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14:23.54chouimatmorning
14:25.54prpplaguelo
14:27.02prpplagueCosmicPenguin: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7972418070.html
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15:05.28prpplagueok folks, i just posted a message on uclinux-dev mailing list regarding Emsoft
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15:16.35CosmicPenguin533 6 watts?
15:16.36CosmicPenguinhah!
15:16.45CosmicPenguinThat sir, is not portable
15:27.37CosmicPenguinAt Century, we made new products with the "bet you can't write a window manager.  Oh, yeah?" method
15:27.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: there several really good books on amazon
15:27.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i have a list on my laptop
15:28.25CosmicPenguinprpplague: ok, let me rephrase.  When I said software, I meant product, and when I said about I mean our
15:28.43prpplagueahh
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16:08.49CosmicPenguinGPSFan: how's life on the west slope?
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16:17.09GPSFanCosmicPenguin: Hey... I was over in your side last week, drive through loveland, ft.collins etc. Things are tending towards spring here. went skiing last sat. still lots of snow in the mts.
16:17.27CosmicPenguinMan, it was so nice this weekend
16:17.32CosmicPenguinbit cloudy and rainy today though
16:17.56CosmicPenguinfile: wassup?
16:18.05filesitting in my bed at the hotel
16:18.16CosmicPenguinfile: tell me what you know about the Asterisk@Home project - good stuff, or marketing fluff?
16:18.34filethey market it?
16:19.04fileanyway, it's just a packaged asterisk with stuff... like a web gui
16:20.11fileI'm liking switchvox myself, they're in the asterisk pavilion and we went out to supper with them lastnight
16:20.14filenice people, great product
16:21.41CosmicPenguinfile: sell some geodes while you're there... :)
16:21.58filenope, no geodes to sell
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17:40.15CosmicPenguinRead only files in tarballs must die now!
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18:26.09prpplaguefor anyone that cares - http://mailman.uclinux.org/pipermail/uclinux-dev/2005-March/031363.html
18:26.27prpplagueandersee: emsoft is still claiming their kernel modules aren't covered under the gpl
18:31.52anderseeprpplague: sigh
18:32.03anderseeperhaps time to sue?
18:32.10prpplagueandersee: probably need to get you involved soon as well
18:32.21prpplagueandersee: i'm still gathering evidence on the busybox side
18:32.47prpplagueandersee: looks like they did some changes to busybox to mount their special fs on the rom chips
18:33.19anderseeno busybox sources released either I presume?
18:35.34prpplagueandersee: well their line is they didn't modify busybox
18:35.42prpplagueandersee: so no need to distibute it
18:38.29CosmicPenguinheh
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18:38.43CosmicPenguinyou can't mound the rom chips with bb-1.00 I take it?
18:39.38CosmicPenguinI can't type, I take it
18:52.09prpplaguehehe, i have half a mind to make a submission to /.
18:53.27CosmicPenguinIsn't there a GPL compliance site?
18:54.26prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea, but it seems pretty dead
18:54.35CosmicPenguinyeah, thats the impression I got last time I was there
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18:55.06prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i plan to submit a report to fsf.org later today
18:59.11prpplagueandersee: hey, question, we've pulled a copy of the rom out via jtag, the rom contains one proprietary application, does that mean we can't post the rom image?
19:02.48anderseeI suppose you could overwrite that one app with an equivalent number of bytes from /dev/zero...
19:03.16anderseemake it clear you nuked that one app, and I think you should be ok
19:04.06prpplagueandersee: hmm, yea
19:04.28prpplagueandersee: would have to find the exact address and length
19:06.53anderseewhat sortof filesystem is it?
19:07.06prpplagueromfs
19:08.23anderseemight be simplest to loop mount it, extract the files, replace the magic binary, and build a new romfs
19:08.49prpplagueandersee: yea
19:08.59prpplagueandersee: but they that leaves the kernel
19:09.15prpplagueandersee: if they are saying those two sections are proprietary.......
19:10.23prpplaguewe need a better procedure for enforcement
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19:10.49prpplaguepb_: hey hey its mr. pb&j
19:11.03pb_hey plague
19:13.19prpplaguepb_: http://mailman.uclinux.org/pipermail/uclinux-dev/2005-March/031363.html
19:14.47pb_aha
19:14.51pb_on the emsoft warpath again?
19:15.13prpplaguepb_: yea sorta
19:15.23prpplaguepb_: i just hate it when ppl abuse the GPL
19:15.42pb_like you say, there's only so much you can do unless you actually hold the copyright in some of the code they have misappropriated.
19:20.11prpplaguepb_: yep, well atleast ppl should know emsoft is sponging off other ppls work
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21:15.17chouimatI think I just saw my brain leaving .... damn you ipsec
22:19.59CosmicPenguinhe's drinking diet caffine free diet pepsi
22:20.07CosmicPenguinFOOL!
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