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| 02:54.58 | chouimat | nigh |
| 02:55.00 | chouimat | t |
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| 13:47.38 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:49.33 | file[laptop] | mornings are evil |
| 13:49.45 | T0mW | :P |
| 13:50.00 | file[laptop] | let's destroy them |
| 13:50.31 | T0mW | file[laptop]: you reach a point in life where you are gratefull to see another morning! heh |
| 13:50.54 | T0mW | especially after some of the stupid shit I pulled, whew |
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| 14:11.22 | file[laptop] | it's prpplague! |
| 14:26.50 | prpplague | yep, its me |
| 14:31.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lo ho |
| 14:31.44 | CosmicPenguin | hello |
| 14:32.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got a job offer yesterday for a place in longmont |
| 14:32.40 | CosmicPenguin | heh - no crap? |
| 14:32.41 | CosmicPenguin | where? |
| 14:34.19 | prpplague | some ibm contractor |
| 14:34.49 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh - sure |
| 14:34.59 | CosmicPenguin | IBM Boulder is huge |
| 14:35.44 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: it's you! |
| 14:35.53 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: its you too |
| 14:36.43 | file[laptop] | waddup? |
| 14:36.57 | chouimat | grrr they cut the water for maintainance while I was taking my shower |
| 14:40.47 | file[laptop] | chouimat: just to annoy you |
| 14:41.03 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh crap |
| 14:41.12 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: your config has trailing blanks |
| 14:41.30 | chouimat | and the water will be out for the day ... so I have to use the cat bowl to remove the soap |
| 14:41.43 | CosmicPenguin | dam nwindows |
| 14:42.07 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: open it up in edit in a command window, save it, then open it elsewhere... that'll fix it |
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| 14:42.41 | file[laptop] | hail Tim |
| 14:42.51 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: I know how to fix it... :) |
| 14:47.30 | CosmicPenguin | everyone here thinks that you have horrible luck and got a buggy dom |
| 14:47.47 | file[laptop] | probably. |
| 14:47.53 | file[laptop] | chouimat: haha |
| 14:48.52 | chouimat | file[laptop]: =) |
| 14:51.14 | file[laptop] | silly buggy DOMs |
| 14:51.34 | chouimat | ? |
| 14:56.50 | file[laptop] | if it turns out to be my kernel I'll be slightly irritated, just slightly |
| 15:01.11 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat is always so colorful |
| 15:01.24 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: it's because he's french |
| 15:02.32 | file[laptop] | what? it's true |
| 15:03.11 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: thanks ... I try to be use the f word less often |
| 15:08.29 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: bad news bro - your config and my kernel boot fine |
| 15:08.56 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: now, time to try your kernel |
| 15:09.24 | file[laptop] | so, toasted DOM most likely |
| 15:09.52 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: probalby |
| 15:10.05 | file[laptop] | just my luck |
| 15:11.25 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: possibly |
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| 15:16.21 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: request permission to throw mambo board into fire |
| 15:16.29 | file[laptop] | and watch it BURN! |
| 15:17.10 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: ok, thats enough out ouf you - thats still a damn good board you've got there |
| 15:17.20 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 15:17.59 | CosmicPenguin | And I need you to focus so I can get a decent IP phone running on that thing |
| 15:18.29 | file[laptop] | focus will exist when it is up and running |
| 15:19.08 | CosmicPenguin | Again, I submit to you that a 44 pin iDE->CF would be a good thing |
| 15:19.15 | CosmicPenguin | Specially for rapid prototyping |
| 15:19.22 | CosmicPenguin | I'll send you one with a replacment DOM, hows that? |
| 15:19.31 | file[laptop] | and then I have to buy a compactflash card too, and a cf reader |
| 15:20.02 | CosmicPenguin | True - but those are investments that will be good for your programming career |
| 15:20.09 | file[laptop] | blah |
| 15:20.20 | file[laptop] | I'm an SD person :p |
| 15:20.23 | CosmicPenguin | And you have a laptop, right? CF->PCMCIA adapters are like six bucks |
| 15:26.06 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: your kernel comes up fine too - except that its not reading the partition like I thought it would |
| 15:26.19 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: is your initrd doing wierd things in that regard? |
| 15:26.29 | file[laptop] | it's the debian installer initrd |
| 15:27.08 | CosmicPenguin | Its not doing a hdparm -d 1 is it? |
| 15:27.23 | file[laptop] | hdparm isn't even there |
| 15:27.26 | file[laptop] | I checked. |
| 15:27.34 | CosmicPenguin | the errors happen after the initrd loads? |
| 15:27.45 | file[laptop] | let's take a walk through |
| 15:27.59 | file[laptop] | to make sure. |
| 15:28.56 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: how big a file can your e-mail handle? |
| 15:29.15 | file[laptop] | you can e-mail it to josh.colp@gmail.com ;) |
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| 15:37.32 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: ok - i'm going to e-mail you a kernel and a .cramfs suitiable for use as a an initrd |
| 15:37.51 | file[laptop] | k |
| 15:40.39 | CosmicPenguin | Hopefully that doesn't freak out any e-mail systems |
| 15:41.59 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 15:43.06 | file[laptop] | there it is |
| 15:43.10 | file[laptop] | downloading. |
| 15:44.31 | file[laptop] | need watch |
| 15:45.37 | CosmicPenguin | hopefully watch is big enough |
| 15:45.42 | file[laptop] | 256MB |
| 15:47.09 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, that'll do |
| 15:48.20 | file[laptop] | what should my kernel commandline look like? |
| 15:48.38 | file[laptop] | cause right now I've got cramfs: wrong magic |
| 15:48.43 | file[laptop] | for an error |
| 15:53.54 | CosmicPenguin | hold on |
| 15:59.22 | CosmicPenguin | ramdisk_blocksize=4096 init=/linuxrc |
| 15:59.55 | file[laptop] | k |
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| 16:01.21 | file[laptop] | it needs a correct root option ;) |
| 16:01.30 | CosmicPenguin | root=/dev/ram0 |
| 16:01.39 | CosmicPenguin | sooo needy |
| 16:01.48 | file[laptop] | well I wanna have this exactly like yours :p |
| 16:03.32 | file[laptop] | no go |
| 16:03.36 | file[laptop] | same problem |
| 16:04.05 | file[laptop] | well |
| 16:04.09 | file[laptop] | same original problem |
| 16:04.17 | file[laptop] | with the reading of the sectors and such |
| 16:07.16 | CosmicPenguin | ok |
| 16:07.22 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sending you the DOM off my back |
| 16:07.25 | CosmicPenguin | and a CF adapter |
| 16:07.31 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 16:11.37 | file[laptop] | I don't know why but my net is so flakey right now |
| 16:12.18 | file[laptop] | can't even get to Google now... |
| 16:12.33 | file[laptop] | nor ISP... |
| 16:12.34 | file[laptop] | okay, brb |
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| 16:24.57 | Shylock | Does anyone have any advice on compiling siproxd for an SH4 with uClibc? I get "readconf.o(.text+0x3c4): undefined reference to `__movstr_i4_even'" |
| 16:25.48 | Shylock | I'm cross compiling on debian using the SnapGear CD and their sh-linux-gcc and toolchain. |
| 16:36.08 | prpplague | Shylock: most of the folks here are arm |
| 16:36.40 | CosmicPenguin | but I'm sure that andersee would love to hear about that |
| 16:37.09 | cdm | sounds like something missing from libgcc actually. |
| 16:38.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh yea, i didn't see the uclibc part |
| 16:38.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, all i noticed was sh4, hehe |
| 16:40.18 | file[laptop] | my internet is going crazy, yet again |
| 16:40.33 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: sure, sure |
| 16:41.01 | file[laptop] | muahahaha |
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| 16:48.59 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: you there? |
| 16:50.06 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 16:52.41 | CosmicPenguin | how much did you pay in duties? |
| 16:53.05 | file[laptop] | $21.08 CAD I believe... so the person at Fedex told me |
| 16:53.17 | file[laptop] | which I don't know how it's so cheap |
| 16:59.52 | Shylock | prpplague: Yeah I would prefer an ARM, but the system I'm hacking is SH4 and it does /almost/ everything I need with the stock firmware. |
| 17:00.11 | Shylock | So I'm just trying to jam one more program into it. |
| 17:01.09 | Shylock | I think it's not a SH specific error. I think I'm just screwing something up in the LDFLAGS for uClibc |
| 17:04.46 | file[laptop] | hahaha |
| 17:04.49 | file[laptop] | reimbursed? wow |
| 17:07.10 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: people are pissed |
| 17:07.23 | file[laptop] | who and why? |
| 17:13.06 | file[laptop] | what an interesting last name |
| 17:13.24 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 17:13.37 | file[laptop] | Zulauf |
| 17:13.47 | CosmicPenguin | Yep - he's a wild and crazy guy |
| 17:13.49 | CosmicPenguin | thats my boss |
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| 17:31.12 | file[laptop] | I've found my first victim er I mean client to persuade to let me install a managed asterisk pbx at their location |
| 17:31.45 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 17:31.57 | file[laptop] | the place I'm trying to get ahold of for an apartment showing :p |
| 17:32.12 | file[laptop] | their main line just has a recording, no voicemail, that plays back 3 numbers of people |
| 17:32.18 | file[laptop] | and then the other 3 numbers don't answer |
| 17:32.50 | file[laptop] | I mean, I could atleast turn it into a complicated menu system that puts you on hold forever |
| 17:32.53 | Crofton_ | I could hook my phone line to my pc and have a voice system? |
| 17:33.01 | file[laptop] | sure. |
| 17:33.14 | Crofton_ | like one of those press 1 to get mad at the robot lady |
| 17:33.23 | file[laptop] | if you want, sure! |
| 17:33.35 | Crofton_ | What hardware do I need to interface the phone line to the computer? |
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| 17:33.53 | file[laptop] | the easiest way is a Sipura SPA-3000 adapter |
| 17:33.54 | sjhill | Crofton_: it's called a modem |
| 17:33.59 | sjhill | man, kids these days |
| 17:34.19 | Crofton_ | I burned my last modem a couple of years ago |
| 17:34.28 | file[laptop] | Crofton_: you plug your phone line into the adapter and it sends incoming calls to your computer over your LAN, as well you can plug a phone into it to place calls through your computer |
| 17:34.29 | sjhill | oh oh, you mean VOIP...well...okay then |
| 17:34.33 | Crofton_ | I used to have a 300 baud modem |
| 17:34.53 | Crofton_ | Don't pull age on me! |
| 17:35.41 | CosmicPenguin | thats the funniest thing thats every been said in this room |
| 17:35.49 | CosmicPenguin | s/every/ever/ |
| 17:35.57 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: I think you need more coffee |
| 17:36.02 | Crofton_ | heh |
| 17:36.11 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I'm pretty sure that not the problem |
| 17:36.11 | sjhill | Pull age on you...sounds like your old enough we could pull anything on you |
| 17:36.18 | Crofton_ | heh |
| 17:36.33 | Crofton_ | My first computer had 128 bytes of RAM |
| 17:36.40 | file[laptop] | just like your brain? |
| 17:36.44 | Crofton_ | I am not a phone freak though :) |
| 17:36.48 | sjhill | eww, good one |
| 17:36.59 | sjhill | ~ibot insult file[laptop] |
| 17:37.05 | Crofton_ | heh |
| 17:37.30 | sjhill | yeah, so sorphin's wedding was in a huge cathedral...geesh |
| 17:37.40 | Crofton_ | can Tivo phone home over voip? |
| 17:37.47 | file[laptop] | Crofton_: meh who knows! |
| 17:38.20 | Crofton_ | I must stop looking at phone stuff .... |
| 17:38.43 | Crofton_ | I like the idea of having a voice response system on my home phone lline |
| 17:39.51 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: i'd toast my cell phone if i didn't have a kid now |
| 17:40.05 | file[laptop] | my cellphone is my friend |
| 17:40.19 | Crofton_ | damn work interupts |
| 17:40.29 | file[laptop] | although I have to figure out some way to forward my office extension to two numbers now, and avoiding voicemail on them both |
| 17:41.31 | CosmicPenguin | if I had the wherewithall and hardware, I would definately consider Asterisk in my house |
| 17:41.49 | file[laptop] | haha my apartment is going to have a nifty asterisk setup |
| 17:42.07 | CosmicPenguin | Though I'm less then inclined to bail on POTS for the near future |
| 17:44.32 | file[laptop] | I'm still gonna have an analog line |
| 17:45.08 | file[laptop] | silly CP |
| 17:46.21 | CosmicPenguin | A mambo with a bluetooth dongle, a headset and a keypad would be nice though |
| 17:46.47 | file[laptop] | muahaha |
| 17:47.06 | CosmicPenguin | Get rid of the frickin' crt |
| 17:47.27 | CosmicPenguin | We have a sweet little dongle that uses the DDC lines as a uart |
| 17:47.51 | file[laptop] | cool |
| 17:48.44 | CosmicPenguin | A little injection molding, and you've got a serial nice for a charater LCD |
| 17:49.07 | file[laptop] | oh no, CP is thinking... |
| 17:57.34 | Crofton_ | anyone know much about the cypress fx2 usb chip? |
| 18:22.00 | file[laptop] | apparently not |
| 18:22.25 | CosmicPenguin | Hey - a guy was just in here talking about that very chip earilier... :) |
| 18:22.27 | CosmicPenguin | weird |
| 18:22.41 | file[laptop] | dejavu |
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| 18:48.14 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm.... my tax person persists in not calling |
| 18:48.21 | file[laptop] | eh? |
| 18:48.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm gonna file for an extension |
| 18:48.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I might have to too |
| 18:48.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, whats the word in thin client area |
| 18:48.57 | CosmicPenguin | stupid H&R block |
| 18:49.05 | CosmicPenguin | They're thin and their clienty |
| 18:49.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you got any good recommendations lately? |
| 18:49.24 | file[laptop] | CP likes mambo, mambo CP |
| 18:49.39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I can only recommend the stuff that has Geodes in it... :) |
| 18:50.22 | CosmicPenguin | http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Wyse+S50&btnG=Search+Froogle |
| 18:50.27 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the new one out of Wyse |
| 18:52.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats way above the current average cost |
| 18:53.33 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, well you know how it is - inital release, low volume |
| 18:53.52 | CosmicPenguin | And quite frankly, the Wyse name sells |
| 18:54.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea $350 is about 2x most of the others right now |
| 18:54.25 | fishhead- | geode seems like a ok cpu for low performance stuff |
| 18:54.41 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, I just make the damn things |
| 18:54.42 | fishhead- | hey prpp |
| 18:54.46 | CosmicPenguin | I don't give three shits about what the price is |
| 18:54.46 | fishhead- | how is the new trends |
| 18:54.53 | fishhead- | or whoever they say that |
| 18:55.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 18:55.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 19:33.31 | CosmicPenguin | Landscaping supplies are 'spensive |
| 19:34.04 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
| 19:49.45 | cbrake | Hmm, just got a call from AMD -- wanted to schedule some time to talk about my experiences w/ Geodes :-) |
| 19:50.11 | file[laptop] | oh no, RUN! |
| 19:50.22 | cbrake | hehe |
| 19:51.16 | CosmicPenguin | cbrake: nuh-uh... |
| 19:51.19 | CosmicPenguin | cbrake: seriously? |
| 19:51.50 | cbrake | yeah, not sure where they got my name. I did sign up on the development web site -- so probably there. |
| 19:53.06 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: I did a little WinCE work on a GX2 project about a year ago, but thats about it. |
| 19:53.37 | CosmicPenguin | Thats really strange |
| 19:53.46 | CosmicPenguin | Well, be brutally honest |
| 19:53.57 | file[laptop] | I find the AMD site so hard to navigate, gives me a headache |
| 19:54.02 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: heh - you and me both |
| 19:54.54 | cbrake | file[laptop]: OK, I'll add the website to my list of gripes when they call :-) |
| 19:55.00 | file[laptop] | haha |
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| 20:08.37 | CosmicPenguin | cbrake: yeah - feel free to let em have it - maybe they'll listen if it comes from a customer |
| 20:08.49 | CosmicPenguin | I think the marketing guys are blocking on my extension number |
| 20:13.11 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: yeah, that's typical -- most organizations are very resistant to any type of change in my experience -- after awhile it is easier to just shut up which is not good. |
| 20:14.07 | CosmicPenguin | Its not in my nature to shutup about things that piss me off |
| 20:14.12 | CosmicPenguin | often to my own personal ruin |
| 20:17.27 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: been there. People seldom understand Logic -- they have to be sold -- and I'm not a very good salesman yet -- too many more interesting things to do. I did read a book recently called "Solution Selling" which was pretty good. |
| 20:18.11 | chouimat | wow ... no wonder the .com crashed ... too many clueless morons are allowed to start a company and worse of it have kids |
| 20:24.46 | file[laptop] | yay kergoth! |
| 20:29.57 | kergoth | hey |
| 20:32.33 | CosmicPenguin | The GUI now mostly uses GTK+2 widgets - Adobe Reader |
| 20:33.10 | CosmicPenguin | yay |
| 20:40.31 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: isn't that piece of plastic on the underside of the mambo annoying? |
| 20:41.18 | file[laptop] | what piece of plastic? |
| 20:41.26 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:41.35 | CosmicPenguin | that sheet of plastic protecting the board from the metal case/ |
| 20:41.39 | file[laptop] | ah yes |
| 20:42.22 | file[laptop] | it's... interesting |
| 20:42.54 | CosmicPenguin | it's.....annoying |
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| 22:51.46 | CosmicPenguin | yeah? what? |
| 22:53.25 | file[laptop] | waddup? |
| 22:53.31 | CosmicPenguin | nada |
| 22:53.53 | CosmicPenguin | Trying to get this image loader to be a bit more sane |
| 22:56.29 | CosmicPenguin | Yay |
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| 23:13.25 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm..... |
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| 23:32.52 | Sgt-Donan | bn |
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