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| 01:20.03 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 01:35.45 | sorphin | chouimat: evening mat |
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| 11:57.33 | vittorio | hi, anyone knows distributions which support RTAI? so far i have found SysGo ELinOS and Koan K-Linux |
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| 13:44.11 | prpplague | ~mondays |
| 13:44.13 | ibot | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
| 13:44.18 | prpplague | yikes |
| 13:44.35 | prpplague | you could get killed for saying something like that |
| 13:49.26 | jbevren | re prpplague |
| 13:50.09 | prpplague | jbevren: morning |
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| 14:08.30 | prpplague | ~lart CosmicPenguin |
| 14:09.01 | sorphin | ~lart prpplague just because it's monday |
| 14:10.51 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:11.34 | CosmicPenguin | ol ibot isn't so good at the natural language procesing |
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| 14:19.20 | Genesis | bonjour |
| 14:20.34 | CosmicPenguin | guten tag |
| 14:20.50 | CosmicPenguin | ^ 4 classes, and I can speak two words of german |
| 14:23.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: guten morgen |
| 14:23.34 | Genesis | CosmicPenguin : 6 and i can't tell more :) |
| 14:23.50 | Genesis | bitte schon CosmicPenguin :p) |
| 14:24.09 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: wie gehen Sie heute? |
| 14:24.10 | sorphin | hehe |
| 14:25.42 | CosmicPenguin | danke gut |
| 14:25.56 | CosmicPenguin | un dir? |
| 14:28.58 | sorphin | und dir :) und ich habe einen crappy Tag bereits. |
| 14:29.04 | sorphin | anyways |
| 14:29.36 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, yeay |
| 14:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | I can't type in english, why would it be different for any other language? |
| 14:30.05 | sorphin | :) |
| 14:32.07 | sorphin | jbevren: well, now i see if FedEx does the right thing despite the memos on the tracking :P |
| 14:36.08 | prpplague | sorphin: what are you bablying about? |
| 14:37.00 | CosmicPenguin | touche |
| 14:42.02 | sorphin | prpplague: my electrical backpanel for my traffic gear :P |
| 14:42.37 | sorphin | sorry, next time i'll just /msg :P |
| 14:42.39 | sorphin | sheesh |
| 14:47.40 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:48.38 | jbevren | sorphin is collecting traffic lights |
| 14:48.38 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:49.10 | CosmicPenguin | Its all part of his plan to start his own country |
| 14:49.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:49.55 | sorphin | not quite |
| 14:50.31 | CosmicPenguin | He might not have a military or a government or anything |
| 14:50.37 | CosmicPenguin | but his traffic will be very organized |
| 14:50.40 | sorphin | nah, today, i'd just be happy if someone would put me outta my misery, i would say today can't get any worse, but i'm sure it would just to spite me |
| 14:53.00 | CosmicPenguin | So, if I wanted to semi-accurately emulate a temp sensor on a mobo, could I set up an event and randomly add or subtract a few degrees every half second or so |
| 14:53.13 | CosmicPenguin | Or would that result in very stupid results? |
| 14:53.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: sadly, i understood you |
| 14:54.04 | sorphin | and that would work |
| 14:54.15 | sorphin | tho |
| 14:54.21 | CosmicPenguin | I figure over time it won't drift that much |
| 14:54.24 | sorphin | all the ones i've seen dont' fluctuate that much |
| 14:54.31 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, I know |
| 14:54.31 | sorphin | the fans are what jump |
| 14:54.41 | sorphin | nod |
| 14:54.53 | CosmicPenguin | but this is a fake sensor, so if it doesn't move, then people won't think its working... :) |
| 14:55.33 | CosmicPenguin | I thought about actually connecting it to the sensor on my server, but that would proably be overkill |
| 14:55.51 | CosmicPenguin | Plus I think the opteron is probably running a bit hotter then the athlon I'm trying to emulate here |
| 14:56.20 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 14:56.38 | sorphin | my athlon runs pretty damn hot even w/ a decent fan :P |
| 14:56.44 | sorphin | hotter than the P4 |
| 14:56.45 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:57.54 | CosmicPenguin | shh! |
| 14:59.06 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:59.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: have them bring an Alchemy ;) |
| 14:59.25 | sorphin | so i can atleast die w/ something cool |
| 15:00.05 | CosmicPenguin | At least you still believe the Alchemy is cool |
| 15:00.08 | CosmicPenguin | the deception is half complete |
| 15:00.34 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:03.08 | vittorio | asking again maybe with more luck, does anyone know commercial embedded linux distributions which support RTAI? so far i have found only two: SysGo ELinOS and Koan K-Linux |
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| 15:05.57 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds like you've done more research then we have |
| 15:07.10 | vittorio | CosmicPenguin, what did you found? |
| 15:07.33 | CosmicPenguin | Let me rephrase - you have done research, and we haven't |
| 15:07.41 | vittorio | oh :) |
| 15:44.52 | prpplague | i have sooooo much 2#$!@#$! to do |
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| 17:05.20 | prpplague | argh i can't figure out what i'm doing wrongs with this s3c2410 jtag |
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| 19:36.21 | prpplague | jtag is killing me today |
| 19:36.29 | prpplague | i can't seem to talk to this nor flash chip |
| 19:41.13 | T`2 | lol |
| 19:42.10 | CosmicPenguin | doesn't sound funny to me |
| 19:42.44 | T`2 | heh |
| 19:44.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not at all |
| 19:44.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can;t seem to get it talking |
| 19:55.52 | T0mW | prpplague: heh |
| 19:56.07 | T0mW | prpplague: life sux, then you have to debug |
| 19:56.31 | CosmicPenguin | then you fix it, and you have to break it again |
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| 21:15.16 | sorphin | jbevren: yay, it was delivered |
| 21:21.03 | jbevren | sorphin: awesome |
| 21:21.12 | jbevren | 19200n8 com1 |
| 21:21.31 | jbevren | use linux 1 to boot it up w/o password, and change root's bash_profile |
| 21:21.34 | jbevren | there's no root pass iirc |
| 21:39.09 | jbevren | grr |
| 21:39.17 | jbevren | FC-AL toys are expensive :( |
| 21:50.46 | sorphin | jbevren: yep, and pointless |
| 21:51.08 | sorphin | jbevren: i still have to find a way to power these things when i get home |
| 21:51.35 | jbevren | sorphin: really? |
| 21:51.41 | jbevren | cause I have a 4bay box thats rather fast |
| 21:51.51 | jbevren | I just have probs in linux (win2k is on the drives in the box) |
| 21:52.09 | jbevren | sorphin: stop on the way home at walmart and get 4 marine batteries lol |
| 21:52.20 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:54.39 | sorphin | jbevren: standard ATX hookup on the MB? |
| 21:55.22 | jbevren | mb? |
| 21:55.36 | jbevren | the 1u kontrons? |
| 21:56.08 | jbevren | they get power from the cpci slot |
| 21:58.51 | sorphin | ok |
| 21:58.54 | sorphin | the 48v psu |
| 21:59.02 | sorphin | it's an ATX psu, no? |
| 21:59.10 | jbevren | eh? its a compactpci psu |
| 21:59.29 | sorphin | well, i guess i won't be using these things for a whiel then |
| 21:59.29 | jbevren | CPCI has a 'power' slot |
| 21:59.48 | sorphin | cuz i'm not stacking marine batteries in my basement |
| 21:59.56 | jbevren | there are 48v power sources for $20 on lamebay |
| 22:00.17 | sorphin | or i could just change the psu to a 120v cpci psu |
| 22:00.18 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:00.29 | jbevren | and rewire the backplane :) |
| 22:00.31 | jbevren | but yeah |
| 22:00.35 | jbevren | er |
| 22:00.36 | sorphin | uh |
| 22:00.36 | jbevren | not backplane |
| 22:00.40 | jbevren | the rear bulkhead is set up for 48v |
| 22:00.48 | jbevren | but that'd be a simple project to redo |
| 22:00.51 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:00.54 | sorphin | it's called a dremel |
| 22:00.59 | sorphin | ;) |
| 22:01.03 | jbevren | nod. and rip out the 48v input electronics |
| 22:01.07 | sorphin | yep |
| 22:01.15 | jbevren | I figured I wanted to ups mine, so I went ahead and got a battery equipped 48v source |
| 22:01.22 | sorphin | well |
| 22:01.26 | sorphin | i alreayd have a nice big UPS |
| 22:01.33 | jbevren | nod |
| 22:01.33 | sorphin | that's backing up the network |
| 22:01.40 | sorphin | so.. |
| 22:01.56 | sorphin | anyways |
| 22:01.58 | jbevren | I dont agree with the 120v -> XXv -> 120v -> XXv ups concept :) |
| 22:02.02 | jbevren | huge waste of power :) |
| 22:02.06 | sorphin | huh? |
| 22:02.09 | jbevren | ok |
| 22:02.12 | jbevren | your ups is 120v |
| 22:02.15 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:02.18 | jbevren | AC kicks out, so it switches to battery |
| 22:02.21 | jbevren | upconverts to 120v |
| 22:02.24 | sorphin | right |
| 22:02.30 | jbevren | your PC psu.. guess what.. converst back to dc :) |
| 22:02.35 | sorphin | and? |
| 22:02.36 | jbevren | most psu's are 20% waste power |
| 22:02.45 | jbevren | most upconverters on ups'en are 30-50% waste |
| 22:03.02 | sorphin | jbevren: well, i can't run everything have on 48v :P |
| 22:03.06 | jbevren | systems designed to run on DC are better, around 15% normally :P |
| 22:03.11 | sorphin | most of it wont' take a 48v psu |
| 22:03.15 | jbevren | sorphin: heh |
| 22:03.22 | sorphin | plus |
| 22:03.29 | sorphin | as much as i have |
| 22:03.31 | jbevren | oo |
| 22:03.32 | jbevren | beer thirty |
| 22:03.35 | sorphin | i'd need 10 batteries |
| 22:03.36 | sorphin | :P |
| 22:03.40 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:03.49 | sorphin | to cover the amperage draw there would be at 48v |
| 22:04.11 | jbevren | it's surprising how little systems really use, unless you have p4's etc |
| 22:04.11 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:04.13 | sorphin | 120v@ draws less from the line than at 48v@ |
| 22:04.23 | jbevren | its the same wattage my friend |
| 22:04.24 | sorphin | jbevren: or an athlon tbird ;) |
| 22:04.29 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.31 | sorphin | wattage smattage |
| 22:04.40 | jbevren | bah. :P |
| 22:04.41 | sorphin | woopdidoo |
| 22:04.51 | jbevren | not that I gradiated college |
| 22:04.57 | jbevren | useless run in the muck that was |
| 22:05.01 | CosmicPenguin | how ironic |
| 22:05.08 | jbevren | btw, brb.. dropping my fibrechannel card in the workstation |
| 22:05.11 | sorphin | uh oh |
| 22:06.17 | jbevren | ok afk |
| 22:18.24 | jbevren | grr |
| 22:18.31 | jbevren | I just tried to alt-drag my window |
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| 22:25.57 | sorphin | jbevren: heh, atleast the rack ears are movable.. i don't need them in the middle |
| 22:26.01 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:26.06 | jbevren | theyre set up for telecom racks |
| 22:26.19 | jbevren | I thought it'd be neat if you could turn em 90 degrees for wall mounting |
| 22:26.30 | file[laptop] | OKAY |
| 22:26.34 | jbevren | File! |
| 22:26.35 | file[laptop] | who broke my ISP's DSLAM? |
| 22:26.40 | jbevren | not me :) |
| 22:26.46 | jbevren | you were the one with a bomb |
| 22:27.23 | file[laptop] | 1733 rxerrors on that ATM interface |
| 22:27.32 | file[laptop] | 1735... |
| 22:27.37 | jbevren | call 'em |
| 22:27.39 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:27.42 | sorphin | jbevren: i'd just move them forward |
| 22:27.45 | file[laptop] | I've never gotten through in soooo long |
| 22:27.50 | sorphin | file[laptop]: i did! i did! |
| 22:27.56 | jbevren | sorphin: my plan |
| 22:28.01 | jbevren | once, of course, I get a rack :) |
| 22:28.09 | sorphin | jbevren: were some of your ports covered w/ little red covers? |
| 22:28.11 | jbevren | the local hardware store sells rails that will work for rack mounting |
| 22:28.14 | jbevren | I just need to build the frame |
| 22:28.19 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:28.20 | sorphin | uh |
| 22:28.21 | jbevren | they all were |
| 22:28.22 | sorphin | rails? |
| 22:28.28 | sorphin | i have a 2 post relay rack |
| 22:28.33 | jbevren | yeah. the screw rails. |
| 22:28.35 | sorphin | no rails needed here |
| 22:28.44 | jbevren | or, in your definition, posts |
| 22:28.48 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:28.58 | sorphin | jbevren: one the parallel isn't coverd |
| 22:28.59 | file[laptop] | on hold |
| 22:29.07 | jbevren | ah |
| 22:29.08 | sorphin | and the other they have a cable between the switch and one of the ethernets |
| 22:29.09 | jbevren | mine was |
| 22:29.24 | jbevren | the parallel btw, is not a parallel port for the system |
| 22:29.27 | sorphin | i really need a workbench down here |
| 22:29.30 | jbevren | its a config interface for the switch |
| 22:29.33 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:29.35 | sorphin | scary |
| 22:29.37 | jbevren | nod |
| 22:29.42 | jbevren | uses a bitbanged interface |
| 22:29.46 | jbevren | read the pdf I sent you |
| 22:29.48 | sorphin | i'll be removing that card anyways |
| 22:29.52 | jbevren | the switcH? |
| 22:29.54 | sorphin | yep |
| 22:29.56 | sorphin | don't need it |
| 22:30.01 | jbevren | you'll want to cover the hole |
| 22:30.04 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:30.05 | sorphin | i know |
| 22:30.07 | jbevren | so you dont interrupt the airflow :) |
| 22:30.15 | sorphin | i need a cpci slot cover |
| 22:30.17 | jbevren | at any rate, I'll be phasing my nortel out |
| 22:30.26 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:30.31 | jbevren | or making a router out of it |
| 22:30.31 | sorphin | switch i'm assuming? |
| 22:30.34 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:30.36 | jbevren | l3 router |
| 22:30.36 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:30.41 | jbevren | 12 10/100, 1 gbit sx |
| 22:30.46 | sorphin | uh |
| 22:30.46 | jbevren | I have two units |
| 22:30.51 | sorphin | you mean layer 3 switch? |
| 22:30.54 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:31.01 | jbevren | but it does route |
| 22:31.06 | sorphin | cuz routers are natively layer 3 ;) |
| 22:31.08 | jbevren | give ti an ip and feed it static routes or RIP packets |
| 22:31.13 | sorphin | right |
| 22:31.16 | sorphin | a layer 3 switch |
| 22:31.24 | sorphin | anyways |
| 22:31.28 | sorphin | i need a damn workbench |
| 22:31.33 | jbevren | me too |
| 22:31.38 | sorphin | i have no where to work on things here |
| 22:31.45 | sorphin | if i took a pic of my basement atm |
| 22:31.50 | sorphin | it'd scare everyone here |
| 22:31.58 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:32.03 | sorphin | stuff everywhere |
| 22:32.07 | sorphin | boxes, etc too |
| 22:32.22 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:32.28 | jbevren | sounds like my house |
| 22:32.31 | sorphin | what's sick |
| 22:32.37 | sorphin | is i figured out (new subject) |
| 22:32.42 | sorphin | all my boxes running together |
| 22:32.59 | sorphin | is still less key rate than CosmicPenguin's dual core box (on 1 core) |
| 22:32.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:33.06 | jbevren | lol :) |
| 22:33.15 | jbevren | man, I'd love to measure my o2k |
| 22:33.24 | jbevren | I should have while I had it online at my old workpalce |
| 22:34.09 | sorphin | jbevren: my U30 @300mhz |
| 22:34.25 | sorphin | bout 624k keys/sec |
| 22:34.44 | sorphin | my PIII 550 |
| 22:34.50 | sorphin | 1.3mil keys/sec |
| 22:35.08 | sorphin | i'm pushing about 26.1millions key/sec |
| 22:36.04 | sorphin | jbevren: wow |
| 22:36.10 | sorphin | these cards are smaller than they look online |
| 22:36.16 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:36.18 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:36.19 | sorphin | pictures really do add 10lbs :P (or make things look huge) |
| 22:36.35 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:36.37 | sorphin | mitel semi |
| 22:36.38 | jbevren | grr |
| 22:36.43 | jbevren | I want to put my sb live into 2ch mode |
| 22:36.50 | jbevren | but the f/ing creative software wont install |
| 22:36.53 | jbevren | cause I dont have a sblive |
| 22:36.55 | jbevren | yet I do |
| 22:37.28 | sorphin | oh cute |
| 22:37.32 | sorphin | you can pop out the swtich |
| 22:37.36 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:37.39 | sorphin | but have to removes screws to pop out the MB |
| 22:37.42 | jbevren | its a standard 2slot chassis |
| 22:37.47 | jbevren | oh |
| 22:37.49 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:37.54 | jbevren | the sswitch was already unscrewed |
| 22:37.55 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:37.56 | sorphin | glad i found my little Adtran screwdriver |
| 22:38.34 | sorphin | fits the crystal screws perfect |
| 22:38.36 | sorphin | fits these |
| 22:38.40 | sorphin | just the right size |
| 22:38.50 | jbevren | yep. a #1 philips |
| 22:38.57 | jbevren | #2 fits but not in the handles' holes |
| 22:39.46 | jbevren | man I really wish the video scaler in these cards worked in linux |
| 22:39.52 | sorphin | least there's screws on the cpu's heatsink |
| 22:40.15 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:40.16 | sorphin | ok |
| 22:40.18 | jbevren | I couldnt remove mine |
| 22:40.22 | sorphin | the scale is definately different |
| 22:40.29 | sorphin | the header sizes |
| 22:40.44 | jbevren | the grommits in the motherboard turn with the screws on mine |
| 22:41.03 | jbevren | windows is wonderful! |
| 22:41.07 | jbevren | cant even play a standard mpeg file |
| 22:41.10 | sorphin | uh huh |
| 22:41.32 | sorphin | uh |
| 22:41.39 | sorphin | wtf do they say vga/com2 ? |
| 22:41.44 | sorphin | when it's only com2 |
| 22:41.48 | jbevren | because if you have a board with vga |
| 22:41.51 | jbevren | then there's no com2 |
| 22:41.58 | sorphin | AND include a kb/mouse connector |
| 22:41.59 | jbevren | that way theyt can manufacture one bulkhead for both setups |
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| 22:42.13 | jbevren | the kbd/mouse is there in case you have the vga on rear IO |
| 22:42.36 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:42.59 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:43.01 | sorphin | ah yes.. afterfab jumper wires |
| 22:44.00 | jbevren | gah |
| 22:44.08 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:44.10 | jbevren | POS. |
| 22:45.03 | sorphin | yep |
| 22:46.18 | jbevren | ahh |
| 22:46.19 | jbevren | linux. |
| 22:46.25 | jbevren | now to build a recent kernel to retry the adapter |
| 22:46.49 | sorphin | wtf no wonder these screws turned weird |
| 22:46.53 | sorphin | they're not phillips |
| 22:46.56 | sorphin | but not flathead |
| 22:46.59 | sorphin | they have a flat |
| 22:47.01 | sorphin | but are torx |
| 22:47.11 | sorphin | btu a philips just fits |
| 22:47.32 | sorphin | doh |
| 22:47.43 | sorphin | ok they are philips, just oddly short on the cross |
| 22:48.05 | jbevren | didnt linus kill the a.b.c.d kernel versioning scheme? |
| 22:48.59 | sorphin | jbevren: ah, i see the psu problem ;) |
| 22:49.25 | sorphin | Made in Slovakia :P one of the split countries :P |
| 22:50.07 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:50.31 | jbevren | anyway, the cpci power slot would be easily convertible to 120v |
| 22:50.39 | jbevren | just put an emi filter input module in and youre set |
| 22:51.45 | sorphin | man these screws are easy to start stripping |
| 22:51.46 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:53.26 | jbevren | nyaa |
| 22:58.24 | sorphin | jbevren: i don't see no blue led :P |
| 23:01.28 | jbevren | sorphin: its the h/sw led on the right side |
| 23:03.36 | sorphin | jbevren: ah the one that's an odd blue that looks green when it's off |
| 23:03.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:03.41 | sorphin | i'm used to clear lens blue leds |
| 23:04.02 | jbevren | shrug :P |
| 23:04.20 | jbevren | its probably not really blue, and uses a green lens to clean up the other colors |
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| 23:45.04 | Genesis | bonne nuit |