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| 03:24.54 | fishhead | is there a device they sell to clip on top of a tsop-48 rom to reprogram it in a dead unit |
| 03:25.04 | fishhead | while it's still soldered to a device |
| 03:26.21 | T` | that wouldn't make sense fishhead |
| 03:26.37 | fishhead | ? |
| 03:26.43 | fishhead | no I mean attach to the pins |
| 03:26.59 | T` | can't tag on a programmer while you already have the chip soldered onto the board... unless its electrically isolated from the rest of the board |
| 03:27.13 | T` | right, but the pins are still attached to the rest of the circuitry |
| 03:27.39 | fishhead | ok |
| 03:27.43 | T` | generally to program you dont need too many pins |
| 03:27.49 | fishhead | so basically I have a paperweight |
| 03:27.57 | T` | you can isolate which ones you want, take a exacto knife and lift those pins |
| 03:28.08 | T` | then solder some small wires to it and program it |
| 03:28.23 | fishhead | my hands shake badly |
| 03:28.27 | fishhead | probably not going to happen |
| 03:28.32 | T` | ummm |
| 03:28.37 | T` | what are you trying to do? |
| 03:28.43 | fishhead | i got a dead palm IIIxe |
| 03:28.47 | fishhead | need to flash the rom |
| 03:29.03 | fishhead | it's corrupted so badly the palm can't start unless I ground emubrk pin and go into serial bootstrap mode |
| 03:29.22 | fishhead | and I don't know how to use that so I am thinking about removing the rom, attach to pc programmaer and fixing it |
| 03:29.46 | T` | oh, for such things, my guess is there might be a change they dont use the pins which are used for programming in conflicting way .. so you could probably program in-place |
| 03:29.57 | T` | s/change/chance |
| 03:30.23 | fishhead | I would disconnect the power from the device of course |
| 03:30.46 | T` | did you check if there are any traces on the board leading to a jtag or some other connector from that ROM ? |
| 03:30.55 | fishhead | not that I know of |
| 03:31.08 | fishhead | serial bootstrap mode is kinda hte jtag mode |
| 03:31.18 | fishhead | you use terminal program to talk to, send data etc |
| 03:31.31 | fishhead | there is even a script for loading a linux kernel but never got it to work |
| 03:32.02 | T` | do you have the original palm ROM ? |
| 03:32.07 | fishhead | I can get it |
| 03:32.13 | T` | oh ok |
| 03:32.16 | fishhead | plus I have a semi working palm IIIx that uses the same rom code |
| 03:32.28 | fishhead | semi working cause I don't have a digitizer :P |
| 03:32.43 | T` | digitizer for? |
| 03:32.46 | fishhead | touch screen :P |
| 03:32.56 | T` | heh not much of a use is it |
| 03:32.58 | T` | ;) |
| 03:33.07 | fishhead | it was my mom's unit, I dropped it and since my IIIxe was dead I gave her my screen + digitizer unit |
| 03:33.10 | fishhead | and she dropped it herself |
| 03:33.17 | T` | heh |
| 03:33.23 | fishhead | I have a working lcd but no digitizer |
| 03:33.41 | fishhead | there is a palm program I think to dump the regs |
| 03:33.43 | T` | well, is the linux image actually loaded into ROM through that script? |
| 03:33.44 | fishhead | err rom |
| 03:33.46 | fishhead | regs and all |
| 03:33.52 | fishhead | it can be yes |
| 03:33.58 | fishhead | I just don't know how to make it work on my unit |
| 03:33.58 | T` | generally if its one-tme thing, it would be loaded into some RAM area and bootstrapped from there i would think |
| 03:34.02 | fishhead | yes |
| 03:34.07 | fishhead | if I could get a linux image to run |
| 03:34.10 | fishhead | I could use flash repair tools |
| 03:34.35 | fishhead | don't bother yourself too much I can't get to it till I finish moving anyways |
| 03:34.37 | fishhead | it's buried in a box |
| 03:34.43 | fishhead | just getting ideas |
| 03:34.47 | fishhead | I might take back my palm t5 |
| 03:34.51 | fishhead | not happy with it at all |
| 03:35.00 | T` | well, why dont you just try to figure out a way for linux.. it would be much convenient (cuz of your shaky hands) than taking the ROM apart and programming |
| 03:35.17 | fishhead | iI tried but no one knows anything about serial bootstrapping :( |
| 03:35.40 | T` | hmm... the author? |
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| 04:25.39 | fishhead | I found something that won't run linux right worth a shit |
| 04:25.42 | fishhead | p133 16 meg ram |
| 04:45.24 | fishhead | opened the window and shouted at the storm, "BITE ME" |
| 04:45.50 | fishhead | that felt good |
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| 13:18.55 | fishhead | http://opera.com/free/ <--- wow |
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| 13:53.30 | prpplague | is sorphin still on holiday? |
| 13:53.36 | prpplague | ~seen sorphin |
| 13:53.38 | ibot | sorphin <n=dans@70.249.196.81> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 11d 12h 52m 24s ago, saying: 'good riddance'. |
| 13:53.53 | prpplague | ~sorphin |
| 13:53.55 | ibot | [sorphin] sorphin, or a Network Security lackey |
| 13:58.20 | jbevren | I thnk so |
| 13:59.05 | CosmicPenguin | Did he delay his trip because of the hurricane last week? |
| 13:59.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't know he bugged out after an a bad day on the channel |
| 13:59.53 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:00.36 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:04.54 | jbevren | This will remove Norton Internet Security 2005 from your computer. After uninstalling, you will have to restart your computer. If you are concerned about your computer's security, please disconnect it from the internet. |
| 14:04.56 | jbevren | lol |
| 14:07.39 | T0mW | jbevren: that thing is POS! I had worked on a friend's computer trying to install the sucker on WinXP. It kept bailing out of the install |
| 14:07.54 | jbevren | I wont use norton's software |
| 14:08.00 | jbevren | its been crap since symantec took it over |
| 14:08.05 | CosmicPenguin | Its better then mcafee |
| 14:08.09 | CosmicPenguin | that stuff is pure crap |
| 14:08.11 | jbevren | avg is better |
| 14:08.18 | T0mW | jbevren: I wish she wouldn't use WinXP |
| 14:08.21 | jbevren | mcaffee only finds viruses when another virus app finds em |
| 14:08.28 | jbevren | tom: I have an xp box for gaming |
| 14:08.36 | jbevren | although, it's been powered down for hmmmm |
| 14:08.38 | jbevren | 3 months? |
| 14:08.42 | CosmicPenguin | I figure no games are worth it |
| 14:08.43 | T0mW | yah, I got a copy of AVG to install for her on Friday |
| 14:09.36 | T0mW | problem with XP is that I cannot see what it is running in the background: e.g ps -ax |
| 14:10.30 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: I find Win2K usefull: it runs quickbooks and only quickbooks (under VMWare) |
| 14:11.11 | T0mW | I've 8 years of company data in quickbooks, I don't think that I'll be moving to GnuCash soon |
| 14:11.21 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:11.25 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, thats a tough transition |
| 14:11.32 | CosmicPenguin | though GnuCash is pretty decent |
| 14:11.35 | CosmicPenguin | the reporting sucks |
| 14:11.53 | T0mW | they have import tools for the Quicken QIF files, but not for the QuickBooks data files. |
| 14:11.54 | CosmicPenguin | But its getting better |
| 14:13.22 | prpplague | interesting, did anyone know that "cultural shock" is a recognized medical condition? |
| 14:13.48 | fishhead | hey t0mw |
| 14:13.52 | fishhead | you still playing with your webpal |
| 14:14.02 | fishhead | mine is coming out of mothballs 1-2 weeks after I get moved into new pad |
| 14:14.03 | fishhead | :) |
| 14:14.37 | T0mW | prpplague: probably another "disease" treatable with Prozak |
| 14:15.25 | T0mW | "here, take 25mg of Valium and you won't care what it is you are looking at..." |
| 14:15.47 | fishhead | culture shock |
| 14:15.48 | fishhead | heh |
| 14:15.51 | fishhead | I go thru that every day |
| 14:16.02 | fishhead | and I was born here and lived here every day of my 31 yrs |
| 14:16.11 | prpplague | T0mW: http://www.pacificu.edu/academics/as/inter/ip/cultureshock.html |
| 14:16.26 | prpplague | T0mW: apparently its very common with students going to school abroad |
| 14:16.31 | chouimat | prpplague: wow ... the psy* have way too much free time ... |
| 14:16.38 | prpplague | T0mW: also with gov workers overseas |
| 14:16.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I can see that though - I've been places where I just sit there and go "oh, crap, what the hell am I doing in <blank>" |
| 14:16.48 | fishhead | hey chouimat |
| 14:16.52 | fishhead | the ladies still all over you ? |
| 14:17.02 | prpplague | chouimat: well it fits perfectly with what i;ve got at the momment |
| 14:17.04 | chouimat | prpplague: and me moving from Quebec to Ontario I guess ;) |
| 14:17.12 | T0mW | ok, PCB should be here Thursday, solder paste comes in today... |
| 14:17.36 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: LOL |
| 14:17.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you have culture shock? I thought you were pretty comfortable with the islands? |
| 14:18.14 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: in fact, I got that in Germany last week, especially since I don't speak a word of German |
| 14:18.16 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: probably the fact he can't wear a gun ... |
| 14:18.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i thought i was |
| 14:18.26 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: I got to the hotel and went "crap - now what?" |
| 14:18.39 | prpplague | chouimat: funny you should mention that, i told my wife that last night, hehe |
| 14:18.47 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 14:18.50 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:19.07 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: you speak on word of german ... Bier ;) |
| 14:19.09 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 14:19.12 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, and butter |
| 14:19.21 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: been sent to Elbonia yet? |
| 14:19.32 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: thankfully no.. :) |
| 14:19.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think its the fact that i never stayed this long |
| 14:19.43 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, our fab in Germany is nothing short of massively impressive |
| 14:19.44 | T0mW | next week |
| 14:19.55 | CosmicPenguin | I shoudl say, our two fabs |
| 14:19.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: longest i ever stayed with 42 days |
| 14:20.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I guess thats the difference - every time I go abroad, I know I'll eventually come home - I guess its a different story when you're there for good |
| 14:21.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not talking geek with anyone here is whats really getting to me |
| 14:21.42 | CosmicPenguin | It is a matter of not finding people, or there just not being any qualified geeks around? |
| 14:22.18 | chouimat | next month we will see in Barbados "The Plague's Geek linguistic Acadamy for non-geek" |
| 14:22.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: there are few ppl here, but they are more like biz types, not really geeks |
| 14:22.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think its a cultural thing here, you just don't see many geeks in the carib |
| 14:23.18 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, imho either you're either born a geek or not, hehe |
| 14:23.27 | chouimat | hehe |
| 14:25.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we went and saw war of the worlds with a couple other ppl, and after the movie i started talking about all the problems i saw with the movie, and when i looked around everyone had this glassy eyed look similiar to a deer in headlights |
| 14:25.37 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:25.59 | CosmicPenguin | Well, I would move to give you a hand, but I would probably end up hospitalized with terminal culture shock |
| 14:26.05 | chouimat | prpplague: wow ... now you have to learn to just watch the movie =) |
| 14:26.14 | CosmicPenguin | I was born at 5280 feet above sea level, and I'll die there |
| 14:26.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i suspect that it all has to do with their slave history here, because ppl here just don't question things |
| 14:26.45 | CosmicPenguin | Interesting |
| 14:27.26 | T0mW | prpplague: maybe they just don't care? |
| 14:27.51 | T0mW | prpplague: sex, booze and coconuts? |
| 14:28.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: one example, every receipt you get has a $0.01 stamp on it, but if you ask someone why, no one knows |
| 14:28.21 | T0mW | heh, sales tax |
| 14:28.23 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe thats because you're an outsider... :) |
| 14:28.42 | file[laptop] | they don't trust him! heathen! blasphemy! |
| 14:28.46 | CosmicPenguin | xnay on the alstaxay, the Texan is here |
| 14:28.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 14:29.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: other things like taxes for cars, no one can tell you want the taxes are for or what the rates are |
| 14:30.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when they register their car, the get a bill and they pay it |
| 14:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | strange |
| 14:30.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: insurance companies don't give you an itemized bill for what you are paying for |
| 14:30.53 | CosmicPenguin | here, people complain even when they know exactly what they're payingfor |
| 14:31.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: there is no national org that does weights and measurements, i.e. scales at the grocery store |
| 14:31.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed, i just never seen ppl just accept it |
| 14:32.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: overall i find ppl here very accepting of the way things are without questions |
| 14:33.49 | chouimat | prpplague: must be fun at work ... when the boss ask stupid stuff ;) |
| 14:33.50 | prpplague | chouimat: ? |
| 14:33.56 | chouimat | prpplague: if they accept everything without questions ... imagine dilbert in this setting |
| 14:34.18 | prpplague | chouimat: oh, i still work for a company in the states, telecomute |
| 14:34.28 | chouimat | prpplague: ok |
| 14:35.45 | T0mW | prpplague: how does Donna feel about those things? Is she the same way? |
| 14:36.07 | prpplague | T0mW: well whats funny is she wasn't that way in the states, but she is here |
| 14:36.16 | T0mW | ha |
| 14:36.44 | T0mW | odd that she could mentally shift like that |
| 14:37.02 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:45.10 | *** join/#elinux sorphin (n=sorphin@mewp.captainrock.com) |
| 14:46.31 | prpplague | draw a pentagram, light some candles, chant a few phrases, and poof, he appears |
| 14:46.41 | prpplague | sorphin: greetings |
| 14:46.50 | prpplague | sorphin: back from sunny florida? |
| 14:46.52 | sorphin | prpplague: lo |
| 14:46.56 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah |
| 14:46.58 | file[laptop] | meep |
| 14:47.19 | sorphin | prpplague: w/ proper geek pictures |
| 14:47.39 | CosmicPenguin | Studies have shown there is nothing more boring then pictures of other peoples vacations |
| 14:47.55 | file[laptop] | except when something happens |
| 14:48.03 | file[laptop] | and then it turns into a slideshow of blood and gore |
| 14:48.44 | sorphin | CP|Home: well, i'm only in 1 of the pictures, so that slightly decreases the boring factor, since a big portion of the pics are from KSC |
| 14:49.14 | sorphin | (Kennedy Space Center) |
| 14:49.38 | sorphin | anyways |
| 14:57.34 | CosmicPenguin | I hate .xls files |
| 14:58.05 | CosmicPenguin | I hate that everybody has an "export to .pdf" option in their applications, but never fsckin' use it! |
| 14:58.44 | CosmicPenguin | I hate this Cisco pcmcia card |
| 14:58.45 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: why? cause it is always broken? |
| 15:08.01 | jbevren | I hate this spectrum24 card :P |
| 15:09.48 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe |
| 15:09.57 | prpplague | jbevren: yea the driver support sucks |
| 15:10.17 | jbevren | s'ok |
| 15:10.20 | jbevren | I wasnt after teh card |
| 15:10.28 | jbevren | it can be binned as far as I care |
| 15:10.43 | jbevren | however, its irritating that the touch screen doesnt want to work |
| 15:10.58 | prpplague | jbevren: ? |
| 15:11.49 | jbevren | its a dynapro sc3 according to the win98 install on the harddisk |
| 15:11.54 | jbevren | but it wont (yet) work in linux |
| 15:12.57 | prpplague | oh i thought you were speaking about the s24 card |
| 15:13.19 | jbevren | ah |
| 15:13.26 | jbevren | well, taht doesnt work either, but I dont care |
| 15:13.31 | jbevren | it was in the system the touch screen came with |
| 15:15.22 | sorphin | jbevren: so you bought that thing just for the touchscreen? heh |
| 15:15.30 | jbevren | and the handydandy enclosure |
| 15:15.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:15.37 | jbevren | its fairly weatherproofed actually |
| 15:15.45 | jbevren | aside from all the ports hanging out the back |
| 15:16.08 | sorphin | jbevren: this that thing you pointed me at on ebay before i left? |
| 15:16.37 | jbevren | nod |
| 15:17.06 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:17.37 | prpplague | jbevren: url? |
| 15:18.11 | jbevren | ebay 7540410817 |
| 15:18.38 | jbevren | sorphin: I tossed a usb bulkhead from my drawer on it |
| 15:18.48 | jbevren | that way I can use the mouse till I figure the TS out |
| 15:18.58 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:19.14 | jbevren | the usb header's right by the pc/104 bus though, so the cards dont plug in all the way |
| 15:19.19 | jbevren | they work, just not fully seated |
| 15:19.34 | jbevren | the pcmcia bridge is a vadem isabus bridge |
| 15:20.48 | prpplague | cute |
| 15:21.16 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - you can spend that much and get yourself a decent touchscreen / monitor that will plug into something more powerful |
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| 15:22.43 | sorphin | CP|Home: heh, i come back from vacation, and what do i see? a plane from Sun thanking AMD whilst circling Dell HQ |
| 15:23.05 | sorphin | since name matching is gonna be trouble today |
| 15:23.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: heh - yeah |
| 15:23.32 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I heard about that - I guess sun just announced a brand new line of Opteron servers |
| 15:23.39 | CosmicPenguin | And they're going AMD only for x86 |
| 15:23.52 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.case-mod.com/store/lilliput-619gl70npct-lcd-touch-screen-vga-monitor-black-p-1201.html?src=fr |
| 15:24.05 | sorphin | CP|Home: yeah, and AMD has F1 locked up tight too (Formula 1) |
| 15:24.05 | CosmicPenguin | I have one of those in my office - its pretty cool, if you want a nice little touchscreen / VGA combo |
| 15:24.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so how was Dresden btw? |
| 15:24.41 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it was good |
| 15:25.23 | sorphin | do anything neat? |
| 15:25.52 | CosmicPenguin | There you go |
| 15:25.58 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I did a little siteseeing |
| 15:26.01 | CosmicPenguin | drank some beer |
| 15:26.16 | CosmicPenguin | Our fabs are pretty damn cool - we have our own power plants, one for each fab |
| 15:26.19 | sorphin | played in the cleanrooms? ;) |
| 15:26.22 | sorphin | yep |
| 15:26.26 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: heh - no |
| 15:27.01 | sorphin | i need to ask the guy i know here who his wife works for again.. they make a big percentage of the wafers used |
| 15:27.08 | sorphin | but i forgot wtf they are |
| 15:27.35 | CosmicPenguin | But you would see lots of people in the cafeteria wearing the the shirts and pants they wear when they're in the clean room suits |
| 15:27.56 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:28.56 | CosmicPenguin | The germans are way efficient though - the security cards carry a cash balance, and everything in the building is wired in |
| 15:29.14 | CosmicPenguin | vending machines, soda machines, food in the cafeteria |
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| 15:29.26 | sorphin | :) |
| 15:30.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heard of MEMC? that's the wafer place i mentioned |
| 15:30.54 | CosmicPenguin | No |
| 15:31.24 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:31.58 | CosmicPenguin | But I'm not too familiar with the whole wafer process |
| 15:32.05 | CosmicPenguin | I know we get them, we make our chips, and thats about it |
| 15:33.12 | sorphin | yep |
| 15:33.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:34.26 | jbevren | my dynapro controller is some funky pc/104 thing |
| 15:34.42 | jbevren | it goes on pc/104, and provides a CF slot for the ide bus (separate controller) |
| 15:34.42 | sorphin | the F00F bug was caused by the FPU lookup table being xfered via a *modem* from one place to another |
| 15:34.43 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:34.48 | jbevren | and also goes to the onboard serial header |
| 15:34.58 | jbevren | sorphin: crazy |
| 15:35.24 | prpplague | jbevren: sounds like it might be multiplexed with some other data |
| 15:35.29 | CosmicPenguin | jbevren: I love those dynapro controllers though - calibration is so nice |
| 15:35.47 | jbevren | prpplague: not really, I think |
| 15:35.52 | jbevren | its a strange card, |
| 15:35.57 | jbevren | made specifically for this board.. |
| 15:36.05 | jbevren | on the sbc, the ide header is next to pc/104 |
| 15:36.18 | jbevren | the pc/104 card in question has a pc/104 header to pass through, and an ide header to match the board |
| 15:36.26 | jbevren | ide goes to the cf slot as well as a cable to the hdd |
| 15:36.56 | jbevren | the pc/104 provides power to a few ICs, which consist of a stickered 20pin connector (TS controller?), rs232 level shifters, and a couple other oddies |
| 15:37.07 | jbevren | a 10pin cable goes to the rs232 header on teh sbc |
| 15:37.17 | jbevren | and the TS panel hooks to another header on the pc/104 card |
| 15:37.27 | jbevren | the windows driver is the stock dynapro/3m driver |
| 15:38.23 | jbevren | it says com1, rs232, but doesnt state the bit rate (I assume 2400) |
| 15:38.45 | prpplague | jbevren: should be easy to find out |
| 15:38.52 | jbevren | nod. |
| 15:38.57 | jbevren | I'll scope it eventually :P |
| 15:39.01 | prpplague | jbevren: you can jack an oxscope on there and have a look |
| 15:39.15 | jbevren | I have a tek scope :) |
| 15:40.32 | CosmicPenguin | jbevren: the dynapro I wrote a driver for in Microwindows was B2400 |
| 15:40.45 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: nod. |
| 15:41.00 | jbevren | I'm using the mmmtouch third-party driver |
| 15:41.04 | jbevren | since it supports hot-calibration |
| 15:42.04 | jbevren | but when I run the mmmcalibrate app, the UI comes up with the crosshair |
| 15:42.07 | jbevren | and when I tap nothing happens |
| 15:42.12 | jbevren | grumble :) |
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| 16:02.42 | fishhead | anyone here know if transmission flushes are worth it? they want $90 and since I have to have my exhaust replaced I might let them do that also |
| 16:07.57 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:08.10 | sorphin | prpplague: did she let you keep the fillings in your teeth? |
| 16:09.56 | sorphin | jbevren: the A3000 people left me feedback finally, but still no antennae |
| 16:11.30 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, but she got my wedding band |
| 16:12.24 | fishhead | well thx everyone for the advice, I appreciate it, espically since most of the channels I asked in, it wasn't channel topic related |
| 16:12.35 | sorphin | prpplague: eh.. if i did ever get divorced from missy, she can have my ring back and i'll take hers back, tho both of ours were expensive anyways, heh |
| 16:12.43 | sorphin | tho i don't forsee it happening, so.. |
| 16:12.51 | sorphin | prpplague: so how's life down on the island? |
| 16:12.59 | prpplague | sorphin: shitty |
| 16:13.07 | sorphin | prpplague: you're not supreme ruler yet? |
| 16:13.09 | prpplague | sorphin: other than that life is grand |
| 16:13.38 | sorphin | prpplague: planning on coming back to the states? |
| 16:14.20 | prpplague | sorphin: dont know yet, still having problems with donnas visa |
| 16:15.16 | sorphin | uh |
| 16:15.17 | prpplague | sorphin: turns out that since i'm no longer in the states i can no longer sponsor my wife to come to the states |
| 16:15.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:15.27 | sorphin | lovely |
| 16:16.22 | fishhead | prpp |
| 16:16.24 | fishhead | fuck em them |
| 16:16.25 | fishhead | their loss |
| 16:16.28 | fishhead | losing your talent |
| 16:16.49 | prpplague | http://www.obliquity.com/exile/ |
| 16:18.22 | prpplague | INS is just freakin broke |
| 16:19.42 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm still completely numb from the treatment i've gotten from ins |
| 16:20.01 | sorphin | prpplague: i hear ya |
| 16:20.06 | fishhead | yeah ins is a joke |
| 16:20.14 | fishhead | the border is a freaking tunnel |
| 16:20.25 | sorphin | missy's brother, his wife is from mexico |
| 16:21.11 | sorphin | she was here before on a student thing, they got married, she had her purse stolen, so her visa was now missing, she had to go back to mexico, he had to sort through red tape and go back down and get her |
| 16:21.12 | prpplague | sorphin: yesterday i waited for 35 minutes on hold while an INS person collected our file for me to check on the status, when i asked what took so long she said, "we were busy and got to you when we could, its not like you are a first class US citizen anyway" |
| 16:21.36 | kergoth | heh, thats fucked up |
| 16:21.37 | sorphin | uhh |
| 16:21.44 | sorphin | "a first class US citizen" eh? |
| 16:21.54 | sorphin | not like they are |
| 16:22.06 | sorphin | they're government trolls |
| 16:22.57 | prpplague | if you google for "United States Immigration Nightmare" you get some really interesting results to read |
| 16:23.00 | sorphin | and speaking of gov't trolls |
| 16:23.40 | fishhead | prpp |
| 16:23.41 | sorphin | which i didn't even need, because, well, i don't generally have runins w/ the law while i'm on vacation, or any other time for that matter |
| 16:23.48 | fishhead | MS13 is going to force INS reform |
| 16:23.51 | prpplague | kergoth: a few months back i had one ask me "whats the matter? couldn't find a woman in the states that would have you?" |
| 16:23.52 | fishhead | and border control reform |
| 16:24.22 | sorphin | prpplague: and they don't record these calls eh? |
| 16:24.52 | prpplague | sorphin: if the call is being recorded they have beeps every 10 seconds or so, so they know when they are being recorded |
| 16:25.04 | sorphin | yeah |
| 16:25.11 | prpplague | sorphin: and you can't say anything or else your paperwork will get "lost" |
| 16:25.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:25.47 | sorphin | well, i've decided, that if something were to happen to missy |
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| 16:25.56 | sorphin | i'm selling the house, the timeshare, the mini |
| 16:26.06 | sorphin | i'm moving to europe |
| 16:26.23 | sorphin | and getting rid of my US citizenship |
| 16:26.23 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:26.47 | prpplague | about the only reason i don't if the kids |
| 16:26.48 | sorphin | prpplague: i decided it long before your nightmare w/ the INS |
| 16:27.00 | sorphin | prpplague: hmm? |
| 16:27.08 | prpplague | is for the kids |
| 16:27.11 | sorphin | right |
| 16:27.13 | sorphin | i meant why |
| 16:27.14 | prpplague | sorry brain not working |
| 16:27.36 | prpplague | sorphin: oh in case they want to go to the states later for college or something i want to be able to visit without problems |
| 16:28.25 | sorphin | ah |
| 16:28.34 | sorphin | prpplague: go to college in europe ;) |
| 16:31.18 | prpplague | sorphin: did you read that url? |
| 16:33.10 | sorphin | prpplague: lost it, got 20 someodd screens up atm |
| 16:34.13 | prpplague | http://www.obliquity.com/exile/ |
| 16:36.56 | sorphin | prpplague: lovely |
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| 16:39.02 | kergoth | prpplague: you know of any good books on doing UIs, specifically from the perspective of a coder who doesnt like doing UIs? :) |
| 16:39.15 | sorphin | prpplague: and from the looks of it, nothign has changed since her letters in 1998 |
| 16:39.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:39.50 | prpplague | kergoth: yea i think i have a couple , one sec |
| 16:40.48 | kergoth | prpplague: k. i'd like to start getting better at it. i doubt i'll ever _like_ it, but not sucking at it would be a start. |
| 16:40.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:41.28 | prpplague | kergoth: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893115941/qid=1127234429/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-0680645-8053731?v=glance&s=books |
| 16:41.34 | prpplague | kergoth: alot of the book is online |
| 16:42.20 | kergoth | joel on software.. where do i know that from.. |
| 16:42.27 | kergoth | oh, i read his article(s) on internationalization/unicode |
| 16:42.32 | kergoth | thats right |
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| 16:55.19 | prpplague | cbrake: hey hey |
| 16:55.22 | kergoth | http://www.cafepress.com/nucleartacos.26746951 |
| 16:55.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gonna be crappy if rita hits houston where the refugees from new orleans are |
| 16:56.02 | prpplague | cute |
| 17:00.47 | prpplague | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/coder/6a20/ |
| 17:01.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no doubt |
| 17:01.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just heard the other day the story of Galveston and Houston |
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| 17:02.51 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: nice tshirt |
| 17:03.15 | prpplague | hehe, love that thinkgeek.com pics |
| 17:06.18 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 17:06.39 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:07.10 | pb_ | prpplague: slowly, to answer your question from a few hours back |
| 17:07.11 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:07.25 | pb_ | haven't actually done any s3c2410 stuff for a little while now |
| 17:13.34 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:15.28 | prpplague | pb_: i thought your ref platform was s3c2410 based |
| 17:29.24 | CosmicPenguin | I am in an fantastic mood, and I don't know why? |
| 17:31.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you had two strippers show up at lunch sent by your wife as a thank you for getting her some curtains for the living room? |
| 17:31.28 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: just enjoy it while it lasts :P |
| 17:33.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well was i right? |
| 17:35.40 | pb_ | prpplague: yeah, it is; I just haven't had a chance to touch it for some time |
| 17:36.04 | prpplague | pb_: ahh, wearing your PHB hat? |
| 17:36.28 | pb_ | yeah |
| 17:41.40 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
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| 18:27.44 | prpplague | pb_: re |
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| 18:35.32 | prpplague | TimRiker: whats cookin? |
| 18:35.44 | prpplague | TimRiker: see you added a page for that sony pda |
| 18:35.49 | fishhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.19 | fishhead | bah that was for one channel only, my bad |
| 18:39.31 | jbevren | heh |
| 18:39.39 | jbevren | I'm twosided on that one |
| 18:39.47 | jbevren | she deserves and should have expected shoving/jostling |
| 18:39.58 | jbevren | but I agree, we dont belong in iraq |
| 18:40.05 | jbevren | although I support those that are there, tis not their choice |
| 18:40.26 | jbevren | nyaa. |
| 18:40.48 | pb_ | prpplague: re |
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| 18:50.54 | jbevren | flash works fine in my copy :P |
| 18:50.59 | jbevren | (of ff) |
| 18:55.55 | prpplague | jbevren: ? |
| 18:56.12 | prpplague | oh about the flash |
| 18:56.22 | prpplague | yea firefox works fine for me with flash |
| 18:58.46 | fishhead | click on some foxnews.com urls |
| 18:58.53 | fishhead | their site is notorously bad |
| 18:58.59 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:59.03 | fishhead | with flash that causes firefox to completely stop responding |
| 18:59.18 | fishhead | I might have just broken flashblock so we will see |
| 19:00.10 | jbevren | fishhead: I dont allow foxnews to run flash on my browser. |
| 19:00.11 | jbevren | next! |
| 19:00.57 | fishhead | I do want to play with opera |
| 19:01.04 | fishhead | see how it's small screen scaling works :P |
| 19:01.12 | jbevren | I have opera5/midori on my compaq IA1 |
| 19:01.49 | fishhead | wish they had a palm os port |
| 19:01.53 | fishhead | i'd buy it today |
| 19:04.40 | fishhead | going to play with 98lite also today :P |
| 19:34.40 | CosmicPenguin | grrr |
| 19:34.44 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I hate freenode |
| 19:34.52 | CosmicPenguin | s/hate/am very angry at/ |
| 19:35.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ditto |
| 19:35.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: did you get my /msg earlier? |
| 19:36.11 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 19:36.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorry - my boss said if I want any more, I'll have to pay for them |
| 19:36.30 | CosmicPenguin | I threw a tittyfit, but it didn't hlep |
| 19:45.21 | sorphin | oh brother |
| 19:45.45 | sorphin | guess that knocks out my getting one, unless the cost is reasonable, heh... i thought they were EOL'd, so what's his deal? |
| 19:46.02 | CosmicPenguin | They're starting to move toward that for all our reference platforms |
| 19:46.47 | CosmicPenguin | I'll have to have a budget assigned to me to shake loose some number of boards on a quarterly basis |
| 19:46.50 | T`2 | more free hw give away cp ? |
| 19:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | At the moment no |
| 19:47.12 | sorphin | T`2: no, more like $$$$ hw giveaway |
| 19:47.21 | sorphin | you give AMD $$$$ |
| 19:47.26 | sorphin | they'll give you an EOL'd board |
| 19:47.35 | T`2 | heh ok |
| 19:48.08 | sorphin | T`2: we missed out |
| 19:48.08 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:49.04 | T`2 | well, depends on what you could buy |
| 19:49.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:49.31 | T`2 | gtg.. get my lib card issued today |
| 19:49.35 | T`2 | cya guys later |
| 19:54.08 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: how bad is the damage $ wise? |
| 19:54.49 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not sure about that |
| 19:54.51 | CosmicPenguin | I'll have to check |
| 19:58.43 | sorphin | k |
| 19:59.13 | file[laptop] | waiting for callbacks sucks |
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| 20:31.31 | jbevren | grr |
| 20:34.53 | sorphin | ? |
| 20:36.02 | jbevren | my red crapit isnt autostarting mtd |
| 20:44.09 | jbevren | ah |
| 20:44.12 | jbevren | typical lowprice junk |
| 20:44.19 | jbevren | the lid switch spring somehow broke |
| 21:21.36 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:47.34 | CosmicPenguin | I've decided I'm on a slow boat to hell, and I should enjoy the ride |
| 21:48.25 | sorphin | CP|Laptop: w/ alchemy's powering the boat and opterons running the engines |
| 21:48.41 | CosmicPenguin | And Geodes in our portable pr0n viewerws |
| 21:49.22 | sorphin | yep |
| 21:49.30 | sorphin | me |
| 21:49.36 | sorphin | i'm still holding out for the Cruton |
| 21:50.01 | CosmicPenguin | If you want, I'll secretly refer to our next chip as the Cruton |
| 21:50.18 | CosmicPenguin | linux-2.6.13-cruton |
| 21:52.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:53.10 | sorphin | i think right now, i'll just go home |
| 21:55.45 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, so this is where my secret shame is exposed |
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