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| 01:20.37 | T0mW | gadzooks Batman! |
| 01:20.51 | T0mW | prpplague: hey |
| 01:43.17 | prpplague | T0mW: hey |
| 01:43.22 | prpplague | T0mW: que paso? |
| 01:43.43 | T0mW | prpplague: you've been having so much fun, you overlooked that jflash source |
| 01:44.04 | prpplague | T0mW: oh shit |
| 01:44.07 | T0mW | prpplague: it's ok |
| 01:44.08 | prpplague | T0mW: sorry dude |
| 01:44.19 | T0mW | prpplague: I've been working at the LCD interface |
| 01:44.19 | prpplague | T0mW: it will be monday before i can get it |
| 01:45.00 | T0mW | prpplague: np, I've also got an ISA card to hook up to this thing. I need to get the 9bit Quad uarts working |
| 01:45.13 | T0mW | prpplague: so, I've got lots to keep me busy |
| 01:45.27 | prpplague | T0mW: we got something weird going on on the board |
| 01:45.37 | prpplague | T0mW: we are gonna hook up the scope on it monday |
| 01:45.38 | T0mW | prpplague: plus, printing out PDFs |
| 01:45.54 | prpplague | T0mW: do a complete verify on the address and data bus |
| 01:45.57 | T0mW | prpplague: still with that flash problem? |
| 01:47.05 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 01:47.15 | prpplague | T0mW: my gut feeling is that there is something wrong |
| 01:47.24 | prpplague | T0mW: but i've not be able to pin it down |
| 01:47.44 | T0mW | prpplague: may I make a suggestion? |
| 01:47.56 | prpplague | T0mW: of course |
| 01:48.19 | T0mW | get the gerber files from drafting, then get a copy of GCPrevue, it is a windoze app + free download. |
| 01:48.48 | T0mW | prpplague: you can then follow traces easier that way by using the gerber files |
| 01:49.39 | T0mW | You want the whole package of gerbers: drill file, aperature list + layers |
| 01:50.10 | T0mW | GCPrevue is what I use to check a board before I sent it out to have it made. They build the PCBs from the Gerber data |
| 01:50.32 | prpplague | T0mW: 1) linux only shop |
| 01:50.39 | T0mW | vmware |
| 01:50.50 | prpplague | T0mW: 2) i have all the ppl that are on the dev team with docs |
| 01:51.05 | prpplague | T0mW: so basically we are doing a complete hardware review monday |
| 01:51.10 | T0mW | GCPrevue is free download, is very effective, is supported and only runs on windoze |
| 01:51.52 | T0mW | IIRC, it runs under Win98 or Win2k just fine |
| 01:52.50 | T0mW | besides, if you can read gerbers, then you are only a step or two from knowing how to do your own PCBs. |
| 01:53.43 | T0mW | prpplague: another trick |
| 01:54.43 | T0mW | prpplague: take a bare board outside in the sunlight and hold it up so that you can see the reflection of the solder within the feed thru holes. We had a bastch of boards some in where they "forgot" to plate the holes. |
| 01:55.02 | T0mW | s/bsatch/batch/ |
| 01:55.55 | cdm-ibook | I have seen boards not have entire signal layers too. |
| 01:56.01 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:56.08 | T0mW | not good either! |
| 01:57.02 | T0mW | Also seen them where one of the internal copper layers was shifted a "few" thousanths, thus shorting the heck out of a lot of signals. |
| 01:59.30 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh |
| 01:59.47 | prpplague | T0mW: well these guys are not newbies to pcb design |
| 01:59.58 | T0mW | nod |
| 01:59.59 | prpplague | T0mW: i just made them aware of the issues friday |
| 02:00.12 | prpplague | T0mW: so i suspect something will be identified soon |
| 02:00.25 | T0mW | "heads will roll!" |
| 02:00.50 | T0mW | prpplague: this is a BGA board? |
| 02:01.27 | prpplague | T0mW: no, fpga |
| 02:01.39 | prpplague | T0mW: sorry too much beer |
| 02:01.49 | prpplague | T0mW: lqfp |
| 02:01.57 | T0mW | I meant, is there a BGA device on the board (Ball Grid Array)? |
| 02:02.03 | prpplague | T0mW: no |
| 02:02.33 | T0mW | ok, then it didn't cost all that much to fabricate & populate some test boards. |
| 02:03.31 | T0mW | ok, enjoy your beer |
| 02:03.38 | prpplague | one sec |
| 02:06.33 | T0mW | heh, "DC Core Supply Active Current ---- TBD" |
| 02:06.50 | T0mW | now that's what I call a spec |
| 02:08.11 | T0mW | about the only thing that has been determined is that the Card Engine runs on 3.3V & 1.8V over a 10% range |
| 02:11.17 | chouimat | hi T0mW prpplague |
| 02:12.29 | T0mW | good evening |
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