |
| 00:59.01 | sjhill | the other platform, i was supposed to start on device drivers 3 weeks ago |
| 00:59.19 | sjhill | the SDK for the proprietary hardware is still being battled over by the lawyers |
| 00:59.32 | sjhill | so, i'm essentially long pull on that project |
| 00:59.38 | sjhill | i just hate things right now |
| 00:59.41 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 01:00.14 | prpplague | hehe you've been very succesful in making my day look good, hehe |
| 01:00.28 | sjhill | glad to help :) |
| 01:01.09 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 04:31.47 | TimRiker | anyone else pick up a linux cell phone yet? /me pokes andersee |
| 04:32.25 | file[laptop] | TimRiker: I'm going for it |
| 04:33.54 | TimRiker | file[laptop]: sweet. which one? a780? e680i? I have the e680i |
| 04:34.02 | file[laptop] | A780 |
| 04:34.12 | TimRiker | $$? |
| 04:34.21 | file[laptop] | $260 |
| 04:34.51 | file[laptop] | with an extra battery, desktop charger, leather case, car charger, and all the regular stuff |
| 04:36.04 | TimRiker | the ebay one that's $50 shipping? |
| 04:36.26 | file[laptop] | they're all like that |
| 04:37.26 | file[laptop] | the e680i would be sucky around here... it's only triband |
| 04:38.40 | TimRiker | hmm. which band is missing? |
| 04:38.51 | file[laptop] | 850MHz |
| 04:38.58 | TimRiker | plus the 780 has a gps in it iirc. |
| 04:39.01 | file[laptop] | it's used heavily here, 1900MHz signal is very weak |
| 04:39.14 | file[laptop] | 1900 = 1/5 bars, 850 = 5/5 |
| 04:40.03 | file[laptop] | how does yours work? as they both use the same GUI... |
| 04:41.15 | TimRiker | I have my complaints, but I'm working on fixing them. ;-) |
| 04:41.28 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 04:41.39 | TimRiker | I want email on it, but the included email app does not do ssl. just plain text passwords. |
| 04:41.58 | file[laptop] | I don't dare use data service till I move to the US, too expensive here in Canada |
| 04:42.11 | TimRiker | even on imap. imap _forbids_ plain text passwords, but that's all the phone can do. |
| 04:42.42 | TimRiker | ah. well, mp3 playback is nice, though I've not used it for an extended period yet. |
| 04:43.00 | file[laptop] | I want to get it to sync to my workstation... for my calendar and address book |
| 04:43.03 | TimRiker | battery life has been great so far, though it was not for the first charge or two. |
| 04:43.21 | TimRiker | it supports syncml but I've not worked to get that working yet. |
| 04:43.22 | file[laptop] | it *pains* me to keep my cellphone and computer up to date |
| 04:43.36 | file[laptop] | http://www.troodon.org/a780/a780-linux-howto.htm I came across that :D so I know it's possible |
| 04:43.39 | TimRiker | the windows (gag) software will import a csv and convert it. I tried that once. |
| 04:45.29 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.56 | TimRiker | don't know if the same tools work with the a780 or not, but I expect there are tools that do. |
| 04:47.02 | TimRiker | heh. there's a small group in #openozx now, but the community seems a bit scattered. I'd be pleased to see more folks here take part. |
| 04:47.18 | TimRiker | er #openexz sorry. |
| 04:50.08 | file[laptop] | very cool |
| 05:00.33 | TimRiker | just gsm/gprs afaik |
| 05:00.44 | TimRiker | EDGE is CMDA, no? |
| 05:00.50 | TimRiker | er CDMA? |
| 05:01.17 | file[laptop] | EVDO is CDMA |
| 05:01.21 | MonMotha | TimRiker: I know that T-Mobile supports EDGE, and they use GSM |
| 05:01.26 | TimRiker | ah |
| 05:01.33 | file[laptop] | they made different versions of the A780, some have different things then other |
| 05:01.38 | MonMotha | I think Cingular (the other US GSM user) does as well |
| 05:01.47 | file[laptop] | want to see if this eBay seller has the EDGE version or not |
| 05:02.39 | TimRiker | if you can figure a way to tell them apart the folks in #openezx might be interested. They have a 2.6 kernel that boots on some devices and not on others and they don't know why. |
| 05:03.25 | file[laptop] | bad mojo probably |
| 05:05.17 | file[laptop] | yay email sent |
| 05:05.56 | file[laptop] | and now I sleep, goodnight |
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| 05:07.50 | ljp | more likely bad moto.. hehehehehe |
| 05:08.13 | kergoth | ~herring ljp |
| 05:08.14 | ibot | ACTION whacks ljp on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 05:08.24 | ljp | tim: I have a philips 968 |
| 05:08.45 | ljp | there is also a zte with linux |
| 05:10.50 | ljp | i probably shouldnt say that about moto, there's a moto guy in the office this week |
| 05:13.19 | TimRiker | file[laptop]: I wonder how the display size compares between the e680i and the a780 |
| 05:13.59 | file[laptop] | TLC has kept me up even longer... blast |
| 05:14.19 | file[laptop] | TimRiker: dunno... I like that fact that the touch screen isn't exposed directly |
| 05:14.23 | file[laptop] | unless you open it |
| 05:16.02 | TimRiker | ljp: hmm. no bluetooth or edge, but quad channel and swivel screen. |
| 05:16.08 | TimRiker | ljp: hackable? |
| 05:17.13 | TimRiker | file[laptop]: the e680 has a slide switch on the top that locks the touchscreen and other buttons. answer, volume and hang up work if there is an oncoming call. |
| 05:17.29 | TimRiker | s/oncoming/incoming/ |
| 05:18.44 | ljp | 968 is, but I can't tell anyone the magic key presses to put it in r & d mode ;( |
| 05:18.57 | file[laptop] | TimRiker: but it's still physically exposed |
| 05:19.16 | ljp | i think the zte is also |
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| 05:21.10 | ljp | the 968 also has sd card |
| 05:22.40 | ljp | there's another linux phone too, but I canoot remember what it is |
| 05:36.34 | TimRiker | ljp: so is there anyone hacking the 968 in the wild? |
| 05:37.12 | TimRiker | the motorola phone seem to already have quite a bit of hacking info scattered around. I've not seen that for the philips. |
| 05:38.28 | ljp | not that I have heard |
| 05:38.31 | TimRiker | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html |
| 05:38.53 | ljp | moto is probably your best bet. they seem to be ok at releasing sources |
| 05:40.04 | ljp | i have also been keeping track of the htc universal linux hackers |
| 05:40.12 | ljp | that has a keyboard |
| 05:40.16 | file[laptop] | once I get these emails back from this seller, I'll set my plan in motion... |
| 05:40.32 | ljp | but that doesnt come with linux |
| 05:42.59 | file[laptop] | quad band GSM cellphone, Italy SIM, US SIM, Canadian SIM |
| 05:43.44 | ljp | must be the WNC GW1 I am thinking of |
| 05:51.23 | TimRiker | some of the listed phones on linuxdevices never really shipped afaik. |
| 05:51.55 | TimRiker | in theory I can add a bluetooth keyboard to the moto phones. don't know if anyone has though. |
| 05:57.08 | ljp | lots of linux devices never shipped ;( |
| 05:57.51 | TimRiker | many of which I've worked on. :( |
| 05:57.59 | ljp | hmmm |
| 06:09.09 | ljp | oh well. better to have love and lost than not loved at all |
| 06:15.47 | fishhead | my friend just bought me a sockegt 754 motherboard and sempron 3100+ 64 bit cpu |
| 06:16.22 | fishhead | he lives in another country and losing his job soon |
| 06:17.39 | fishhead | so the reason I mention this |
| 06:17.42 | fishhead | he's a EE |
| 06:17.55 | fishhead | he works on semiconductor packaging engineering |
| 06:18.04 | fishhead | figuring out why stuff burned out, overheated etc |
| 06:18.28 | fishhead | he's in hk, origionally from philipines but he worked for TI 20 yrs ago, his wife and kid live in us |
| 06:18.46 | fishhead | if *ANY* of you work for a company that needs someone like this and is willing to sponsor a visa |
| 06:18.47 | fishhead | please |
| 06:18.58 | fishhead | forget you hate my guts and want to murder my kids |
| 06:18.59 | ohsix | -> http://www.blogger.com/signup.g |
| 06:19.08 | fishhead | for now and let me know |
| 06:19.31 | fishhead | I have known him for yrs he's legit, but the hk company he works for is moving to china |
| 06:19.43 | fishhead | dipshits don't realize what they are losing |
| 06:21.21 | fishhead | please :( |
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| 10:14.19 | fishhead | http://cgi.ebay.com/Onset-Model-8-SBC-computer-processor-C-and-Basic_W0QQitemZ7610891176QQcategoryZ4660QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
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| 11:10.28 | tripod777 | mmcblk0:<7>MMC: starting cmd 07 arg c3ad0000 flags 00000009 |
| 11:10.28 | tripod777 | unknown partition table |
| 11:10.47 | tripod777 | what cud be wrong? |
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| 11:19.59 | tripod777 | anyone has worked on sd cards here |
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| 13:14.16 | prpplague | mallum: greetings |
| 13:14.32 | prpplague | mallum: hope you weren't too bummed out over the latest 770 reviews |
| 13:15.17 | mallum | my wrists are dripping with blood as we speak |
| 13:16.08 | ade|desk | what 770 news did i miss ? |
| 13:16.13 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:16.22 | prpplague | ade|desk: crappy review from NYT |
| 13:16.31 | ade|desk | oh really |
| 13:16.35 | mallum | washington post wasn't it ? |
| 13:17.28 | prpplague | mallum: uh yea, i think you are right |
| 13:18.07 | prpplague | http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/04/17/1221247.shtml |
| 13:19.41 | mallum | ooh I didn't realise it had made /. |
| 13:19.49 | mallum | I am glad no one is complaining about the wm |
| 13:19.51 | mallum | ;) |
| 13:22.35 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:29.36 | mallum | prpplague: alot of the posts on /. are quite +ive though ( for /. ) |
| 13:32.55 | prpplague | mallum: yea, i didn't like the review, i think the guy missed the whole idea of the device |
| 13:32.58 | prpplague | imho |
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| 13:41.26 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:41.39 | prpplague | lo |
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| 13:43.17 | Genesis | prpplague, : what the name of the embedded stick store ? |
| 13:43.20 | Genesis | plz |
| 13:47.40 | Genesis | gumstick somthing like that |
| 13:53.23 | prpplague | Genesis: gumstix |
| 13:53.32 | prpplague | Genesis: but i don't recommend them myself |
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| 13:58.19 | Genesis | oki prpp |
| 13:58.34 | Genesis | it's not cheap but i would just see the comsumption to have an idea |
| 13:58.37 | prpplague | Genesis: what kind of project are you looking at? |
| 13:59.36 | Genesis | just look for fun , a supercap project with a small lamp |
| 14:01.28 | Genesis | http://stores.befr.ebay.be/euroled4u |
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| 15:24.14 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh - its good to be home |
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| 15:37.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
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| 15:49.10 | Genesis | bye |
| 15:54.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats the news? |
| 15:56.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: old news: i'm going complete insane |
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| 15:57.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: new news: found a giant hardware bug over the weekend |
| 15:57.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gonna set us back 2 weeks while a new rev is done |
| 15:57.15 | CosmicPenguin | Ohh.. cool - I love those |
| 15:57.21 | CosmicPenguin | Did it have little hinges for legs? |
| 15:58.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, no it was just two traces but very important traces |
| 15:58.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: put the board to sleep, it never wakes up |
| 15:59.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - I remember the first board I worked on personally, we got it back from fab, turned it on, and it caught on fire |
| 15:59.14 | prpplague | DOH |
| 15:59.17 | TimRiker | that's a power saving feature. |
| 15:59.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: had a tiny trace bridging ground and power |
| 15:59.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did someone say "WHAT DID YOOU DOOOOOOO?" |
| 16:00.23 | CosmicPenguin | anyway, the moral of my story is - traces can kill you |
| 16:00.43 | CosmicPenguin | You guys catch that less then flattering review of the 770 in the Washington Post? |
| 16:01.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, mentioned it to mallum earlier |
| 16:01.23 | CosmicPenguin | I was going to buy one, and I'm sorry to say the review made me think twice |
| 16:01.39 | CosmicPenguin | I played with one at the PM summit, and it seemed fine to me |
| 16:01.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, i'm still waiting on the lawyer to put the stamp on the enc28j60 driver |
| 16:02.50 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: now it it was a cell phone too, then .... |
| 16:03.41 | ade|desk | then it would be like a xda2 |
| 16:03.49 | ade|desk | i.e crap |
| 16:04.17 | ade|desk | speaking down a toilet is better |
| 16:05.10 | ade|desk | seperate devices mean you can talk on the phone while using the 770 |
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| 16:05.54 | ade|desk | i guess a bt phone set to voip is possible with n770 |
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| 16:09.16 | prpplague | anyone know a good channel for usb dev? |
| 16:30.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats your problem? |
| 16:31.36 | sjhill | "You're everyone's problem. That's because when you fly you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're unsafe." |
| 16:33.07 | CosmicPenguin | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=jordan_crouse_celf_2006.pdf |
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| 16:38.44 | CosmicPenguin | I talked about syslinux alot, and during the Q&A somebody asked me why I don't use extlinux |
| 16:38.51 | CosmicPenguin | turned out that somebody was HPA.. :) |
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| 16:51.30 | fromvega | Hello, How can I communicate with an external I2C bus? Can I use serial or what? Thanks |
| 16:52.59 | sjhill | fromvega: you need to improve your communications skills |
| 16:53.10 | fromvega | sjhill: ok |
| 16:53.10 | sjhill | fromvega: what hardware platform? what operatins system? what version of kernel? |
| 16:53.14 | fromvega | let's try again |
| 16:55.03 | fromvega | sjhill: I'm using Linux, the newest kernel version. I want to know how can I communicate to an external I2C bus, ie., not the motherboard bus. I would like to connect it to the PC serial port, but use I2C instead of RS-232. Despite voltage levels, can I do that only with software? Is there any driver for that? |
| 16:55.43 | CosmicPenguin | external I2C bus meaning exactly what? |
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| 16:56.28 | CosmicPenguin | greets andersee |
| 16:56.29 | sjhill | i think the word 'serial' is being overloaded |
| 16:56.32 | sjhill | hey andersee |
| 16:56.40 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I was in SLC yesterday - that was quite a snow storm |
| 16:57.04 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 16:57.08 | fromvega | CosmicPenguin: a bus that is not the motherboard I2C bus |
| 16:57.09 | sjhill | fromvega: you are wanting to communicate with a I2C device, the device being the serial port |
| 16:57.11 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yes indeed it was |
| 16:57.22 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: made wearing shorts a bit unpleasent |
| 16:57.33 | sjhill | heh |
| 16:57.33 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: but I managed somehow |
| 16:57.44 | fromvega | sjhill: yes, but if there is a better aproach I would prefer it. |
| 16:57.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so i take it you are pretty guarrantied for OLS? |
| 16:58.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, I'm there man |
| 16:58.10 | prpplague | lovely |
| 16:58.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm still wrangling |
| 16:58.21 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds like I might be there longer - we were talking about a pre-OLS meetup for the PM stuff |
| 16:58.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: trying to go |
| 16:58.28 | prpplague | oh yea? |
| 16:59.42 | sjhill | fromvega: why i2c for this and not a normal uart? |
| 17:00.11 | prpplague | fromvega: and why from a serial port? |
| 17:00.12 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: i'd like to be in on the PM stuff, if that's doable |
| 17:00.23 | sjhill | i have to be there on Monday anyway |
| 17:00.26 | prpplague | fromvega: parport is would be easier to work with |
| 17:00.35 | fromvega | sjhill: because I need to communicate with many devices using I2C. |
| 17:00.40 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: yeah, I'm sure that Patrick would be cool with that |
| 17:00.54 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: much appreciated |
| 17:01.10 | fromvega | prpplangue: yes, I can use parport, but how should I do that with I2C? And why parport and not serial port? |
| 17:01.29 | CosmicPenguin | Why I2C at all - its a limited protocol |
| 17:01.44 | prpplague | fromvega: because its easier to bit bang a partport |
| 17:02.09 | prpplague | fromvega: there are 1/2 a dozen drivers to do spi and i2c from a parport |
| 17:02.26 | fromvega | CosmicPenguin: because I want I2C. I just want to know how to make a software to implement this protocol. |
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| 17:03.16 | prpplague | fromvega: http://www.google.com/linux can provide you a good place to search for i2c and parallel port |
| 17:04.01 | fromvega | prpplague: the problem is that there is no parallel port on notebooks |
| 17:04.22 | prpplague | fromvega: well see, you didn't provide that information |
| 17:04.34 | prpplague | fromvega: got usb? |
| 17:04.49 | fromvega | prpplague: not for now.... |
| 17:05.03 | fromvega | prpplague: the linux kernel i2c drivers are for the motherboard i2c bus, right? |
| 17:05.10 | sjhill | yes |
| 17:05.13 | prpplague | fromvega: correct |
| 17:05.24 | prpplague | fromvega: well you are pretty limited them |
| 17:05.31 | prpplague | fromvega: if all you have is rs-232 |
| 17:06.34 | prpplague | fromvega: don't plan to build a house if you don't have a hammer and saw to use |
| 17:06.57 | CosmicPenguin | The kernel drivers don't stop you from making a bus that bitbangs pins on a db9 connector if you have the electrical connections to do it |
| 17:07.07 | CosmicPenguin | but if the pins are connected to a UART that you can't turn off, then you're really SOL |
| 17:07.51 | prpplague | http://www.taretronics.com/I2CtoRS232Adapter.html |
| 17:08.32 | prpplague | you can dl the schematic and firmware |
| 17:08.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how does that work? You send bytes to the uart and it converts them for you? |
| 17:09.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: pretty much the pic is just a mediator |
| 17:09.23 | CosmicPenguin | But you would have to have a protocol in place |
| 17:09.44 | CosmicPenguin | But I guess it could be pretty simple, just an address and then a byte string |
| 17:10.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea you would still need something on the rs-232 side to implemet what every you are working with |
| 17:10.22 | fromvega | prpplague: I was thinking about using a PIC to use RS-232 and make PIC talk with the I2C bus. But I'm concerned about response time. What do you think? |
| 17:10.32 | CosmicPenguin | It wouldn't be too difficult to do that with a linux driver |
| 17:11.03 | prpplague | fromvega: beggers can't be picky |
| 17:12.06 | fromvega | CosmicPenguin: do what? |
| 17:12.46 | CosmicPenguin | To talk to a uart attached to a PIC bridging to an I2C bus |
| 17:12.50 | CosmicPenguin | hell, you could even do it from userspace |
| 17:12.59 | CosmicPenguin | in fact, you would probably want to do it from user space |
| 17:15.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea no need to pester the uart driver |
| 17:16.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i once did a bash shell script that used devmem to a parport to print a tux in ascii chars |
| 17:16.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: was really bored |
| 17:19.29 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe just finished dl'n the new dr.who episode |
| 17:19.40 | prpplague | kergoth: converting it to vcd now |
| 17:21.52 | chouimat | ROFL "Mad Cow as nothing to do with an angry Oprah Winfrey ... for the effect on human see Ralph Klein" |
| 17:24.02 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:25.06 | chouimat | "1972 - First public toilet opens in Texas. Texans ignore this, and continue urinating in public." |
| 17:27.58 | fromvega | thank you all |
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| 18:40.24 | T`2 | anyone good with gcc command line options for cross compiling with custom glibc, and other libraries? |
| 18:41.34 | T`2 | i can compile a program, but it segfaults instantly.. can someone take a look at this please? |
| 18:41.55 | T`2 | http://pastebin.com/667731 |
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| 21:24.53 | T0mW | T`2: all I see in the pastebin is some compiler options? |
| 21:28.00 | T`2 | T0mW, np.. i fixed it :) |
| 21:28.10 | T0mW | k |
| 21:28.32 | T0mW | T`2: I've been out enjoying the nice weather and running errands today |
| 21:30.16 | T`2 | haha nice |
| 21:30.22 | T`2 | so it stopped snowing already in PA! |
| 21:31.29 | T0mW | T`2: yeah, put the sled dogs away for the summer |
| 21:32.40 | T`2 | haha |
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| 22:06.12 | TimRiker | hmm. I need an app to convert from and too windows 16 bit bmp images. thoughts? |
| 22:06.25 | TimRiker | make that to and from... ;-) |
| 22:06.55 | TimRiker | you'd think that netpbm, imagemagick, or gimp would do it, but none of them seems to. |
| 22:08.00 | T0mW | from what I've experienced, gimp doesn't do too well with 256 color bmp files. There is, I think, a couple of "standard" bmp formats. |
| 22:08.27 | TimRiker | I need 16 bit. not 8 bit. |
| 22:08.35 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/hellomoto.bmp is an example. |
| 22:08.36 | T0mW | TimRiker: like everything else with MicroSoft stuff, sometimes it works, sometimes you cannot find the info |
| 22:09.07 | TimRiker | the info seems to be available on m$ site, but I can't seem to find an existing app that will convert them. |
| 22:09.29 | TimRiker | mozilla will display them so there is likely a library around that will at least read them. |
| 22:12.02 | T0mW | I've had bad luck with bmp files too, I try to avoid them |
| 22:32.36 | T0mW | I hate this part of designing a board. I'm going to spend $160 to have the first prototype PCBs made. Now, I KNOW that something is wrong with this board, but I just cannot see it yet! |
| 22:33.13 | T0mW | No REV A board gets away without at least one cut + jumper! :( |
| 22:34.16 | file | so true |
| 22:34.43 | T0mW | the last rev A I did looked like a spider web |
| 22:41.03 | T0mW | sometimes you got to do what you got to do |
| 23:10.41 | MonMotha | TimRiker: can DevIL handle it? |
| 23:10.47 | MonMotha | aka OpenIL |
| 23:11.08 | MonMotha | and there are multiple "standards" for BMP files, I know OS/2 had its own ideas, especially wrt palleted files |
| 23:12.08 | MonMotha | and of course mozilla can display it. libpr0n can handle anything :) |
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| 23:37.20 | TimRiker | MonMotha: it's not palletized. just reduced bit depth. 565 |
| 23:42.48 | TimRiker | have to try again later. cya |
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