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| 03:30.29 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 13:00.31 | prpplague | bummer elinux.org appears to be down |
| 13:00.47 | prpplague | TimRiker: sure have been having alot of problems accessing elinux.org |
| 13:10.45 | prpplague | TimRiker: should i be concerned about this impending sf.net changes? |
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| 13:25.00 | prpplague | TimRiker: UGH!!! |
| 13:25.13 | prpplague | TimRiker: wtf happened to the wiki? |
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| 13:40.10 | T0mW | prpplague: source forge is such a joy, isn't it? |
| 13:40.37 | T0mW | prpplague: a somewhat intermittant asset |
| 13:41.38 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, the wiki has worked pretty well until the last couple of weeks |
| 13:42.00 | prpplague | T0mW: i'd like to set up my own wiki page on small-linux.com |
| 13:42.16 | prpplague | T0mW: but i'm just not into all that web maintaince |
| 13:42.24 | prpplague | T0mW: thats why i use the elinux pages |
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| 13:43.11 | prpplague | Croftonty! |
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| 13:48.40 | prpplague | bchapp: greetings |
| 13:49.05 | bchapp | ditto |
| 13:49.39 | prpplague | bchapp: this channel is mostly populated with embedded linux developers |
| 13:51.04 | prpplague | bchapp: we generally have a pretty good selection of professionals here |
| 13:51.49 | TheCollector | bchapp: and a good selection of n00bs such as myself ;) |
| 13:52.26 | prpplague | bchapp was just hired at aml entry level for doing some embedded work |
| 13:52.29 | bchapp | TheCollector: I feel welcome already |
| 13:52.47 | TheCollector | good :) |
| 13:52.48 | file[laptop] | and a free VoIP phone with free service! |
| 13:53.12 | bchapp | file[laptop]: thank you |
| 14:06.31 | prpplague | bchapp: the current build system for the m-7100 is a hodge podge of a bunch of scripts and such |
| 14:06.53 | prpplague | bchapp: we need to move it all over to either buildroot or openembedded |
| 14:07.10 | prpplague | bchapp: with buildroot being first choice |
| 14:07.28 | Wingnut | prpplague: gram over in #ol has done some work with buildroot, he may be able to answer some questions |
| 14:08.05 | prpplague | Wingnut: thanks, i'll keep that in mind |
| 14:08.24 | prpplague | Wingnut: i've done a number of buildroot conversions, but you can always use the help |
| 14:08.37 | Wingnut | indeed |
| 14:22.09 | CosmicPenguin | Yodididly |
| 14:26.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 14:26.45 | prpplague | bchapp: CosmicPenguin is the lead linux developer for the AMD geode line |
| 14:26.55 | file[laptop] | and an all around great guy |
| 14:27.05 | prpplague | bchapp: also does a little work on the alchemy processor as well |
| 14:28.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is this your boy? |
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| 14:28.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, he might not like that term, hehe |
| 14:28.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, he's the new guy |
| 14:29.29 | prpplague | mallum: morning |
| 14:29.59 | CosmicPenguin | bchapp: greetings.. :) |
| 14:30.23 | mallum | hey prpplague, file[laptop], CosmicPenguin |
| 14:30.27 | prpplague | bchapp: mallum is author of matchbox - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8608661173.html |
| 14:42.25 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, cool - I found the GX BSDL files |
| 14:49.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lovely |
| 14:49.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you see that post on linuxdevices about the amd thin client? |
| 14:53.49 | CosmicPenguin | I try not to give linuxdevices eyeballs unless I have to |
| 14:53.50 | CosmicPenguin | whats up? |
| 14:55.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just another post about the geode based thin client |
| 15:01.58 | TheCollector | anyone ever tried to extend the cable legnths for the screen on the tuxscreen? |
| 15:07.18 | prpplague | TheCollector: yea, doesn't work well |
| 15:07.30 | prpplague | TheCollector: the timing on a 640x480 is very sensitive |
| 15:07.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - I told you guys about that like four months ago... :) |
| 15:07.38 | CosmicPenguin | good to see that LD is right on top of things |
| 15:07.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:08.42 | TheCollector | prpplague: how did you try to extend the legnth? |
| 15:11.48 | prpplague | TheCollector: just make a longer ribbon cable |
| 15:12.13 | TheCollector | ah |
| 15:13.15 | prpplague | TheCollector: really difficult to do a digital signal over that distance and still get good quality |
| 15:13.36 | TheCollector | so I've chatted it up with a couple EEs, and the concensus is that if I step up the voltage w/ buffers for the long cable run and step back down to the regular voltage, it should work fine |
| 15:14.06 | prpplague | TheCollector: yea, that might work |
| 15:14.21 | TheCollector | good, good... :-D |
| 15:14.43 | prpplague | TheCollector: but you start running into some timing issues |
| 15:15.29 | TheCollector | just with the amt. of time for setup on the buffers and the time for the signal to complete the run of the cable? |
| 15:18.17 | prpplague | TheCollector: yea, you are looking at some propogation time |
| 15:18.53 | TheCollector | hmmm |
| 15:19.17 | TheCollector | my car + tuxscreen dreams may have just died |
| 15:21.58 | CosmicPenguin | My boss and my co-worker are having heated discussions about star trek physics |
| 15:23.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm working on making a general purpose jtag library for geode and alchemy devices |
| 15:23.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: We currently use FS2 debug boxes, and while they are cool, they cost a ton and need windows software |
| 15:23.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I figure if we made holly gates devices and gave em out like candy, that it would really be useful for our customers |
| 15:24.06 | TheCollector | prpplague: any idea of how long a cable run do you think I can get if i step the signaling up to 5V? |
| 15:25.08 | prpplague | TheCollector: sorry no i don't know |
| 15:25.22 | prpplague | TheCollector: T0mW might have a better idea about that |
| 15:25.24 | TheCollector | ok |
| 15:25.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, thats what we are thinking about our boards as well |
| 15:26.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think jtag has become a new challenge for alot of devrs |
| 15:27.39 | CosmicPenguin | My co-worker is working on a method whereby we can dump the memory of a system onto a USB key using only jtag |
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| 15:52.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: neat idea |
| 15:53.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: although i'd prefer my sd/mmc card via spi, hehe |
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| 15:55.45 | TimRiker | prpplague: well, I just "fixed" the elinux wiki, but then it looks like SF went down. my shell died and I can't even get the static index page. |
| 15:57.50 | prpplague | TimRiker: yea |
| 15:57.56 | prpplague | TimRiker: its been like that for several days |
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| 15:58.02 | prpplague | TimRiker: sf that is |
| 15:58.11 | prpplague | TimRiker: what the heck was wrong with the wiki? |
| 15:59.05 | prpplague | this char shifting issue is driving me nuts |
| 16:05.55 | TimRiker | prpplague: I presume that they finally made the read-only changes. and the wiki does not like it. |
| 16:06.37 | TimRiker | I moved the wiki data to /tmp/persistant/elinux/wiki/ but then the server went bye bye. it may work fine once the server comes back from lunch. |
| 16:07.26 | TimRiker | once I get setup in Utah, I'll likely move the wiki to my home server so we can have email etc working. |
| 16:07.43 | TimRiker | then you can use the photo gallery etc. |
| 16:08.07 | TimRiker | more work for me, but things should be up more than sf, and not as restricted. |
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| 16:16.17 | Genesis | mv CD_altera /dev/null |
| 16:48.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like i solved the char shifting problem |
| 17:06.55 | CosmicPenguin | What twas it? |
| 17:08.17 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: it was a character assassination...get it? |
| 17:08.18 | sjhill | hahahah |
| 17:08.20 | sjhill | i kill me |
| 17:08.34 | file[desk] | sjhill: that, was bad |
| 17:08.44 | sjhill | i bet you laughed though |
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| 17:09.00 | file[desk] | no, I looked for something to throw at you but then realized you're not really here |
| 17:09.10 | sjhill | heh |
| 17:10.28 | file[desk] | stupid Outlook |
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| 17:51.51 | sjhill | man, gcc-4.1 is seriously $!#$!#@ up |
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| 17:59.17 | TimRiker | sf is back. god slow. |
| 17:59.20 | TimRiker | er dog.... |
| 17:59.28 | sjhill | blasphemer! |
| 18:00.27 | Crofton | don't worry TimRiker We've all experienced keyboard errors |
| 18:00.32 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:03.59 | TimRiker | prpplague: ugh. moving the wiki data pages didn't do it. |
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| 18:55.41 | neofob | is there anyway that i can boot from an usb drive w/ advantech 5820 sbc? |
| 18:56.25 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not sure if the GX1 BIOS can handle it |
| 18:57.06 | CosmicPenguin | Pick CD-ROM as your primary device in the BIOS, and see if it works |
| 18:57.31 | TheCollector | CosmicPenguin: are you in dallas? |
| 19:00.34 | CosmicPenguin | Not since the last time I looked |
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| 19:10.08 | neofob | hm....i tried it doesnt work |
| 19:10.10 | neofob | i'm looking around for a spare compact flash to install dsl on it :-) |
| 19:24.18 | T0mW | heh |
| 19:24.20 | Crofton | heh, I was thinking almost the same thing :) |
| 19:24.37 | T0mW | TimRiker: nice to have "friends" |
| 19:24.58 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: are you headed to OLS? Is anyone else there? That's an excellent conference to do head hunting at. |
| 19:25.35 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going |
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| 19:26.00 | jacques | if anyone needs a roommate at OLS let me know |
| 19:26.03 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: we would have called you personally |
| 19:26.14 | TimRiker | With fronds like these, who needs anemones? |
| 19:27.12 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: aw, gee. ;-) yeah. this was an internet harvest, though they called on my office phone number. which I don't think I've published anywhere. |
| 19:28.18 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: is it on your HTMLized resume? |
| 19:29.09 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: nope. no phone number there, just email. |
| 19:29.32 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, then it definately wasn't me |
| 19:29.46 | TimRiker | =) |
| 19:30.48 | CosmicPenguin | whew |
| 19:30.54 | CosmicPenguin | I was worried there for a second |
| 19:31.09 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/resume.html <- /me likes his "Special Note" section. It still cracks me up. |
| 19:31.36 | CosmicPenguin | But in the future, if any of you end up working for AMD, make sure you tell 'em I sent you, even if I didn't |
| 19:31.41 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: =) |
| 19:31.45 | CosmicPenguin | I'll buy you lunch... :) |
| 19:33.23 | jacques | heh, I'd settle for half of your cut |
| 19:38.34 | TheCollector | CosmicPenguin: well, if you were in dallas, I was gonna see if you were planning on being at the AMD/MS tech expo today |
| 19:41.32 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 19:41.47 | CosmicPenguin | wrong processor, wrong OS.. :) |
| 19:42.55 | TheCollector | CosmicPenguin: I thought you worked for AMD... |
| 19:43.05 | TheCollector | but the wrong OS is obvious |
| 20:19.30 | CosmicPenguin | TheCollector: I work on Geode and Alchemy processors - I don't get to play with the *lons |
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| 22:44.16 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.dvico.com/pmx-3.html |
| 22:44.17 | CosmicPenguin | seesh |
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| 23:29.47 | [g2] | CP where's the Ethernet connection ? |
| 23:30.13 | [g2] | or should I just used the CF/SDIO-WIFI as the bridge :) |
| 23:30.27 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 23:31.21 | [g2] | CP who's making some cool cheap Geode boards ? |
| 23:32.05 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.advantech.com.tw/ePlatform/EC/SOM-2354/ |
| 23:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.cool-shop.de/product_info.php?products_id=51&cPath=5&XTCsid=e253be4a825436d947e80b4c8197b4d7 |
| 23:32.44 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.dtresearch.com/prod_webDT166CE.html |
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