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05:44.02 | pigeon | heh |
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06:05.14 | fishhead | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2877184543&category=553 |
06:05.30 | fishhead | remeber, THIS IS *NOT* A DILDO! |
09:05.31 | Russ | That is the most phallic not a dildo object I've ever seen |
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11:26.24 | chouimat | morning |
11:38.14 | chouimat | Before marriage, a man yearns for the woman he loves. After marriage, the "y" becomes silent. |
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14:35.56 | sorphin | for i in channel |
14:35.58 | sorphin | do |
14:36.00 | sorphin | wave |
14:36.02 | sorphin | done |
14:43.13 | mallum | sorphin: hi |
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14:59.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I think thats the first code I've ever seen you write |
15:00.36 | sorphin | mallum: lo old git |
15:00.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i've written plenty of code, i just don't show it here :P |
15:01.25 | sorphin | mallum: cool, does it serve you tea yet? |
15:03.59 | mallum | sorphin: no its having debian put on it atm |
15:04.14 | sorphin | mallum: bah, then what bloody good is it? ;) |
15:05.28 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the ultimate measurement of high technology in England |
15:05.35 | CosmicPenguin | You have to keep improving it until it serves tea |
15:06.28 | jnork | MMmmmm. Tea. |
15:06.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: quite |
15:11.59 | jnork | I never got around to it, but I was thinking of making a little timer gadget that would lift the teabag -- or if you're in England, sachet :) -- or in my case, I use a tea ball -- and hold it over the cup until I got 'round to it, rather than merely beeping. |
15:12.11 | jnork | Obviously a need for Embedded Linux for that one. |
15:13.13 | sorphin | heh |
15:14.23 | CosmicPenguin | Cron is your friend |
15:18.55 | mallum | Cron is not my friend |
15:19.04 | mallum | she's my bitch |
15:19.24 | sorphin | mallum: drink your tea and behave, git |
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15:25.35 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - this kernel build I'm doing is really dragging down my system |
15:27.15 | CosmicPenguin | Ah-ha! |
15:27.20 | CosmicPenguin | It wasn't my kernel build at all |
15:28.26 | jnork | It was your tea? |
15:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | It was a runaway java_vm process |
15:32.37 | CosmicPenguin | I installed java so I could play poker with my friends. How vain, how vain |
15:40.45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: s/vain/sad/ |
15:44.52 | CosmicPenguin | indeed |
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16:10.17 | sorphin | pattieja: mornin |
16:17.10 | pattieja | sorphin, morning |
16:21.14 | jnork | Oooh, President Bush is going to solve all our spam problems. |
16:21.22 | jnork | He's signing the YOU-CAN-SPAM act into law. |
16:22.01 | jnork | I'm just so... excited about this law! It's going to control spam once and for all by allowing ANYBODY IN THE WORLD TO SPAM YOU LEGALLY! |
16:23.21 | sorphin | jnork: gag |
16:23.40 | sorphin | pattieja: you on an RT? |
16:24.28 | pattieja | sorphin, what's RT? |
16:26.42 | jnork | Not that I am bitter. |
16:33.10 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - like it makes a bit of difference |
16:38.11 | file | "So it's swiss... it keeps perfect time but it occasionally catches fire" |
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16:49.28 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: problems? |
16:49.32 | kergoth | prpplague: morning dave |
16:49.38 | prpplague | kergoth: howdy |
16:50.27 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: get this crazy vibe. /user/toolchains/uclibc-i386//bin/i386-uclibc-g++ fails hard building heavy STL code |
16:50.41 | kergoth | doh |
16:50.47 | CosmicPenguin | But if I omit the redundant slash between i386 and bin, it works fine |
16:51.00 | kergoth | hah |
16:52.29 | CosmicPenguin | I was getting pissed because it would work if I did it at the command line, but the buildroot failed |
16:53.49 | prpplague | anyone using bb-1.0? |
16:54.26 | kergoth | pre4 released? god, not having net at home is really leaving me outta the loop |
16:54.59 | prpplague | yea |
16:55.01 | sorphin | kergoth: well, it's either net access or food ;) |
16:55.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: haven't touched it with a 10 foot pole |
16:57.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why? |
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16:57.59 | kergoth | prpplague: i'm using pre3 here, then switched to cvs for a bit, now ill test pre4 |
16:58.05 | kergoth | hey sjhill |
16:58.32 | prpplague | kergoth: there are a number of new "ip" commands |
16:58.33 | sjhill | hi kergoth |
16:58.38 | sjhill | lo' prpplague |
16:58.41 | prpplague | kergoth: have you used any of them |
16:58.49 | kergoth | prpplague: not yet.. its on my todo |
16:58.52 | prpplague | sjhill: howdy mr.timesys |
16:58.57 | sjhill | sorphin: hey fish breath |
16:59.12 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, the explaination of some of the commands are a little vague |
16:59.34 | kergoth | prpplague: go rtfm on iputils. |
16:59.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I was building pre2 for a client, it broke horribly, I got scared, never got a chance to look at it |
17:00.17 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh, those are part of the iputils group? |
17:01.21 | kergoth | prpplague: iirc.., |
17:02.58 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks, i'll go from there |
17:03.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh |
17:04.21 | prpplague | kergoth: looks like its part of iproute group |
17:04.28 | kergoth | ah |
17:04.47 | file | tee he he busybox-freebsd has a df applet now :) |
17:06.58 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, think i'd rather use vtun that the bb applets |
17:09.46 | prpplague | kergoth: tried the bb udchpc in 1.0 ? |
17:10.03 | kergoth | prpplague: yep, havent had any problems withi t |
17:11.55 | prpplague | kergoth: great |
17:13.45 | CosmicPenguin | Way obscure question - nobody knows off hand the default font that TK wants to use, do they? |
17:21.43 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks for the info |
17:21.44 | prpplague | later |
17:23.16 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: iso8859-1 |
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17:50.33 | kergoth | crap |
17:50.40 | kergoth | just hit what seems to be a busybox bug |
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18:09.33 | sorphin | TomW: afternoon |
18:10.11 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, day goes fast, doesn't it? |
18:10.18 | TomW | sorphin: how you doing? |
18:11.13 | sorphin | TomW: tired mostly, cleaning up bugs, pondering how to solve this car voltage noise prob |
18:11.21 | sorphin | TomW: and still sinus infected it seems |
18:11.23 | sorphin | TomW: you? |
18:11.57 | TomW | messing around building up a new workstation: ASUS A7N8X mo'board |
18:12.16 | sorphin | cool |
18:12.51 | sorphin | TomW: asus make the best boards generally for O/C'ing |
18:13.00 | TomW | nice board: twin serial ATA w/RAID 0 & 1, 2 Firewire, 4 USB 1.0, 2 USB 2.0, 2 10/100 LAN, etc |
18:14.05 | TomW | killer board, I only bought is 'cause it used the AMD ATHLON + it didn't have onboard video. I stumbled onto a good one for a change! |
18:14.21 | sorphin | nod |
18:15.39 | TomW | sorphin: After I stuck a 160Gig ATA133 drive onto it and a RADEON 9000 AGP video card, I started to think of using it as a workstation. I had planned to use it as a "trash" box, just to hack around with.. but it is too nice to ignore for everyday use. |
18:17.04 | sorphin | nod |
18:17.09 | TomW | sorphin: I tried MythTV + an AIMSLAB Video Xtreme tuner card in it, but all I got was static. when xawtv does it's channel scan it cannot find any valid TV channels. I guess the card is fscked. |
18:17.21 | sorphin | nod |
18:17.33 | sorphin | TomW: my poor WinTV-pci card.. |
18:17.41 | TomW | ? |
18:17.44 | sorphin | i forced it to capture at 720x480 |
18:17.47 | sorphin | it will |
18:17.54 | TomW | how does it look? |
18:18.04 | sorphin | but eventually i drop ~50% of frames over all |
18:18.16 | TomW | k, is it cpu speed or something? |
18:18.37 | sorphin | not sure if it's the HD or the card can't keep up (since it's not really SUPPOSED to capture that high of res) |
18:18.48 | sorphin | nope, the CPU is a 2.6ghz P4 Ht |
18:19.08 | TomW | do you need to capture at that rate? can you capture at a lower frame size and still render it at full screen so it looks like a tv screen? |
18:19.32 | sorphin | TomW: well... this is going to be stuff eventually put to dvd |
18:19.40 | TomW | non |
18:19.42 | TomW | nod |
18:20.14 | TomW | I guess that I will get a cheap-o WinTV-Go card to try stuff out with, at least that should work with bttv. |
18:20.26 | sorphin | TomW: it will |
18:21.05 | sorphin | TomW: this one is older, it was supposed to work w/ Wincast or intelcast or whatever that shit was |
18:21.11 | sorphin | uses a BT878 |
18:21.25 | TomW | once I pull all my stuff off the P-III workstation and xfer it onver to the new machine, I will use the P-III 1GHz box for the MythTV. |
18:21.45 | sorphin | TomW: glanced at myth the other day |
18:22.11 | sorphin | my S2 tivo records exactly how i need |
18:22.25 | sorphin | but moving the crap from it is a bit annoying |
18:22.41 | TomW | The darned audio on the ASUS mo'board is NVIDIA and their audio driver only does one stereo channel, but not at full duplex! the board has two stereo channels on it though. |
18:23.07 | sorphin | but dumping it somehwere is a pain |
18:23.22 | sorphin | i always crash/overload the networking on it (usb networking) |
18:23.43 | sorphin | and if i put a drive in to dump to, need a damn mac to read it (or hacked kernel) |
18:23.45 | sorphin | :P |
18:23.53 | TomW | it seems that the tivo people have a lot of limitations on using the tivo, that is why I am looking at MythTV. |
18:24.33 | sorphin | and i STILL need a sync stabilizer |
18:24.42 | sorphin | but i haven't had a spare $300 |
18:24.53 | TomW | sorphin: the xmltv grabs about 9 days of TV listings and the MythTV does a nice rendering of the listings. |
18:25.04 | sorphin | nod |
18:25.17 | TomW | sorphin: the xmltv stores the listings into a mysql database. |
18:25.32 | TomW | pretty cool. |
18:25.34 | sorphin | TomW: tivocanada's stuff uses xmltv to make tivo guide data too |
18:25.55 | TomW | I cannot get the tv tuner to work, but I still use the tv guide to see what is on! heh |
18:26.03 | TomW | heh |
18:26.11 | sorphin | and one of the UPSes is b0rked |
18:26.11 | TomW | yeah |
18:26.21 | sorphin | it's fine unless you give it a real load |
18:26.31 | sorphin | if it goes to do it's every so often self test |
18:26.40 | sorphin | it kicks to overload |
18:26.47 | sorphin | and dies |
18:26.51 | sorphin | hit the power switch |
18:26.54 | sorphin | it clicks a lot |
18:26.58 | TomW | I have too many computers running now, I need to take one offline. |
18:27.14 | sorphin | till you force it all the way down |
18:27.20 | TomW | I don't think the 900VA UPS will handle all three. |
18:27.24 | sorphin | TomW: basically i fscked it up, but not sure how |
18:27.34 | sorphin | TomW: i have 2 900va UPSes |
18:27.49 | sorphin | one powers my SS20, my P4, and 2 other boxes |
18:27.56 | TomW | my other UPS is on my server at a remote location |
18:28.02 | sorphin | TomW: the 2nd one is supposed to be for my other sparcs |
18:28.11 | sorphin | TomW: i was stupid when i got this 2nd UPS |
18:28.22 | sorphin | i went to desolder the buzzer like on the other one |
18:28.30 | sorphin | but had the battery hooked up |
18:28.33 | TomW | ouch |
18:28.40 | sorphin | i get it desoldered |
18:28.42 | TomW | yup, that will do it |
18:28.51 | TomW | <snap> |
18:28.54 | sorphin | iron accidentally touches a contact on the board |
18:28.56 | sorphin | nope |
18:28.58 | sorphin | no snap |
18:29.06 | TomW | <zzzzt>? |
18:29.12 | TomW | heh |
18:29.13 | sorphin | toggled one of the relays |
18:29.59 | sorphin | which, sadly, the sound it makes now if you hit the swich when it jumps to that overload mode |
18:30.07 | sorphin | it clicks the relay a shitload of times |
18:30.20 | TomW | I did the same thing with a UPS once, once, fortunately I didn't fry it. |
18:30.27 | sorphin | this thing is too damn complex to diagnose (the UPS is) |
18:30.34 | sorphin | well |
18:30.39 | sorphin | it's not _fried_ |
18:30.51 | sorphin | it self tests clean |
18:31.01 | TomW | yeah, they are, you really need the schematic to work on them and you'd have to reverse engineer the electronics to get one. |
18:31.01 | sorphin | as long as there's no decent load |
18:31.23 | sorphin | unfortunately i think it's outta warranty too |
18:31.29 | TomW | not worth the trouble to reverse engineer them, they are so cheap anymore. |
18:31.36 | sorphin | heh |
18:31.46 | sorphin | i hate throwing out a $150 UPS tho |
18:31.53 | TomW | nod |
18:31.57 | sorphin | when it *could* be something trivial |
18:32.15 | TomW | could be, but what |
18:32.39 | sorphin | TomW: you'd prolly find it in 5 mins :P |
18:32.54 | TomW | I don't keep much junk around anymore, I tend to accumulate too much of it as it is... |
18:33.08 | sorphin | yeah |
18:33.40 | TomW | time is too short to mess around with broken stuff, I can spend that time more constructively. |
18:34.12 | sorphin | heh |
18:34.16 | TomW | well, back to moving stuff off the old workstation and onto the new one. |
18:34.19 | TomW | sorphin: later |
18:34.23 | sorphin | TomW: cya |
18:36.57 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.lanner-usa.com/IndustrialComputing.php?&category=ISAHalfsizeSBC&item=IAC-H553 |
18:37.03 | CosmicPenguin | I've been wanting to get my hands on those lately |
18:37.16 | CosmicPenguin | With a passive backplane... that would be fun... :) |
18:38.18 | CosmicPenguin | They have a VIA card too, I'm working on one for a client |
18:40.54 | file | there, abydos's new hardrive is installed |
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19:01.29 | jnork | OMFG. http://www.theregister.com/content/54/34536.html |
19:08.46 | CosmicPenguin | A few questions - whats the lifespan (due to moviing) parts, and how much vibration can it take? |
19:46.52 | Russ | geez, 2-3GB |
19:47.19 | Russ | too bad nand will pass them up before they become economical |
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21:25.27 | sorphin | pattieja: now mcleod eh? |
21:25.31 | sorphin | you sure get around ;p |
21:27.11 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
21:42.51 | CosmicPenguin | What the hell is that all about? |
21:46.31 | marklwrk | i thought it was Prince Bytor |
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22:15.39 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin |
22:17.11 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: |
22:18.40 | andersee | file: hey |
22:19.59 | file | andersee: what's up? |
22:20.24 | andersee | file: not much |
22:20.31 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: the thing go well ... |
22:20.57 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: and you will have some cppunit added to the package :) |
22:21.13 | CosmicPenguin | cppunit? |
22:21.31 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: cppunit.sf.net |
22:24.19 | CosmicPenguin | works for me |
22:25.52 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: you have no choice ... I'm starting using this ... :) btw want a great book: http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321146530/702-3872946-9177623 |
22:26.20 | CosmicPenguin | Every time I see the words software process, I want to vomit |
22:26.32 | jnork | SOFTWARE PROCESS! |
22:26.47 | file | Processing of Software! |
22:27.19 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: this is a good book ... I read it this afternoon when I was getting back from quebec city ... |
22:27.47 | file | chouimat: how is quebec city this time of year? |
22:27.57 | chouimat | full of snow |
22:29.32 | file | jnork: ...Linus Torvalds! |
22:43.26 | chouimat | hmmm my cat is in love with the fur in my winter coat |
22:44.17 | jnork | heh |
22:44.40 | chouimat | jnork: he's sleeping in it |
22:45.00 | jnork | *nod* |
22:45.03 | jnork | Sounds like a cat. |
22:45.13 | jnork | Found mine sleeping in my sock drawer the other day. |
22:45.38 | jnork | (Yes, I'd left it open.) |
22:46.19 | chouimat | jnork: me too ... actually alll my cloathes are on a chair or in the box I used when I moved here in july |
22:46.34 | jnork | Heh |
22:46.53 | chouimat | jnork: yes I now ... I need a new gf |
22:47.06 | jnork | Why, the old one wear out? |
22:47.29 | chouimat | jnork: hehe divorced 4 years ago |
22:47.37 | jnork | :( |
22:48.08 | chouimat | jnork: but now I have a nice cat ... less job to keep him happy |
22:48.51 | jnork | True. |
22:49.54 | chouimat | jnork: I'm currently using palm 5.2 |
22:49.59 | jnork | LOL |
22:52.47 | jnork | http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-132 |
22:53.04 | Russ | I'm using the all new gf 4.0, 1000 hours free |
22:53.27 | chouimat | Russ: I waiting to see the new gf tng |
22:58.36 | jnork | The Open Source version of Wife 1.0 is lower maintenance, has fewer faults, and is more upgradable than the proprietary versions. It also has been known to run well with versions of Girlfriend, if proper care is taken. |
23:03.48 | Russ | sure you don't mean the open sores version? |
23:04.04 | chouimat | hehe |
23:06.35 | jnork | Oh yes. Quite sure. |
23:06.52 | chouimat | jnork: any clustering option? |
23:08.27 | chouimat | jnork: I'm looking to have multinode but the only option I have seen make me change the power here :( |
23:13.36 | jnork | Running Girlfriend and Wife together can be tricky, and requires lots of resources, especially plenty of RAM. However, if you get the proper versions, they will sometimes share resources instead of using all yours. |
23:14.00 | chouimat | jnork: I was speaking of muslim harem 145.6 |
23:14.28 | jnork | Ah. Hmm. |
23:15.10 | chouimat | jnork: and it's not an option for me |
23:15.59 | jnork | Yeah, well, the resources for that are incredible. |
23:16.33 | chouimat | jnork: ya ... but the cost of eunuch 10.9 are prohibitive |
23:17.36 | jnork | You need multiple eunuch firewalls, and they're almost as resource-intensive as the wives. |
23:17.55 | chouimat | yup |
23:18.03 | jnork | eunuchs-based firewalls, hah hah |
23:18.14 | kergoth | hah |
23:39.47 | marklwrk | unix: the operating system with no balls |
23:40.10 | pattieja | sorphin: heh :) |
23:40.12 | pattieja | sorphin: I came in to the "office" |
23:41.24 | marklwrk | palm 5.2. that is humor |
23:41.45 | chouimat | marklwrk: hehe |
23:42.47 | chouimat | marklwrk: it was an easy one I know ... |
23:42.48 | fishhead | CANUCK |
23:42.49 | fishhead | CANUCK |
23:43.10 | chouimat | hmmm do I reply ASSHOLE to that |
23:43.11 | fishhead | merry xmas, stupid canuck |
23:43.16 | fishhead | :P |
23:43.51 | chouimat | fishhead: hi |
23:43.58 | fishhead | hey :) |
23:44.30 | fishhead | I think I am going to send out my webpal flash chip to someone to flash it for now |
23:44.38 | fishhead | so I can stay playing with linux on it |
23:48.32 | jnork | chouimat, don't characterize assholes in such a negative manner. |
23:49.32 | chouimat | jnork: :) |
23:49.35 | jnork | :) |
23:49.44 | jnork | It's an insult to assholes! |
23:50.06 | chouimat | brb I need to put my dinner in the oven |