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| 00:28.32 | cougarvt | joe_bleau: i just successfully ran the lcd_2 demo after recompiling it. thanks for laying the groundwork |
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| 19:10.40 | prpplague | file: i can now see tux on my lcd |
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| 23:21.29 | sherbang | sure Tom, the linux stuff? I can try to help. |
| 23:21.49 | T0mW | I've got a new installation up and a failure: |
| 23:21.59 | T0mW | md6 : active raid1 hda11[0] hdb11[2](F) |
| 23:22.00 | T0mW | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.09 | T0mW | that's from /proc/mdstat |
| 23:22.32 | T0mW | from what I see: hdb is failing on the 11th partition (/dev/hdb11) ? |
| 23:24.05 | T0mW | can I take another drive, partition it with the same partition sizes as the first and replace the bad drive? |
| 23:24.38 | T0mW | then run mdmadm to add the new partitions to the mirror list? |
| 23:25.00 | sherbang | umm, I'm not familiar with the mdstat output. do mdadm -D /dev/md6 |
| 23:25.05 | sherbang | that's easier to understand. |
| 23:25.07 | T0mW | k |
| 23:25.16 | sherbang | yeah. |
| 23:25.43 | sherbang | same partitions, then just add the partitions to the different raids |
| 23:26.39 | T0mW | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.52 | T0mW | good thing I check the system. |
| 23:27.00 | sherbang | there ya go.. |
| 23:28.11 | sherbang | if it's not actually a hardware failure then you can do "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/hdb11" and then re-add hdb11, but obviously the safe thing to do is swap the drive. |
| 23:28.12 | T0mW | sherbang: I was tinkering with mdadm before I built the "real" system and I did do that. Pulled a drive from a system with a single md volume and put a raw drive in. After I did the mdadm --add, it went through resync-ing. |
| 23:28.17 | sherbang | mdadm can also be setup to email you on a failure. |
| 23:28.25 | T0mW | but I was not sure this was the "proper" way to do things. |
| 23:28.47 | T0mW | sherbang: yeah, I've several spares for that machine |
| 23:28.49 | sherbang | it is as far as I can tell. |
| 23:29.09 | T0mW | maybe I should go to RAID 5 on that box instead of RAID 1 |
| 23:30.46 | T0mW | at least the software raid has an indication of the mirror volumes' health |
| 23:31.18 | T0mW | we were using a (IIRC) promise "hardware" raid, and that had no indication of the /dev/md health |
| 23:31.45 | sherbang | yeah, you find out when all your drives are dead. ugh.. |
| 23:32.02 | T0mW | btdt, we had it only show a failure on reboot |
| 23:32.42 | T0mW | the power supply finally went in the old server so I decided to bite the bullet and rebuild it completely, fun, fun. |
| 23:32.59 | sherbang | I just purchased an IBM sata raid card. 6-ports real hardware raid. nice unit. I think it was $150, but that's the way to go on a real critical system. |
| 23:33.02 | T0mW | still not 100% back to where I was before |
| 23:33.28 | T0mW | sherbang: I cannot seem to get the through put that they claim for SATA |
| 23:33.59 | sherbang | to be honest, I really haven't checked. |
| 23:34.13 | T0mW | it is supposed to be ATA-150 and all I get from the hdparm is an indication that it is running at UDMA-66 / 100 |
| 23:34.29 | T0mW | that is without mirrors and such |
| 23:34.39 | T0mW | just the raw setup |
| 23:35.03 | T0mW | it may be the new unified kernel driver: SATA + PATA |
| 23:35.34 | T0mW | sherbang: ok, thanks, I'll have to take a drive up there to the site tomorrow and do the deal |
| 23:35.59 | sherbang | no problem |
| 23:36.29 | T0mW | fortunately, I've the old raid drives sitting there unused, so, if the system loses that volume then we only lost a few days. |
| 23:36.46 | T0mW | backup is a bitch, we need an offsite rsync mirror |
| 23:37.00 | T0mW | over the VPN pipe |
| 23:39.57 | sherbang | ahh..fun |
| 23:41.01 | T0mW | well, the server "evolved" from something small to something that they just throw sh!t on when they don't take the time to backup to media. There's 47G of stuff on that box. |
| 23:41.40 | T0mW | I keep telling them to get rid of the temp dirs, but they don't even know what is in some of the subdirs. Typical windows shop |
| 23:41.55 | sherbang | so why don't you get a tape drive for it? |
| 23:42.53 | T0mW | Well, we have tape, it is complicated. The deal is that you need to be disciplined about doing tape backup. The owner is stretched thin |
| 23:43.06 | T0mW | you know the deal. |
| 23:44.06 | T0mW | I think that what I'll do is move some stuff onto another volume, critical business stuff. Then setup an offsite mirror to run overnite to backup the really critical stuff, the stuff that would put him out of business if he lost it. |
| 23:44.44 | T0mW | heh, my imap folder is one "critical" peice of data! |
| 23:44.50 | sherbang | :) |
| 23:45.16 | T0mW | nice thing is that he lets me play with his computer stuff and pays for the hardware |
| 23:45.39 | T0mW | so, the computers are "mine", he only buys them |
| 23:45.56 | sherbang | good arrangement |
| 23:46.34 | T0mW | interesting thing is that he came to me about three years ago and told me that he wanted to replace win98 in his stores with linux. Then told me to figure out how to do it. |
| 23:46.47 | sherbang | I work for a small company. Only 1 site so I'm always there to deal with things like backups. |
| 23:46.54 | T0mW | ah |
| 23:47.14 | sherbang | excellent. |
| 23:47.16 | T0mW | I thought of doing the backup over the net, something like a tape buffer. |
| 23:47.25 | T0mW | I've DAT3 here |
| 23:48.10 | T0mW | he just put in new POS terminals at the three stores and they all run linux |
| 23:48.28 | T0mW | the only place we have windows now is in the office |
| 23:48.52 | T0mW | that won't change, I cannot see PeachTree bringing out a linux package |
| 23:49.11 | T0mW | nor Lotus, and he has a large investment into Lotus macros |
| 23:49.45 | T0mW | I'm going to try that resync of the superblock |
| 23:50.37 | sherbang | Wine? :) |
| 23:51.32 | T0mW | wine sux |
| 23:51.54 | T0mW | the only thing I've ever gotten wine to run properly is notepad |
| 23:52.34 | sherbang | I've run some games, haven't run any real apps. |
| 23:54.37 | T0mW | that little thrill of fear when I ran: mdadm -a /dev/md6 /dev/hdb11 |
| 23:54.59 | sherbang | :) absolutely |
| 23:55.11 | T0mW | fear is a good thing |
| 23:55.18 | T0mW | keeps you honest |
| 23:55.53 | T0mW | it is resyncing now, should take an hour or two to finish. |
| 23:56.12 | T0mW | well, it claims 30 minutes |
| 23:56.41 | T0mW | sherbang: time enough to slip out to the cigar shop and get a new box! |
| 23:56.59 | sherbang | there ya go.. |
| 23:57.06 | T0mW | thanks again! cul |