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| 01:16.36 | prpplague | mmmm, my son put spree in my beer |
| 01:19.50 | prpplague | andersee: you on aeronix like a flea on a hounddog? |
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| 02:11.59 | prpplague | chouimat: got any good oggs lately? |
| 02:13.23 | chouimat | prpplague: I have some but I'm watching 24 now so ... in 47 minutes |
| 02:14.24 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, np |
| 02:22.04 | chouimat | prpplague: I have some finntroll (bunch of Finns singing in Swedish about Trolls) |
| 02:22.43 | chouimat | prpplague: and they are polka influenced ... it's death metal |
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| 03:02.08 | chouimat | prpplague: ping |
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| 13:27.56 | prpplague | morning all |
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| 15:06.54 | sorphin | prpplague: moin islander |
| 15:06.56 | sorphin | GPSFan: moin |
| 15:10.31 | prpplague | hey |
| 15:11.24 | sorphin | prpplague: sup? |
| 15:13.20 | prpplague | nada, just stressin |
| 15:14.56 | file[laptop] | I should head to school |
| 15:17.15 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - get out of here! |
| 15:17.18 | CosmicPenguin | oh, and morning,... :) |
| 15:17.37 | file[laptop] | well my exam is in 2 hours... |
| 15:18.08 | file[laptop] | BUT I have an iPod, with music... |
| 15:28.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wish you could see this new board |
| 15:28.27 | [g2] | sorphin, this isn't your WIFI phone device, but I thought it was interesting http://www.rapidvoip.com/products.html |
| 15:29.22 | file[laptop] | talking to me? |
| 15:29.56 | [g2] | file[laptop], where you the one wanting to play with the WIFI phone ? |
| 15:30.02 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 15:30.25 | file[laptop] | that's just another common USB driven VoIP device... so many of those |
| 15:30.25 | [g2] | sorry, so many channels so little time :) |
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| 15:32.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is that your companies new toy? |
| 15:37.05 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:37.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: having some problems with the jtag though |
| 15:40.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the entire system is just a little longer than a cf card |
| 15:42.30 | sorphin | new plague toy? where? |
| 15:42.40 | prpplague | sorphin: nowhere |
| 15:42.44 | prpplague | sorphin: still testing |
| 15:43.52 | sorphin | prpplague: then how's the penguin know about it? :P |
| 15:45.06 | CosmicPenguin | He's discussed it before in this forum... :) |
| 15:46.01 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:46.05 | sorphin | k |
| 15:48.02 | prpplague | sorphin: LH79520, ram, flash, mmc socket, two leds, jtag header, and expansion bus, all on a board the same size as the average 802.11b cf card |
| 15:49.01 | sorphin | prpplague: ah, the thing you told me you were planning |
| 15:49.43 | prpplague | sorphin: not really me |
| 15:49.53 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm just doing the work |
| 15:49.57 | prpplague | sorphin: :) |
| 15:50.15 | prpplague | sorphin: basically doing some feedback and doing the BSP |
| 15:50.41 | sorphin | prpplague: uh huh ;) |
| 15:51.33 | sorphin | prpplague: give youself credit where you deserve it :P |
| 15:52.50 | prpplague | anyone know of a good calc besides bc? |
| 15:52.59 | prpplague | for embedded |
| 15:54.20 | CosmicPenguin | you want just text based, or graphical? |
| 15:54.24 | CosmicPenguin | bc is fine for the text monkeys |
| 15:55.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we have a front end, just need something smaller than bc |
| 15:55.42 | CosmicPenguin | ahh |
| 15:55.46 | CosmicPenguin | doesn't busybox have a bc? |
| 15:55.55 | prpplague | don't think so |
| 15:56.24 | CosmicPenguin | I guess not |
| 15:56.36 | CosmicPenguin | See, now there would be a useful applet... :) |
| 15:57.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh bb has dc |
| 15:58.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hate that syntax though |
| 15:58.30 | CosmicPenguin | I know, me too |
| 15:58.33 | CosmicPenguin | I can never get used to it |
| 15:59.39 | prpplague | that might be a beoych to get the front end working with |
| 15:59.47 | T`|Hel | sorphin: lol.. got ur mail.. i hardly ever use gmail |
| 15:59.56 | T`|Hel | sup prpplague |
| 16:00.04 | prpplague | T`|Hel: hey |
| 16:00.10 | prpplague | argh, i have too much i need to work on |
| 16:00.21 | T`|Hel | damn.. ur the 2nd person who said that since morning!! |
| 16:00.50 | sorphin | T`: heh |
| 16:01.51 | T`|Heli | hmm.. boring and slow day today.. atleast its not too cold outside :) |
| 16:09.17 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:14.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gexpr/ |
| 16:16.54 | sorphin | prpplague + barbados = good times |
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| 16:18.25 | prpplague | sorphin: i sure hope so |
| 16:19.52 | sorphin | prpplague: hey, you got donna there to get you acquainted w/ it all |
| 16:27.20 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, actually, i know more about the island than she does |
| 16:28.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:29.12 | sorphin | prpplague: ok, she'll help make you feel more comfortable :P |
| 16:29.18 | prpplague | sorphin: almost bought some stuff on ebay last night |
| 16:29.21 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:29.50 | sorphin | 9am *ugh* |
| 16:30.06 | sorphin | 325 for that, 65 for termite inspection |
| 16:30.17 | T`|Heli | just inspect urself |
| 16:30.20 | sorphin | uhh |
| 16:30.22 | sorphin | no |
| 16:30.23 | prpplague | sorphin: someone in england was selling an envelope sent from barbados in 1837 which included an original deed for a house in christ church, slave ownership papers, and citizenship papers |
| 16:30.29 | sorphin | T`: it don't work that way |
| 16:30.51 | T`|Heli | sorphin: i c. u need some certification? |
| 16:30.54 | sorphin | T`|Heli: you want someone qualified, to find (if there is anything), anything that's wrong before you close on the house |
| 16:30.56 | sorphin | Yes |
| 16:30.59 | sorphin | and a license |
| 16:31.04 | GPSFan | sorphin: mornin.. congrats on the house, pix look nice, big garage eh? |
| 16:31.07 | T`|Heli | aah |
| 16:31.11 | sorphin | prpplague: heh |
| 16:31.21 | sorphin | GPSFan: 26' deep |
| 16:31.41 | GPSFan | sorphin: space for a few mini's... |
| 16:31.47 | sorphin | GPSFan: heh |
| 16:31.56 | sorphin | yeah, could fit proly 3 |
| 16:32.00 | sorphin | not doing that tho |
| 16:32.14 | GPSFan | shop... |
| 16:32.14 | sorphin | her car, my car, then the back 1/2 will be an enclosed workshop |
| 16:32.18 | sorphin | ya |
| 16:32.34 | GPSFan | can't have too many tools. |
| 16:32.38 | sorphin | indeed |
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| 16:32.49 | sorphin | GPSFan: will be nice to finally have a place to work on things |
| 16:33.20 | GPSFan | sorphin: beware, stuff expands to fill the available space ;>) |
| 16:33.26 | sorphin | GPSFan: hehe |
| 16:33.51 | sorphin | mine isn't aluminum, and the screw holes suck |
| 16:33.51 | GPSFan | btdt, & got the teeshirts (boxes) to prove it.. |
| 16:34.01 | sorphin | yeah |
| 16:34.37 | sorphin | and there's mr grumpy himself |
| 16:34.42 | sorphin | ~tuesday |
| 16:34.43 | ibot | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 16:34.47 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 16:34.47 | ibot | kergoth: :) |
| 16:36.26 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm... maybe its time to start hitting e-bay |
| 16:36.30 | CosmicPenguin | I need a dedicated web server |
| 16:36.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:36.33 | CosmicPenguin | and a rack |
| 16:36.56 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: gotta measure tho and make sure a rack will even fit in this basement (high enough ceiling) |
| 16:36.58 | CosmicPenguin | And a switch |
| 16:37.14 | CosmicPenguin | My current high performance computing center in the basement is based on a picnic table |
| 16:37.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:37.51 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin: better than on the floor ;>) |
| 16:38.22 | CosmicPenguin | You know, now that I think about it |
| 16:38.57 | CosmicPenguin | The staircase to my basement isn't finished - I could get some really long lag bolts, and a few nuts |
| 16:39.04 | sorphin | :) |
| 16:39.10 | CosmicPenguin | And sort of suspend a rack into the studs |
| 16:39.17 | sorphin | the channel's full of a few nuts ;) |
| 16:39.39 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 16:39.42 | CosmicPenguin | yes in deedy |
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| 17:15.56 | cdm | morning. |
| 17:16.03 | pb_ | hi cdm |
| 17:16.05 | kergoth | dont remind me |
| 17:17.46 | sorphin | cdm: moin |
| 17:20.17 | cdm | hahah..poor kergoth |
| 18:56.30 | CosmicPenguin | Quick - I need somebody's favorite livecd / Koppix distro |
| 18:57.44 | sorphin | uh |
| 18:57.50 | sorphin | knoppix distro? |
| 18:58.02 | CosmicPenguin | Or something based on Knoppix, i guess |
| 18:58.08 | CosmicPenguin | Like morphix.. :) |
| 18:58.14 | sorphin | last i checked, there's knoppix, then there's a couple breakoffs, i.e. Astrisix |
| 18:58.16 | sorphin | etc |
| 18:59.51 | CosmicPenguin | ri8ght |
| 18:59.59 | CosmicPenguin | I just need something that plays well on its own from a binary file |
| 19:00.25 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:09.39 | sorphin | [dans@wibble ~]$ file file |
| 19:09.39 | sorphin | file: empty |
| 19:11.36 | CosmicPenguin | Interesting.... |
| 19:11.46 | CosmicPenguin | stupid X, talk over the damn network |
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| 19:16.41 | sorphin | TimRiker: moin |
| 19:16.56 | cdm | hey TimRiker - you not at the CELF meeting today? |
| 19:19.18 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey |
| 19:19.44 | prpplague | TimRiker: some poster on the yahoo zipit group wants to know which items you have copyright on |
| 19:19.55 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.56 | prpplague | TimRiker: i suspect he's from zeroniz |
| 19:20.02 | prpplague | aeronix |
| 19:20.14 | jacques | they don't even begin to get it |
| 19:20.19 | jacques | boggles the mind |
| 19:20.52 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:21.01 | TimRiker | cdm: yep. sitting here on the back row heckling. |
| 19:21.50 | TimRiker | prpplague: possible, yes. I think I'll tell him to grep the sources and find out. That way we could have proof that he's seen them. ;-) |
| 19:22.23 | CosmicPenguin | ok - brb, gotta reboot X |
| 19:24.02 | sorphin | TimRiker: heh |
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| 19:25.43 | prpplague^2 | TimRiker: yea, thats whay i was gonna post, but i figured you'd do that |
| 19:27.58 | jacques | what do they intend to do? negotiate licenses with all the copyright holders? do they realize how many ppl have contributed to bb alone? |
| 19:28.11 | cdm | Those aeronix guys work with Portal Player? That is interesting. |
| 19:40.45 | jacques | or maybe they intend to remove the GPL licensed portions |
| 19:42.58 | jacques | (either way, they just don't seen to comprehend) |
| 19:44.57 | TimRiker | andersee: wake up and get down here. ;-) |
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| 19:48.10 | prpplague^2 | hehe |
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| 20:10.36 | TimRiker | ~httpdtype www.celinux.org |
| 20:10.56 | TimRiker | ~httpdtype tree.celinuxforum.org |
| 20:11.08 | jacques | neat |
| 20:11.22 | jacques | ~httpdtype www.apple.com |
| 20:11.38 | jacques | ~botsnack |
| 20:11.38 | ibot | thanks, jacques |
| 20:27.20 | prpplague | and? |
| 20:34.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: crap having problems with thttpd |
| 20:38.10 | CosmicPenguin | is it blowing up? |
| 20:38.30 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm.... flaming web server |
| 20:38.40 | file[laptop] | the server, the server, the server's on fire |
| 20:38.59 | CosmicPenguin | We don't need no water, let the mother fscker burn |
| 20:39.01 | kergoth | we dont need no water, let the mother f*cker burn. |
| 20:39.02 | kergoth | aw |
| 20:39.04 | kergoth | you beat me |
| 20:39.06 | CosmicPenguin | hah! |
| 20:39.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:39.14 | file[laptop] | kergoth: You're losing your touch |
| 20:39.20 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:39.39 | file[laptop] | poor you |
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| 21:37.10 | chouimat | re |
| 21:40.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey how do you normaly remap a key, i.e. press the key numberic keypad + gives you a letter A |
| 21:40.59 | CosmicPenguin | x or console? |
| 21:41.39 | prpplague | console |
| 21:41.54 | prpplague | you use loadkeys ? |
| 21:42.48 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - thats probably the best way |
| 21:43.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i don't see in the man page where you can do single line commands |
| 21:44.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nm looks like you can pipe to it |
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| 22:16.12 | TimRiker | prpplague: listening to gerg now talking 'bout uClinux |
| 22:16.20 | prpplague | TimRiker: coool |
| 22:16.34 | prpplague | TimRiker: unger? |
| 22:16.36 | TimRiker | he thought the zipit was cool. |
| 22:16.43 | prpplague | cool |
| 22:16.54 | prpplague | hehe, you need to show him my pixter page, hehe |
| 22:17.44 | prpplague | TimRiker: anything good about super small uclinux ? |
| 22:18.15 | TimRiker | prpplague: did already. we were looking at it about an hour ago. |
| 22:18.38 | prpplague | TimRiker: cool, any comments? |
| 22:22.33 | TimRiker | all intro info now. andersee and I are hacking his wireless. |
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| 22:23.30 | TimRiker | =) |
| 22:23.47 | CosmicPenguin | Shame on you! |
| 22:24.14 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: we remotely shutdown his powerbook that's up in his room and then took over the hardware address so he couild get on wireless down here. ;-) |
| 22:24.25 | CosmicPenguin | ahh... |
| 22:24.34 | CosmicPenguin | but I was more concerned that you were using Dells |
| 22:24.36 | TimRiker | hence the dell powerbook. ;-) |
| 22:24.42 | andersee | so my Dell now claims it has an apple MAC adr |
| 22:24.49 | jacques | ah lol |
| 22:24.55 | TimRiker | no surprise there. ;-) |
| 22:25.22 | prpplague | TimRiker: fun fun |
| 22:29.11 | TimRiker | woot! you see the zipit post re GPL? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/message/51 |
| 22:30.09 | jacques | and the stalling begins.... |
| 22:30.15 | TimRiker | hehe. |
| 22:31.06 | jacques | uhh, we harassed TimRiker at his workplace because we always *intended* to release the source... |
| 22:31.08 | TimRiker | must be an RSN clause in thier version of the GPL that's not in mine. |
| 22:32.46 | jacques | the smartest thing they have said so far "the potential opportunities to extend its capabilities" |
| 22:33.35 | andersee | extending it to do spiffy new things might make it worth buying one |
| 22:33.50 | jacques | it would certainly gain my interest |
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| 22:37.08 | TimRiker | Looks like a nice ssh-in-my-pocket device to have around. |
| 22:39.00 | sorphin | heh, "Ralph" |
| 22:39.21 | prpplague | TimRiker: cool |
| 22:40.24 | prpplague | andersee did you have to get your pappy involved? |
| 22:40.29 | andersee | slapping dropbear onto a zippit would be a killer application |
| 22:40.51 | andersee | prpplague: too busy, I'd not even talked to him about it yet |
| 22:41.00 | prpplague | andersee: ahh |
| 22:41.07 | prpplague | andersee: conference going well? |
| 22:42.05 | sorphin | once again, someone from my group is going to the next Nanog, and i won't be, because, well, i can't travel for one |
| 22:42.44 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:43.45 | andersee | prpplague: going well thus far... |
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| 23:33.28 | sorphin | TimRiker: re |
| 23:34.15 | prpplague | hmm, i need a good keyboard reading routine |
| 23:39.05 | sorphin | haha |
| 23:39.13 | sorphin | the zipit wireless website has a typo |
| 23:39.26 | sorphin | "No pop-ups, Spim or Viruses" |
| 23:39.28 | sorphin | Spim? |
| 23:39.32 | sorphin | wtf is Spim? |
| 23:40.37 | *** join/#elinux andersee (~andersee@206.170.30.2) |
| 23:40.37 | *** mode/#elinux [+o andersee] by ChanServ |
| 23:41.11 | sorphin | andersee: your fav new company can't spell |
| 23:41.44 | TimRiker | spim, spim, spim, spim. wonderful spim. |
| 23:42.43 | CosmicPenguin | You spim me round, like a record, right round |
| 23:43.46 | TimRiker | ~spell spim |
| 23:43.47 | ibot | possible spellings for spim: spin Sim Spam spam skim slim spic spit swim spume spumy shim Spain spine spiny spun sip |
| 23:44.48 | TimRiker | I go spimming / spimming in water / spimming in the pool / spimming is cool / I go spimming. |
| 23:45.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:45.11 | sorphin | TimRiker: what color'd you buy? |
| 23:45.31 | TimRiker | sorphin: got charcol. shouda picked up pink. ;-) |
| 23:45.57 | sorphin | uhhhh |
| 23:46.18 | TimRiker | pink is the new black. you hadn't heard? |
| 23:46.46 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:47.25 | TimRiker | no BZFlag demo though. =/ |
| 23:47.34 | sorphin | :( |
| 23:47.39 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 23:47.40 | sorphin | rotfl |
| 23:47.47 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I'll get right on that |
| 23:47.50 | sorphin | andersee: does he not know who you are? |
| 23:48.01 | andersee | sorphin: clearly not |
| 23:48.03 | TimRiker | 'parrently not. |
| 23:48.11 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 23:48.15 | CosmicPenguin | "Do you know who I am? No busybox for you. NEXT!" |
| 23:48.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ha |
| 23:48.35 | TimRiker | must say he did keep a straight face though. very impressive. |
| 23:49.17 | TimRiker | new clause in the busybox license. if you use dietlibc or uc-libc in any of your products we revoke your rights to uClibc. |
| 23:49.28 | andersee | I managed to supress the stream of nasty replies that came to mind |
| 23:49.32 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - thats so bitkeeper |
| 23:49.32 | TimRiker | s/busybox/uClibc/ |
| 23:49.43 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: heh. hellO larry. |
| 23:50.08 | TimRiker | andersee: ah, let em out... ;-) |
| 23:50.22 | sorphin | andersee: show him who he's messin with ;) |
| 23:50.47 | andersee | TimRiker: I would like to poke further at directfb... Seems to have some merit |
| 23:51.01 | andersee | would be nice to have a bit more help from the window manager |
| 23:51.14 | TimRiker | andersee: agreed. I'll at least hook it up on an ARM and see how it performs. |
| 23:52.03 | andersee | making apps draw their own window decorations is a nice option, but not a sane default |
| 23:53.03 | andersee | I wonder how well directfb would work on the Z-6000L |
| 23:53.25 | CosmicPenguin | probably wouldn't be too bad |
| 23:54.04 | CosmicPenguin | Its on our list of things to port to the Geode |
| 23:56.18 | andersee | Itd also be nice if directfb had some sortof builtin default widget set |
| 23:56.24 | andersee | least as an option |
| 23:56.54 | andersee | would allow much lighter weight apps than using qt, gtk, etc |
| 23:58.12 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: that has been a failing in wicrowindows, x, etc |
| 23:58.49 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: if wicrowindows had included some widgets it would have been much cooler.. |
| 23:59.08 | CosmicPenguin | toolkit was always a problem |
| 23:59.25 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag geode |
| 23:59.28 | ibot | ACTION destroys geode with a guided missle |
| 23:59.52 | andersee | also wonder about device support.... |
| 23:59.53 | CosmicPenguin | The problem with open source graphical engines is that you always have the debate |