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00:37.21 | jamie | Has anyone here worked on a Sigma Designs 8621L or similar? |
00:44.01 | cdm | mmmm...doing MPEG decode hardware support jamie? |
00:47.51 | jamie | well, I'm not doing that bit, Sigma's done that :-) |
00:48.59 | jamie | I'm looking for someone to answer a few _really basic_ questions not found on the SD web site, as I don't have the chip's documentation ($$$). |
00:52.51 | jamie | It's quite a nice chip, but for the difficulty getting docs for it. |
00:53.02 | jamie | Plays high-def MPEGs nicely :) |
00:53.15 | cdm | that is what I ment - adding support to Linux for that chipset. ;) |
00:53.18 | cdm | not doing the hardware. |
00:53.52 | jamie | The 8620/21L (see www.sigmadesigns.com) has Linux support already. |
00:54.02 | jamie | It's an ARM + video decoder basically. |
00:54.23 | jamie | But I gather that much of the video functionality is in binary drivers. |
00:54.42 | cdm | yeah - they aren't big on giving out that level of info without strict NDAs in place. |
00:55.23 | jamie | Even then they aren't. The folks I'm working for didn't even get a response out of Sigma's sales rep, but we found a 3rd party who uses them. |
00:57.02 | jamie | Still, good enough to make a video player that's cheaper and quieter than a mini-ITX :) |
00:57.57 | cdm | has to be in their intrerest too. :) |
00:58.35 | jacques | hmm I'm also interested in lirc config for shannon keyboards |
01:38.33 | fishhead | jamie |
01:38.39 | fishhead | did you see all the info on the juicebox months ago |
01:38.40 | jamie | yes? |
01:38.52 | fishhead | $60 kids video player down to $13 walmart clearance and the mp3 kit which was $39 down to $9 |
01:38.53 | jamie | what's the juicebox? (I guess not :) |
01:38.56 | fishhead | uclinux |
01:38.57 | fishhead | 60mhz arm |
01:39.00 | fishhead | 240x160 lcd |
01:39.03 | fishhead | 256 color though |
01:39.21 | fishhead | plays movies from special carts but can view pics or play mp3 from sd using the mp3 adaptor cart which you can make yourself btw |
01:39.23 | jamie | Ah. I'm working on a video player to drive 1024x768 LCDs upwards to 1920x1080. |
01:39.35 | fishhead | well yeah I know this isn't even on the same universe |
01:39.40 | fishhead | but if you want something just for fun for $13 :P |
01:39.51 | fishhead | #pixterdev if you get interested and prpp is the main hacker |
01:39.58 | fishhead | he's usually in this channel |
01:39.59 | jamie | I looked for quite long time for an ARM with decent video... the Sigma Designs thing just sort of turned up by accident. |
01:40.01 | jamie | ok. |
01:40.11 | jamie | bear in mind I'm not in the US ;-) |
01:40.23 | fishhead | oh then you can't get the deal :( |
01:40.39 | fishhead | unless the thing goes bust totally and gets cheap everywhere |
01:40.47 | fishhead | i'll try to let you know |
01:41.03 | fishhead | I bought 7 :P |
01:41.15 | fishhead | sold one, gave one to 3 yr old nephew just to play the videos you can buy for it :) |
01:41.20 | jamie | so to play movies, it needs the extra hardware of special carts? |
01:41.29 | fishhead | well all the cart is is a rom |
01:41.36 | fishhead | we are trying to find out how to make it play video from SD |
01:41.52 | fishhead | also when it plays video either from cart or demo built into it's flash it loads a video player os |
01:41.53 | fishhead | customer |
01:41.55 | fishhead | custom |
01:42.01 | fishhead | only uses uclinux for pics or mp3 playback |
01:42.11 | fishhead | we will find out eventualy :) |
01:42.14 | jamie | :) |
01:42.17 | fishhead | btw if you find one cheap |
01:42.22 | fishhead | get one without the pinhole led on the front |
01:42.39 | fishhead | the ones without the pinhole have 8 meg ram vs 2 and the rom is a package instead of a glob makes it easier to unsolder |
01:43.16 | jamie | well, I appreciate the tips, but I probably won't see one, and I'm looking at the "bigger picture" i.e. HDTV-size anyway |
01:43.25 | fishhead | well hell yeah that's better |
01:43.26 | fishhead | :) |
01:43.40 | fishhead | I also have a palm t5 and they have a free video player out now |
01:43.49 | fishhead | does pretty well with existing divx files that aren't even screen size |
01:44.00 | fishhead | little sluggish but not bad if I recoded them it would probably playback perfect |
01:44.10 | jamie | looked for ages for an ARM or MIPS or something with decent video on the same board, and didn't find one until recently. Thought I'd have to use a mini-ITX PC. But the Sigma Designs chip, if you can get it or a board with it on, is pretty good. |
01:44.20 | fishhead | neat |
01:44.23 | fishhead | i tell you |
01:44.30 | fishhead | when arm was still acorn computer |
01:44.34 | jamie | It's increasingly found in DVD players etc. I think, so you might stumble across it. |
01:44.39 | fishhead | whoever suggested they start licencing their cpu |
01:44.45 | fishhead | was a genius |
01:44.48 | jamie | yes, I remember when ARM was first announced :) |
01:44.53 | fishhead | and probably has his own state |
01:44.57 | fishhead | the company paid for |
01:44.58 | fishhead | :P |
01:45.09 | fishhead | mips isn't doing bad either |
01:45.09 | jamie | They're owned by Intel now. |
01:45.14 | fishhead | uhh |
01:45.16 | fishhead | since when |
01:45.24 | fishhead | intel only has the strongarm version |
01:45.39 | jamie | ah, easily confused :) |
01:45.49 | fishhead | intel got that when they bought out DEC |
01:45.56 | fishhead | na there are |
01:46.14 | jamie | didn't someone design an ARM-intruction-set-compatible CPU for an FPGA, only to be threatened with a lawsuit by ARM? |
01:46.16 | CARL_SAGEN | BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF ARM LICENCEE'S |
01:46.31 | jamie | I think that's why so many random little chips use MIPS. |
01:46.37 | CARL_SAGEN | na |
01:46.41 | CARL_SAGEN | texas instruments has one |
01:46.42 | jamie | At least you can use all but two of the MIPS instructions without a license! |
01:46.44 | CARL_SAGEN | called OMAP |
01:46.46 | CARL_SAGEN | ARM + TI DSP |
01:46.51 | CARL_SAGEN | the palm's used to use that |
01:46.56 | jamie | yeah, but I bet TI licensed something from ARM to do that. |
01:47.02 | CARL_SAGEN | for t1, t2, but t3 and t5 use strongarm |
01:47.07 | CARL_SAGEN | yes they did |
01:47.12 | CARL_SAGEN | there is intel strongarm |
01:47.19 | CARL_SAGEN | there is samsung which is what the juicebox uses |
01:47.21 | CARL_SAGEN | and many more |
01:47.31 | CARL_SAGEN | company that bought licence and make their own flavor |
01:47.34 | CARL_SAGEN | same with mips |
01:47.40 | jamie | It bothers me that lawsuits can be threatened over an instruction set. |
01:48.01 | CARL_SAGEN | yeah I am pretty conservative and pro business but the patent abuses are getting rediculous |
01:48.15 | CARL_SAGEN | suing someone over "blue cpu" patent is just flat out GAY |
01:48.31 | jamie | "blue cpu" patent? Is that where it's housed in a blue ceramic? |
01:48.40 | CARL_SAGEN | yeah there are literally patents that bad |
01:48.42 | CARL_SAGEN | :/ |
01:48.50 | jamie | bugger. I was hoping to make one of those. |
01:49.05 | CARL_SAGEN | btw the samsung arm is a arm7tdmi |
01:49.09 | CARL_SAGEN | well this model is for the juicebox |
01:49.16 | CARL_SAGEN | tdmi is a low end model no mmu |
01:49.28 | CARL_SAGEN | which is fine it's used in a ton of embedded stiuff like all those home routers |
01:49.56 | CARL_SAGEN | I guess tdmi would be the dragonball m68k of the arm family |
01:50.00 | CARL_SAGEN | arm7tdmi |
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03:07.08 | T0mW | jacques: I've got a new MythTV box that I've put together: two PVR250's I'd like to use those parts from the WebPal because their remote has a fairly nice "thumb" mouse on it |
03:16.32 | T0mW | sourceforge sux |
03:16.38 | T0mW | !#@$$$$4 |
03:17.30 | T0mW | idiot search engine won't find a word that I can clearly see in one of the mailing list postings! Now how dumb is that?! |
03:19.01 | T0mW | thing only searches the "topic" of a post, not the body.. |
03:25.15 | jacques | yep sourcescourge search is a joke |
03:25.51 | T0mW | yeah, subscription required to use a decent engine |
03:26.35 | T0mW | well, I don't see much about the senjii keyboard stuff. I guess I'll have to break out the 'scope and take a look |
03:28.06 | T0mW | s/senjii/senjin/ |
03:45.40 | T0mW | of course, a 'modprobe ivtv' is supposed to lockup the computer |
03:45.45 | T0mW | heh |
03:46.07 | T0mW | too darned late to do this stuff :) |
03:55.13 | jacques | this toolchain stuff is making my brain hurt |
03:56.09 | T0mW | lol |
03:56.30 | T0mW | always blows my mind away building out a new toolchain |
03:57.15 | jacques | I dunno why I'm even trying to do it - gcc4.0.0 armeb soft-float cross-toolchain |
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04:10.28 | T0mW | jacques: ow, gcc4.0.0 ??!!! |
04:11.28 | T0mW | jacques: you want to borrow one of my knives? They might be sharper |
04:14.32 | T0mW | silly /me, make modules_install before make install |
04:14.33 | jacques | lol |
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04:22.55 | T0mW | jacques: you wanna know the difference between a Windows admin and a linux admin? |
04:23.58 | T0mW | The Windows admin doesn't know that he is about to fsck his system up; the linux admin knows that he will probably fsck his system but doesn't care that much 'cause he can fix it. |
04:25.42 | T0mW | jacques: I went to the computer show this weekend and brought home 4 250G IDE drives... |
04:26.32 | Soopaman | how much? |
04:26.46 | file | yeah, how much? |
04:27.02 | T0mW | cash price was US$139 |
04:27.19 | T0mW | Full 3 year warranty |
04:27.29 | T0mW | 8 Meg cache |
04:27.37 | file | yummy |
04:27.51 | T0mW | well, that started it... |
04:28.19 | T0mW | Then ... I "needed" a new Sempron 2800 to power the drives... |
04:28.35 | file | lol |
04:29.00 | T0mW | then ... there was the question of using PC2100 DDR with that CPU |
04:29.19 | T0mW | Total damage was a little under $1000 |
04:29.22 | file | lol |
04:29.36 | T0mW | file: you DO know how this happens, right? |
04:29.48 | Soopaman | lol |
04:29.55 | T0mW | um |
04:30.05 | T0mW | I'll find something usefull for the new box to do |
04:30.57 | T0mW | OH! |
04:31.16 | T0mW | don't forget the super quiet Antec True Power 480W supply |
04:32.41 | T0mW | <sigh> If anyone would have had 1G Registered ECC DDR, I would have used the Tyan board for this box and also shoved the two 200G SATA drives in there as well |
04:32.48 | jacques | i wish my tax refunds would hurry up and get here |
04:33.11 | T0mW | I wish the check from the customer would get here so I can pay for this shit |
04:33.14 | T0mW | heh |
04:33.22 | jacques | :-) |
04:33.28 | T0mW | :) |
04:34.45 | T0mW | ok, let's see: "memory access violation: slab-0 blah blah", I think my new kernel is toast |
05:32.00 | jacques | boop boop BOOP! |
05:45.35 | T0mW | eh? |
05:48.24 | jacques | that's the sound of a tuxscreen booting |
05:51.33 | T0mW | YAH! YAH! I have picture! HOORAY! |
05:51.57 | T0mW | freaking ivtv is such a bitch to get working |
05:52.42 | jacques | still? sigh |
05:52.47 | T0mW | yeah |
05:52.47 | jacques | it's been years |
05:53.16 | T0mW | I'm still not sure how I got it working though, it "magically" appeared |
05:53.47 | T0mW | Rule #1 on a MythTV box: don't mess with working ivtv |
05:54.02 | T0mW | Rule #2 on a MythTV box: thank the Gods when lirc works |
05:54.42 | jacques | yeah lirc is another one |
05:55.04 | jacques | I was very disappointed at how much CPU lirc uses |
05:55.08 | jacques | is it still like that? |
05:56.19 | T0mW | ok, where is the mysql script now..... |
06:12.01 | MonMotha | T0mW: someone really needs to make a quick little hackish script to do just IR blaster stuff without having to run lirc |
06:12.39 | T0mW | :/ |
06:13.19 | T0mW | lots of stuff need to be done with remote control (set top box) in linux. |
06:13.56 | T0mW | sometimes I think there is a slew of (l)users but not many developers, I'm guilty |
06:14.08 | MonMotha | me as well |
06:14.30 | MonMotha | part of the problem is that lirc is an abomination that nobody wants to work on |
06:14.41 | T0mW | heh, I'm going to register my Mom at zap2it, wonder if they will think a 72 year old woman is a computer geek? |
06:14.56 | T0mW | that's a good word: abomination! |
06:15.14 | T0mW | MonMotha: like hacking XFree86 |
06:15.38 | MonMotha | yeah |
06:15.44 | T0mW | XFree86 has been the absolute worst code I've ever worked on |
06:15.45 | MonMotha | or mozilla |
06:15.49 | T0mW | he |
06:15.52 | T0mW | <PROTECTED> |
06:17.16 | MonMotha | I've been tempted to dive into the DVB stuff, but haven't found the time |
06:17.20 | MonMotha | I have far too much other stuff to do |
06:17.53 | MonMotha | I have a PCHDTV card, seems to work, though I can't get signal in here :( |
06:18.25 | MonMotha | been tempted to get an Air2PC card for the QAM tuning, since I don't believe the PCHDTV folk ever got that working |
06:20.12 | MonMotha | * The drivers for pcHDTV 3000 have been merged in the vanilla kernel 2.6.12-rc1 or later. <--- awesome |
06:20.17 | MonMotha | now I don't have to patch the living crap out of my kernel |
06:26.27 | jacques | hmm if I wanna get a HD card apparently I have to do it soon |
06:27.49 | T0mW | yeah, me too, I wonder what to purchase. Isn't that broadcast flag thingy going to happen soon? |
06:28.02 | jacques | yeah, like june 1 or something |
06:28.07 | T0mW | ow! |
06:28.32 | T0mW | MonMotha: you using HDTV now? |
06:31.20 | MonMotha | T0mW: been attempting to. Unfortunately, I live in a frickin' faraday cage |
06:31.29 | MonMotha | I had it working momentarily at home back with the old v4l drivers |
06:31.39 | MonMotha | I have it using DVB now, and it can see a station, but can't even get the callsign |
06:36.53 | T0mW | jacques: so, we have to purchase a card soon, eh? |
06:37.49 | jacques | or two |
06:55.57 | T0mW | well... lirc won't work, why am I not surprised? |
06:57.14 | T0mW | tired, cannot see, need food |
06:57.24 | T0mW | gak |
06:58.10 | jacques | i would really like to find that shannon keyboard lirc config |
07:02.11 | jacques | these gigantic tuxscreen power bricks are really annoying |
07:02.33 | MonMotha | jacques: so make a smaller one |
07:02.37 | MonMotha | they're pretty darn simple |
07:03.19 | jacques | yeah I might have to do that |
07:06.41 | MonMotha | I need to figure out how to get the PCHDTV DVB drivers to load without using hotplug/udev |
07:06.55 | MonMotha | there's no real reason to use all that stuff on this system since the config is completely stati |
07:06.55 | MonMotha | c |
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12:23.31 | fishhead | http://investor.zilog.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=107835&p=irol-newsArticle&t=Regular&id=703795&ticker=ZILG&script=410&layout=0 <--- I am buying one of these |
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12:52.42 | fishhead | http://www.zilog.com/springintoaction/?code=456855 |
12:52.44 | fishhead | check it |
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14:12.04 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
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14:12.54 | CosmicPenguin | Oops - don't press that button |
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14:14.08 | prpplague^2 | ho diddy ho ho |
14:18.46 | prpplague^2 | whats cookin today folks? |
14:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | nothin |
14:19.48 | prpplague^2 | CosmicPenguin: things still well there at amd? |
14:20.21 | CosmicPenguin | Same ol' same ol' |
14:20.33 | prpplague^2 | hehe |
14:23.30 | prpplague^2 | CosmicPenguin: stuck on booting a kernel today |
14:24.11 | prpplague^2 | CosmicPenguin: can't seem to get all the parms right |
14:24.49 | CosmicPenguin | Sometimes these things happen |
14:25.36 | prpplague^2 | CosmicPenguin: more like my brain is dead |
14:27.56 | mallum | hey, where is sorphin nowadays ? |
14:32.38 | prpplague^2 | mallum: no idea, he's been scarce since he moved |
14:32.58 | mallum | prpplague^2: he /msg'd me last night out of the blue, but was then quiet |
14:34.54 | prpplague^2 | mallum: hmm |
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14:39.27 | CosmicPenguin | He came in a few days ago - nobody talked to him, so I think he got a little pissy |
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15:22.26 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: morning |
15:23.28 | prpplague | chouimat|ibook: lo |
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17:24.31 | prpplague | see the crap i have to fight against http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/NewViewNewsleft.cfm?Record=21234 |
17:24.31 | CosmicPenguin | You don't like blackberry? :) |
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17:24.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, not when they could be using linux/oss alternatives |
17:24.34 | Soopaman | i don't like black berries at all |
17:24.35 | Soopaman | :P |
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17:28.42 | Soopaman | prpplague, well not buggy, but it doesn't do what i want it to efficiently |
17:28.56 | Soopaman | so i have to add it to the list of my other heavily modified gadgets |
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17:38.21 | prpplague | Soopaman: what is a hiptop? |
17:38.21 | prpplague | ekk, major kernel panic |
17:38.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, figure out what a laptop is, and then re-arrange the body parts |
17:38.21 | T0mW | nsorf, huh? |
17:38.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, just not heard that phrase before, didn't know if that was a name brand/model |
17:38.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - these days, who knows? |
17:40.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ugh, this is a horrible kernel panic |
17:42.26 | Soopaman | prpplague, umm they are knows as a Sidekick |
17:42.31 | Soopaman | sidekick 2 |
17:42.36 | Soopaman | www.danger.com |
17:42.49 | Soopaman | pretty much a young person's blackberry |
17:43.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what did you blow up? |
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18:28.04 | T0mW | does this make sense to anyone? I'm looking at the WebPal keyboard signal to the IR XMIT diode, it appears that the data stream (bits) are being modulated at 66KHz ? |
18:28.25 | T0mW | IIRC, 38KHz is one of the carrier freqs |
18:28.35 | T0mW | ah |
18:28.46 | T0mW | MonMotha: ping |
18:40.14 | fishhead | t0wm |
18:44.35 | fishhead | http://www.eeproductcenter.com/test-measure/brief/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=162100951 |
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20:45.44 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
20:45.55 | prpplague | TimRiker: getting anywhere on the lpgl stuff? |
20:46.00 | prpplague | TimRiker: for the zipit? |
20:46.19 | prpplague | TimRiker: i need to press those guys on the juicebox stuff |
21:09.41 | TimRiker | prpplague: you saw the posts on the list just now, yes? fsf is getting involved. |
21:11.21 | prpplague | TimRiker: yea, just wondering what the "minor issues" were |
21:11.33 | prpplague | TimRiker: i need to get fsf involved with the juicebox |
21:12.07 | T0mW | minor issue could be that supplied source doesn't compile? |
21:12.09 | T0mW | heh |
21:15.29 | TimRiker | prpplague: 1) no mention of GPL/LGPL in packaging, 2) no sources or offer for sources included 3) no object file for the Zipit binary. Note that number 3 is _not_ a minor issue in my opinion. |
21:16.29 | TimRiker | I'd just like them to convert over to using bb, iwconfig, and zipit off one dynamic uclibc, with no glibc in the picture. |
21:17.27 | TimRiker | save space and likely run faster. I have no idea why they use glibc for Zipit. I expect they got the other binaries from "someone else" and the working toolchain they use is for glibc. |
21:34.34 | fishhead | OH BTW |
21:34.59 | fishhead | THE NEXT GUY ON MY SIDE OF THE POLITICAL ASILE THAT CLAIMS THAT THE GPL IS UNAMERICAN OR ANTI CAPITALISM, CAN SUCK MY BALLS |
21:35.02 | fishhead | K THX |
21:35.05 | fishhead | .RANT OFF |
21:37.09 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: Or possibly, they just didn't bother to see if an alternative existed |
21:37.41 | prpplague | TimRiker: i agree |
21:39.09 | fishhead | t0mw I am planning on merging a juicebox with my webpal |
21:47.55 | prpplague | fishhead: please use a little restraint |
21:48.10 | prpplague | fishhead: 1) easy on the caps, 2) easy on the language |
21:48.19 | fishhead | yes sir |
21:48.42 | prpplague | kergoth: hey bud, how goes it? |
21:56.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok i guess i'm dense today, or doing all this bootloader flash stuff has rotted my brain, but what is CSS? |
21:57.31 | CosmicPenguin | cascading style sheets |
21:57.32 | jacques | cascading style sheets? |
21:57.36 | prpplague | ahh |
21:57.47 | CosmicPenguin | I was messing with a kernel.org clone for my internal stuff, and I was playing with it |
21:57.59 | CosmicPenguin | it just reinforces my opinion that all web programming is inherently evil |
21:58.36 | prpplague | well....i hope you real guru's don't mind, i've just finished my third BSP and i'm gonna take this oportunity to say.... |
21:58.38 | prpplague | wahoo! |
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22:00.58 | TimRiker | prpplague: I've had enough of giving warnings to fishead. kick him at will. If he still does not get it, I'll start banning him. |
22:03.33 | prpplague | TimRiker: understood |
22:03.51 | prpplague | fishhead: and if you get banned here, you go in my channels as well |
22:04.10 | fishhead | I see |
22:04.20 | fishhead | wel I guess that means I will take all my friends with me out of your channels |
22:04.35 | file | so, that means only you are leaving? |
22:04.47 | fishhead | ha ha |
22:05.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, its such a great feeling to see that # come up on the console of a new board |
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22:08.01 | TimRiker | prpplague: congrats. it is a good feeling. ;-) |
22:08.44 | prpplague | TimRiker: yea it is |
22:11.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: definately - especially when you spend lots of time struggling with it |
22:13.07 | prpplague | if anyone cares, fishead has been extremely erratic in my other channels with some "violent" wordage |
22:34.37 | Crofton | It was weird, this morning fishhead was almost normal ..... |
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22:39.39 | Crofton | So normal I was thinking it was a different person :) |
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