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| 14:23.45 | CosmicPenguin | Morning folks |
| 14:24.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 14:27.41 | sjhill | howdy howdy |
| 14:30.53 | prpplague | sjhill: whats cookin today? |
| 14:31.45 | sjhill | today's menu is a side of RHEL3 on compact PCI boards |
| 14:31.55 | sjhill | management koolaide to drink |
| 14:32.09 | sjhill | and the main course is Marvell switch chips with PPC sauce |
| 14:33.54 | prpplague | lovely |
| 14:34.09 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe the koolaide sounds good |
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| 14:36.20 | prpplague | brb |
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| 14:37.18 | sjhill | ? |
| 14:37.37 | CosmicPenguin | Thats 'sir' to you, solider! |
| 14:41.03 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, i have released the quilt tutorial and code, with README and LICENSE - http://shakthimaan.com/downloads.html |
| 14:51.44 | CosmicPenguin | You should still have the PDF somewhere |
| 14:51.45 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, I guess I could always download it and repost it on our twiki |
| 14:51.45 | CosmicPenguin | but I'm a lazy man |
| 14:51.46 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, ohh, i have put the source in .tex so you can build it and use .ps or .pdf or .html or any other format you want |
| 14:51.46 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:51.46 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, I'll can dig that |
| 14:51.46 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, you'll need Tetex package to be installed from your distro |
| 14:51.47 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, is it ok if i ask you - where do you work? |
| 14:51.47 | CosmicPenguin | I work for AMD |
| 14:51.48 | sjhill | "work" is a relative term for CosmicPenguin |
| 14:51.48 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, cool |
| 14:51.48 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: fair enough... I sit in a AMD building and drink their coffee |
| 14:51.48 | mbuf | haha |
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| 14:51.49 | CosmicPenguin | speaking of sitting around and drinking coffee |
| 14:51.49 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 14:51.50 | mbuf | prpplague, howdy! |
| 14:51.50 | prpplague | mbuf: greetings |
| 14:51.51 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:51.52 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: you left? |
| 14:51.52 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 14:51.52 | prpplague | usbnet seems to work ok other that i get alot of interrupts |
| 14:51.52 | prpplague | but the serial driver seems to have some issues |
| 14:51.52 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: yes last night after 6 beers and 2 bottles of wine |
| 14:51.58 | CosmicPenguin | I would have left too |
| 14:52.53 | chouimat | lol http://ca.askmen.com/jokes/2006_apr/apr10.html |
| 14:53.05 | mbuf | i have a 2.6.13.2-lc5 (lc - littlechips) patch for s3c2410 ARM, and is there any way i can find out from where they have obtained the ARM patch for this kernel version? Makefiles EXTRAVERSION only says .2 |
| 14:54.18 | CosmicPenguin | If they don't bother documenting their sources, then I think you are SOL |
| 14:54.22 | prpplague | mbuf: more than likely it is from the simtec patches as well as portions of the h1930/1940 patches |
| 14:54.33 | CosmicPenguin | You can try to match particular files against versions of the ARM patches, but.... |
| 14:55.16 | prpplague | mbuf: the patches for the littlechip board for 2.4 were from simtec and were included in sequencial patches on the cd |
| 14:58.10 | prpplague | mbuf: i'd be willing to bet the 2.6.13 kernel patch you are looking at is based on the h1940 patches |
| 14:58.22 | prpplague | mbuf: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH1940Downloads |
| 15:05.16 | mbuf | prpplague, thanks |
| 15:09.03 | prpplague | mbuf: no problem |
| 15:09.03 | CosmicPenguin | stupid ghostscript |
| 15:13.02 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: a couple of things |
| 15:13.12 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: first, my dvips wasn't creating an output file - I don't know why |
| 15:13.23 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, which distro ? |
| 15:13.23 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: I had to add a -o $(INPUT).ps to the command line |
| 15:13.27 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: gentoo |
| 15:13.36 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, i see |
| 15:13.41 | CosmicPenguin | secondly, the targets in your makefile should have dependancies |
| 15:13.52 | CosmicPenguin | so if you do make pdf, it will make the dvi first |
| 15:14.36 | CosmicPenguin | But, other then that, everything is working fine and happy |
| 15:14.58 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, intention is just to do a make; dvi i used for debugging |
| 15:15.06 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: but what about make pdf? |
| 15:15.37 | CosmicPenguin | you could just make all build pdf, and then make pdf depend on latex |
| 15:15.46 | CosmicPenguin | or just get rid of latex and pdf all together and put the targets under all |
| 15:15.48 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, actually latex creates the .dvi here for me in Debian Sarge 3.1r0a |
| 15:15.59 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, latex creates my .dvi too |
| 15:16.02 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, when i do latex |
| 15:16.10 | CosmicPenguin | but make clean; make pdf doesn't work, because the .dvi disappears |
| 15:16.18 | CosmicPenguin | You see what I'm gettingat? |
| 15:16.27 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, ohh ok |
| 15:16.31 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, :) |
| 15:22.10 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, is this better? http://pastebin.com/651517 |
| 15:23.30 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: good |
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| 15:23.47 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: add the -o $(INPUT).ps on the dvips too - just to be safe |
| 15:24.16 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, ohh ok |
| 15:25.21 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, in ps2pdf line ? |
| 15:25.34 | CosmicPenguin | no, the dvips |
| 15:29.06 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, ok uploaded, dinner time, will catch you folks later, thanks for your help CosmicPenguin, later folks |
| 15:34.10 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 15:50.00 | prpplague | gserial put_char: 0x0d |
| 15:50.00 | prpplague | gserial put_char: 0x0a |
| 15:50.00 | prpplague | gs_write_complete: unexpected status error, status=-75 |
| 15:50.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: getting a ton of those |
| 15:50.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like i timeout or buffer overflow :( |
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| 15:50.53 | mlehrer | MSFT |
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| 15:57.21 | prpplague | hmm, looks like a fifo overflow :( |
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| 16:17.50 | CosmicPenguin | Doh |
| 16:17.53 | CosmicPenguin | buffer overflow is bad |
| 16:18.03 | file | CosmicPenguin: but in another universe... it's good! |
| 16:18.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, the question is why |
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| 16:48.49 | CosmicPenguin | Obviously buffer overload would mean that something isn't keeping up |
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| 17:04.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, found it, wasn't properly checking if the packet had been sent |
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| 17:18.51 | prpplague | its always something Q@#$%@$#% |
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| 17:19.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: now it works fine for data xfer but doesn't want to be used as a controlling tty |
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| 17:51.21 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 17:51.28 | CosmicPenguin | some times, AMDs net policy makes me cry |
| 17:51.41 | file | whyfor? |
| 17:52.39 | CosmicPenguin | Because it is all ass backwards |
| 17:53.04 | file | examples?!? |
| 17:53.30 | CosmicPenguin | for example, I don't have any place to put my cool new utility I'm presenting tommorrow |
| 17:56.12 | CosmicPenguin | They won't even approve a sourceforge site |
| 18:08.41 | fishhead | prpplague |
| 18:08.43 | fishhead | kmart |
| 18:08.47 | fishhead | juicebox mp3 kit |
| 18:08.48 | fishhead | $10 |
| 18:08.57 | fishhead | plus 20% all toys in clearance = $8 |
| 18:13.08 | prpplague | fishhead: nice |
| 18:23.06 | fishhead | yeah very temping :) |
| 18:23.10 | fishhead | they have lik 15 sets |
| 18:23.17 | fishhead | but I am going to rid it out lower :P |
| 18:23.20 | fishhead | ride |
| 18:24.08 | prpplague | fishhead: hehe, the ebay merchants might not wait |
| 18:31.08 | fishhead | I don't care |
| 18:31.10 | fishhead | I am poor |
| 18:31.30 | fishhead | not even sure I am going to do anything with the jb's too small |
| 18:31.38 | fishhead | unless my idea for using a heatgun to swap the rom works |
| 18:32.07 | fishhead | hey the 2 meg verions |
| 18:32.13 | fishhead | is there any pads to solder the rom to |
| 18:32.16 | fishhead | if you cut off the cob |
| 18:36.00 | prpplague | fishhead: not a standard pad |
| 18:38.49 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:38.53 | prpplague | this is totally strange |
| 18:39.15 | prpplague | this driver complete bombs when you try to use it as a controlling tty |
| 18:55.06 | prpplague | mindfunk: whats cookin? |
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| 19:01.18 | mindfunk | prpplague: mexico.... :) |
| 19:03.38 | tsowell | mindfunk: ping |
| 19:07.09 | prpplague | mindfunk: fun |
| 19:13.22 | mindfunk | tsowell: pong |
| 19:13.50 | mindfunk | tsowell: do me a favor... get 3-4 ethernet cables from the lab dude for me |
| 19:13.57 | tsowell | okay |
| 19:14.01 | tsowell | want to eat ice cream? |
| 19:14.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fun fun fun, looks like its choking on the dup() call |
| 19:22.49 | tsowell | mindfunk: want to eat ice cream? |
| 19:25.59 | CosmicPenguin | dup is failing? |
| 19:25.59 | CosmicPenguin | ouch |
| 19:29.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, looks like the second open isn't being handled properly |
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| 19:31.49 | ao2 | hallo |
| 19:33.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i get the feeling that this driver wasn't tested very heavily |
| 19:33.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i guess everyone uses the usbnet driver |
| 19:35.29 | tsowell | mindfunk: ping |
| 19:36.07 | ao2 | hallo, does anyone here know the http://www.portelligent.com/ site? There are some reverse engineering reports of embedded devices. |
| 19:36.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea, looks like the code to do multiple opens was fudged |
| 19:36.32 | CosmicPenguin | what, in the kernel code? |
| 19:36.36 | CosmicPenguin | the syscall? |
| 19:38.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the drivers/usb/gadget/serial.c |
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| 19:38.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they were doing a check for the "already open" but didn't set the pointer |
| 19:39.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hence leaving a null pointer for the anything but the first open |
| 19:41.45 | CosmicPenguin | goo! |
| 19:43.22 | mindfunk | tsowell: I'm in mexico |
| 19:43.38 | mindfunk | tsowell: but, yeah, ice cream would be cool |
| 19:44.19 | CosmicPenguin | You're ircing from mexico? |
| 19:44.43 | fishhead | shame we can't make the juicebox read nor from the cart port |
| 19:44.44 | fishhead | :/ |
| 19:44.50 | fishhead | NOR |
| 19:46.02 | fishhead | I have piles of nor chips, yeah only 128-256 but I could load some code |
| 19:46.30 | fishhead | prpplague my idea was to turn this into a os |
| 19:46.43 | fishhead | well not really an os just enough of code to keep running |
| 19:46.44 | fishhead | http://palmorb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:46.47 | fishhead | port to the jb |
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| 19:48.04 | prpplague | fishhead: why? |
| 19:48.14 | prpplague | fishhead: nand is just as good for external applications |
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| 19:48.57 | fishhead | external yes |
| 19:49.19 | fishhead | but you got to wire up that port etc seems like too much of a pain in the ass |
| 19:49.29 | fishhead | while if we just did it with nor we could replace the onboard rom |
| 19:49.40 | fishhead | if the jb was just going to be used as a lcd display |
| 19:49.43 | fishhead | not as a mini-computer |
| 19:49.48 | prpplague | fishhead: uh nand takes less wires than nor |
| 19:50.16 | prpplague | fishhead: you are doing far less with the nand chip than with the nor |
| 19:50.31 | fishhead | yeah dude but by the time I buy a smartmedia card, adaptor, etc doesn't see work it |
| 19:50.50 | prpplague | fishhead: ??? |
| 19:50.54 | fishhead | I could probably fit palmORB code in a small nor chip and just solder swap the onboard rom |
| 19:51.18 | fishhead | nm I can't explain what I am trying to do here |
| 19:51.19 | prpplague | fishhead: you make no sense something, hehe |
| 19:51.30 | fishhead | dude you remeber how you replaced the onboard rom |
| 19:51.32 | fishhead | first thing you did |
| 19:51.47 | fishhead | when you first got a jb |
| 19:51.57 | prpplague | s/replaces/replaced |
| 19:51.59 | fishhead | you did on the JB |
| 19:52.05 | fishhead | I remeber you talking about it |
| 19:52.22 | fishhead | and remebe ryou guys were trying to find cheap tsop sockets |
| 19:52.25 | fishhead | as a result |
| 19:52.30 | fishhead | dude I will find the linux bbs entry |
| 19:52.31 | fishhead | hang on |
| 19:52.32 | prpplague | fishhead: it wasn't me |
| 19:52.38 | fishhead | ok lemme recheck |
| 19:52.45 | fishhead | mabye I got another ecc errorin my brain |
| 19:53.01 | prpplague | fishhead: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=DRV10792 |
| 19:53.16 | prpplague | fishhead: look you can get a sm adapter and some sm cards there cheap |
| 19:53.31 | fishhead | will that adaptor do raw flash access though |
| 19:53.40 | fishhead | so we can code it the way the jb rom looks for |
| 19:54.26 | prpplague | fishhead: the adapter is just for the socket |
| 19:54.30 | fishhead | oh ok |
| 19:54.40 | fishhead | don't we need a way to program the card |
| 19:54.40 | prpplague | fishhead: don't even really need that |
| 19:54.49 | prpplague | fishhead: you can solder directly to the sm pads |
| 19:54.57 | fishhead | yes I know that |
| 19:55.09 | fishhead | why I totally threw out the idea of ever using XD |
| 19:55.11 | fishhead | too damn small |
| 19:55.35 | fishhead | plus my neurological problems have gotten a bit worse as has my eyesight |
| 19:55.42 | fishhead | so I might be finished before I start anyways :/ |
| 19:55.46 | fishhead | shaking in my hands is worse |
| 19:56.08 | fishhead | I guess my main reason for wanting to use nor was I Have a supply right now |
| 19:56.12 | fishhead | I am familiar with it |
| 19:56.25 | fishhead | and I have ways using a old motherboard bios socket or ethernet card with boot rom socket to program it |
| 19:56.56 | fishhead | and just hack off the existing rom on the jb and put it in it's place |
| 19:57.05 | fishhead | for a limited use as just a graphical lcd |
| 19:57.06 | fishhead | nothing else |
| 19:57.52 | fishhead | brb swapping pc's |
| 19:57.58 | prpplague | fishhead: then don't worry about chopping of the CoB, just cut the chip select, and solder the reset |
| 19:58.46 | fishhead | yeah once the jb's at kmart get down to $5 I might get a cheap 2 meg unit and try |
| 19:58.53 | fishhead | I hate to waste one of these 8 meg units |
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| 19:59.16 | fishhead | oh btw after 6 months living here |
| 19:59.25 | fishhead | I finally found the source of the family hoarding gene |
| 19:59.34 | fishhead | the tendency to worry about losing 5 cent chips etc :P |
| 19:59.38 | fishhead | GRANDMA! |
| 20:02.16 | fishhead | btw I got like 5+ hrs off a old 12 volt 7ah sla powering a 486-100 8 meg ram laptop motherboard, with just a floppy, 640x480 stn lcd and running memtest86+ :) |
| 20:02.26 | fishhead | going to be nice for a simple embedded project |
| 20:03.04 | fishhead | is it true if you put a diode in series with the battery then the laptop can tap power but if you hooked up the laptop to ac it prevents it from trying to charge the battery? |
| 20:04.44 | prpplague | thank the USB gods!!! its working |
| 20:05.44 | fishhead | congrats |
| 20:10.08 | CosmicPenguin | or tequila |
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| 20:10.14 | mindfunk | ewe |
| 20:10.17 | fishhead | stop torturing me |
| 20:10.19 | mlehrer | find a meth lab nearby |
| 20:10.19 | fishhead | :( |
| 20:10.29 | fishhead | you are cruel |
| 20:11.12 | mindfunk | to, tequilla is nasty and vile |
| 20:11.20 | mindfunk | s/to/so |
| 20:11.24 | CosmicPenguin | BUt when in Rome.... |
| 20:11.34 | file | CosmicPenguin: bomb it? |
| 20:11.47 | CosmicPenguin | file: not exactly the words I was searching for |
| 20:11.54 | fishhead | actually I can get away with a small amount like in a frappicino |
| 20:11.55 | file | bah |
| 20:12.01 | fishhead | but that's about it and not every day |
| 20:12.12 | fishhead | else I end up face down on the floor with nausea and cold sweating |
| 20:12.26 | fishhead | italy? what for |
| 20:12.46 | file | core developer conference for Asterisk |
| 20:13.43 | fishhead | neat |
| 20:16.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: now the evil evil evil part |
| 20:16.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i have to test with winblows |
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| 20:20.12 | CosmicPenguin | good luck with all of that |
| 20:23.09 | file | speak of the devil |
| 20:23.12 | file | my plane tickets just came |
| 20:24.42 | tsowell | mindfunk: ping |
| 20:31.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe a big zero, didn't even recognize it hehe |
| 20:34.40 | fishhead | http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT051401003409 |
| 20:34.42 | fishhead | MOTHER OF CANUCK |
| 20:34.48 | fishhead | I misread that a few yrs ago |
| 20:35.02 | fishhead | so there is an issue with sb live and a hybrid of amd 760 northbridge and via southbridge |
| 20:35.28 | fishhead | my poor pastor has bought 2 copies of xp (2nd one with sp2) and 3 hard drives tryign to result why it keeps getting corrutped |
| 20:36.20 | fishhead | might have finally bit this gremlin in the ... |
| 20:40.55 | CosmicPenguin | Later boys - I'll irc in from Califnoria |
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| 20:56.46 | mindfunk | tsowell: what? |
| 21:13.59 | tsowell | mindfunk: wouldn't you like to know? |
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