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02:52.50 | kergoth | meh |
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05:53.32 | Russ | meh? |
05:56.20 | cdm | ?hem |
05:56.57 | Russ | hem hem |
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06:16.03 | Russ | kergoth: you finding a place to rent? |
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06:19.04 | cdm | ker - you move? |
06:30.32 | kergoth | Russ: looks like i'll be in the extended stay for another 2 weeks. most of hte decent apartment complexes i've found online dont have anything available until march. found a couple nice condos, but the first month's rent + deposit is too much to afford on just one paycheck, especially with a car paymetn coming out of it |
06:30.37 | kergoth | heh |
06:30.45 | kergoth | cdm: yep, down in the phoenix area now |
06:40.53 | Russ|iPAQ | hmmm... |
06:41.42 | Russ|iPAQ | have you just checked south scottsdale and tempe? |
06:43.32 | kergoth | yep |
06:43.47 | cdm | kergoth - sweet. Who you working for? |
06:43.56 | cdm | I like phoenix |
06:44.16 | kergoth | working on land warrior (google it) |
06:44.43 | kergoth | i like it here so far. will see how much i like it once summer hits though :) |
06:45.35 | cdm | game huh? |
06:46.21 | kergoth | wrong land warrior |
06:47.59 | cdm | military stuff huh? |
06:48.07 | kergoth | yep |
06:48.09 | cdm | you guys using linux or something else? |
06:48.26 | Russ|iPAQ | you might try expanding your search a little |
06:48.40 | Russ|iPAQ | linux and qt |
06:48.46 | cdm | okay - there are enough people here... |
06:48.48 | cdm | make question |
06:49.01 | cdm | I am trying to get a build to run under Linux that works perfectly under cygwin. |
06:49.25 | cdm | but it's taking a shit on what looks like a busted regex expression that turns into a make target that shouldn't be around. |
06:49.36 | cdm | I have tried "make -d" to get it to show stuff. |
06:49.50 | cdm | but I can't figure out how to figure out where it is getting that target from.... |
06:50.16 | cdm | any ideas? |
06:50.27 | cdm | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `sRrI'. Stop. |
06:51.17 | kergoth | heh, make -d is rarely of much use. either it doesnt have what you want, or it does, but its buried in so much information that you'll never find it |
06:52.11 | cdm | yeah - i can't find it at all. |
06:52.25 | cdm | thankfully both builds (the one that works, the one that doesn't) are using the same version of GNU make. |
06:52.31 | cdm | and the same tools (ARM's) |
06:52.40 | cdm | but man, I can't figure out where this bogus target it coming from. |
06:53.06 | cdm | the make -d logs are exactly the same except when one gets the rule for 'all' and works while the other one gets this bogus rule. |
06:53.52 | kergoth | odd |
06:53.58 | kergoth | hard to say without having it in front of me, you know |
06:54.12 | cdm | of course |
06:54.25 | cdm | just looking for general tips. This isn't my build system, and it's horrible |
06:54.29 | cdm | and I can't change it. ;) |
06:55.57 | kergoth | i dunno, rogue targets arent fun. $(warning...) can be your friend, ala the usual printk/printf debugging |
06:56.00 | kergoth | hehe |
06:56.57 | cdm | interesting. |
06:57.06 | cdm | what are the rules for using $(warning ...)? |
06:58.21 | kergoth | its just like an echo, but from make, so you can dump the current contents of variables and such. i usually put it on a line by itself after assigning something to a variable to confirm its value is what i expect it to be |
06:58.29 | kergoth | $(warning FOO is $(FOO)) |
06:58.37 | cdm | nice |
07:12.54 | cdm | found it |
07:13.01 | cdm | that is a great thing |
07:14.19 | cdm | just gotta figure out how to fix it. ;) |
07:20.43 | kergoth | hehe |
07:25.58 | cdm | fuck |
07:26.08 | kergoth | no luck? |
07:32.52 | cdm | well - it's screwy |
07:33.02 | cdm | looks like it is an issue with the passing/inheritence of MAKEFLAGS |
07:37.05 | cdm | gotta pass in MAKEFLAGS on the command line |
07:37.10 | cdm | freaking wierd |
07:37.23 | cdm | make MAKEFLAGS="$MAKEFLAGS" target |
07:38.21 | kergoth | are you calling 'make' instead of $(MAKE)? if so, try the latter |
07:49.21 | cdm | $(MAKE) |
07:53.27 | cdm | and I had go thru and add $(MAKE) MAKEFLAGS="$(MAKEFLAGS)" |
07:55.08 | cdm | I wonder if it is some whacky ubuntu thing |
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08:09.39 | kergoth | that doesnt make any sense. MAKEFLAGS is always supposed to be propogated into submakes |
08:09.42 | kergoth | weird |
08:16.32 | cdm | okay |
08:16.48 | cdm | check this |
08:17.31 | cdm | http://pastebin.com/535027 |
08:19.40 | cdm | hurm... |
08:21.28 | cdm | interesting |
08:21.35 | cdm | those are the options, but in reduced form |
08:22.58 | cdm | but it has dropped the -I |
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08:25.59 | cdm | any ideas? |
08:31.12 | kergoth | not offhand, havent seen that one before |
08:31.54 | cdm | interesting |
08:32.00 | cdm | on cygwin the options turn into... |
08:32.08 | cdm | --unix -sRr |
08:32.13 | cdm | on Ubuntu |
08:32.16 | cdm | sRr |
08:32.17 | cdm | no - |
08:32.30 | cdm | and I am noticing people pass in the flags as... |
08:32.35 | cdm | $(MAKE) -$(MAKEFLAGS) |
08:32.40 | cdm | in my google searches |
08:34.47 | cdm | and --unix is a cygwin thing |
08:34.50 | cdm | fuck |
08:40.46 | cdm | yep |
08:40.58 | cdm | so it's just a difference between linux and cygwin |
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11:47.56 | T0mW | ~logs |
11:47.58 | ibot | it has been said that logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23elinux/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/elinux.html.gz |
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13:25.51 | chouimat | morning |
13:27.40 | prpplague | chouimat: hey hey |
13:28.08 | prpplague | chouimat: <nag> don't suppose you had a chance to test that dtelnet under mingw? </nag> |
13:28.49 | chouimat | prpplague: no ... was studying for this afternoon exam ... |
13:29.25 | prpplague | chouimat: exam? how can you study for a prostrate exam? |
13:30.26 | chouimat | prpplague: I took a german course at university |
13:32.50 | chouimat | prpplague: ROFL www.dilbert.com |
13:42.43 | chouimat | ROFL http://www.askmen.com/jokes/current/index.html |
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15:12.25 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin |
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16:19.39 | kergoth | mehh |
16:19.41 | kergoth | ~mornings |
16:19.43 | ibot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
16:21.10 | file | very true |
16:26.29 | kergoth | lcov, is that code coverage stuff? |
16:26.33 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
16:26.34 | CosmicPenguin | for the kernel |
16:26.38 | kergoth | ah |
16:26.41 | CosmicPenguin | Its really sweet looking stuff |
16:26.46 | CosmicPenguin | Good eye candy |
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16:29.34 | CosmicPenguin | Its old though - not sure the last time anybody bothered updating it |
16:30.24 | file | so, linuxworld eh? |
16:32.46 | CosmicPenguin | You're funny |
16:32.54 | file | very. |
16:34.55 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you should checkout pandora.com |
16:34.58 | CosmicPenguin | you would dig it |
16:52.00 | kergoth | i've heard good things. i usually use last.fm/audioscrobbler myself |
16:52.10 | kergoth | http://last.fm/users/kergoth/ or os |
16:52.37 | CosmicPenguin | In a "discover new music" mode these days |
16:53.03 | kergoth | i'm almost always in that mode. it saddens me that my fileserver is in minnesota |
16:53.17 | kergoth | practically suffering from withdrawls due to lack of music and movies |
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17:15.32 | file | hail Tim |
17:15.53 | kergoth | hey TimRiker, ljp |
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17:37.06 | ljp | hey kergoth. how goes it? |
17:38.58 | kergoth | pretty good, got a new job out in the phoenix area. qt coding, actually |
17:39.02 | kergoth | you? |
17:41.59 | ljp | doing good. |
17:42.08 | ljp | you got a job coding qt. |
17:42.13 | ljp | thats cool :) |
17:42.35 | ljp | hopefully you are using qt 4 |
17:44.28 | kergoth | mostly 3, though theres some 4 on a related project |
17:44.39 | kergoth | 4 is nifty. i still need to get used to the whole MVC pattern thing |
17:45.58 | ljp | you and a lot of other qt developers :) |
17:46.09 | kergoth | hehe |
17:46.20 | kergoth | seems like a Good Thing(tm) though |
17:47.43 | file | kergoth: have you done the QT4 dance? |
17:47.58 | ljp | ha |
17:48.12 | file | what? it's a perfectly good question! :P |
17:48.49 | ljp | whats funny is the torrent for the qt4 dance video got more hits than the source code |
17:48.58 | kergoth | hah |
17:49.06 | kergoth | ljp: how are things at tt? |
17:49.12 | ljp | good |
17:49.29 | ljp | working on qtopia 4 stuff for 3gsm thing |
17:49.44 | kergoth | ah, cool |
17:49.52 | ljp | we are still expanding like crzy here. |
17:50.07 | ljp | moving to a new office location this year sometime. |
17:50.13 | kergoth | i need to pick up Design Patterns, work on the c++ skill a bit more |
17:50.13 | kergoth | nice |
17:50.43 | ljp | ya, except my current deskspace is the best view in the office |
17:51.06 | ljp | corner office with windows on both sides |
17:51.24 | kergoth | i hate you |
17:51.29 | ljp | :) |
17:51.46 | ljp | i have had to fight to stay put |
17:52.34 | ljp | hm.. and my kid is 5 months old now :) |
17:52.55 | kergoth | wow, hows that going for you? |
17:54.33 | ljp | really good! |
17:54.51 | ljp | excpet i have no money now |
17:55.01 | file | blargh |
17:55.11 | ljp | except, that is |
18:04.21 | kergoth | Russ: guess your analysis of the situation was correct eh :) |
18:05.51 | kergoth | meh, i hate making api changes and having to :wn through like 60 vim buffers fixing all the calls to it |
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18:55.45 | CosmicPenguin | wow - its been a long time since I've hacked on a makefile |
18:55.46 | CosmicPenguin | how sad |
18:55.57 | T0mW | heh |
18:56.22 | T0mW | make is an interesting thing, sometimes it is a belligerent God |
18:56.57 | CosmicPenguin | amen |
19:22.40 | CosmicPenguin | or rather, gcov-kernel |
19:22.58 | CosmicPenguin | next up lcov - see if I can't get rid of this pesky perl requirement |
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22:45.39 | kergoth | thank god, my first paycheck arrived at the hotel today |
22:45.50 | CosmicPenguin | money is good, mkay? |
22:45.56 | kergoth | indeed |
22:46.14 | ljp | money is evil also |
22:46.54 | Crofton | party! |
22:46.58 | CosmicPenguin | When you don't have it, its good, when you ahve too much of it, its bad |
22:47.04 | ljp | 3gsm is evil too |
22:49.06 | kergoth | local moneys = self.money() if moneys < 0 then return "bad" else if moneys >= 0 then return "good, mmk" end |
22:49.14 | kergoth | or some such |
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23:13.15 | Crofton | do you have any left over after bills? |
23:14.33 | kergoth | yep, only bills are cell phone and the car, and of course more money for the next week at the hotel |
23:14.37 | kergoth | heh |
23:14.41 | Crofton | cool |
23:14.56 | kergoth | $260 a week in a teeny hotel room is lame, i need a condo or something |
23:14.58 | kergoth | :) |
23:15.01 | Crofton | the hotel guys like to stay current |
23:15.06 | kergoth | yeap |