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04:38.27 | kergoth | hey sorphin |
04:40.58 | sorphin | kergoth: sup |
04:43.55 | kergoth | sorphin: not much. its looking like i may qualify for disability pay continuance |
04:44.00 | kergoth | so might get paid for this leave i took |
04:44.03 | kergoth | which would be sweet |
04:45.50 | sorphin | good |
04:45.59 | sorphin | btw, saw ladder 49 |
04:46.00 | sorphin | twas good |
04:46.08 | kergoth | cool |
04:47.18 | sorphin | kergoth: how long you out for? |
04:48.31 | kergoth | sorphin: dont know exactly, the current plan of attack is for me to start work monday 4 hours a day, from home, to get a feel for whether or not its fixed |
04:48.37 | kergoth | then the next week, go to part time in the office |
04:48.41 | kergoth | then go full time after that |
04:49.28 | kergoth | need to call my boss on monday and let him know |
04:49.37 | kergoth | and call the nurse and check on the pay thing |
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06:19.32 | sorphin | T0mW: sup old geezer |
06:19.47 | T0mW | :P |
06:20.45 | sorphin | well? :P |
06:20.52 | T0mW | bitchin' about rpm repositories, this package is not in that repository, that repository claims to have it but its' hdlist.cz is out of date... |
06:20.53 | T0mW | :( |
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06:21.06 | sorphin | ahh |
06:21.08 | sorphin | oops |
06:21.19 | sorphin | T0mW: completed 1st week at the new gig |
06:22.02 | T0mW | I've had it, I'm going to assemble my own repository for this stuff, go out and manually download the packages that are missing and then put them into MY repository! |
06:22.42 | T0mW | sorphin: you gonna stay there? |
06:23.17 | sorphin | T0mW: most likely.. and kinda have to when i'm on probation |
06:23.18 | sorphin | :P |
06:24.33 | T0mW | yeah |
06:24.53 | T0mW | Well, VIA still hasn't gotten their act together with the C3 processor. |
06:25.31 | sorphin | it's just ex Cyrix crap |
06:25.33 | sorphin | :P |
06:25.42 | sorphin | oh wait |
06:26.11 | sorphin | yeah, it's cyrix |
06:26.18 | sorphin | cuz amd has national's junk |
06:26.37 | T0mW | I've got two EPIA C3 800MHz boards here to build up some windoze boxes. I stuck Mandrake 10 (2.6 kernel) on one and MythTV. HOURS (!) later, I had stuff compiled, then, when I run myth setup, the thing aborts with "Illegal Instruction", I said "fsck it". |
06:27.23 | T0mW | poor little thing had all it could do to do 40 Frames per Second with glxgears. |
06:27.50 | T0mW | it was interesting though. |
06:30.03 | T0mW | I've been building up an ITX mythtv box, just to see how cheap I can make one. cost-wise |
06:30.37 | T0mW | bttv vs. hauppauge, C3 vs. Celeron-III, etc. |
06:30.48 | Soopaman | TiVo!! |
06:30.52 | Soopaman | :D |
06:30.54 | T0mW | faugh |
06:31.03 | T0mW | ~bitchslap Soopaman |
06:31.05 | ibot | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Soopaman |
06:31.20 | T0mW | Soopaman: MythTV ~ |
06:31.20 | Soopaman | don't tell me you're another ex-tivo dev |
06:31.29 | T0mW | Soopaman: MythTV != TiVo |
06:31.50 | T0mW | MythTV is much better! |
06:31.50 | Soopaman | i know that |
06:31.53 | T0mW | ok |
06:31.54 | T0mW | heh |
06:31.56 | Soopaman | i don't know about that |
06:31.56 | sorphin | Soopaman: there's nothing 'fascinating" about tivo |
06:32.12 | T0mW | sorphin: yeah, it costs less than $200 |
06:32.24 | sorphin | Soopaman: the only 'feature' is it thinking it knows what you want to watch |
06:32.34 | Soopaman | yeah, and it doesn't take 80 years to setup |
06:32.34 | T0mW | that is what is "fascinating", it don't do much for $200 though |
06:32.36 | sorphin | T0mW: it used to cost $500 when i was involved |
06:32.38 | Soopaman | like myth often does |
06:32.54 | sorphin | T0mW: the REASON tivos cost so little now |
06:33.03 | sorphin | is they subsidize the HW |
06:33.10 | sorphin | you pay for their "Service" |
06:33.33 | sorphin | Soopaman: myth allows you to do what you want |
06:33.40 | sorphin | a tivo, you have to take what they give you |
06:33.45 | T0mW | Soopaman: yeah, I'm collecting some Mandrake RPMs for 0.16 tonight, I want to install Mandrake 10 then "urpmi mythtv-suite" (without Thac's dependancy problems) |
06:34.23 | Soopaman | sorphin, kinda |
06:34.34 | sorphin | Soopaman: uh.. kinda? |
06:34.40 | Soopaman | myth was alright, but i didn't like how clunky it was |
06:34.51 | T0mW | Soopaman: getting better thought |
06:35.00 | T0mW | s/thought/though/ |
06:35.04 | sorphin | T0mW: monmotha's myth works great apparently |
06:35.13 | sorphin | dunno what your failure is :P |
06:35.38 | T0mW | Soopaman: I have a 720G video volume, 140+ episodes of StarGate-SG1 so far |
06:35.48 | Soopaman | cool |
06:35.55 | Soopaman | what tv card are you using? |
06:36.05 | Soopaman | sorphin, so are you gonna sell me your s2's? |
06:36.28 | Soopaman | T0mW, that's what i'm building right now |
06:36.37 | T0mW | :) |
06:36.38 | Soopaman | trying to decide on a fs for it |
06:36.44 | T0mW | XFS ! |
06:36.50 | Soopaman | looks like it will be XFS + sqlite |
06:36.52 | Soopaman | heheh |
06:36.56 | T0mW | don't have to fsck when you hard reset! |
06:36.57 | Soopaman | so we aren't that far off |
06:37.14 | T0mW | rock solid fs so far |
06:37.27 | sorphin | Soopaman: S2, not S2s, and proly |
06:37.51 | Soopaman | sorphin, 5 dolla? |
06:37.57 | sorphin | Soopaman: dream on |
06:38.00 | Soopaman | lol |
06:38.06 | Soopaman | i thought you "hated tivo" |
06:38.11 | Soopaman | you lie!! |
06:38.28 | Soopaman | T0mW, have you ever tried reiser? |
06:38.30 | sorphin | Soopaman: just because i "hate tivo" doesn't mean i'm gonna screw myself by selling you something worth more for $5 |
06:38.46 | Soopaman | sorphin, how much is it worth to you? |
06:38.46 | sorphin | ~lart soopaman for speaking "Reiser" |
06:38.53 | T0mW | Soopaman: yeah, but doing an fsck on 700+Gig takes a looooooooooooooooooooooong time! |
06:39.03 | sorphin | no talking about ReiserFS :P |
06:39.06 | sorphin | it's a POS |
06:39.09 | Soopaman | oh |
06:39.23 | Soopaman | T0mW, so is that 3 250gb drives? |
06:39.31 | Soopaman | roughly |
06:39.33 | T0mW | Soopaman: it takes about 40 seconds to mount the volume with reiser, it only takes a second or two with XFS |
06:40.26 | sorphin | T0mW: that's because XFS was designed by competent people and in use long before linux |
06:40.36 | T0mW | Soopaman: four actually, of various sizes, I have 820G in the machine, two drives are SATA and the other two are PATA, plus the Plextor 708A |
06:40.37 | sorphin | reiser was came up w/ by a whiner |
06:40.39 | sorphin | :P |
06:40.46 | T0mW | lol |
06:41.31 | sorphin | never lost a byte w/ xfs |
06:41.38 | Soopaman | :D |
06:41.41 | T0mW | I wonder if I can make my own custom distribution CD? |
06:41.41 | sorphin | Soopaman: the "joke" |
06:41.51 | Soopaman | T0mW, like a knoppix? |
06:41.53 | sorphin | is that Hans Reiser whined at Linus to get Reiser into 2.4 |
06:42.04 | Soopaman | oh |
06:42.16 | Soopaman | is linus the "CEO" of linux |
06:42.23 | sorphin | you couldn't pay me to use reiser again |
06:42.29 | T0mW | yeah, but take mandrake and customize the contents of the RPMs and add some more config steps. |
06:42.30 | Soopaman | 'cause i thought he was playing around with transmeta |
06:42.32 | sorphin | Soopaman: you must be joking |
06:42.48 | sorphin | Soopaman: go read the history of linux :P |
06:42.53 | Soopaman | i just don't understand why everyone takes his word as law when it comes to linux |
06:43.03 | sorphin | Soopaman: Linux actually stands for Linus' version of Minix :P |
06:43.05 | Soopaman | "oh linus said this, linus thinks that" |
06:43.10 | sorphin | he WROTE it |
06:43.13 | sorphin | initially |
06:43.19 | T0mW | Soopaman: naw, linus is a programmer, he doesn't want to manage anything but code man! |
06:43.53 | sorphin | ibot: Linus Torvalds? |
06:43.54 | ibot | [linus torvalds] from Finland! |
06:43.57 | sorphin | heh |
06:44.04 | kergoth | heh |
06:44.05 | sorphin | ibot: no snack |
06:44.06 | Soopaman | T0mW, figured that much |
06:44.06 | kergoth | ~linus |
06:44.07 | ibot | from memory, linus is a man with an amazing vocabulary |
06:44.12 | kergoth | heh |
06:44.14 | T0mW | heh |
06:44.17 | T0mW | no shit |
06:44.20 | Soopaman | but everyone seems to hold him as a mythical character |
06:44.29 | Soopaman | almost like kergoth |
06:44.30 | Soopaman | :P |
06:44.36 | T0mW | kergoth: that boy can really use the english language |
06:44.38 | sorphin | Soopaman: uh, and how long have you been in the unix world again? |
06:44.41 | kergoth | eh? |
06:44.50 | sorphin | Soopaman: 2 months? |
06:44.51 | T0mW | kergoth: linus |
06:44.51 | sorphin | :P |
06:44.56 | Soopaman | sorphin, long enough to know you're a shithead :D |
06:45.05 | T0mW | oooh |
06:45.05 | Soopaman | that was the first thing i learned |
06:45.07 | sorphin | Soopaman: you're lucky i'm not an Op still :P |
06:45.11 | Soopaman | then i learnt "ls" |
06:45.12 | Soopaman | hahahaha |
06:45.13 | kergoth | T0mW: yeah, i know, the eh was directed at Soopaman's reference to me |
06:45.17 | T0mW | ah |
06:45.21 | sorphin | Soopaman: or you'd already be +kb |
06:45.36 | sorphin | for life |
06:45.36 | Soopaman | sorphin, why? i thought we were friends :) |
06:45.42 | sorphin | uh |
06:45.45 | sorphin | Not Quite. |
06:45.48 | Soopaman | we've had such great witty exchanges |
06:46.05 | sorphin | Soopaman: you don't know me well enough to get away w/ calling me a shithead |
06:46.20 | sorphin | Soopaman: so go ahead, fly down here. |
06:46.27 | Soopaman | well up here in canada, shithead is taken alot more litely |
06:46.32 | sorphin | ;) |
06:46.51 | sorphin | after all, i'm almost a convicted felon anyways, might as well have a REAL reason for being one :P |
06:46.57 | Soopaman | let's start all over |
06:47.05 | Soopaman | hi my name is ;soop what is yours? |
06:47.13 | Soopaman | why are you a felon? |
06:47.15 | T0mW | shithead |
06:47.22 | sorphin | Soopaman: almost one, bozo |
06:47.24 | Soopaman | hehehe |
06:47.26 | shithead | heh |
06:47.29 | Soopaman | lol |
06:47.34 | sorphin | shithead: you're just an old geezer, tom |
06:47.40 | shithead | somebody call me? |
06:47.48 | Soopaman | nah, i was talking to sorphin |
06:47.52 | Soopaman | heheheheh |
06:47.56 | sorphin | ibot: pee on shithead |
06:47.58 | ibot | ACTION pees on shithead |
06:48.03 | Soopaman | hahaha |
06:48.03 | sorphin | :P |
06:48.09 | sorphin | ibot: pee on Soopaman |
06:48.11 | ibot | ACTION pees on Soopaman |
06:48.12 | Soopaman | hey |
06:48.19 | Soopaman | are you r.kelly? |
06:48.21 | sorphin | ibot: botsnack |
06:48.21 | ibot | thanks, sorphin |
06:48.28 | Soopaman | ibot: candy |
06:48.29 | ibot | from memory, candy is a seven years drawn girl who has the emotional capabilities of a 16 years old she-fish and the social skills of a wall |
06:48.29 | sorphin | Soopaman: excuse me? |
06:48.40 | Soopaman | wtf |
06:48.42 | sorphin | haha |
06:48.46 | sorphin | ibot: botsnack |
06:48.46 | ibot | thanks, sorphin |
06:48.57 | Soopaman | ibot: sorphin |
06:48.58 | ibot | hmm... sorphin is sorphin |
06:48.58 | sorphin | ibot: Soopaman? |
06:48.59 | kergoth | ~factinfo candy |
06:48.59 | ibot | candy -- created by tifeth <~feth@ip-162-208.evhr.net> at Wed Dec 12 23:32:14 2001 (1025 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by Soopaman, 30s ago. |
06:49.13 | sorphin | Soopaman: nice try |
06:49.15 | Soopaman | ibot: t0mw |
06:49.21 | sorphin | it won't find that |
06:49.25 | Soopaman | oh |
06:49.29 | sorphin | ~TomW |
06:49.30 | ibot | well, tomw is at tom@openhardware.net |
06:49.32 | Soopaman | ibot: kergoth |
06:49.33 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, kergoth is Chris Larson, an embedded linux guy at Texas Instruments. Email at kergoth@handhelds.org or clarson@ti.com. Maintains the OpenZaurus and Openembedded projects. |
06:49.39 | Soopaman | cool |
06:49.45 | Soopaman | ibot: soopaman |
06:49.47 | sorphin | Soopaman: T0mW was TomW |
06:49.50 | TomW | ibot: T0mW is at tom@openhardware.net |
06:49.51 | ibot | okay, TomW |
06:49.57 | TomW | ~T0mW |
06:49.58 | ibot | hmm... t0mw is at tom@openhardware.net |
06:50.13 | sorphin | ibot: Soopaman is just some weird Canadian freak eh? |
06:50.14 | ibot | okay, sorphin |
06:50.23 | sorphin | ~soopaman |
06:50.24 | ibot | soopaman is, like, just some weird Canadian freak eh? |
06:50.30 | Soopaman | dang |
06:50.32 | sorphin | ibot: snack |
06:50.33 | ibot | ACTION snack? yes yeaaas yeaaaaaaaaaaas pleaaase :P |
06:50.34 | Soopaman | that's cold |
06:50.46 | sorphin | ibot: nuke Soopaman |
06:50.50 | kergoth | ~emulate kergoth |
06:50.52 | ibot | ACTION mutters about buildsystems and tells people to RTFM. |
06:51.02 | T0mW | heh |
06:51.07 | sorphin | wtf happened to nuke |
06:51.13 | sorphin | ibot: nuke Soopaman |
06:51.23 | sorphin | ~test |
06:51.24 | ibot | Passed |
06:51.40 | sorphin | ~emulate TomW |
06:51.48 | sorphin | ~emulate sorphin |
06:52.01 | kergoth | ~emulate bender |
06:52.02 | ibot | Bite my shiny, metal ass! |
06:52.08 | sorphin | erm |
06:52.09 | Soopaman | ibot: Soopaman is currently peering through your window with world wind.. |
06:52.10 | ibot | ...but soopaman is already something else... |
06:52.10 | sorphin | ibot |
06:52.15 | Soopaman | nuts |
06:52.22 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
06:52.22 | ibot | kergoth: :) |
06:52.26 | sorphin | Soopaman: neener neener neener |
06:52.35 | Soopaman | ~Soopaman |
06:52.37 | ibot | you are, like, just some weird Canadian freak eh? |
06:52.40 | sorphin | hahaha |
06:52.41 | Soopaman | hahahaha |
06:52.53 | sorphin | ibot: botsnack |
06:52.53 | ibot | aw, gee, sorphin |
06:53.04 | sorphin | ibot: flip off Soopaman |
06:53.18 | sorphin | ok, someone's been tampering w/ ibot |
06:53.21 | sorphin | nuke's gone |
06:53.25 | sorphin | that don't work |
06:53.44 | sorphin | ~bitchslap Soopaman |
06:53.46 | ibot | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Soopaman |
06:53.56 | Soopaman | sorphin, why don't you setup your tivo's to play with your mythtv boxes? |
06:54.08 | Soopaman | same with you T0mW |
06:55.04 | sorphin | Soopaman: because the tivos aren't worth it, i don't feel like messing w/ more proprietary hw again |
06:55.25 | T0mW | I don't have a TiVo, seems like the guys that have one keep complaining about what they "can't" do with it, so I never got one. |
06:55.29 | Soopaman | sorphin, even though all the work is already done for you already? |
06:56.01 | sorphin | T0mW: correct |
06:56.07 | sorphin | Soopaman: uhh |
06:56.44 | Soopaman | unfotunately i do... |
06:56.45 | T0mW | Soopaman: there is no ethernet on a TiVo, you have to hack it to add one |
06:57.00 | Soopaman | T0mW, i use my usb2 adapters |
06:57.02 | sorphin | T0mW: and even then |
06:57.05 | sorphin | the ethernet is unstable |
06:57.06 | T0mW | puny drives |
06:57.06 | Soopaman | just curious |
06:57.16 | Soopaman | not trying to "convert" you |
06:57.17 | sorphin | Soopaman: try forcing "Best" quality video |
06:57.18 | T0mW | restricted program guide |
06:57.19 | sorphin | over USB ethernet |
06:57.29 | T0mW | heh |
06:57.33 | sorphin | Soopaman: i've crashed all tivos i've ever touched |
06:57.39 | sorphin | simply w/ best qual video |
06:57.41 | Soopaman | sorphin, it works for me |
06:57.41 | sorphin | over ether |
06:57.55 | Soopaman | did you build your own kernel/drivers? |
06:58.00 | sorphin | yes |
06:58.32 | sorphin | Soopaman: that's like asking if i use a prebuild DISTRIBUTION kernel on my boxes :P |
06:58.43 | Soopaman | hmm.. i ended up backporting most of the usb stuff |
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06:59.02 | Soopaman | sorphin, i really don't know much about you (aside from you being a jerk to me all the time :) ) |
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06:59.13 | sorphin | Soopaman: there's a reason for that |
06:59.35 | sorphin | ~caffeinate T0mW |
06:59.37 | sorphin | damn |
06:59.42 | Soopaman | oh well |
06:59.46 | Soopaman | talk to you guys tommorow |
07:00.02 | Soopaman | gotta get some sleep so i can watch NFL football all day |
07:00.06 | sorphin | Soopaman: i'm only a jerk to people that i don't care to be otherwise to :P |
07:00.15 | sorphin | cuz they want something |
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07:00.21 | Soopaman | sorphin, hahaha, you never gave me a chance! |
07:00.38 | sorphin | because i knew you wanted something :P |
07:00.39 | sorphin | hmm |
07:00.42 | Soopaman | but i still like you |
07:00.44 | sorphin | looks like chris is having probs |
07:00.51 | Soopaman | have i ever asked you for something? |
07:01.04 | sorphin | and sjhill, well, i'm just a jerk to him, cuz he's one right back |
07:01.16 | sorphin | Soopaman: you were gonna :P you wanted to pick my brain about tivo stuff |
07:01.31 | Soopaman | sorphin, i only asked because you brought itup |
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07:01.52 | sorphin | wtf |
07:01.52 | Soopaman | i figured you wouldn't disclose that to me if you didn't hate it so |
07:01.56 | sorphin | he's having probs |
07:02.03 | Soopaman | strange |
07:02.37 | Soopaman | sorphin, don't worry i won't ask you anymore for anything |
07:02.42 | sorphin | Soopaman: i used to be one of the biggest tivo advocates |
07:02.54 | sorphin | till they showed their true colors |
07:02.56 | Soopaman | fun talking to you all again tonight |
07:03.06 | Soopaman | sorphin, i've heard that from soo many |
07:03.17 | Soopaman | i guess tivo is still a novelty to me.. |
07:03.22 | sorphin | Soopaman: well, so many people would say it, if it wasn't true |
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07:03.39 | Soopaman | nite kergoth, sorphin, T0mW`gone |
07:03.39 | sorphin | Soopaman: they had such a chance, to get so much from hackers, ideas, etc |
07:03.43 | sorphin | kergoth: stay |
07:03.44 | sorphin | :P |
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07:04.17 | sorphin | kergoth: connectivity probs? |
07:04.19 | kergoth | heh |
07:04.25 | kergoth | fucking with my ctrlproxy config |
07:04.29 | kergoth | done for now |
07:04.36 | sorphin | wtf? |
07:04.47 | kergoth | 02:03 < kergoth> fucking with my ctrlproxy config |
07:04.49 | kergoth | 02:03 < kergoth> done for now |
07:04.52 | sorphin | no |
07:04.59 | sorphin | the wtf is wtf is ctrlproxy? |
07:05.01 | sorphin | :P |
07:05.07 | kergoth | its an irc proxy. |
07:05.12 | sorphin | ah |
07:05.14 | sorphin | never used one |
07:05.29 | kergoth | so i can have clients open at home and work, and they just connect to the one connection to the servers here |
07:05.45 | kergoth | when you connect to it, it'll hand you the backlog even |
07:05.50 | kergoth | pretty nice |
07:06.10 | kergoth | nod. but this way you dont get lag with your typing. |
07:06.15 | kergoth | only with the connections |
07:06.20 | kergoth | since the client is local |
07:06.20 | sorphin | kergoth: i don't get lag |
07:06.29 | sorphin | :) |
07:06.47 | kergoth | i'm happy for you. the rest of us here in the real world occasionally get lag |
07:06.53 | sorphin | heh |
07:08.28 | kergoth | heh |
07:09.38 | sorphin | anyways |
07:09.57 | kergoth | night |
07:10.13 | T0mW | night |
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10:04.53 | mbuf | anyone worked with arm kernels? |
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16:31.37 | sorphin | heh, "anyone worked with arm kernels?"... i find it amusing to ask that in this channel.. that's like asking if the sky is blue ;) |
16:32.38 | Soopaman | morning sorphin :) |
16:36.33 | sorphin | Soopaman: lo |
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