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| 00:34.13 | sorphin | jnork: re |
| 00:34.32 | jnork | re |
| 00:49.37 | Russ | thats snazzy, swapped out my cable modem and didn't get disconnected |
| 00:51.51 | jnork | heh |
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| 01:23.14 | file | Rhapsody is fun. |
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| 02:06.02 | chouimat | file: will try in vmware tomorrow |
| 02:22.27 | CosmicPenguin | if /proc/ksyms only reports __insmod_ symbols for a given module, its because the module didn't export any symbols, is that correct? |
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| 02:57.37 | CosmicPenguin | I know the framebuffer, but I don't know kung fu |
| 02:58.31 | fishhead | I got a et4000, a s3 virge, a rendition verite |
| 02:58.38 | fishhead | all I want is a 640x480x16mill fb |
| 02:58.40 | fishhead | for fbtv |
| 02:59.46 | fishhead | I had a ibm craptiva with onboard ati mach64 but it's canucked |
| 02:59.51 | fishhead | it hangs the kernel |
| 03:10.07 | CosmicPenguin | Are you sure the FB supports that mode |
| 03:10.08 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 03:10.23 | CosmicPenguin | Do you have a serial port - run the console on that and you will see the output (and possibly the oops) |
| 03:10.50 | fishhead | I have tried different cards and modes |
| 03:11.18 | CosmicPenguin | So its probably not the framebuffer |
| 03:11.24 | CosmicPenguin | Have you tried just VESA? |
| 03:11.27 | fishhead | or I don't know how to set the modes |
| 03:11.30 | fishhead | that's what I am am using |
| 03:11.38 | fishhead | vga=312 |
| 03:11.41 | fishhead | and a few others |
| 03:12.00 | CosmicPenguin | So you haven't tried the specific FBs for the devices? |
| 03:12.14 | fishhead | none of these devices seem to have specific |
| 03:12.29 | CosmicPenguin | And no oops if you don't do a framebuffer? |
| 03:12.29 | fishhead | et4000, et6000, rendition verite v2100, s3 virge |
| 03:12.41 | fishhead | actually with this other system |
| 03:12.42 | fishhead | no opps |
| 03:12.46 | fishhead | just garbled screen |
| 03:12.58 | fishhead | only thing I can think of is it's assuming a greater than 70hz refresh |
| 03:13.12 | CosmicPenguin | VESA is all standard though |
| 03:13.18 | fishhead | I know |
| 03:13.21 | CosmicPenguin | So unless your monitor sucks rocks, it should be good |
| 03:13.27 | fishhead | well it is a very old monitor |
| 03:13.29 | fishhead | 640x480 |
| 03:13.45 | fishhead | but that's all I am specifying |
| 03:15.22 | fishhead | the whole framebuffer thing is confusing as hell |
| 03:15.26 | fishhead | 10 different ways to do things |
| 03:26.33 | fishhead | hmm |
| 03:26.36 | fishhead | the virge has support |
| 03:32.16 | fishhead | looks like 2.6 might be the answer |
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| 03:58.48 | fishhead | hmm |
| 03:59.07 | msh | mm :) |
| 03:59.25 | msh | anyone about know of a wrt54g mailing list? someone referred me to it, but google doesn't know it :) |
| 04:06.18 | fishhead | okay this is canucked |
| 04:06.27 | fishhead | I have to load dos then linux to make this card work ? |
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| 04:50.11 | sorphin | fishhead: no using canuck as a swear word |
| 04:50.23 | fishhead | bah |
| 04:50.32 | fishhead | bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 04:50.32 | fishhead | hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 04:50.34 | fishhead | ok |
| 04:50.39 | fishhead | bitch |
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| 04:51.23 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.24 | sorphin | :P |
| 04:51.29 | sorphin | next time i won't put a space |
| 04:52.16 | fishhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.22 | fishhead | me either ;p |
| 04:52.24 | fishhead | :P |
| 04:52.38 | sorphin | fishhead: packet me and i'll talk to the k'liners :P |
| 04:52.45 | fishhead | dude I was kidding |
| 04:52.53 | fishhead | why would I kill one of my only lifelines to webpal |
| 04:53.06 | fishhead | if i never get the nervers to solder on a port |
| 04:53.43 | fishhead | for now it just sits |
| 04:53.50 | fishhead | I should just mail out the flash to one of you guys in the meantime |
| 04:53.57 | fishhead | so I could at least see linux boot |
| 04:54.07 | fishhead | I defintely want to do some modding |
| 04:54.18 | fishhead | I want to make it run off a pc switching power supply for better efficiency |
| 04:54.21 | fishhead | eventually |
| 04:54.51 | sorphin | fishhead: that's one thing i actually agree w/ you on |
| 04:54.59 | fishhead | what ? |
| 04:57.02 | sorphin | fishhead: the webpal+psu bit |
| 04:58.22 | fishhead | oh |
| 04:58.30 | fishhead | yeah linear regs suck ass |
| 04:58.42 | fishhead | except for analog stuff or like dropping from say 3.3 to 3.2 |
| 04:58.57 | sorphin | fishhead: not just that, but what's in the webpal... isn't even proper |
| 04:59.26 | fishhead | yeah the design is pretty cheezy |
| 04:59.29 | fishhead | in that respect |
| 04:59.38 | fishhead | fortunitely technology has improved since the webpal |
| 04:59.51 | fishhead | many low cost very integrated into 1 chip switchers now |
| 04:59.57 | fishhead | making linear less and less used |
| 05:00.28 | fishhead | question |
| 05:00.38 | fishhead | if I put a +5 tap wire on the output of the reg |
| 05:00.42 | fishhead | and I attach it to another psu |
| 05:00.51 | fishhead | do I have to worry about backfeeding into the onboard reg and frying it |
| 05:01.03 | sorphin | possibly :P |
| 05:01.10 | fishhead | I been learning some electronics but I am not 100% sure on this one |
| 05:01.15 | sorphin | always use a nice diode |
| 05:01.23 | sorphin | on the output of the reg |
| 05:01.30 | sorphin | then it won't backfeed |
| 05:01.36 | fishhead | course that means I have to chop it up |
| 05:01.47 | fishhead | that also means I have to worry about voltage drop on the diode |
| 05:01.54 | sorphin | uhh |
| 05:01.57 | sorphin | a whole .7V :P |
| 05:01.59 | sorphin | oooooh |
| 05:02.03 | fishhead | dude |
| 05:02.13 | fishhead | dropping from 5 to 4.3 |
| 05:02.23 | fishhead | could mean some electronics won't init |
| 05:02.26 | sorphin | that bridge |
| 05:02.28 | sorphin | drops :P |
| 05:02.35 | fishhead | ? |
| 05:03.23 | sorphin | nevermind |
| 05:03.24 | sorphin | dude |
| 05:03.35 | sorphin | if you're gonna hook a diff PSU to the OUTPUT of the rectifier |
| 05:03.43 | sorphin | you don't have to worry about voltage drop |
| 05:03.52 | sorphin | cuz you're reverse biasing the diode |
| 05:04.16 | sorphin | the diode hooks to the reg, and faces the point where you're hooking up the PSU |
| 05:04.22 | sorphin | to protect the reg |
| 05:05.09 | fishhead | don't I do this |
| 05:05.19 | fishhead | 5 volt reg output ---> mb |
| 05:05.25 | fishhead | 5 volt reg output ---> diode ---> mb |
| 05:05.41 | fishhead | and between diode and mb I could put in a tap when I used a external psu |
| 05:05.53 | sorphin | you said: |
| 05:05.56 | sorphin | fishhead> if I put a +5 tap wire on the output of the reg |
| 05:05.56 | sorphin | <fishhead> and I attach it to another psu |
| 05:05.56 | sorphin | <fishhead> do I have to worry about backfeeding into the onboard reg and |
| 05:05.56 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.02 | sorphin | so |
| 05:06.05 | sorphin | you put the diode |
| 05:06.09 | sorphin | facing the MB |
| 05:06.13 | sorphin | between the regulator |
| 05:06.18 | sorphin | and the psu hookin |
| 05:06.42 | fishhead | I must be tired cause it's not registering |
| 05:06.45 | sorphin | are you gonna NOT have anything hooked up the the webpal's psu ? |
| 05:07.54 | sorphin | are you double powering the thing, or JUSt using an external? |
| 05:08.41 | fishhead | just using external |
| 05:08.44 | fishhead | no reason to double power |
| 05:08.46 | fishhead | oh I see |
| 05:08.57 | fishhead | well I would like to be able to switch between them initially |
| 05:09.05 | fishhead | but mabye that's too much hassle |
| 05:14.58 | fishhead | yeah linear regs make me freak |
| 05:15.01 | fishhead | but then again I have ocd |
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| 08:12.32 | Russ | heh, someone got a hold of my address back when I lived at the dorm and spammed me asking me if I wanted to refinance my home at [dorm address] |
| 08:12.48 | Russ | my freshman dorm even |
| 08:36.52 | fishhead | CHAMPAIGN, Ill.--Researchers at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have developed what they claim is a major technology breakthrough: the light-emitting transistor. |
| 08:52.58 | sorphin | heh |
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| 12:58.27 | sorphin | mallum: morning/afternoon old chap |
| 13:01.32 | mallum | sorphin: good morning gentleman |
| 13:01.45 | mallum | sorphin: you are smoking crack 24 was not on last night btw |
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| 14:31.04 | sorphin | mallum: was locally :P |
| 14:31.14 | sorphin | mallum: like i know what sodding channel you meant :P |
| 14:31.22 | sorphin | ~bitchslap sjhill |
| 14:31.27 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill |
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| 15:07.01 | sorphin | GPSFan: mornin |
| 15:07.47 | sjhill | lo' mighty morphin sorphin |
| 15:07.53 | GPSFan | sorphin: good morning, how's it goin'? |
| 15:08.16 | CosmicPenguin | hey, hey kids! |
| 15:08.43 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: hi dad |
| 15:10.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning daddy pixil |
| 15:10.13 | sorphin | GPSFan: coldly, you? |
| 15:10.58 | sorphin | GPSFan: been noticing all the little places my gps signal disappears |
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| 15:11.33 | sjhill | sorphin: do those places seem reasonable or are you suspicious of the EM interference |
| 15:12.02 | sorphin | sjhill: a bridge.., the garage... |
| 15:12.06 | sjhill | ah |
| 15:12.17 | sorphin | the garage, i can kinda understand |
| 15:12.25 | sjhill | bridge may have to much multipath |
| 15:12.30 | sorphin | true |
| 15:13.11 | sjhill | however, it might be better if you had an active antenna instead of a passive one |
| 15:13.16 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, i didn't know you knew that kinda stuff too ;) thought you were just a mips boy, learn somethin new everyday |
| 15:13.41 | sjhill | my master's thesis was a GPS-based automatic landing system for aircraft...i know a little |
| 15:13.41 | sorphin | sjhill: i'll just have to live w/ it.. not gonna tamper w/ the shark fin |
| 15:14.00 | sorphin | scary |
| 15:14.04 | sjhill | heh |
| 15:14.12 | CosmicPenguin | The question is - what are you doing hanging around with us bums? |
| 15:14.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: just cuz he's smart doesn't mean he has class ;) |
| 15:14.31 | sjhill | i left GPS because i got bored |
| 15:14.51 | sjhill | the next logic step for me was more research and a PhD |
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| 15:15.35 | sorphin | sjhill: the gps in the car |
| 15:15.52 | sorphin | sjhill: has some definate accuracy issues sometimes.. |
| 15:16.09 | sorphin | i.e. slightly lagging behind where i really am on the map (even at 400ft) |
| 15:16.19 | sorphin | made me miss a turn a few times |
| 15:16.21 | sjhill | how many satellites did you have at that time |
| 15:16.40 | sorphin | or, i get off the highway, and i'm clearly on this ramp way over here ------> |
| 15:16.56 | sorphin | but it shows me on one of the others to the left of that, getting on another highway |
| 15:17.03 | sorphin | sjhill: i dunno, but it was wide open out |
| 15:17.18 | sorphin | the damn unit has a gyro |
| 15:17.21 | sjhill | maybe it was your mapping system |
| 15:17.22 | sjhill | ah |
| 15:17.23 | sorphin | incase it loses sats |
| 15:17.40 | sorphin | maybe i should slap around navtech |
| 15:17.52 | sjhill | i started looking at the trig functions for gyros...they're terrifying equations |
| 15:18.01 | sorphin | around me |
| 15:18.08 | sorphin | the maps are innacurate there days anyways |
| 15:18.10 | sorphin | even since May |
| 15:18.22 | sorphin | so much construction/rerouting |
| 15:18.28 | sorphin | because of the airport expansion |
| 15:18.52 | sorphin | sjhill: yeah |
| 15:19.23 | sorphin | :sj i prefered calc to trig |
| 15:19.46 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:20.07 | sjhill | lo' chouimat |
| 15:20.31 | sorphin | chouimat: morning |
| 15:22.41 | GPSFan | yeah, there are lots of places where it can vanish, that are perfectly understandable. there are other places that multipath can really screw things up with a non-survey grade antenna, ie urban canyons, forrests, tunnels, :) |
| 15:23.08 | chouimat | hi GPSFan sjhill sorphin |
| 15:23.16 | sorphin | GPSFan: sjhill: is SA on atm ? |
| 15:23.25 | chouimat | hmmm nothing like some arch enemy to help wake up in th emornign |
| 15:23.28 | GPSFan | chouimat: howdy, sorphin: no |
| 15:23.38 | sjhill | sorphin: i don't know...i thought they had turned it off, but since we are in war time, it could be on |
| 15:23.53 | chouimat | GPSFan: i think I have the flu ... |
| 15:24.22 | sorphin | what does SA put you out to accuracy wise? i forgot |
| 15:24.25 | GPSFan | chouimat: that sucks, I just got over a cold. |
| 15:24.43 | sjhill | hmmm |
| 15:24.47 | sjhill | nope, i don't like that |
| 15:24.52 | chouimat | GPSFan: my body ache from everywere |
| 15:25.15 | sjhill | i hate serial drivers |
| 15:25.39 | sjhill | gaaaaahh! |
| 15:26.13 | GPSFan | sorphin: lots of good info here: http://www.schriever.af.mil/GpsSupportCenter/index.htm SA would degrade the accuracy up to about 100m |
| 15:26.25 | sjhill | oh most definitely |
| 15:26.31 | sjhill | it's the worst error source |
| 15:26.50 | sjhill | well, sometimes the ionosphere messes things up a bit |
| 15:27.02 | sorphin | so 30ft |
| 15:27.15 | sorphin | makes me wonder then |
| 15:27.18 | sjhill | that's a 100m 3d sphere btw |
| 15:27.34 | sorphin | cuz that's bout how much i missed that turn :P |
| 15:27.53 | sorphin | that 'circle' that's supposed to be me on the map |
| 15:28.32 | sorphin | by hte time the back of my car hits the trailing edge of the street to the left, the arrow in the middle of the circle is hitting the street on the map |
| 15:29.05 | GPSFan | sjhill: and the verticle accuracy isn't as good as the horiz anyway, so it was actually worse degradation in altitude, so more of an egg shape. ;>) |
| 15:30.27 | sjhill | *nod* |
| 15:30.57 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:31.07 | sorphin | On 01 January 2004, 2118Z, SVN23/PRN23 went off of the air due to an anomalous condition on the satellite. An assessment of global, 3-D Dilution of Precision can be seen |
| 15:31.08 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.09 | GPSFan | sorphin: SA has been officially off for wuite a while now, there are areas of the US that undergo testing of "special modes" to assess the effectiveness of regional degration techniques, but those are in NM, AZ and TX. |
| 15:31.28 | sorphin | i can hope into svc mode and find exactly how many sats i'm talking to |
| 15:31.40 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:31.47 | sorphin | s/hope/hop/ |
| 15:32.16 | chouimat | http://www.askmen.com/jokes/index.html |
| 15:32.28 | sorphin | chouimat: some of us are at work |
| 15:32.30 | sorphin | :P |
| 15:32.41 | chouimat | sorphin: very work free |
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| 15:33.35 | chouimat | hmmmm /me need a coffee |
| 15:35.58 | sjhill | hmm, according to this email i have an embarassing problem |
| 15:36.41 | Russ | incontinince? |
| 15:36.50 | sjhill | no, small penis |
| 15:37.00 | Russ | bummer of a way to find out |
| 15:37.49 | CosmicPenguin | I also have a wieght problem, I can't quit smoking, and strangely enough, this email says I'm gay |
| 15:38.05 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: wow, you are really fscked up |
| 15:38.07 | chouimat | huh? |
| 15:38.47 | CosmicPenguin | And I would have never known if it wasn't for spam |
| 15:40.15 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: sound fun to read ... better than helping a completely clueless newbie how to use a cross-compiler for arm |
| 15:40.32 | sjhill | oh good, random segfaults on my new board |
| 15:40.45 | sjhill | note to all, MIPS32 based cores suck |
| 15:40.49 | CosmicPenguin | And to the docile sounds of a chainsaw, my property value goes down a few more thousand |
| 15:40.50 | sjhill | oh, did i mention MIPS32 cores suck? |
| 15:40.53 | CosmicPenguin | and right before I'm going to sell |
| 15:41.00 | CosmicPenguin | Thanks a whole ton, mother nature! |
| 15:41.15 | sjhill | lol |
| 15:42.16 | chouimat | hmmm drink instant coffee or get my balls frozen to buy fresh one ... |
| 15:42.49 | CosmicPenguin | do you even have to ask? |
| 15:43.16 | chouimat | ooops wrong channel |
| 15:43.46 | sjhill | i don't know, cold balls will probably keep you awake more than coffee |
| 15:44.08 | chouimat | sjhill: hehe |
| 15:45.54 | CosmicPenguin | oopses, oopses, we love oopses |
| 15:46.08 | chouimat | woooooohooooooooo I completely crashed this installation .... |
| 15:49.36 | chouimat | arrrggggg will need to reinstall this box |
| 15:52.40 | GPSFan | sorphin: Current sat status: ftp://tycho.usno.navy.mil/pub/gps/gpstd.txt more usefull info: http://users.erols.com/dlwilson/gps.html |
| 15:55.30 | CosmicPenguin | This oops would be must less annoying if it didn't leave the usage count on the module set so I have to reboot |
| 15:59.38 | chouimat | hmmmm a viagra-alternative spam |
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| 16:02.57 | CosmicPenguin | julia: good morning |
| 16:03.07 | kergoth | morning people |
| 16:04.01 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 16:06.00 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: wassup |
| 16:06.24 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you hacked on tslib pretty extensively, didn't you |
| 16:06.26 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 16:19.22 | kergoth | yeah |
| 16:19.43 | mallum | arg Im addicted to 'call of duty' |
| 16:20.11 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I've got a design problem, maybe you can help - the h5500 uses the h3600 interface for the touchscreen, but instead of reporting a pressure value |
| 16:20.13 | sorphin | mallum: funny, i thought being a brit, you were addicted to 'call of the boobie' :P |
| 16:20.22 | CosmicPenguin | it just reports a 1 if the pen is down, or 0 if the pen is up |
| 16:20.27 | mallum | sorphin: well its killing nazi's |
| 16:20.32 | CosmicPenguin | which breaks the threshold check |
| 16:20.46 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: well, what i did was.. |
| 16:20.58 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: I removed pressure threshold handling from all modules completely |
| 16:21.02 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: and from qte |
| 16:21.12 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I see... |
| 16:21.21 | CosmicPenguin | I didn't even consider that option |
| 16:21.23 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: then, i created a tslib module whose sole purpose was to set pressure values below a given threshold to 0 |
| 16:21.33 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: and altered the higher modules to expect '0' as release |
| 16:21.36 | kergoth | so it was consolodated |
| 16:21.47 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: where does this code live? We should pull it into OZ |
| 16:21.48 | kergoth | then you just set 'thres threshold=1' in ts.conf |
| 16:21.50 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 16:21.52 | kergoth | *before* the other modules |
| 16:22.05 | kergoth | i emailed that info to douglas, he liked that way of handling it |
| 16:22.11 | kergoth | (the current maintainer) |
| 16:22.36 | CosmicPenguin | But he hasn't released it yet I guess |
| 16:22.48 | CosmicPenguin | Or maybe he has, I haven't checked the tarballs |
| 16:22.58 | kergoth | most of my patchset isnt upstream yet |
| 16:23.09 | kergoth | the ball's in my court, i needed to clean up and pass them along to douglas |
| 16:24.21 | kergoth | hold on, let me see if my patchset in OE is current |
| 16:25.07 | kergoth | shit, not current. CosmicPenguin: i'll just email you the applicable patches for now |
| 16:25.30 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: excellent - I'll add that to OZ instead of a hackified attempt that won't get accepted anyway |
| 16:25.53 | kergoth | cool |
| 16:28.46 | chouimat | YAY! this network monitoring and update script ... crashed my entire network ... I will have a nice day |
| 16:29.14 | kergoth | hah |
| 16:29.57 | chouimat | kergoth: I will switch to xandros I think ... debian sarge based |
| 17:01.30 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: does that mean my survey app won't show up in the next few days? |
| 17:01.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: survey says..... <buzzer> 'X' </buzzer> |
| 17:10.49 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, from the stupid bugs file - audio driver has two devices, mixer and dsp (no surprise there) |
| 17:11.14 | CosmicPenguin | Both devices operate on an i2c bus, so the mixer's private_data is set to the i2c device, which gets called on the ioctl() call |
| 17:11.40 | CosmicPenguin | However, because of OSS rules, the mixer ioctls() need to be obeyed by the dsp device as well, so they just made a call to the mixer ioctl() routine |
| 17:11.55 | CosmicPenguin | despite the fact that the dsp device had a completely different private_data value |
| 17:12.02 | CosmicPenguin | oops() for all! |
| 17:12.28 | kergoth | *cough*alsa*cough* |
| 17:12.47 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you don't even want to see what the alsa does.... :) |
| 17:13.00 | CosmicPenguin | *cough* BOOM *cough* |
| 17:13.29 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I will work double shift ... I just need to get a working box ... |
| 17:13.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:13.54 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: don't forget, there is money in this for you |
| 17:13.57 | CosmicPenguin | You're not doing this for free |
| 17:14.42 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: rebuilding the box is free for you ... |
| 17:14.59 | CosmicPenguin | fedex the box to me, I'll rebuild it... :) |
| 17:15.23 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: hehe ... anyway I need to reinstall it ... I will be back later |
| 17:16.43 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: let me know when you get the stuff e-mailed, I'm near the end of my work here and I'm almost ready to submit the changeset |
| 17:18.46 | kergoth | oh, right.. doing too much shit at once, spaced it |
| 17:18.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: thats ok |
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| 17:41.18 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: email addy? |
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| 17:47.24 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: np |
| 17:47.25 | kergoth | er |
| 17:47.26 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: nm |
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| 17:51.14 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: sent. its really simple. |
| 17:51.24 | kergoth | which is of course, the way i like it |
| 17:51.25 | kergoth | heh |
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| 17:52.38 | kergoth | wb chouimat |
| 17:54.25 | chouimat | hmmm that was fast ... now need to configure it |
| 18:22.53 | chouimat | 3 done one to go |
| 18:31.33 | chouimat | bbl |
| 18:35.57 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: thanks for the stuff |
| 18:36.10 | kergoth | np |
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| 18:38.26 | CosmicPenguin | Looking good - thats a much cleaner way to do it then before |
| 18:38.53 | kergoth | yeah, i never did understand why the same shit was duplicated all over the place |
| 18:38.56 | kergoth | just pointless |
| 18:39.18 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm.... you don't seem to be addressing the same code where my problem was |
| 18:39.25 | CosmicPenguin | Perhaps the OZ version is hella old? |
| 18:39.51 | CosmicPenguin | 08-05-2003 |
| 18:41.19 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: exactly where are you seeing it explode? |
| 18:41.36 | CosmicPenguin | ts_read_raw.c |
| 18:41.54 | CosmicPenguin | bear with me, I'm just starting to learn the code |
| 18:42.40 | kergoth | i dont see how it would break there |
| 18:42.58 | kergoth | it just reads the event from the kernel, stuffs the pressure value into the tslib coordinate structure, and moves on |
| 18:46.51 | CosmicPenguin | In the OZ code, ts_read_raw.c:318 is if (samp->pressure < pthres) { |
| 18:47.13 | CosmicPenguin | Has that code been removed in later stuff? |
| 18:50.06 | CosmicPenguin | indeed it has |
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| 19:10.18 | sorphin | prpplague: afternoon hillbilly |
| 19:21.14 | prpplague | pattieja: your bro got anything on the way to edit existing .ifo files? |
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| 19:48.04 | CosmicPenguin | This relocation stuff is pretty cool |
| 19:48.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: relocation isn't always fun |
| 19:49.10 | CosmicPenguin | true that |
| 19:49.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i did it 5 times in 4 years when i was in the army |
| 19:49.42 | CosmicPenguin | I just had two different brokers call me |
| 19:49.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.linuxmotors.com/vobview |
| 19:50.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: moving brokers or job brokers? |
| 19:50.08 | CosmicPenguin | They are both going to do marketing plans and anyalysis, and then I get to pick the best one |
| 19:50.11 | CosmicPenguin | real estate |
| 19:50.16 | prpplague | oh |
| 19:50.22 | CosmicPenguin | And its all on AMDs tab |
| 19:50.27 | prpplague | nice |
| 19:50.32 | prpplague | they must really want you |
| 19:50.37 | CosmicPenguin | They even pay the commission.. :) |
| 19:50.43 | prpplague | wow |
| 19:51.56 | sorphin | umm |
| 19:52.18 | CosmicPenguin | plus, they throw in a free 1 year home owners warrenty for the buyer of my place |
| 19:52.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jeeze |
| 19:52.32 | sorphin | ahh, it's for selling your place |
| 19:52.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: who did you have to blow for that? |
| 19:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | I don't kiss and tell |
| 19:53.00 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 19:53.00 | prpplague | lol |
| 19:53.12 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: or fluff and tell |
| 19:53.29 | CosmicPenguin | Uhh... yeah |
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| 20:19.29 | chouimat | reinstallation done on everybox ... |
| 20:21.34 | sjhill | who considers themself somewhat of a 'make' guru? |
| 20:22.23 | chouimat|lunch | sjhill: I have the o'reilly book somewhere |
| 20:22.35 | sjhill | so do i |
| 20:22.41 | sjhill | i'm not finding what i need though |
| 20:23.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whatcha think? a fltk app for ripping dvd's, authoring dvd's and vcd's |
| 20:24.49 | Russ | don't we already have dvdrip? |
| 20:26.08 | prpplague | Russ: yea but it currently doesn |
| 20:26.24 | prpplague | Russ: doesn't support dvd-2-dvd or converting dvd-9's to dvd-5's |
| 20:26.42 | prpplague | Russ: or menu authoring |
| 20:26.50 | chouimat|lunch | dvd-9? dvd-5? |
| 20:26.59 | kergoth | sjhill: i've gotten pretty good with gmake. have enountered and worked around most of its limitations and flaws |
| 20:27.02 | kergoth | sjhill: what you need? |
| 20:27.23 | sjhill | kergoth: i'll go private channel on this so i don't pollute this one |
| 20:27.34 | Russ | ah |
| 20:27.37 | Russ | prpplague: do it then |
| 20:27.54 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: dvd-9 is a double layer (i.e. 8gb ) and dvd-5 is single layer (i.e. 4gb) |
| 20:28.40 | prpplague | mpaa would probably come after me |
| 20:29.21 | kergoth | did you guys see greg k-h's email with the udev script that names the cdrom device Artist_Title from cddb when its an audio cd, then symlinks 'cdrom' to it? |
| 20:29.25 | kergoth | i found it amusing |
| 20:29.37 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: ok |
| 20:29.55 | prpplague | kergoth: no, but that would be amusing |
| 20:30.06 | chouimat|lunch | kergoth: like winblows |
| 20:33.51 | chouimat|lunch | hmmm I should eat something else than doritos |
| 20:34.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you used fltk builds under rhat9? |
| 20:35.16 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 20:35.27 | CosmicPenguin | I stopped at 7.3 |
| 20:35.30 | CosmicPenguin | I'm a gentoo man now |
| 20:35.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh smart choice, i'm trying to make the transition to debian |
| 20:36.05 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: I did this afternoon |
| 20:36.27 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: went to debian or use fltk on rhat9? |
| 20:36.58 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: suse 9.0 -> xandros 2.0 (debian sarge) |
| 20:37.21 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:37.59 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: configuration went smootly on all the updated boxes |
| 20:50.02 | Russ | gotta go with sid |
| 20:50.42 | chouimat|lunch | Russ: which debian is that I can't remember |
| 20:55.34 | file | chouimat|work: you're... a Xandros user? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat! |
| 20:59.38 | Russ | chouimat|work: unstable |
| 21:03.43 | CosmicPenguin | seesh |
| 21:03.51 | CosmicPenguin | how hard is it to make an image and burn it to a CF? |
| 21:04.18 | CosmicPenguin | The answer is apparently, prettty frickin' hard |
| 21:04.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:04.27 | kergoth | problems? |
| 21:07.19 | CosmicPenguin | I dunno - this client has a cockamany way of bulding this image |
| 21:07.39 | CosmicPenguin | my makefile has a cool 'make disk' target that builds the image, puts it on CF and installs the bootloader |
| 21:08.14 | CosmicPenguin | but the guy is insisting on building the image on one computer, then transfering it to another device, and then running 'make disk' |
| 21:08.27 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 21:08.29 | CosmicPenguin | And somewhere along the line, he's losing the new changes, so he keeps burning the old image |
| 21:08.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not scott is it? lol |
| 21:09.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I turned chouimat|work loose on scott... :) |
| 21:09.35 | prpplague | HA |
| 21:10.15 | CosmicPenguin | he's porting the survey app to Qtopia so I don't have to support building a handhelds image for him |
| 21:10.31 | CosmicPenguin | I already told him I'm out of the business and I don't want to hear from him again |
| 21:20.32 | chouimat|work | ok now I know what I lost with the system crash ... my documentation directory ... my resume ... |
| 21:21.34 | chouimat|work | file: how is the busybox port? |
| 21:24.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lovely |
| 21:25.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: he is a few clues short of pretty much anything (scott that is) |
| 21:25.55 | file | chouimat|work: I lack time, I've got two weeks till exams and teachers trying to cram 4 weeks worth of material into 2 weeks, makes for lots of homework+study |
| 21:28.27 | chouimat|work | file: ouch |
| 21:28.38 | chouimat|work | prpplague: CosmicPenguin ? |
| 21:30.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: chouimat|work ? |
| 21:30.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: sorphin? |
| 21:32.30 | prpplague | ibot: buildroot |
| 21:32.32 | | from memory, buildroot is a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ or a heavily modified version used by the OpenZaurus project, or see oz buildroot |
| 21:33.11 | kergoth | what the.. i cant run gmake 3.79.1 under my fakeroot |
| 21:33.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:39.27 | chouimat|work | ls |
| 21:45.24 | prpplague | file: busybox port? |
| 21:45.44 | chouimat|work | prpplague: to freebsd |
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| 22:44.45 | Russ | I don't think anyone on bash.org "gets" this one '[+MadManDaz] I brought a david blane toy 10 days ago. I Still cant get the fucker out the box.' |
| 22:45.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:45.05 | CosmicPenguin | lol |
| 22:45.24 | Russ | http://www.david-blaine.river-thames.com/stunt/david_blaine/ |
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| 23:43.56 | Russ | whoa, thats cool, a job posting on honeywell for 7e7 design work |