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| 01:29.30 | SarahEmm | heylo |
| 01:29.52 | fishhead | hey CANUCKette |
| 01:30.15 | SarahEmm | heya fishHEAD |
| 01:31.14 | jacques | JTAG ? |
| 01:31.24 | fishhead | JTAG OWNS YOUR CANUCK |
| 01:31.42 | fishhead | sarahemm did you see the url I pasted earlier |
| 01:31.49 | fishhead | about the new plc/fpga hybrid |
| 01:31.56 | fishhead | http://seminar2.techonline.com/registration/distrib.cgi?s=649&d=30 |
| 01:32.05 | fishhead | sorry PLD/FPGA |
| 01:32.19 | SarahEmm | jacques: yeah, i'll have to. |
| 01:32.23 | SarahEmm | jacques: just reading the wiki on how to how |
| 01:32.29 | SarahEmm | err the second how should read now. |
| 01:32.49 | SarahEmm | no i didn't fishhead, but thanks |
| 01:33.23 | jacques | I'm glad to hear people are still using the tuxscreens |
| 01:34.00 | sorphin | SarahEmm: it's actually not that hard.. and if you happen to have a parallel port that's 3.3v it's even easier |
| 01:34.06 | sorphin | jacques: hola mr miata |
| 01:35.28 | SarahEmm | jacques: heh :) |
| 01:35.31 | SarahEmm | sorphin: i don't, afaik. |
| 01:35.43 | sorphin | SarahEmm: my athlon's port is 3.3v |
| 01:35.55 | SarahEmm | ahh |
| 01:36.05 | SarahEmm | my xilinx jtag interface might help me. |
| 01:36.23 | sorphin | dunno |
| 01:36.34 | SarahEmm | have to play with it later. |
| 01:36.43 | sorphin | jacques: my tuxes are being used to hold the shape of the boxes they're packed in ;) |
| 01:37.29 | SarahEmm | mine is useful as a paperweight right now. |
| 01:37.35 | SarahEmm | possibly as a load on a power supply too |
| 01:37.45 | SarahEmm | or to heat up very small spaces by a very small amount. |
| 01:37.54 | sorphin | they're fairly easy to unbrick |
| 01:38.00 | sorphin | easier than my Zaurus :P |
| 01:38.05 | SarahEmm | yeah it looks fairly easy. |
| 01:38.13 | sorphin | thankfully i wasn't too bad off on that tho |
| 01:39.02 | SarahEmm | yeah, looks easy. just solder in a header, hang it off your parport with some buffers, and reflash it |
| 01:39.11 | SarahEmm | and it's a nice standard header |
| 01:39.29 | sorphin | and if the port is 3.3, buffers aren't really mandatory |
| 01:39.38 | sorphin | unless you have lots of parallel port surges :P |
| 01:39.48 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 01:39.59 | SarahEmm | buffering it should be easy anyway |
| 01:40.22 | SarahEmm | hopefully this is the last time i brick it so i'll prolly just mount the header the other way |
| 01:40.41 | SarahEmm | hrm |
| 01:40.45 | sorphin | ? |
| 01:40.51 | SarahEmm | the holes look plated through, i might not even need a header, heh |
| 01:41.08 | sorphin | it's easier with one |
| 01:41.20 | SarahEmm | hopefully i only have to do this once ;) |
| 01:41.24 | sorphin | unless you can guarantee you'll never brick it again ;) |
| 01:41.29 | SarahEmm | i hadn't up to now |
| 01:41.43 | SarahEmm | and i've been playing with it trying to get a good kernel and wifi and SIP/IAX stuff on there for awhile |
| 01:41.51 | sorphin | ah |
| 01:42.16 | SarahEmm | i accidently did 'erase blob' instead of 'erase ramdisk' tho.. and for some reason couldn't get a new blob to xdownload |
| 01:42.43 | SarahEmm | not sure what changed heh |
| 01:42.55 | sorphin | alignment of the planets? |
| 01:42.56 | sorphin | who knows |
| 01:43.00 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 01:43.07 | SarahEmm | it'd been idle for about 6mos, so who knows. |
| 01:43.15 | sorphin | maybe it rusted out ;p |
| 01:43.18 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 01:43.21 | sorphin | :) |
| 01:43.32 | sorphin | or the electrons all ran away |
| 01:43.36 | sorphin | could be anything |
| 01:43.39 | SarahEmm | the card works in my laptop |
| 01:43.41 | SarahEmm | so it's not the card |
| 01:43.57 | SarahEmm | i likely changed something just before i got sidetracked onto another project that broke it, and forgot what i changed |
| 01:44.23 | sorphin | yeah |
| 01:45.28 | file | SarahEmm: I'm working on app_dial, shoot me now - PLEASE |
| 01:45.59 | file | yay |
| 01:46.22 | sorphin | file: suggestion on box usage? |
| 01:46.37 | file | uh, hrm... dunno |
| 01:48.08 | SarahEmm | file: heh |
| 01:48.21 | SarahEmm | file: hey, file is here too |
| 01:48.29 | SarahEmm | i was just going to say 'wow, i didn't recognise sorphin from asterisk' |
| 01:49.29 | file | hehe |
| 01:49.50 | SarahEmm | meow |
| 01:54.41 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:55.43 | sorphin | i.e. people i could live w/o harrassing me, and hence increasing my /ignore list |
| 01:56.53 | SarahEmm | sorphin: err.. recognise? |
| 01:57.19 | sorphin | wasn't refering to you |
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| 01:58.16 | SarahEmm | *Confuzzled kitrich look* |
| 01:58.17 | SarahEmm | okay |
| 01:58.52 | file | sorphin and I used to dislike eachother, but we've come to an understanding |
| 01:59.08 | sorphin | file: yes, that someone else in the channel is worse ;) |
| 01:59.36 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 01:59.38 | SarahEmm | okay |
| 02:00.35 | file | I really don't want to have to rewrite the PBX core to make this work like I want |
| 02:00.48 | sorphin | file: hit it with a very large hammer then |
| 02:01.37 | file | SarahEmm: you should go look at my messaging branch, espically the text chatroom app |
| 02:01.59 | file | http://quark.file-radio.com/asterisk |
| 02:03.04 | SarahEmm | *nods* will do :) |
| 02:03.14 | SarahEmm | right, we've both been working on TEXT stuff right? |
| 02:03.23 | SarahEmm | chatroom an irc-like thing with text on channels? |
| 02:03.25 | file | yes :) |
| 02:03.30 | file | it's simple code |
| 02:03.33 | SarahEmm | *crosses tty conferencing off her list* |
| 02:03.34 | SarahEmm | ;) |
| 02:05.01 | file | my problem right now is, a voice channel and a text channel can be bridged ;) |
| 02:05.06 | sorphin | maybe someday i'll get to build another * box, but who knows wtf that'll be.. |
| 02:05.10 | SarahEmm | ahh file |
| 02:05.29 | file | my devel box is a 2.8GHz Celeron-D |
| 02:05.46 | file | my real PBX is a... AMD Athlon XP 2600+ |
| 02:06.14 | sorphin | it's more the motivation, and what to run it on |
| 02:06.27 | file | meh pick a box |
| 02:06.36 | sorphin | file: i meant os/distro |
| 02:06.48 | file | Debian is easy enough :P |
| 02:07.15 | sorphin | and 20 years behind, which is why my boxes are more custom than debian anymore |
| 02:07.27 | file | I'm getting rid of my server here at home... |
| 02:07.38 | sorphin | why? |
| 02:07.45 | file | getting drive rails from Dell so I can use the hardrives in my Dell... then putting mail on one of my dedicated servers |
| 02:07.52 | file | because right now I have all my files distributed across everything |
| 02:07.59 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:08.05 | file | and mail can go remotely so I can access it easier |
| 02:08.24 | file | plus all these hardrives are overheating and failing ;) |
| 02:08.42 | sorphin | then stop using MAxtors and seagate medalists ;) |
| 02:08.58 | file | the SCSI one just keeps on going, I luv it |
| 02:09.06 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:09.11 | file | I love SCSI |
| 02:09.13 | sorphin | mewp has a rather noisy 18G scsi drive |
| 02:09.26 | file | it's like, I always get a 40MB/sec transfer rate... IDE is so much slower |
| 02:09.28 | sorphin | when my friend dawn logs in to use her shell, i can hear her login |
| 02:09.33 | fishhead | file wtf are you talking about |
| 02:09.53 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 02:09.54 | fishhead | seagate is much better now btw |
| 02:10.01 | sorphin | my barracuda is quite stable speed wise |
| 02:10.06 | fishhead | medalists = metalPISS |
| 02:10.53 | file | I wish I could run Debian on my dedicated servers |
| 02:11.31 | fishhead | file if you lose scsi |
| 02:11.34 | sorphin | why can't you? |
| 02:11.34 | fishhead | you should see SAS |
| 02:11.43 | file | they won't let me |
| 02:11.53 | fishhead | lsi's port expander silcon turns SAS into fiber channel lite |
| 02:11.55 | fishhead | basically :P |
| 02:11.56 | sorphin | they're your servers right? |
| 02:12.30 | file | they're not colo servers... they're dedicated servers... with preset list of distros you can run |
| 02:12.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:12.49 | sorphin | aka you lease the box from them |
| 02:12.51 | file | yes |
| 02:12.54 | sorphin | blech |
| 02:13.00 | file | in fact the Celeron-D box was supposed to be 2.4GHz |
| 02:13.04 | file | but they were nice and gave me a 2.8GHz CPU |
| 02:13.20 | sorphin | prolly never will |
| 02:13.34 | file | if I want to colo something, work has space at the Equinix place in Virginia |
| 02:13.53 | sorphin | if i wanna colo something, i just take it to work ;) |
| 02:14.08 | file | of course in order to get it coloed I'd have to ship it to David, and whenever he touches something it breaks |
| 02:14.37 | file | "Drone 2 is down!" "Yeah - David touched it." "Oh." |
| 02:14.56 | sorphin | course, it doesn't hurt that we're the core of st louis |
| 02:15.26 | sorphin | maybe i'll take one of the 600s to work, since the stupid black box there i was gonna use, was flakey |
| 02:16.01 | sorphin | nice try |
| 02:16.16 | sorphin | your voice isn't deep enough |
| 02:16.25 | file | true |
| 02:16.39 | file | sorphin: guess what I get! |
| 02:16.41 | sorphin | scared people ;) |
| 02:16.46 | sorphin | file: sick? |
| 02:16.50 | file | nope |
| 02:16.52 | sorphin | file: killed? |
| 02:16.57 | sorphin | file: injured? |
| 02:17.01 | file | a copy of the O'Reilly Asterisk book, with my name in it, signed by all the authors |
| 02:17.10 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:17.32 | file | there is now. |
| 02:17.36 | file | it'll be released in September |
| 02:17.45 | sorphin | only $59.95 :P |
| 02:17.55 | file | $39.95 if you order early! :P |
| 02:18.08 | sorphin | (with 75% going to pay for Mark's Ego) |
| 02:18.23 | file | actually $26.37 |
| 02:21.31 | sorphin | woo, /. = connection refused |
| 02:31.20 | fishhead | yep |
| 02:32.08 | SarahEmm | file: in our currency or foreign currency? |
| 02:32.23 | sorphin | USD prolly :P |
| 02:33.57 | SarahEmm | you could mail it here |
| 02:34.01 | SarahEmm | i'm sure i can 'dispose of' it |
| 02:34.01 | SarahEmm | :) |
| 02:34.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:34.33 | sorphin | no offense, but i'd sooner trust file with my money ;) |
| 02:34.44 | SarahEmm | pffft |
| 02:34.47 | SarahEmm | okay :) |
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| 02:58.24 | sorphin | andersee: hola mr andersen |
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| 12:57.37 | prpplague | anyone able to access linux-hacker.net? |
| 12:58.37 | prpplague | pb_: hey |
| 12:58.58 | prpplague | pb_: how do you guys mount your usb 802.11b sticks inside your products? |
| 13:00.43 | pb_ | we just strap 'em down with a cable tie. |
| 13:01.24 | prpplague | ahh |
| 13:01.35 | prpplague | pb_: hows the range/performance of those? |
| 13:01.59 | prpplague | pb_: we purchase several including the edimax one, and their attenna's were very small |
| 13:02.40 | pb_ | yeah, the antennas are pretty small, but we haven't found that to be much of a problem. |
| 13:02.59 | pb_ | fwiw, the AIN 802.11b ones that we used to use had larger antennas, and the Z-Com XG-760A has a socket for an external antenna. |
| 13:04.14 | prpplague | pb_: ahh cool |
| 13:04.24 | prpplague | pb_: thats one thing we were looking for |
| 13:05.04 | prpplague | pb_: we are planning to remove the usb connector and solder a flex cable instead |
| 13:05.36 | prpplague | pb_: wish we could find a good sdio 802.11 card |
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| 13:05.57 | fishhead | prpp |
| 13:06.01 | fishhead | just the man I wanted to talk to |
| 13:08.43 | prpplague | fishhead: about what? |
| 13:08.51 | fishhead | http://seminar2.techonline.com/registration/distrib.cgi?s=649&d=30 |
| 13:08.58 | fishhead | just wanted you to see that |
| 13:09.10 | fishhead | fpga/pld hybrid |
| 13:09.13 | fishhead | looks neat |
| 13:19.15 | prpplague | pb_: hmm, they only have the specs for the xg-750 posted, wonder what the difference is |
| 13:25.24 | pb_ | http://www.zcom.com.tw/product/product%20info/XG-760A.htm |
| 13:26.36 | prpplague | ahh thanks |
| 13:27.06 | prpplague | pb_: we've been looking at using this http://www.zcom.com.tw/product/product%20info/XG-880MV03.htm |
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| 13:27.37 | pb_ | looks neat |
| 13:27.48 | pb_ | what's the driver situation with the Marvell chip? |
| 13:28.18 | prpplague | pb_: zcom tells use that its full open source, but i was just about to start digging to find out for sure |
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| 13:41.58 | pb_ | ah right, cool |
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| 13:50.07 | jbevren | XG-880M V0.3 is really cool |
| 13:50.13 | jbevren | a SoC with wireless onboard |
| 13:50.15 | jbevren | fun:D |
| 13:57.54 | prpplague | jbevren: spi interface is the kicker |
| 13:58.00 | prpplague | jbevren: easy implementation |
| 14:04.21 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:04.32 | jbevren | spi can drive MMC's right? |
| 14:04.49 | prpplague | yea, mmc/sd |
| 14:04.54 | jbevren | nice :) |
| 14:05.02 | jbevren | just need a gpio for cardselect :) |
| 14:05.26 | prpplague | jbevren: our next handheld design is gonna revolve around spi devices |
| 14:05.36 | prpplague | jbevren: to make all of the parts more modular |
| 14:05.40 | jbevren | who's "our"? :) |
| 14:05.45 | prpplague | jbevren: www.amltd.com |
| 14:06.30 | prpplague | jbevren: keyboard matrix will have a small avr that does the decoding and passes it to the cpu via spi |
| 14:06.46 | prpplague | jacques: the lcd contrast will be a spi dac |
| 14:07.31 | prpplague | jacques: the wireless will be spi |
| 14:07.35 | jbevren | I like the 7170 on the frontpage ;-) |
| 14:07.43 | prpplague | jacques: the sd/mmc will be spi |
| 14:08.17 | prpplague | jacques: yea i like the 7140 and 7170 |
| 14:10.01 | prpplague | jacques: all the linux drivers will be pretty generic so i we can use the same hardware with multiple designs |
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| 14:11.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 14:11.40 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:16.09 | prpplague | hmm, my box is acting a little weird today |
| 14:16.33 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:18.19 | fishhead | http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20050813/etc_fmkey.html |
| 14:20.52 | jbevren | yes but what does it say? |
| 14:20.54 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:22.33 | jbevren | http://www.ko-soku.co.jp/menu_new/cpu_mem_os.gif |
| 14:22.34 | jbevren | lol |
| 14:22.36 | jbevren | memoly |
| 14:22.38 | jbevren | silly asians |
| 14:22.41 | jbevren | I solly! |
| 14:37.27 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:43.27 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 14:43.52 | prpplague | cbrake: hey, ping cole when you get a chance |
| 14:44.35 | cbrake | prpplague: OK, will let him now. |
| 14:44.40 | prpplague | cbrake: thanks |
| 14:44.49 | cbrake | prpplague: what's "progress"? |
| 14:45.39 | prpplague | cbrake: been able to copy code from a homebrew cart into ram and jump to it |
| 14:45.56 | cbrake | prpplague: cool |
| 14:46.06 | prpplague | cbrake: still got a little ways to go |
| 14:46.13 | prpplague | cbrake: but its been very educational |
| 14:46.25 | cbrake | prpplague: nod |
| 14:47.02 | prpplague | cbrake: i expect that withing a couple weeks i should have documented procedures for building your own cart |
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| 14:57.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats cookin? |
| 14:58.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: (read "have you still got a job at AMD?" ) |
| 14:58.16 | CosmicPenguin | As far as I know |
| 14:58.20 | CosmicPenguin | Why, are they laying people off? |
| 14:59.23 | prpplague | not that i know of, just been out of touch for the past week, and just vaguelly remember last week you being upset about work again |
| 14:59.36 | CosmicPenguin | Way to keep on top of things.. :) |
| 14:59.39 | CosmicPenguin | don't you read your e-mail? |
| 15:00.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, yea, did you send me an email? |
| 15:00.10 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 15:00.15 | prpplague | uh ok |
| 15:00.38 | CosmicPenguin | danders@amltd.com |
| 15:00.41 | CosmicPenguin | thats you, right? :) |
| 15:00.44 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:00.54 | prpplague | i don't recall getting one |
| 15:06.41 | prpplague | still looking |
| 15:06.58 | CosmicPenguin | Nice that amltd treats AMD with such respect |
| 15:07.05 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:07.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya wanna re-send it? |
| 15:08.56 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I'll get it out here shortly |
| 15:09.55 | CosmicPenguin | Basically, the gist is that I have to make this the most community involved chip that AMD has ever produced |
| 15:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | I've been told to plan as though I had unlimited resources |
| 15:13.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which chip are we talking about? |
| 15:13.47 | CosmicPenguin | Our new one |
| 15:13.53 | CosmicPenguin | The next generation after Geode LX |
| 15:14.01 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:14.17 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think I'm revealing any secrets if I admit we have a new chip in the pipeline.. :) |
| 15:14.44 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:14.49 | prpplague | x86 based right? |
| 15:14.52 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
| 15:16.32 | prpplague | lovely |
| 15:17.01 | prpplague | its hard for me to get excited about x86 these days, hehe |
| 15:18.26 | prpplague | sorphin: ping |
| 15:19.00 | prpplague | cbrake: tell cole that i have working jtag code if he need some |
| 15:20.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm not asking you to be excited - I'm asking you for advice |
| 15:20.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: OH, heheh |
| 15:20.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but if you're not interested, I'll find other sources of inspiration |
| 15:20.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok then |
| 15:20.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i thought you were wanting to do oss dev work, hehe |
| 15:21.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ie code for hardware |
| 15:21.37 | prpplague | :D |
| 15:22.23 | prpplague | jeeze whats up with elinux.org today |
| 15:23.31 | file[laptop] | can someone try to call me? |
| 15:24.14 | prpplague | what do you want me to call you? |
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| 15:25.16 | file[laptop] | Josh, because that's what I'll answer as on the phone :P |
| 15:26.31 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:26.53 | prpplague | file[laptop]: my voip phone can only make call inside the US |
| 15:27.15 | file[laptop] | it's a US toll-free number |
| 15:27.20 | prpplague | oh ok |
| 15:27.24 | prpplague | i can do that |
| 15:27.37 | file[laptop] | I'm trying to figure out why my call forwarding from downstairs isn't working |
| 15:27.46 | file[laptop] | anyway, 877-278-7565 extension 1001 |
| 15:28.28 | prpplague | 1001 is not a valid extension |
| 15:28.37 | file[laptop] | what? |
| 15:28.55 | prpplague | its telling me that 1001 is not a valid extension |
| 15:29.14 | file[laptop] | bleh one sec |
| 15:29.42 | file[laptop] | maybe this is why... |
| 15:30.13 | prpplague | ok that time it just hung up on me |
| 15:30.34 | file[laptop] | yeah I'm fixing it |
| 15:30.46 | file[laptop] | I'm doing something drastic |
| 15:30.50 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:31.05 | prpplague | file[laptop]: i need to get with you sometime about setting up some voip stuff |
| 15:31.35 | prpplague | file[laptop]: i've got a location which has broadband and several pots |
| 15:31.48 | file[laptop] | try now |
| 15:32.25 | prpplague | file[laptop]: ring |
| 15:33.06 | prpplague | man there was alot of lag on the phone |
| 15:33.20 | prpplague | guess going through several voip conversions can do that |
| 15:33.51 | file[laptop] | oh, yeah |
| 15:34.47 | prpplague | file[laptop]: anyway, i want to be able to call a ph# in the states, it route to a box here in barbados, then when it picks up allow you to enter a local ph# and it use the local pots |
| 15:34.51 | prpplague | file[laptop]: that doable? |
| 15:35.48 | file[laptop] | sure |
| 15:35.54 | file[laptop] | I do that now |
| 15:35.58 | prpplague | file[laptop]: complex? |
| 15:36.04 | file[laptop] | nope |
| 15:36.08 | file[laptop] | illegal? probably |
| 15:36.15 | prpplague | oh |
| 15:36.20 | prpplague | didn't know that |
| 15:36.58 | prpplague | file[laptop]: freakin worst buy gave me a hell of a time buying one of those linksys vonage boxes |
| 15:37.10 | prpplague | file[laptop]: made me register an address for 911 service |
| 15:37.13 | file[laptop] | well, had... |
| 15:37.23 | file[laptop] | I loaned it to someone... wanna buy another |
| 15:37.34 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:39.19 | prpplague | you know, i thought government and laws were suppose to protect you from criminals and unscrupulous people, this first to apply patent stuff is just wrong |
| 15:39.38 | file[laptop] | oh don't even talk about that |
| 15:39.46 | file[laptop] | we're getting sued at work by J2/efax |
| 15:39.49 | file[laptop] | because we do faxing stuff |
| 15:40.03 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 15:40.41 | prpplague | argh, elinux.org appears to be down and i need to do some edits |
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| 16:04.54 | prpplague | argh, why is it when i have the time and desire to update elinux.org wiki, its down |
| 16:05.22 | jbevren | Murphy's law: What can go wrong does. |
| 16:05.31 | jbevren | O'Brien's law: Murphy was an optimist. |
| 16:07.04 | prpplague | anders law: when murphy and o'brien start talking, its time to start drinking |
| 16:08.13 | jbevren | prpplague: elite |
| 16:08.28 | sorphin | prpplague: you needed something spammy? :P |
| 16:08.32 | jbevren | sorphin: any idea why sleep 1 is 4sec long on the ppc? :) |
| 16:08.45 | prpplague | sorphin: hey, how do you guys usually handle complaints about security attacks originating from one of your ips? |
| 16:08.48 | sorphin | jbevren: sw rtc sucks ;) |
| 16:08.53 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:09.01 | jbevren | isnt it fed by a timer though? :P |
| 16:09.18 | sorphin | if it's a sw rtc, the kernel does that |
| 16:09.24 | sorphin | hence why would you need a sw rtc? |
| 16:09.33 | jbevren | cause you need some sort of time reference? |
| 16:10.35 | sorphin | prpplague: uhh.. usually a tkt is opened w/ customer care (if the attackee is a cust too), if not, then it usually get passed to us by one of our peers, or else we catch the outgoign attack via Arbor and nail it |
| 16:10.39 | sorphin | prpplague: why? |
| 16:10.56 | sorphin | jbevren: look at the sw rtc source ? :P |
| 16:11.32 | prpplague | sorphin: i reported an attack from an ip at theplanet.com, a hosting service, and they are acting like they don't even care |
| 16:11.34 | jbevren | sorphin: heh |
| 16:11.50 | sorphin | prpplague: well, some places are incompetent |
| 16:12.13 | prpplague | damit, i wish tim would hurry up and get elinux.org off sourceforge |
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| 16:34.45 | prpplague | wahoo elinux.org is back up |
| 16:35.00 | jbevren | for a few mins at least?:) |
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| 17:06.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jeeze my step-daughters father is being an ass about child support, how lame is that |
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| 17:17.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did you resend that email? |
| 17:19.45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not yet |
| 17:55.55 | CosmicPenguin | from userland |
| 17:56.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is it just a standard register? |
| 17:57.01 | CosmicPenguin | well, its set in the page table |
| 17:57.31 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:57.31 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm..... interesting |
| 17:57.48 | CosmicPenguin | The point is that you specify a certain page (say, kernel heap memory) to be non executable |
| 17:57.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: couldn't you use something like devmem2 for that? |
| 17:57.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: perhaps |
| 17:57.57 | CosmicPenguin | thats a good idea |
| 17:59.42 | CosmicPenguin | Need to figure out how to control the NX bit |
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| 18:16.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: be nice to have a proc entry |
| 18:20.34 | prpplague | oh i see, interesting |
| 18:20.46 | jbevren | no-execute :) |
| 18:51.31 | CosmicPenguin | "For this test, you need to write a buffer overflow exploit" |
| 18:51.33 | CosmicPenguin | mkay boss! |
| 18:51.55 | jbevren | why not just toss some code in a buffer and jump to it? |
| 18:51.57 | jbevren | :) |
| 18:52.58 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the plan - but we need to be able to control it from userland |
| 18:53.16 | CosmicPenguin | Sort of a proof of concept thing - "see, when I turn off NX, "foo" prints, but when I turn it on, it doesn't" |
| 18:53.20 | CosmicPenguin | And then we ship |
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| 20:38.44 | jbevren | Nobody is sad in #eLinux! What a happy channel. :-) |
| 20:38.48 | jbevren | ahh haha hah! |
| 20:39.18 | SarahEmm | err... okay :) |
| 20:39.24 | jbevren | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/elinux.html.gz |
| 20:40.02 | SarahEmm | ahh ehhehe |
| 21:09.13 | Soopaman | for the record |
| 21:09.17 | Soopaman | fuck shit piss sorphin |
| 21:09.19 | Soopaman | :D |
| 21:17.48 | jbevren | TimRiker: contrary, you can spell appreciate :) |
| 21:18.08 | jbevren | Soopaman: yeah, stop saying sorphin. |
| 21:18.35 | TimRiker | jbevren: now, see? that _was_ funny. |
| 21:18.40 | CosmicPenguin | anyone know these guys: http://www.osnation.com/index.php |
| 21:18.43 | jbevren | tim :) |
| 21:18.51 | jbevren | TimRiker: I try, but sadly often fail ;-) |
| 21:19.09 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I'll agree with that |
| 21:21.31 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: Right off the bat, they make claims without backing them up: "Using the Warewulf cluster toolkit and cAos Linux version 2, we have been able to build a package that is far superior then anything in its class." I'm skeptical at best. |
| 21:24.42 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: from what I can tell "guys" == Greg Kurtzer |
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| 21:27.16 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: hmmm... we just met the "executive team" and Greg Kurtzer wasn't one of them |
| 21:35.00 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: it's a scam. join debian and be done with it. ;-) |
| 21:36.42 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: heh |
| 21:36.52 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: you know how *I* feel |
| 21:37.22 | CosmicPenguin | please Lord, let the heat sync be on right |
| 21:37.38 | jbevren | sorry, I was trying to think of something |
| 21:37.44 | TimRiker | =) |
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| 21:39.58 | jbevren | http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/excrement.jpg |
| 21:40.03 | jbevren | (safe for work) rated R for Riker :) |
| 21:40.30 | sorphin | well, that's 1 thing down, 500 to go for the week |
| 21:43.09 | jbevren | wc -l /etc/passwd |
| 21:43.09 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.10 | jbevren | Hm |
| 21:43.17 | jbevren | I think I'll say no more accounts on this server |
| 21:43.37 | Soopaman | TimRiker, sorry about the language before |
| 21:49.55 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:50.15 | CosmicPenguin | you wouldn't be laughing if you knew it had your name in it.. :) |
| 21:50.39 | TimRiker | Soopaman: not a biggie. but thanx. |
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| 21:51.48 | sorphin | GPSFan: hola ken |
| 21:52.44 | SarahEmm | sorphin[mini]: i would have when i was <17 if here existed back then |
| 21:52.54 | SarahEmm | and i knew bout it |
| 21:55.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:56.24 | sorphin | my point tho was, language isn't as big of a deal as it's being made out to be (least to me...) not like we're cursing every other word around here, heh |
| 21:56.49 | sorphin | anyways, since i know i'll be the minor opinion, i'm going home. |
| 21:57.33 | SarahEmm | lol |
| 22:03.44 | CosmicPenguin | I agree with that policy |
| 22:03.53 | CosmicPenguin | We're here to be professionals |
| 22:06.05 | SarahEmm | heh |
| 22:08.44 | CosmicPenguin | mmmmm...... FX-57 |
| 22:08.52 | CosmicPenguin | Now *this* is why I work for AMD.. :) |
| 22:09.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: professionals eh? i'll remember that the next time something gets pasted/said that isn't professional then :P |
| 22:09.44 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: please do, ya DoS findin' web mokey |
| 22:10.22 | CosmicPenguin | monkey even |
| 22:38.31 | GPSFan | sorphin: g'day, antennas arrived today. ;>) |
| 22:39.46 | SarahEmm | ?Clear |
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| 23:10.26 | sjhill | 533KB/s |
| 23:10.28 | sjhill | yummy |
| 23:10.33 | jbevren | :D |
| 23:10.43 | sjhill | i'm on vacation back in Ohio |
| 23:10.55 | sjhill | i'm in the sticks essentially, but the ADSL is incredible |
| 23:11.07 | jbevren | nod |
| 23:11.11 | jbevren | I'm in a town of 700 |
| 23:11.12 | jbevren | hehe |
| 23:11.36 | sjhill | heh |
| 23:11.58 | jbevren | I ended up with 8qt of it |
| 23:12.02 | sjhill | well, i should probably leave the starbucks i'm in and go find my wife |
| 23:12.22 | jbevren | hehe |
| 23:12.28 | jbevren | who needs wifes. |
| 23:12.30 | jbevren | hehe wifes. |
| 23:12.50 | sjhill | either you don't have one or she isn't as awesome as mine :) |
| 23:13.21 | jbevren | Ive been single 10 years |
| 23:13.21 | sjhill | well, time to fly |
| 23:13.23 | jbevren | :) |
| 23:13.23 | sjhill | ah |
| 23:13.24 | jbevren | see ya |
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| 23:47.43 | sorphin | heh |
