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| 14:10.03 | sorphin | kergoth: lackey |
| 14:10.08 | sorphin | prpplague: moin hillbilly |
| 14:10.31 | prpplague | morning |
| 14:10.36 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:10.54 | prpplague | anyone know of a script or app that automates retrieval of certificates from a winblows box? |
| 14:12.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning mr penguin |
| 14:14.53 | kergoth | bleh |
| 14:16.25 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 14:28.03 | pb_ | hi prpplague |
| 14:28.13 | prpplague | pb_: hey hey boss man |
| 14:28.24 | prpplague | mallum: see the 770 got fcc approval |
| 14:28.35 | mallum | prpplague: yeah |
| 14:29.49 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: did I tell you I saw a 770 at OLS? |
| 14:29.52 | CosmicPenguin | slick..... |
| 14:29.54 | CosmicPenguin | really slick |
| 14:30.08 | jbevren | 770? |
| 14:33.16 | prpplague | jbevren: google: nokia 770 linux |
| 14:38.02 | jbevren | http://content.ytmnd.com//140000/140430/image.jpg |
| 14:39.49 | prpplague | jbevren: haha |
| 14:39.52 | prpplague | jbevren: good one |
| 14:39.53 | Wingnut | wow...I hope that's a spoof |
| 14:45.52 | jbevren | Wingnut: I work support |
| 14:45.58 | jbevren | that doesnt surprise me at all |
| 14:47.32 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: you saw one? nice |
| 14:47.37 | kergoth | god i love user mode linux |
| 14:48.32 | kergoth | saves me _so_ much time |
| 14:51.03 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah, the nokia guys were happy to boast... :) |
| 14:52.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 14:54.07 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: oh cool |
| 14:55.41 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: we will be at Linux Expo UK in early oct and I think are allowed to demo our proto's :) |
| 14:55.47 | CosmicPenguin | Nice |
| 14:56.16 | CosmicPenguin | I tell everybody that you guys did the UI - I mean, its cool and stuff that Nokia did the hardware, but... :) |
| 14:57.59 | sorphin | ~lart ACE |
| 15:01.05 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 15:02.00 | sorphin | jbevren: good news, i can talk to the ACE server |
| 15:02.13 | sorphin | jbevren: bad news, it's talking back, but it has nothing to say but Access Denied |
| 15:02.29 | CosmicPenguin | I applied for a SecurID, but its on hold, because our damn staff doesn't have any in stock |
| 15:02.33 | CosmicPenguin | s/any/any tokesn/ |
| 15:02.43 | jbevren | sorphin: doh |
| 15:02.44 | CosmicPenguin | How stupid is that? |
| 15:04.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 15:04.58 | sorphin | i'm the keeper of the tokens here |
| 15:05.51 | CosmicPenguin | "Hey, lets only buy five at a time, since we're a technology company, and people don't travel" |
| 15:06.20 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:06.23 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:06.26 | pb_ | hi zecke__ |
| 15:06.26 | sorphin | we buy boxes of them |
| 15:06.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: but then |
| 15:06.43 | sorphin | our network requires them for access |
| 15:07.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: We should be giving them to all new employees automatically |
| 15:07.27 | CosmicPenguin | I know they're expensive, but not *that* expensive |
| 15:07.31 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:07.41 | sorphin | they won't order the 30 second ones anymore |
| 15:07.47 | sorphin | so those are a rare commodity |
| 15:07.53 | sorphin | i have one left that was shipped back |
| 15:07.57 | CosmicPenguin | Here's you new thousand dollar PC on your desk, but we're not going to give you an 80 dollar token because we're trying to save money |
| 15:07.58 | sorphin | and of course i have one |
| 15:08.06 | sorphin | yeah |
| 15:08.35 | sorphin | jbevren: what realy blows |
| 15:08.40 | sorphin | is everything is setup right now |
| 15:08.44 | sorphin | the ipf rules let me in |
| 15:08.56 | sorphin | i'm talking to it, have the sdconf.rec correct |
| 15:08.58 | sorphin | etc |
| 15:09.09 | sorphin | but it's like i'm talking greek to a server that speaks spanish |
| 15:09.39 | sorphin | bad enough i'm having to use an old library for this perl module |
| 15:10.12 | prpplague | i'm sooo confused about this ssl certs and cant seem to find anyone that can help |
| 15:10.14 | prpplague | :( |
| 15:10.23 | sorphin | prpplague: i never use em |
| 15:10.31 | sorphin | least not how you are |
| 15:11.04 | prpplague | sorphin: any usage would be helpful |
| 15:11.12 | prpplague | sorphin: are you using client certs? |
| 15:11.49 | sorphin | prpplague: have, we require them to talk to one particular webserver |
| 15:11.56 | sorphin | if you don't have the right cert |
| 15:12.03 | sorphin | off you go, you'r enot welcome |
| 15:12.07 | prpplague | sorphin: ok so how do you create the client cert? |
| 15:13.54 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm confused on where the client cert actually gets created |
| 15:18.53 | pb_ | prpplague: I just use openssl to create the certificates. |
| 15:19.28 | prpplague | pb_: hehe, thats what everyone keeps saying, but where do you do that? |
| 15:19.42 | prpplague | pb_: for the client cert, are you doing that on the server or on the client? |
| 15:19.50 | pb_ | on the server |
| 15:20.04 | prpplague | pb_: ok so the client cert has to be created on the server |
| 15:20.10 | pb_ | since you need the CA certificate on hand to create the client certs. |
| 15:20.21 | prpplague | pb_: what info from the client do you need to create the cert? |
| 15:20.26 | pb_ | nothing |
| 15:21.02 | prpplague | pb_: hmm, ok i'm confused |
| 15:21.04 | pb_ | it depends on your environment to some extent, but for us the certificates are entirely self-contained, and don't depend on any attribute of the client. |
| 15:21.14 | prpplague | pb_: then how does that uniquely identify your client? |
| 15:21.29 | pb_ | prpplague: each client gets its own certificate, and we rely on clients not to swap certs amongst themselves. |
| 15:21.58 | prpplague | pb_: ok, so how do you create a unique certificate? |
| 15:22.58 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: we didn't do all the UI, but 'core'-ish bits |
| 15:23.08 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: heh... :) |
| 15:23.27 | CosmicPenguin | I just shead a tear and go into old guy stories about the early days of SA development |
| 15:23.41 | CosmicPenguin | When men were men, women were women, and tuxscreens were 99 dollars... :) |
| 15:23.49 | kergoth | hah |
| 15:23.51 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:24.19 | kergoth | i actually wasnt around back then, i dont think. tim was just about out by the time i started hanging out in #tuxscreen |
| 15:24.19 | kergoth | ;) |
| 15:24.56 | mallum | ah tuxscreens worth more that 99$ now then ? I still have one boxed :) ? |
| 15:25.16 | prpplague | pb_: it was my understanding that the client created a key which was sent to the server, which then used that key to generate the client cert, and then sent it back to the client |
| 15:25.17 | mallum | I should probably give it to RP |
| 15:25.35 | prpplague | pb_: so you ended up with the CA cert, the client key, and the client cert |
| 15:31.22 | prpplague | pb_: ok think i see the problem |
| 15:31.59 | prpplague | pb_: i was under the impression that a private key was specific to the machine it was created on |
| 15:32.24 | prpplague | pb_: as long as you have the matching public key, you can use it on any machine, is that correct? |
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| 15:37.36 | file | food? FOOD |
| 15:42.48 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.simpc.com/meerinfo.php |
| 15:42.54 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone know whats on the inside of that? |
| 15:43.08 | kergoth | goddamn i hate monotone |
| 15:44.05 | file | eep |
| 15:44.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:44.43 | sorphin | try freshmeat? |
| 15:44.44 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:45.16 | prpplague | yea me too |
| 15:46.02 | prpplague | which means i'll need to include it in my rootfs |
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| 15:48.35 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you usually know these things.... remember the Stanford Checker they used to use on the kernel? |
| 15:48.42 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: they went commercial, but I can't remember the name of the commercial entity |
| 15:49.02 | CosmicPenguin | I know sjhill knows, because they demoed it, but he's not here... :) |
| 15:51.10 | kergoth | umm.. shit.. i used to know.. *thinks* |
| 15:55.41 | CosmicPenguin | Coverity - isn't it? |
| 16:25.52 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh crap |
| 16:26.03 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: you probably didn't hear from me because fcskin' freenode |
| 16:26.07 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart freenode |
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| 16:26.23 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: i'm tailorizing the oe monotone repo into svn as we speak :D |
| 16:26.41 | file | no more Monday to Sunday technical support! |
| 16:26.45 | kergoth | yay |
| 16:26.52 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: how frickin cool |
| 16:26.57 | CosmicPenguin | I'm here to help any way I can |
| 16:27.06 | file | Monday to Friday 9-5 technical support on phone, with extended support available after hours/weekends via e-mail |
| 16:27.14 | kergoth | at the very least we can maintain an anonymous svn repo for end users to grab oe without fucking with monotone |
| 16:27.21 | kergoth | even if people dont want to switch to hg or svk or whatever |
| 16:28.21 | pb_ | later all |
| 16:29.09 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: that would be nice - I want to set it up internally too |
| 16:29.16 | CosmicPenguin | I should take what you did and add perforce support too |
| 16:29.35 | kergoth | hehe, i didnt actually do it. while i wasnt looking, someone added source support ;) |
| 16:29.40 | kergoth | which works for me |
| 16:29.56 | CosmicPenguin | you could have taken credit.. :) |
| 16:30.01 | CosmicPenguin | nobody would have known the difference |
| 16:32.09 | CosmicPenguin | perforce is pretty nice, but the whole "root" thing is annoying |
| 16:32.17 | CosmicPenguin | If it didn't have that, it would easily be my favorite RCS |
| 16:36.38 | sorphin | btw, for anyoen that has to vpn in to a cisco vpn thing... vpnc works nicely ;) |
| 16:36.40 | kergoth | i've never actually used perforce |
| 16:36.44 | kergoth | just clearcase |
| 16:36.49 | sorphin | kergoth: heh, tivo uses perforce |
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| 16:42.50 | CosmicPenguin | perforce shares many characteristics with bitbake |
| 16:42.53 | CosmicPenguin | s/bitbake/bitkeeper/ |
| 16:43.09 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I'm conditioned to type 'bake' after 'bit'.. :) |
| 16:43.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:45.45 | kergoth | i should get oe emitting a rootfs thats exactly like the current one we're using from snapgear |
| 16:45.55 | kergoth | their library and package versions and patchsets |
| 16:46.06 | kergoth | for the existing product.. cant switch to an oe style rootfs til the next one |
| 16:46.44 | kergoth | yay |
| 16:49.23 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:49.25 | CosmicPenguin | I've been there |
| 16:52.14 | CosmicPenguin | Well, you don't know what you have until its gone |
| 16:52.23 | kergoth | no kidding. i miss bk |
| 16:52.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:52.51 | sorphin | ~cluebat prpplague |
| 16:52.52 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps prpplague. |
| 16:52.58 | sorphin | snap out of it hillbilly |
| 16:53.08 | prpplague | sorphin: i need some clear docs |
| 16:53.19 | sorphin | prpplague: there are none that i'm aware of/have ever seen |
| 16:53.20 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:53.30 | prpplague | sorphin: figures |
| 16:53.39 | file | I'm convincing my coworker we should drop asterisk for authentication and stuff |
| 16:53.56 | sorphin | file: uhhh |
| 16:53.59 | file | I'm winning! |
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| 16:54.14 | kergoth | file: why? |
| 16:54.18 | prpplague | sorphin: i see all the commands and file names, but can't figure out what's suppose ot be done where |
| 16:54.19 | file | because it can't handle our load |
| 16:54.27 | kergoth | i mean, whats the better option? |
| 16:54.31 | file | SER |
| 16:54.35 | file | we're switching to SIP |
| 16:54.37 | file | heavily. |
| 16:54.42 | CosmicPenguin | I thought you hated SIP? |
| 16:54.55 | file | CosmicPenguin: it'll scale a lot more |
| 16:55.02 | file | and has better compatibility |
| 16:55.07 | kergoth | ah |
| 16:55.10 | kergoth | SER seems nice |
| 16:55.17 | file | we reached the tipping point on Asterisk with IAX2 |
| 16:55.41 | file | plus I'm trying to take load off of our MSSQL server |
| 16:55.47 | sorphin | ewww |
| 16:55.51 | sorphin | MSSQL |
| 16:55.52 | prpplague | sorphin: does a certificate request have to be signed by the ca server, or can you sign it as long as you have the root ca cert? |
| 16:55.55 | sorphin | use a real DB ;) |
| 16:56.03 | file | sorphin: it is a real DB |
| 16:56.09 | file | it's the only one that can handle our load, except for Oracle |
| 16:56.13 | sorphin | prpplague: you're the ca server (as it were) |
| 16:56.19 | prpplague | sorphin: ? |
| 16:56.21 | sorphin | it doens't ened to be signed by a REAL ca |
| 16:56.21 | file | but we're cheap. |
| 16:56.37 | sorphin | just by your ca cert |
| 16:56.40 | prpplague | sorphin: are you saying i have to run as a ca on the client as well? |
| 16:56.41 | kergoth | whee, c hecking in a 1.1 gig snapgear tree into svn |
| 16:56.45 | sorphin | no |
| 16:56.50 | prpplague | sorphin: ? |
| 16:56.58 | sorphin | prpplague: you sign it on the server w/ the ca cert |
| 16:57.05 | sorphin | the client doesn't sign anything |
| 16:57.12 | prpplague | sorphin: ok thats what i was asking |
| 16:57.27 | prpplague | sorphin: so the server has to sign the client cert |
| 16:57.30 | sorphin | yes |
| 16:58.15 | prpplague | sorphin: so is there a tool for submitting a client cert to the server via the ssl port? |
| 16:58.22 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - so we were at the bar on Sunday night, and we couldn't remember who founded Microsoft with gates |
| 16:58.25 | sorphin | uhhh |
| 16:58.29 | CosmicPenguin | so we ended up SMSing gogle |
| 16:58.29 | sorphin | prpplague: you run a script |
| 16:58.34 | CosmicPenguin | s/gogle/google/ |
| 16:58.35 | sorphin | you don't need to submit anything |
| 16:58.38 | CosmicPenguin | thats a pretty cool interface |
| 16:58.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 16:58.50 | prpplague | sorphin: what script is that? |
| 16:58.52 | file | CosmicPenguin: geek. |
| 16:59.10 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm you just said that the cert has to be signed by the server? |
| 16:59.38 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah it is pretty cool |
| 16:59.43 | kergoth | hmm, does google have a WAP page? |
| 17:00.01 | file | probably, they have a mobile page too... |
| 17:00.04 | prpplague | kergoth: suppose to, i see it advertised at the airport all the time |
| 17:00.12 | file | for low bandwidth devices like my Pocket PC |
| 17:00.17 | sorphin | prpplague: *sigh* |
| 17:00.24 | sorphin | prpplague: it has ot be signed by the CA cert |
| 17:00.38 | sorphin | doesnt' have to BE a physical server signing it |
| 17:00.54 | sorphin | prpplague: you've seen this sort, right? http://sial.org/howto/openssl/ca/ |
| 17:00.54 | T`2 | kergoth, i think so.. wap.google.com gets me somthing |
| 17:01.03 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, clear as mud |
| 17:01.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:01.16 | sorphin | prpplague: drink more beer then |
| 17:01.23 | prpplague | sorphin: let me give you the layout |
| 17:01.28 | T`2 | prpplague, really! i didn't ever see a google ad! |
| 17:01.46 | prpplague | sorphin: winblows server running the CA , linux handheld |
| 17:01.58 | prpplague | sorphin: linux handhelds needs to have a client cert |
| 17:02.06 | prpplague | sorphin: how the hell does it get there? |
| 17:02.21 | sorphin | prpplague: can you get the CA cert from hte windows box to a linux box? |
| 17:02.23 | prpplague | T`2: was in concourse H of miami |
| 17:02.25 | T`2 | file, lemme guess.. u run windows ;) |
| 17:02.39 | file | T`2: ah well, not totally |
| 17:02.50 | file | OSX, 64-bit XP Pro, and 32-bit XP Pro |
| 17:02.51 | T`2 | file, j/k... linux clients are supposed to implode |
| 17:02.53 | file | :P |
| 17:02.57 | prpplague | sorphin: i have a CA cert from windows box, thats as far as i can |
| 17:03.06 | prpplague | sorphin: don't understand what needs to go where |
| 17:03.08 | T`2 | prpplague, coool :) |
| 17:03.17 | kergoth | hmm, wonder when these drives will ship |
| 17:03.19 | kergoth | ordered two of http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1093378 |
| 17:03.39 | kergoth | should really pick up a few more and set up a raid 5 |
| 17:03.41 | T`2 | they had some serious deals on HDDs at frys this weekend |
| 17:04.07 | sorphin | prpplague: well, you have the ca cert, you can sign with it on a linux box or a solaris box, it doesn't matter, the cert just gets used by ca for the signing |
| 17:04.39 | sorphin | prpplague: wtf format is your ca cert in? |
| 17:04.48 | prpplague | sorphin: i thought the ca cert was already signed |
| 17:04.52 | sorphin | grr |
| 17:04.58 | sorphin | read what i said |
| 17:05.13 | sorphin | i said sign _with_ it |
| 17:05.15 | sorphin | not sign it |
| 17:05.54 | sorphin | kergoth`food: that sounds like a good idea |
| 17:06.23 | prpplague | sorphin: which seems to answer my earlier question, as long as i have the CA cert from the server on my linux box, i can use it to sign my new cert request |
| 17:06.25 | T`2 | is it advisable to do raid5 in software? |
| 17:06.28 | prpplague | sorphin: is that correct? |
| 17:06.33 | sorphin | prpplague: yes |
| 17:06.43 | sorphin | T`: not if you want performance ;) |
| 17:07.00 | prpplague | "sorphin: does a certificate request have to be signed by the ca server, or can you sign it as long as you have the root ca cert?" |
| 17:07.07 | T`2 | heh ok |
| 17:07.30 | sorphin | prpplague: and as i've said, a 'server' is irrelevant |
| 17:07.42 | prpplague | sorphin: what do you mean? |
| 17:07.43 | sorphin | you could sign the damn thing on the juicebox |
| 17:07.53 | sorphin | as long as you have openssl and the ca cert |
| 17:08.03 | prpplague | sorphin: which is what i was asking |
| 17:08.28 | sorphin | well, is the mud clearing? |
| 17:08.29 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:09.01 | prpplague | sorphin: is clearer, but not pottable yet |
| 17:09.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:09.54 | sorphin | lunch |
| 17:14.44 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, says i need a CA private key as well as the ca cert |
| 17:24.11 | kergoth`food | mm, the arbys market fresh sandwiches arent bad |
| 17:34.31 | jbevren | I like the ham one |
| 17:34.37 | kergoth`food | thats what i got :) good stuff |
| 17:38.53 | kergoth | hmm... motorola razr v3 w/ cingular service from amazon for free after $150 mail in rebate |
| 17:47.31 | T`2 | wow.. good deal |
| 17:47.56 | kergoth | yeah, i'm really tempted. sick of my old nokia 3650, and my contract w/ t-mobile is up |
| 17:56.38 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:56.40 | jbevren | get it, get it |
| 17:56.42 | jbevren | :-D |
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| 18:23.12 | kergoth | whew, this tailor is taking forever |
| 18:24.28 | sorphin | cingular has shite service around here |
| 18:24.43 | sorphin | and i'm not impressed by the "razr" |
| 18:25.17 | kergoth | i keep hearing bad things in reviews |
| 18:25.25 | kergoth | i just need a good clamshell phone with bt |
| 18:25.27 | kergoth | gsm |
| 18:25.41 | sorphin | blech bluetooth |
| 18:26.04 | kergoth | aw, the tailor died.. one of the svn add's failed |
| 18:26.05 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:26.06 | sorphin | why gsm? not like you're ever going overseas ;) |
| 18:26.20 | kergoth | heh, i've been considering it |
| 18:26.39 | T`2 | kergoth, i have good experience with nokia |
| 18:26.49 | file[muon] | gah dang it |
| 18:27.13 | kergoth | yeah, me too. i used to have a 5100 back in the day, and currently have a 3650.. getting tired of the non-clamshell formfactor though |
| 18:27.13 | sorphin | file[laptop]: pottymouth |
| 18:27.31 | kergoth | though i have to say, the ability to replace the frontpanel with different colors and patterns is nice |
| 18:27.36 | sorphin | uh |
| 18:27.41 | sorphin | if you care how your phone looks |
| 18:27.51 | file[muon] | I can't get David to go to the data center until like next Thursday |
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| 18:36.33 | Genesis | re |
| 18:43.08 | file[muon] | ... |
| 18:50.45 | prpplague | sorphin: hey, i think i figured out what is confusing me |
| 18:51.10 | prpplague | sorphin: looks like i need to run the handhelds as a ca authority as well as the server |
| 18:51.41 | prpplague | sorphin: from what i'm reading about EAP-TLS both the client and server have to exchange public keys |
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| 19:09.27 | prpplague | sorphin: still around crack baby/ |
| 19:09.31 | prpplague | sorphin: / |
| 19:09.37 | prpplague | argh freakin key stuck |
| 19:14.42 | CosmicPenguin | uh huh |
| 19:29.32 | jbevren | lol |
| 19:29.34 | jbevren | stickey keys |
| 19:29.39 | jbevren | we wont inquire the reason |
| 19:33.30 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, I didn't even think about that |
| 19:34.18 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:45.01 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: hit a bug in tailor, made an assumption about monotone that wasn't correct. i think its fixed now, and its running again from scratch.. |
| 19:45.03 | kergoth | really time consuming. |
| 19:45.10 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 19:47.22 | prpplague | hmm, i wonder why they don't sell the giant altoids tin any more |
| 19:47.56 | prpplague | wonder if its only available during xmas |
| 19:51.26 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... altoids gum |
| 19:54.44 | fishhead | http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/06/denver.obit.ap/index.html |
| 19:54.48 | fishhead | giligan :( |
| 20:03.25 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/77130/sony-intros-first-smart-camera.html |
| 20:03.26 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:37.33 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart groklaw |
| 20:48.27 | sorphin | prpplague: work work work |
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| 21:27.41 | zinosat | hi, I spent the last few days building a powerpc toolchain: anybody know how can I change the version string (gcc --version)? I tried to change gcc/version.c but it gives me "2.95.3" |
| 21:31.29 | sorphin | uhh |
| 21:31.35 | sorphin | you wanna lie about your compiler version? |
| 21:31.46 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what I was thinking |
| 21:31.48 | kergoth | he probably just wants to add an extra string to the version |
| 21:31.53 | kergoth | 2.95.3-mybuild |
| 21:31.55 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 21:32.01 | kergoth | to make that particular patchset obvious |
| 21:32.07 | sorphin | doesn't it pull that from an after build config file? |
| 21:32.16 | kergoth | i could see doing that if i wanted my csl vs non-csl builds to be obvious |
| 21:32.19 | sorphin | like in /usr/lib/gcc-lib or whatever |
| 21:32.37 | kergoth | ah good point, maybe its in the specs |
| 21:32.47 | CosmicPenguin | gcc -v on my system shows all sorts of extra version information - so it must be easy enough to do in the Gentoo .ebuild |
| 21:32.49 | sorphin | right |
| 21:32.50 | sorphin | the specs file |
| 21:32.52 | CosmicPenguin | unless they download a patch |
| 21:33.24 | sorphin | *cross_compile: |
| 21:33.24 | sorphin | 0 |
| 21:33.24 | sorphin | *version: |
| 21:33.24 | sorphin | 3.2.1 |
| 21:33.30 | sorphin | in the specs file |
| 21:33.37 | sorphin | zinosat: try changing it there |
| 21:34.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:34.08 | kergoth | that cross_compile value.. |
| 21:34.12 | kergoth | the logic that generates it is wrong |
| 21:34.16 | kergoth | if you do a canadian cross |
| 21:34.18 | kergoth | bastards |
| 21:34.46 | zinosat | oh, here I am... well I tried to change it so I can recognize which test version I am running... no interest in cheating :) |
| 21:35.22 | sorphin | zinosat: find the specs file it generates |
| 21:35.26 | sorphin | try changing it in there |
| 21:35.31 | zinosat | I've built both gcc2.95.3 and gcc-4.0.1 on a cygwin host targeting powerpc-eabi |
| 21:36.09 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... I've always wondered how to wire gcc not to use as |
| 21:36.18 | CosmicPenguin | You learn something new every day |
| 21:36.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so.. i'll trade you a securid for that alchemy board *grin* |
| 21:37.03 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:37.13 | sorphin | sorry, had to |
| 21:37.15 | zinosat | I did not try to change version.c with gcc-4.0.1, but in 2.95.3 it was something like "2.95.3 some-date" and after I changed it to "2.95.3 my build1" gcc --version gave me "2.95.3" |
| 21:37.27 | sorphin | zinosat: don't try version.c |
| 21:37.33 | sorphin | build your gcc |
| 21:37.36 | CosmicPenguin | dear IT - forget my request, I'll get my own damn SecurID, love Jordan |
| 21:37.37 | sorphin | find the file called 'specs' |
| 21:37.50 | sorphin | find the line that says *version: |
| 21:37.54 | sorphin | edit |
| 21:37.56 | sorphin | install |
| 21:38.11 | zinosat | sorphin, yes, thanx: obviously I've to change it before compiling roght? |
| 21:38.17 | sorphin | no |
| 21:38.22 | sorphin | after |
| 21:38.29 | sorphin | the specs file is created after gcc is built |
| 21:38.43 | zinosat | oops, iirc I try to change specs a while ago and it did not work |
| 21:38.49 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:38.50 | sorphin | well |
| 21:38.58 | sorphin | somehow |
| 21:39.02 | sorphin | debian got theirs to say |
| 21:39.03 | sorphin | gcc version 3.2.1 20021111 (Debian prerelease) |
| 21:39.03 | zinosat | it was an old binary toolchain |
| 21:39.21 | zinosat | sorphin, I looked at debian/rules last night but I got lost |
| 21:39.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:39.31 | sorphin | that's easy to do |
| 21:39.37 | kergoth | indeed |
| 21:39.45 | sorphin | i like debian |
| 21:39.46 | CosmicPenguin | gcc driver version 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1) executing gcc version 3.3.5-20050130-foo |
| 21:39.47 | CosmicPenguin | Worked for me |
| 21:40.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:40.28 | zinosat | CosmicPenguin, you mean you changed the specs file? |
| 21:40.30 | sorphin | worked here too |
| 21:40.32 | sorphin | gcc driver version 3.2.1 20021111 (Debian prerelease) executing gcc version 3.2.1-CosmicPenguin-sucks |
| 21:40.33 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah |
| 21:40.42 | CosmicPenguin | See? gcc is always wrong |
| 21:40.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:40.46 | zinosat | it might be different with old 2.95.x |
| 21:40.47 | sorphin | ;) |
| 21:40.59 | sorphin | zinosat: you changed the installed specs file? |
| 21:41.05 | zinosat | wait, my waoody chroot should have 2.95 |
| 21:41.06 | sorphin | zinosat: when you type gcc -v |
| 21:41.21 | sorphin | does it say "reading specs from..." ? |
| 21:41.44 | zinosat | sorphin, I think I changed the installed specs when I tried |
| 21:41.47 | sorphin | kergoth: link don't work |
| 21:41.55 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:42.00 | sorphin | zinosat: lemme try on one of my cross compile chains (2.95.3) |
| 21:42.12 | sorphin | kergoth: i tried http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=116371 |
| 21:42.14 | sorphin | and it didn't work |
| 21:42.16 | kergoth | weird |
| 21:42.22 | sorphin | wtf is it? |
| 21:42.23 | CosmicPenguin | Ohhh... purty |
| 21:42.25 | kergoth | enter 'nokia 6260' in the search box and click on the black one |
| 21:42.27 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if Verizon supports it |
| 21:42.44 | kergoth | its an unlocked GSM phone. i dont think verizon is gsm, i think they're cdma |
| 21:43.01 | sorphin | they are cdma |
| 21:43.02 | sorphin | i have them |
| 21:43.08 | CosmicPenguin | They have GSM too, don't they? |
| 21:43.11 | sorphin | no |
| 21:43.15 | sorphin | just cdma |
| 21:43.23 | sorphin | but |
| 21:43.29 | zinosat | sorphin, I'm sure I tried "gcc --version" and not "gcc -v"... |
| 21:43.38 | sorphin | zinosat: use gcc -v :P |
| 21:43.52 | sorphin | taht's what the rest of the world uses ;) |
| 21:44.02 | zinosat | sorphin, tomorrow I'll try at work... it might be there :) |
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| 21:44.21 | kergoth | sorphin: what annoys me is even within gsm the us/canada deviates, using non-standard frequencies like 850 |
| 21:44.22 | kergoth | its weird |
| 21:44.48 | sorphin | zinosat: fyi |
| 21:44.50 | sorphin | [root@giga /usr/local/powerpc-linux/bin]# ./gcc -v |
| 21:44.50 | sorphin | Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/2.95.3/specs |
| 21:44.51 | sorphin | gcc driver version 2.95.3 20010315 (release) executing gcc version 2.95.3-thisisforzinosat |
| 21:45.09 | zinosat | sorphin, cool :))) |
| 21:45.24 | sorphin | gcc --version |
| 21:45.27 | sorphin | doesnt' read the specs file |
| 21:45.33 | sorphin | gcc -v does |
| 21:45.40 | sorphin | so use gcc -v :) |
| 21:45.44 | sorphin | and everyone's happy |
| 21:45.47 | sorphin | gota go |
| 21:45.49 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, the Treo supports both |
| 21:45.53 | sorphin | gotta pick up my $14,000 check :P |
| 21:46.00 | zinosat | sorphin, mmm... one day I'll play again with that |
| 21:48.30 | zinosat | another question: I tried to recompile an old prj with gcc 4.0.1 and it failed badly. I got it compiled after changing the link process as to use powerpc-eabi-g++ in place of ld and after adding some sections to the linker script.Is there a sort of guide about gcc migration? |
| 21:48.43 | CosmicPenguin | I would go with T-mobile, but I'm worried about the coverage out here in the wild wild west |
| 21:49.14 | CosmicPenguin | zinosat: it sounds like you were using the wrong ld |
| 21:49.19 | CosmicPenguin | but your toolchain found the right one |
| 21:49.39 | zinosat | the project now compiles but fails to run because I spread sections everywhere.... |
| 21:50.30 | zinosat | CosmicPenguin, with 2.95.3 I did not use libstdc++, now I have to use it |
| 21:51.17 | zinosat | CosmicPenguin, 2.95.3 was happy with -lgcc -lc, gcc-4.0.1 is not |
| 21:52.34 | kergoth | ld doesnt implicitly link anything. g++ does, it pulls in stdc++. in old versions, you could get away with linking c++ code with gcc if you didnt use stdc++, but that's no longer the case. |
| 21:52.54 | kergoth | if you're building, say, a qt app that doesnt use the stl, you need to either link with g++, or gcc and have a -lsupc++ |
| 21:52.56 | CosmicPenguin | There you go - from a guy who knows what he is talking about |
| 21:54.14 | zinosat | kergoth, thanx, is there any tutorial or such about this? I always thought there's a sort of magic behind this stuff |
| 21:54.53 | kergoth | the gcc changelog? ;) |
| 21:54.56 | kergoth | not that i know of |
| 21:55.17 | zinosat | about libraries like stdc++ |
| 21:55.33 | kergoth | i'd advise always linking with gcc rather than g++, and explicitly link the libraries you need. relying on things happening implicitly never seems to be a very good idea |
| 21:55.40 | kergoth | but thats just imho |
| 21:56.04 | zinosat | kergoth, ok, I got to do that after googling and getting lost |
| 21:56.09 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:56.36 | zinosat | I put my hands on those things about 3 years ago and seems like i erased my brain |
| 21:57.03 | zinosat | I can't believe I did write that bloody linker script from scratch |
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| 22:05.02 | file[muon] | yay the FBI just called |
| 22:08.24 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:08.44 | file[muon] | "you must turn over all information about this client." |
| 22:10.34 | T`2 | file[muon], u can't say that on freenode! u know sorphin is affiliated with the FBI ! |
| 22:11.01 | file[muon] | oh noooooo |
| 22:11.10 | T`2 | cya after 25 years buddy |
| 22:58.03 | sorphin | T`2: no i'm not, but we have been subpeona'd but them |
| 22:58.45 | CosmicPenguin | Doh - dresden is not on google maps |
| 23:03.14 | sorphin | hehe |
| 23:03.24 | sorphin | it's AMD classified ;) |
| 23:03.54 | sorphin | but i've never even seen nor played said game |
| 23:03.57 | sorphin | and likely never will |
| 23:05.26 | CosmicPenguin | our admin got me on a direct flight to frankfurt from Denver, and I got an extra day in dresden on saturday |
| 23:06.17 | CosmicPenguin | Time to do some mad sightseeing |
| 23:06.24 | CosmicPenguin | siteseeing even |
| 23:06.33 | sorphin | cool |
| 23:06.38 | sorphin | :) |
| 23:07.37 | CosmicPenguin | I cut my total flight time down from 11 hours to 9 |
| 23:09.01 | CosmicPenguin | ~mallum |
| 23:09.02 | ibot | i guess mallum is author of matchbox and xkbd and stuff or famous, see http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5966737838.html or available in handy icon form: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/meico.png or an insane person, or "he also worked with nokia on this http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8608661173.html" |
| 23:09.18 | CosmicPenguin | seesh |
| 23:09.31 | CosmicPenguin | too cool for an e-mail address, I guess |
| 23:15.10 | sorphin | heh |
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