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| 11:57.35 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:43.58 | sorphin | morning mr andersen and chris |
| 15:44.18 | kergoth | hey |
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| 15:49.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning jpc |
| 15:54.03 | CosmicPenguin | morn |
| 15:55.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: what's up? |
| 15:55.43 | kergoth | bleh. |
| 15:56.48 | sorphin | ~whaleslap kergoth |
| 15:56.51 | | ACTION slaps kergoth upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 15:56.53 | sorphin | ~thursday |
| 15:56.54 | | Thursday sucks, because it isnt friday (See friday). |
| 16:01.14 | sorphin | jnork: this isn't temple of doom |
| 16:02.07 | jnork | 38DD? |
| 16:02.11 | CosmicPenguin | seriously pepople |
| 16:02.18 | CosmicPenguin | Lets have a little decorum here |
| 16:02.28 | jnork | oh, sorrrrrry |
| 16:02.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 16:03.41 | sorphin | jnork: and if you really grunt like tim allen, you worry me |
| 16:03.46 | jnork | heh |
| 16:04.41 | jnork | My wife used to work for a hardware store |
| 16:05.18 | jnork | and one day this guy standing in line points to something on the counter |
| 16:05.38 | jnork | it's one of those gadgets they sell for a buck or two, keep in small buckets at checkout |
| 16:06.04 | jnork | So he points at it and goes, "Aoouuh?" |
| 16:06.49 | CosmicPenguin | If I was in charge, I would've kicked him out of thestore |
| 16:06.51 | jnork | And she said, "It's a combination screwdriver paint can opener paint can closer..." and I forget what else, had about five or six functions |
| 16:07.14 | jnork | And he nods and goes, "Aaaaagh." |
| 16:07.45 | jnork | Turns out he got something like second place in a national Tim Allen sound-alike contest. She said he did a perfect imitation. |
| 16:08.42 | CosmicPenguin | Who are you, and why are you bothering me? |
| 16:10.30 | jnork | I'm just an unemployed embedded systems software engineer, and I had no idea I was bothering you. |
| 16:11.09 | jnork | If I'm really being a problem, just say so and I'll leave. |
| 16:11.44 | jnork | I don't like pushing myself into places where I'm unwelcome. |
| 16:14.27 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, no... don't leave |
| 16:24.01 | sorphin | jnork: so you make more money selling magazines than you ever did at intertrode? |
| 16:33.39 | kergoth | sorphin: what are you gonna do with 40 subscriptions to vibe? |
| 16:36.37 | CosmicPenguin | I used to sell the crack now I am off |
| 16:37.13 | chouimat | arrrrggggg snow |
| 16:49.20 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone want to mess with some spammers? |
| 16:52.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 16:53.59 | CosmicPenguin | Some spammers posted a job on elance.com and gave their e-mail addresses |
| 16:54.37 | chouimat | what kind of job? |
| 16:55.13 | CosmicPenguin | e-mail harvesting |
| 16:55.27 | CosmicPenguin | We are looking to put a b2b eNewsletter online and NEED B2B insurance related email addresses ASAP. |
| 16:55.27 | CosmicPenguin | We have several specific sites in mind that need to be explored by a skilled database/security specialist. |
| 16:55.49 | marklwrk | is there a message queue expert in the house |
| 16:55.53 | marklwrk | msgget ec |
| 16:55.54 | marklwrk | etc |
| 16:56.14 | CosmicPenguin | Toss it out bro, one of us is bound to know |
| 16:56.26 | CosmicPenguin | Or at least, have access to the Stevens book to look it up |
| 16:56.39 | marklwrk | is it possible to have multiple processes running msgrcv on the same queue |
| 16:56.46 | marklwrk | or is that just a bad idea altogether |
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| 16:57.06 | fishhead | any webpal users here |
| 16:57.15 | fishhead | know if the cirrus arm chip can handle mp3 |
| 16:57.23 | fishhead | because I found a source of webpals's for $9.99 |
| 16:57.41 | sjhill | fishhead: i believe sorphin was perverted enough to work on those |
| 16:57.58 | fishhead | cool |
| 16:58.13 | CosmicPenguin | marklwrk: I think that would be a horrible idea |
| 16:58.38 | chouimat | sjhill: sorphin is perverted enought to work on anything |
| 16:58.39 | CosmicPenguin | Can you thread the processes instead? Then you get yummy semaphore action |
| 16:59.25 | marklwrk | possibly. i would prefer to just open a different queue for each process that needs to listen |
| 17:05.18 | CosmicPenguin | You just can't control which process will be reading the queue at any time |
| 17:05.27 | CosmicPenguin | Its a situation rife with peril |
| 17:18.51 | sorphin | chouimat: shaddup frenchy |
| 17:19.04 | sorphin | sjhill: and you're just biased cuz it's not MIPS |
| 17:19.27 | sorphin | fishhead: i don't think it would do an mp3 that well, honestly, it's so low power |
| 17:19.36 | sorphin | not even 40mhz |
| 17:19.43 | fishhead | oh |
| 17:19.47 | fishhead | :/ |
| 17:19.54 | fishhead | mabye I will only get 1-2 then |
| 17:20.47 | chouimat | sorphin: I have a mp3 player on my colorcomputer3 :) |
| 17:21.19 | fishhead | hey canuckimat |
| 17:21.21 | fishhead | do you know ? |
| 17:21.34 | chouimat | anyone have experience with openmosix? |
| 17:21.38 | sorphin | chouimat: yes |
| 17:21.51 | chouimat | sorphin: easy to setup? |
| 17:21.56 | sorphin | chouimat: fairly |
| 17:23.10 | fishhead | ouch |
| 17:23.19 | fishhead | $21 shipping if I buy 2 |
| 17:23.23 | chouimat | sorphin: ok I'm wondering if I install it here |
| 17:23.45 | sorphin | fishhead: cost me bout that |
| 17:23.48 | Russ | http://foxtrot.com/ |
| 17:23.57 | sorphin | fishhead: they're fairly heavy for what they are |
| 17:24.31 | fishhead | oh |
| 17:24.36 | fishhead | damn |
| 17:24.36 | chouimat | hmmmm the cad is at 0.77usd |
| 17:24.44 | fishhead | mabye only get one then :/ |
| 17:25.33 | sorphin | chouimat: wish it was 1.00 US so i could actually get something back for this $15 CAD i have still |
| 17:25.33 | fishhead | looks like sound support is pretty much canucked anyways |
| 17:25.43 | sorphin | fishhead: indeed |
| 17:26.06 | chouimat | sorphin: I still have about 330 Czech krone here |
| 17:26.15 | fishhead | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 17:26.48 | fishhead | email even |
| 17:28.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:28.45 | sorphin | fishhead: might as well buy my mailstation :P |
| 17:29.01 | chouimat | sorphin: mailstation? |
| 17:30.44 | sorphin | chouimat: little device meant for only email |
| 17:30.50 | chouimat | k |
| 17:30.59 | fishhead | has a lcd |
| 17:33.32 | sorphin | fishhead: and the equiv of a z80 |
| 17:33.41 | fishhead | heh |
| 17:33.45 | fishhead | z80 rocks |
| 17:33.48 | fishhead | so does the 8051 |
| 17:33.56 | fishhead | old microcontrollers that refuse to die |
| 17:34.06 | fishhead | I just saw a wireless mesh network product that uses a 8051 core |
| 17:34.36 | Russ | I love how you can get an 8051 with flash and ram for $1 |
| 17:34.42 | fishhead | yeah |
| 17:34.50 | fishhead | I haven't done any work with them yet |
| 17:34.53 | fishhead | but all my reading |
| 17:35.01 | fishhead | despite not being the fastest or most efficient |
| 17:35.05 | fishhead | 8051 continues to kick ass |
| 17:35.36 | Russ | I have a keyboard passthough I'm doing with one of those |
| 17:35.50 | fishhead | heheh |
| 17:36.01 | fishhead | 8051 owns your canuck |
| 17:36.04 | sorphin | Russ: that Ritz digital camera (the throwaway) uses the equiv of an 8051 |
| 17:36.13 | fishhead | yep |
| 17:36.15 | fishhead | that one too |
| 17:36.25 | fishhead | sophion that has to be a pain in the ass too |
| 17:36.39 | fishhead | considering 8051 standard has 64kb program mem and 64kb data mem |
| 17:36.42 | fishhead | adress space |
| 17:36.49 | fishhead | so they either used an extended version |
| 17:36.50 | sorphin | fishhead: it only uses it for controlling |
| 17:36.54 | fishhead | or they had to bank switch out the canuck |
| 17:36.57 | fishhead | yeah I know |
| 17:37.00 | sorphin | the photo stuff is diff chipset |
| 17:37.12 | sorphin | fishhead: they don't even use the ...51 extensions |
| 17:37.21 | fishhead | no |
| 17:37.24 | fishhead | 251 extensions |
| 17:37.32 | fishhead | meaning they might havbe used a 80251 |
| 17:37.37 | fishhead | 16 bit version |
| 17:38.30 | fishhead | I see tons of products like that use a 8051 core for contol functions |
| 17:38.31 | fishhead | scanners |
| 17:38.34 | sorphin | fishhead: did you look at the orgical? |
| 17:38.36 | sorphin | erm |
| 17:38.36 | fishhead | usb flash driver controllers |
| 17:38.37 | sorphin | article |
| 17:38.41 | fishhead | yeah |
| 17:38.43 | sorphin | damn my brain isn't awake |
| 17:39.03 | fishhead | it's okay I have adhd |
| 17:39.08 | fishhead | 29 yrs I never feel awake |
| 17:39.42 | Russ | the matrix has you fishhead |
| 17:39.45 | fishhead | heh |
| 17:39.48 | fishhead | no |
| 17:39.53 | fishhead | someone pissed in my gene pool has me |
| 17:40.23 | sorphin | mallum_: allo tosspot |
| 17:40.32 | mallum_ | sorphin: allo guv |
| 17:40.49 | mallum_ | sorphin: is it you that has like 100 tivo's ? |
| 17:41.01 | sorphin | mallum_: 4, 3 series 1s and a series 2 |
| 17:41.30 | mallum_ | sorphin: you cant even get tivo's in the uk anymore |
| 17:41.47 | mallum_ | you can get them on ebay for approx 400 quid |
| 17:41.55 | Russ | mallum_: why not? some law? |
| 17:42.03 | sorphin | mallum_: i'm sure you can get the Sky version still :P |
| 17:42.18 | mallum_ | sorphin: yeah dont have sky though |
| 17:42.32 | sorphin | mallum_: wow, a terrestrial user? |
| 17:42.33 | mallum_ | sorphin: we are not allowed to put sattelite dishes up where I live |
| 17:42.33 | fishhead | yeah I think the webpal is only worth buying 1 |
| 17:42.38 | mallum_ | sorphin: cable |
| 17:42.44 | sorphin | mallum_: even worse |
| 17:42.49 | mallum_ | fishhead: as a bookend |
| 17:43.00 | fishhead | but seriously |
| 17:43.03 | fishhead | I bust out laughing |
| 17:43.10 | fishhead | at all the produccts that use 8051 cores |
| 17:43.12 | fishhead | cdrom drives |
| 17:43.15 | fishhead | dvd drives |
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| 17:43.18 | fishhead | scanners |
| 17:43.19 | mallum_ | sorphin: when we move I wanna get sky with the dual decoder uber tivo doo berry |
| 17:43.19 | fishhead | keyboards |
| 17:43.21 | sorphin | mallum_: NTL? (i forget who does cable in the UK) |
| 17:43.28 | fishhead | I mean its insane |
| 17:43.28 | mallum_ | sorphin: telewest |
| 17:43.32 | sorphin | mallum_: gag |
| 17:43.35 | fishhead | microcontrollers own you |
| 17:43.37 | mallum_ | sorphin: slightly less ghetto than NTL |
| 17:44.03 | sorphin | mallum_: only slightly |
| 17:44.32 | mallum_ | sorphin: do you like '24' ? |
| 17:44.50 | sorphin | mallum_: never watched it |
| 17:44.55 | mallum_ | sorphin: doh |
| 17:45.10 | sorphin | mallum_: btw, calling telewest slightly less ghetto than NTL |
| 17:45.16 | mallum_ | sorphin: been bittorrenting series 3 episodes, dont start here till March ! |
| 17:45.21 | sorphin | is like calling Tescos a superstore |
| 17:45.27 | mallum_ | hehe |
| 17:45.46 | mallum_ | sorphin: NTL do crappy broadband. telewest you can get up to 2 megs |
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| 17:45.51 | sorphin | mallum_: or calling BT a quality phone company |
| 17:45.59 | sorphin | TimRiker: morning mr T |
| 17:46.17 | mallum_ | I pity the fool sucka ! |
| 17:46.45 | sorphin | ~bichslap mallum_ |
| 17:47.00 | fishhead | holy mother of canuck, they have a webpal version without a modem for $5.99 |
| 17:47.11 | sorphin | fishhead: nod |
| 17:47.22 | sorphin | TimRiker: anyone who's worked w/ BT shudders ;) |
| 17:47.27 | CosmicPenguin | Whats with all the canuck crap? |
| 17:47.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: apparently, fishhead has a prob w/ canucks ;) |
| 17:48.02 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: after all, they are our communist neighbors to the north |
| 17:48.05 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:48.09 | TimRiker | blame it on canada |
| 17:48.30 | mallum_ | sorphin: when you coming to UK next ? |
| 17:48.45 | sorphin | mallum_: when fares cooperate |
| 17:49.03 | sorphin | mallum_: i've yet to be able to beat the $450 USD RT tkt i had in 2k |
| 17:49.21 | sorphin | and that was in Mar-Apr |
| 17:52.11 | Russ | too bad sw doesn't fly to the UK |
| 17:52.23 | sorphin | Russ: last time i flew Air Canuck |
| 17:52.33 | sorphin | so had to stop in Toronto |
| 17:52.35 | sorphin | scary place |
| 17:53.06 | sorphin | and of course British Airways only flys to the coast |
| 17:53.17 | sorphin | and AA jus tsucks |
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| 17:59.09 | chouimat | sorphin: comunist to you and fascist to real communist |
| 17:59.40 | sorphin | chouimat: don't make me send file to live w/ you |
| 17:59.59 | chouimat | sorphin: hehe |
| 18:01.32 | sorphin | chouimat: he'd be your pet (he's already the channel pet :P ) |
| 18:02.25 | chouimat | sorphin: ewwwwww |
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| 19:15.24 | Russ | ibot: seen andresee |
| 19:15.28 | | Russ: i haven't seen 'andresee' |
| 19:15.32 | Russ | ibot: seen andersee |
| 19:15.32 | | andersee <~andersee@codepoet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 2h 23m 15s ago, saying: 'dsmith: there was a problem I fixed last night with binutils that could cause that'. |
| 19:16.00 | Russ | hmm...anyone compile stuff for uclinux? |
| 19:18.20 | fishhead | hey guys |
| 19:18.27 | fishhead | 1 question about the webpel |
| 19:18.29 | Russ | hey canuck lover |
| 19:18.38 | fishhead | you can reflash it with linux from the system right ? |
| 19:18.48 | fishhead | or does it need a programmer the first time |
| 19:18.48 | Russ | from what system? |
| 19:18.53 | fishhead | webpel |
| 19:18.58 | Russ | I dunno, there is some serial port debugger thing |
| 19:19.40 | sorphin | fishhead: well.. you *can* flash it from linux |
| 19:19.53 | sorphin | well, via serial |
| 19:19.58 | sorphin | fishhead: if you hose it |
| 19:20.02 | fishhead | or parallel it said |
| 19:20.16 | sorphin | well, i've only done serial |
| 19:20.19 | sorphin | regardless |
| 19:20.19 | fishhead | I just wasn't sure if you had to flash it initially with a programmer |
| 19:20.21 | sorphin | if you hose it |
| 19:20.28 | fishhead | okay then |
| 19:20.29 | sorphin | you need a programmer :P |
| 19:20.33 | fishhead | I have the parallel cable |
| 19:20.39 | sorphin | fishhead: be careful :P |
| 19:20.44 | fishhead | I will try |
| 19:20.48 | sorphin | it takes very little to fsck it up |
| 19:20.52 | fishhead | :? |
| 19:20.54 | fishhead | :/ |
| 19:20.59 | fishhead | mabye I shouldn't buy this then |
| 19:21.06 | fishhead | do you think it;s worth it |
| 19:21.23 | MonMotha | fishhead: it's a $10 device :) |
| 19:21.29 | fishhead | true |
| 19:21.33 | fishhead | but I hate trashing stuff |
| 19:21.38 | fishhead | no matter how cheap |
| 19:21.39 | MonMotha | and if you hose it, there's people who hang around in here who will unbrick it if you send them the flash SIMM for next to nothing |
| 19:21.47 | fishhead | ah |
| 19:21.51 | fishhead | just wanted to Needed to know |
| 19:21.56 | fishhead | I |
| 19:22.10 | fishhead | yeha I will order one then |
| 19:22.27 | sorphin | MonMotha: while that's true |
| 19:22.35 | sorphin | tomw's unbricking didn't work for me |
| 19:22.43 | sorphin | and my flasher still won't work |
| 19:22.46 | MonMotha | I ordered two, got them with UK power supplies, mentioned said fact (wasn't pissed, just wanted to let them know since they advertised them as US version), so they sent me two more for free |
| 19:22.49 | MonMotha | sorphin: hum... |
| 19:22.59 | MonMotha | I think I've got the sutff to program those ROMs on campus around here |
| 19:23.02 | sorphin | MonMotha: think it's an issue w/ the 877 vs the 877A |
| 19:23.04 | MonMotha | might need to build an adapter tho |
| 19:23.11 | fishhead | i'll give it a shot |
| 19:23.16 | MonMotha | I don't have a webp with me |
| 19:23.19 | MonMotha | just my tux |
| 19:23.25 | MonMotha | that's still in a box in my car |
| 19:23.26 | fishhead | I wonder if the cpu can be overclocked |
| 19:23.30 | fishhead | just enough to do mp3 |
| 19:23.33 | MonMotha | probably not liking the near freezing temps |
| 19:23.36 | MonMotha | fishhead: it has an FPU |
| 19:23.38 | MonMotha | that may help |
| 19:23.41 | fishhead | oh |
| 19:23.43 | fishhead | cool |
| 19:24.05 | fishhead | hmm |
| 19:24.05 | MonMotha | I don't know if it's fast enough even with that |
| 19:24.07 | fishhead | that flash memory |
| 19:24.10 | sorphin | MonMotha: at it's blazing speed of 33mhz |
| 19:24.12 | MonMotha | but the FPU could certainly help |
| 19:24.12 | sorphin | or somesuch |
| 19:24.15 | fishhead | is it in a dip package |
| 19:24.16 | MonMotha | sorphin: 40 I thought |
| 19:24.20 | sorphin | fishhead: no |
| 19:24.22 | MonMotha | fishhead: nope, TSSOP on a SIMM |
| 19:24.25 | sorphin | fishhead: it's a simm |
| 19:24.27 | fishhead | ewww |
| 19:24.31 | fishhead | "CANUCKED" |
| 19:24.35 | MonMotha | proprietary pinout too, so you'd have to make an adapter to use it in standard programs |
| 19:24.36 | sorphin | fishhead: indeed |
| 19:24.39 | MonMotha | *programmers |
| 19:24.45 | fishhead | if it was dip I could stick it into a pc bios sockert |
| 19:24.48 | fishhead | to reprogram it |
| 19:24.56 | fishhead | hto swap bios socket programmer |
| 19:25.00 | fishhead | I have done that before |
| 19:25.11 | MonMotha | that's real safe on your bios chip :) |
| 19:25.21 | fishhead | oh I don't care |
| 19:25.25 | fishhead | I use a pos MB |
| 19:25.29 | fishhead | too buggy for anything else |
| 19:25.33 | sorphin | MonMotha: i've done it that way |
| 19:25.34 | sorphin | AND |
| 19:25.41 | MonMotha | sorphin: not saying it doesn't work :) |
| 19:25.50 | sorphin | if it's an SST type 32 pinner |
| 19:25.55 | sorphin | i can flash it in a tivo :P |
| 19:26.05 | sorphin | plcc |
| 19:26.10 | MonMotha | sorphin: heh, I just gave up and built myself a programmer |
| 19:26.11 | sorphin | type i mean |
| 19:26.13 | MonMotha | well, almost built |
| 19:26.17 | MonMotha | need to finish one last thing |
| 19:26.25 | sorphin | MonMotha: well, if i could sort out this damn PIC issue |
| 19:26.31 | sorphin | my programmer would be fine |
| 19:26.49 | MonMotha | (watch the pile of about $30 worth of 74 series not work :) |
| 19:27.26 | sorphin | *ZAP* |
| 19:29.31 | Russ | its really easy to make a flasher though |
| 19:29.31 | Russ | just use a big CPLD, they have a boundry scan function |
| 19:29.34 | Russ | then jtag it |
| 19:29.40 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:30.12 | sorphin | Russ: do i look like my name is TomW, GPSFan or Russ? ;) |
| 19:30.27 | Russ | what? |
| 19:30.29 | sorphin | never touched a CPLD, hell, this lil bit here is hte 1st i've messed w/ a PIC |
| 19:30.36 | Russ | you want me to make you one in pcb or something? |
| 19:30.46 | sorphin | they didn't go that deep in my EE studies :P |
| 19:30.47 | Russ | you don't program the CPLD |
| 19:31.05 | Russ | are you familar with a jtag boundry scan, like you use to program the tuxscreen? |
| 19:31.14 | sorphin | Russ: somewhat |
| 19:31.19 | sorphin | read about it |
| 19:31.24 | Russ | the pins of a CPLD can be made to act in the same way |
| 19:31.43 | Russ | then you just plug yer parallel port into the cpld jtag pins |
| 19:31.45 | Russ | and off you go |
| 19:31.54 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:32.11 | sorphin | what i really wish, is that Microchip would quit changing things between versions of a chip :P |
| 19:32.12 | Russ | you just hook all the cpld pins up to the simm socket in the most convient way |
| 19:32.21 | sorphin | i.e. the programming of the A isn't like the non A |
| 19:32.23 | sorphin | etc |
| 19:32.59 | sorphin | i should ping bigbrd again, lost contact in the midst of troubleshooting this thing |
| 19:35.17 | fishhead | 74 series logic owns |
| 19:35.27 | fishhead | I don't care how much power it eats and how slow it is |
| 19:35.30 | fishhead | it's just damn useful |
| 19:35.36 | fishhead | too bad I haven't done anything yet |
| 19:35.42 | fishhead | too scared to start |
| 19:35.44 | fishhead | damn ocd |
| 19:35.57 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:35.58 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:36.04 | Russ | 74 series logic slow? |
| 19:36.06 | fishhead | ASM WILL MAKE YA |
| 19:36.15 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:36.20 | Russ | are you aware that there have been several advances in logic families? |
| 19:36.28 | fishhead | JMP |
| 19:36.34 | Russ | how high? |
| 19:36.39 | fishhead | russ well I guess they have high speed ones now |
| 19:36.44 | fishhead | haven't checked in a while |
| 19:36.56 | fishhead | but I bet the cmos versions are probably pretty quick |
| 19:37.06 | fishhead | I am going to stick with old LS ttl series when I can |
| 19:37.09 | fishhead | because it's idiot proof |
| 19:37.25 | Russ | low rise time can be a killer |
| 19:37.26 | sorphin | ~whaleslap fishhead |
| 19:37.29 | | ACTION slaps fishhead upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:37.41 | Russ | fishhead: do you like c and asm? |
| 19:37.51 | fishhead | haven;t learned them yet |
| 19:37.53 | fishhead | still debating |
| 19:37.56 | Russ | heh |
| 19:38.05 | Russ | I was going to recommend doing projects with verilog |
| 19:38.12 | Russ | but nm then |
| 19:38.31 | Russ | speaking of asm |
| 19:38.32 | fishhead | I just want to start the basics man |
| 19:38.32 | Russ | blo me |
| 19:38.38 | fishhead | russ what I want to learn is |
| 19:38.43 | fishhead | microcontrollers |
| 19:38.45 | sorphin | Russ: are you sure you're not a verilog seller? :P |
| 19:38.54 | Russ | no, but I do like it |
| 19:38.54 | fishhead | pulse width modulation motor control |
| 19:38.58 | fishhead | and power regulations |
| 19:39.01 | fishhead | led lighting |
| 19:39.13 | Russ | all that stuff should be on the internet |
| 19:39.21 | fishhead | that FPGA stuff is too high end for me |
| 19:39.22 | fishhead | but neat |
| 19:39.27 | Russ | but asm is fun too, you get to learn mneunomics like "sex" and "blo me" |
| 19:39.38 | fishhead | Russ have you seen www.cypressmicro.com |
| 19:39.39 | Russ | fishhead: FPGA stuff is too high end |
| 19:39.46 | Russ | fishhead: thats why there are CPLD's |
| 19:39.50 | Russ | fishhead: ya |
| 19:39.56 | fishhead | kinda neat |
| 19:40.05 | Russ | ti.com is also neat... |
| 19:40.06 | fishhead | my favorites are 8051 and avr but still looks neat |
| 19:40.07 | sorphin | fishhead: i should hit you for mentioning PWM around me |
| 19:40.12 | Russ | oh, you want an 8051? |
| 19:40.15 | fishhead | why ? |
| 19:40.16 | Russ | try phillips |
| 19:40.17 | fishhead | PWM OWNS YOUR CANUCK |
| 19:40.32 | Russ | also, if you want neat toys, try maxim-ic.com |
| 19:40.34 | *** mode/#elinux [+o sorphin] by ChanServ |
| 19:40.39 | sorphin | fishhead: you were saying? |
| 19:40.40 | fishhead | yeah I have seen a lot of that |
| 19:40.47 | fishhead | I been reading all about this stuff the last yr |
| 19:40.53 | fishhead | trying to decide on going back to college |
| 19:41.06 | Russ | atmel too |
| 19:41.20 | fishhead | CANUCK |
| 19:41.30 | fishhead | that's for your countries MANY acts of terrorism |
| 19:41.30 | sorphin | fishhead: i'm not a canuck thankfully |
| 19:41.40 | fishhead | like celin dion's titanic soundtrack or the sci fi series lexx |
| 19:41.42 | fishhead | oh |
| 19:41.43 | sorphin | fishhead: eh? |
| 19:41.49 | Russ | http://www.designtools.co.nz/overview.htm |
| 19:41.58 | sorphin | fishhead: i'm from the US, thanks |
| 19:42.00 | fishhead | sorphin dude |
| 19:42.08 | fishhead | have you read about all the progress with IGBT |
| 19:42.18 | fishhead | and also comapanies trying to get motor control cost down |
| 19:42.36 | fishhead | this stuff could really help energy efficiency |
| 19:42.37 | sorphin | fishhead: dude, the dimming on the dash in my new car using PWM |
| 19:42.39 | sorphin | :P |
| 19:42.45 | fishhead | not to mention make stuff last longer |
| 19:42.48 | sorphin | messes w/ my radio's illumination |
| 19:42.49 | Russ | http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/mms/products/microcontrollers/ |
| 19:42.51 | fishhead | by reducing mechanical parts |
| 19:42.53 | fishhead | russ I know |
| 19:42.56 | fishhead | I know but thanks |
| 19:43.11 | Russ | lpc761 pwnzers j0 |
| 19:43.15 | fishhead | cygnal has a 25 mips 8051 that is a spec size on a dime |
| 19:43.21 | fishhead | they also have a 100 mips one |
| 19:43.23 | fishhead | mixed signal stuff |
| 19:43.32 | fishhead | sorphin cool :) |
| 19:43.34 | fishhead | pwm rocks |
| 19:43.40 | sorphin | Russ: j00 R n0+ 133+ |
| 19:43.40 | fishhead | espically for motor stuff |
| 19:43.48 | sorphin | fishhead: not cool |
| 19:43.53 | sorphin | fishhead: that damn 400hz PWM |
| 19:43.56 | fishhead | insted of just letting a motor waste power as excess heat |
| 19:44.03 | fishhead | you force it to use only what it needs |
| 19:44.20 | fishhead | sorphin what's the problem ? |
| 19:44.24 | fishhead | hard time doing it ? |
| 19:44.30 | sorphin | randomly makes the illumination go bright, cuz it confuzes the radio, since it only needs a 12V signal to know to dim |
| 19:44.39 | fishhead | heh |
| 19:44.43 | sorphin | it doesn't want 400hz thrown at it :P |
| 19:44.46 | fishhead | mabye you can add some cheap filters or something |
| 19:44.56 | fishhead | what about some caps |
| 19:45.00 | sorphin | was trying to figure out that one |
| 19:45.09 | sorphin | and of course TomW made it out more complex than that |
| 19:45.16 | fishhead | heh |
| 19:45.25 | sorphin | fishhead: plus |
| 19:45.29 | fishhead | all I know is this stuff has the potential to change the world in some ways |
| 19:45.32 | sorphin | my sat nav has voice |
| 19:45.34 | sorphin | but |
| 19:45.37 | fishhead | terms of efficiency |
| 19:45.47 | sorphin | i need to use the voice to trigger the mute wire on my radio |
| 19:45.50 | fishhead | brushed motors suck ass espically |
| 19:45.53 | fishhead | heh |
| 19:46.02 | sorphin | since it can't feed directly into it like the stock radio |
| 19:46.03 | sorphin | :P |
| 19:46.19 | fishhead | sounds like you need to isolate some circuits |
| 19:46.57 | sorphin | actually |
| 19:47.02 | sorphin | what i need to decide |
| 19:47.21 | sorphin | is how to sense the voice is talking, and switch +12V to the mute wire to mute the radio |
| 19:48.04 | fishhead | I would love to mod my car with all leds |
| 19:48.11 | fishhead | seomday when I have more $$$ |
| 19:48.27 | sorphin | fishhead: the mini uses all LEDs in hte dash |
| 19:48.33 | sorphin | unfortunately orange |
| 19:48.42 | sorphin | someone's changed them to blue tho |
| 19:48.49 | sorphin | and i intend to as well :P i love blue |
| 19:49.00 | fishhead | yeah blue and white are my favorites |
| 19:49.17 | fishhead | but are getting more econmical |
| 19:49.22 | fishhead | damn I can't think of the word right now |
| 19:50.09 | fishhead | I have 2 led flashlights and bought them as gifts for people last yr alaos |
| 19:52.00 | MonMotha | Russ: forget the new stuff; I'll stick with my 80C415...in DIP packaging (!) thank you :) |
| 19:52.05 | MonMotha | er 451 |
| 19:52.20 | fishhead | mmmm |
| 19:52.25 | fishhead | 80C451 ? |
| 19:52.30 | fishhead | what is that |
| 19:52.51 | Russ | MonMotha: but the new ones have on board flash and ram |
| 19:53.02 | Russ | MonMotha: so its a lot easier to whip things up |
| 19:53.04 | MonMotha | Russ: I know :) |
| 19:53.08 | MonMotha | I was joking |
| 19:53.11 | MonMotha | notice the DIP packaging |
| 19:53.12 | fishhead | they have new ones with flash |
| 19:53.13 | fishhead | that are dip |
| 19:53.13 | MonMotha | that's a 64 pin device |
| 19:53.20 | Russ | well, the new ones come in dip packages too |
| 19:53.27 | MonMotha | yeah, but they ahve less than 64 pins :) |
| 19:53.40 | fishhead | what is a 80c451 |
| 19:53.41 | Russ | I have an 65B02 around here |
| 19:53.50 | fishhead | I love microcontrollers |
| 19:53.52 | MonMotha | fishhead: expanded IO 8051 |
| 19:53.54 | fishhead | I mean it's like |
| 19:53.58 | fishhead | here is this little chip |
| 19:54.09 | MonMotha | has I think two extra 8 bit ports and another 4 bit port (on DIP) or somethingl ike that |
| 19:54.13 | fishhead | that is a computer that can bring intelligence to everyday stuff |
| 19:54.16 | fishhead | mon nice |
| 19:54.26 | Russ | er, sorry, 65C02A |
| 19:54.49 | fishhead | is the 6502 still alive or not |
| 19:54.55 | fishhead | I get mixed signals from my research |
| 19:54.58 | MonMotha | that one's a bit before my time |
| 19:55.08 | fishhead | mon how old are you |
| 19:55.16 | Russ | MonMotha: the 8051 is much older than the 6502 iirc |
| 19:55.20 | MonMotha | I'm trying to figure out which archetecture to dink around with next, z80, m68k, i960 |
| 19:55.20 | fishhead | yeah |
| 19:55.23 | fishhead | 8051 is 79 |
| 19:55.25 | MonMotha | Russ: but the 8051 is still very common |
| 19:55.33 | fishhead | m68k cisc or risc |
| 19:55.40 | fishhead | the coldfire series is risc |
| 19:55.44 | Russ | I think the 6502 powered gameboys |
| 19:55.46 | fishhead | which one are you going to play with |
| 19:55.57 | MonMotha | fishhead: certainly not newer ones, so probably the old cisc ones |
| 19:56.06 | MonMotha | I've got an i960KB to play with tho |
| 19:56.07 | fishhead | russ appleII, nintendo, laser128, c64.=, atari, |
| 19:56.08 | MonMotha | got it for free |
| 19:56.19 | fishhead | i960 are neat i/o risc engines |
| 19:56.28 | fishhead | I guess intel discontinued it :/ |
| 19:56.29 | Russ | play with the M6800 MonMotha |
| 19:56.33 | MonMotha | fishhead: oh they still make them |
| 19:56.38 | fishhead | I have a old laptop |
| 19:56.42 | fishhead | epxon HX20 |
| 19:56.42 | MonMotha | and they're quite willing to send you the docs on them :) |
| 19:56.47 | fishhead | has two 6801 compatibles |
| 19:56.47 | MonMotha | Russ: hum, ok |
| 19:56.52 | MonMotha | need to finish my 8051 thing first |
| 19:56.53 | fishhead | I should put it back together |
| 19:56.56 | MonMotha | just need some sort of program |
| 19:56.57 | fishhead | 8051 rocks dude |
| 19:57.02 | MonMotha | I may put an etherenet port on it...or not |
| 19:57.16 | fishhead | I know where you can get docs on ether |
| 19:57.24 | fishhead | do you know dallas sells a 8051 with ether |
| 19:57.29 | MonMotha | getting TCP/IP usable in 8kiB of RAM may be a bit challenging |
| 19:57.34 | fishhead | na |
| 19:57.37 | fishhead | they have small stacks |
| 19:57.37 | MonMotha | fishhead: yeah, have a could of them actually :) |
| 19:57.40 | Russ | MonMotha: just do udp |
| 19:57.45 | fishhead | UCTCP |
| 19:57.46 | MonMotha | Russ: ah, good point |
| 19:57.48 | fishhead | I think it's called |
| 19:57.56 | Russ | don't bother with the checksum either |
| 19:58.02 | MonMotha | still, buffering an entire fram would take over 1/8th my RAM |
| 19:58.15 | MonMotha | unless I get a controller with onboard RAM |
| 19:58.15 | fishhead | montha get a latch |
| 19:58.18 | MonMotha | ethernet that is |
| 19:58.21 | fishhead | use some seperate ram |
| 19:58.23 | fishhead | each or do that |
| 19:58.27 | MonMotha | I am using separate RAM :) |
| 19:58.29 | fishhead | have ram on the ether chip |
| 19:58.32 | MonMotha | that's my 8kB :) |
| 19:58.41 | MonMotha | the onboard RAM is like 512bytes |
| 19:58.42 | fishhead | must be fun |
| 19:58.46 | fishhead | I need to get over my phears |
| 19:58.49 | fishhead | and dive in |
| 19:58.55 | MonMotha | yeah, 64kiB of ROM too (most the chip can address) |
| 19:59.01 | fishhead | yeah I know |
| 19:59.06 | fishhead | or you can bank switch omre |
| 19:59.13 | fishhead | or get a extended 8051 that can handle up to 16 meg |
| 19:59.34 | MonMotha | bank switching the ROM might get a bit challenging since I have to run th eprog directly out of the ROM |
| 19:59.35 | fishhead | oh btw |
| 19:59.36 | fishhead | russ |
| 19:59.41 | fishhead | you might like this also |
| 19:59.45 | fishhead | ST MICRO |
| 19:59.49 | fishhead | has a 8051 |
| 19:59.56 | fishhead | UP TO 512KB FLASH AND 32KB SRAM |
| 20:00.05 | fishhead | AND A BANK OF PSD LOGIC |
| 20:00.06 | fishhead | CALLED MICROPSD |
| 20:00.17 | Russ | at that point, I'd go with a chip with better addressing capabilities |
| 20:00.22 | fishhead | TRUE |
| 20:00.27 | MonMotha | caps lock... |
| 20:00.32 | fishhead | yeah sorry |
| 20:00.34 | fishhead | this laptop keyboard sucks |
| 20:00.41 | fishhead | it;s a 486-100 8 meg ram |
| 20:00.46 | fishhead | connected to a win2k box via vnc |
| 20:00.51 | fishhead | the keboard is canucked |
| 20:00.52 | MonMotha | I know...my laptop keyboard has the caps lock key too easily accesasble |
| 20:00.58 | fishhead | I need to build a ps/2 port splitter |
| 20:01.04 | MonMotha | though my laptop is a P4/2.2GHz :) |
| 20:01.04 | fishhead | so I can use a keyboard and mouse at same time |
| 20:01.09 | fishhead | might do that in a hr |
| 20:01.12 | fishhead | I got this free |
| 20:01.21 | fishhead | the lcd is dual scan 640x480x65535 |
| 20:01.24 | fishhead | but it looks good |
| 20:01.47 | fishhead | I don't have any spare monitors anymore that are worth anything |
| 20:01.48 | MonMotha | I've got an old P166 I got for free that I used to carry aroudn for network diag |
| 20:01.51 | fishhead | and my athlon is down for now |
| 20:02.34 | fishhead | monmontha |
| 20:02.41 | fishhead | I am sure you know this already |
| 20:02.41 | MonMotha | need to finish building my clock for logic design class |
| 20:02.55 | MonMotha | we have a clock...without a clock since somebody can't seem to build a mod 12 counter if his life depended on it |
| 20:02.57 | fishhead | mon have you seen those little graphical lcd's |
| 20:03.01 | MonMotha | of course |
| 20:03.02 | fishhead | like $29 for 240x64 |
| 20:03.10 | fishhead | and they take a 8 or 4 bit parallel input |
| 20:03.14 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 20:03.18 | fishhead | so you can run them off a parallel port or UC |
| 20:03.21 | fishhead | neat stuff |
| 20:03.21 | MonMotha | yup |
| 20:03.28 | MonMotha | yup |
| 20:03.34 | fishhead | I always thought the graphical ones required a full video card etc |
| 20:03.38 | fishhead | but I was glad to be wrong |
| 20:03.45 | fishhead | :) |
| 20:03.54 | fishhead | bl |
| 20:03.57 | fishhead | bbl |
| 20:04.00 | Russ | reset = b3 and b2 |
| 20:04.01 | Russ | ... |
| 20:04.15 | MonMotha | Russ: hum? |
| 20:04.20 | Russ | mod 12 counter |
| 20:04.23 | MonMotha | oh, yeah |
| 20:04.31 | MonMotha | he seems to be unable to get it to actually work |
| 20:04.42 | fishhead | montha switching technology for regulation scares me also |
| 20:04.42 | MonMotha | so we have a clock that displays fancy ASCII messages, all sorts of stuff |
| 20:04.46 | MonMotha | but doesn't have a clock... |
| 20:04.53 | fishhead | they have chips that get close to 98% efficient |
| 20:04.56 | sorphin | grr |
| 20:04.57 | fishhead | see y |
| 20:04.58 | sorphin | sorry, someone rebooted the damn router i was sitting on |
| 20:04.59 | MonMotha | I'm about to just build it myself |
| 20:05.28 | MonMotha | sorphin: possibly you? :) |
| 20:05.56 | MonMotha | I mean, if you're sitting on it, it's awfully easy to knock out a power cable or some such |
| 20:06.30 | sorphin | MonMotha: not literally |
| 20:06.33 | sorphin | i'm telnet'd into it |
| 20:06.38 | MonMotha | ah |
| 20:07.22 | fishhead | back |
| 20:07.32 | fishhead | Monmontha you know what else is nice |
| 20:07.35 | fishhead | powerPC |
| 20:07.43 | fishhead | it was kinda a joke for desktop and some servers |
| 20:07.57 | fishhead | it wasn;t the cisc killer they made it out to be in 1993 |
| 20:08.04 | fishhead | but it totally hauls ass and then some for embedded |
| 20:08.21 | fishhead | ibm and motrola has tons of system on a chip designs with embedded ppc cores |
| 20:08.32 | fishhead | in fact motorola just released a new one for engine controller |
| 20:08.48 | fishhead | since ppc can do many dsp functions in software really well it can be used to listen to the sound of the engine |
| 20:08.51 | fishhead | to detect changes |
| 20:39.33 | fishhead | <flyback-> okay the cat has already been let out of the bag so here is the link for the $9.99 arm based webpal |
| 20:39.33 | fishhead | <flyback-> Surpluscomputers.com |
| 20:41.03 | kergoth | fishhead: heh, they have them in stock again eh? |
| 20:41.29 | Russ | *cough* |
| 20:41.30 | fishhead | yeah going to get one right now |
| 20:41.37 | Russ | thats where *everyone* else got their webpal |
| 20:42.15 | fishhead | oh haha |
| 20:44.55 | sorphin | fishhead: you'll get to see some very nasty batteries too |
| 20:45.09 | CosmicPenguin | mmm.... battery acid |
| 20:45.56 | fishhead | ? |
| 20:46.04 | fishhead | sorphion I don't understand |
| 20:47.10 | CosmicPenguin | Sorphion - protector of the IRC and defender of the DDoS! |
| 20:49.21 | sorphin | fishhead: the batteries that comes w/ it are so old |
| 20:49.22 | sorphin | they leaked |
| 20:49.32 | sorphin | fishhead: and it's sorphin, not sorphion :P |
| 20:49.47 | sorphin | ~fishslap fishhead |
| 20:49.50 | | ACTION slaps fishhead up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 20:50.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: OSNews frowns on fedora apparently |
| 20:50.35 | sorphin | fishhead: leave file out of thise ;) |
| 20:50.37 | sorphin | -e |
| 20:51.29 | fishhead | ? |
| 20:52.06 | sorphin | fishhead: file's a rabid canuck |
| 20:52.15 | sorphin | fishhead: kinda like the channel pet :P |
| 20:52.45 | fishhead | ah |
| 20:54.07 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: The install engine sucks rocks |
| 20:54.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 20:58.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it has issues with dependancies |
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| 21:10.59 | CosmicPenguin | I think I have a borked partition |
| 21:14.20 | marklwrk | bork bork bork |
| 21:14.58 | CosmicPenguin | not good |
| 21:15.08 | CosmicPenguin | The RPMS keep getting an MD5 error - and I don't know why |
| 21:21.26 | sorphin | marklwrk: sveedeesh chef |
| 21:21.39 | sorphin | erm |
| 21:21.42 | sorphin | cheeef |
| 21:23.18 | sorphin | marklwrk: so why the hell are you using marklwrk and not signal11? :P |
| 21:26.20 | CosmicPenguin | If this doesn't work, I'm going to piss and moan like a little baby |
| 21:26.27 | CosmicPenguin | So stick around for that |
| 21:28.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's nothing new ;) |
| 21:28.29 | sorphin | guy sitting behind me is gonna grab RH 9 since fedora's so.. fscked up |
| 21:28.59 | CosmicPenguin | I'm gonna intall Gentoo if his doesn't work up - mainly just to piss off Russ |
| 21:29.50 | sjhill | so, i have a broad and dangerous question |
| 21:29.57 | sjhill | what is century software doing these days? |
| 21:30.38 | marklwrk | sorphin: this xirssi makes me use the same nick on all servers, from what i can tell |
| 21:30.42 | marklwrk | i miss irssi-gtk |
| 21:30.57 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: They're definately not doing any development, thats for damn sure |
| 21:31.12 | marklwrk | sjhill: i would expect that they are doing zero embedded stuff, at least |
| 21:31.12 | sjhill | that was my question |
| 21:32.50 | marklwrk | ~lart sorphin |
| 21:33.50 | sorphin | marklwrk: uh.. why are *you* larting me? i didn't drop it on you :P |
| 21:33.55 | marklwrk | just for fun |
| 21:35.15 | marklwrk | ~lart xirssi |
| 21:35.28 | marklwrk | l4me |
| 21:35.48 | CosmicPenguin | Son of a bitch! |
| 21:35.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: am not |
| 21:36.01 | sjhill | getting personal eh? |
| 21:36.09 | sjhill | iso's? |
| 21:36.15 | marklwrk | CosmicPenguin: i'm officially anti-red hat now, fwiw |
| 21:36.26 | CosmicPenguin | marklwrk: what did you choose? |
| 21:36.29 | marklwrk | since they are abandoning their end-user distro |
| 21:36.44 | sorphin | marklwrk: you're not a GENTOO lover are you? :P |
| 21:36.45 | marklwrk | i guess debian, though their installation hella sucks |
| 21:36.53 | marklwrk | never tried gentoo |
| 21:36.55 | kergoth | well, now that anaconda works on it.. |
| 21:37.19 | sjhill | debian rulz! |
| 21:37.54 | CosmicPenguin | Ah-ha-ha! |
| 21:38.04 | sjhill | it's your computer, i don't care if you screw it up :) |
| 21:38.07 | sorphin | kergoth: anaconda? |
| 21:38.20 | kergoth | sorphin: rh's installer |
| 21:38.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i don't care if you use gentoo, i knew you were sick anyways |
| 21:38.33 | sjhill | and it does bite |
| 21:39.04 | CosmicPenguin | I fail to understand the Gentoo hatred around here |
| 21:39.04 | sjhill | ~lart sorphin kergoth CosmicPenguin marklwrk |
| 21:39.16 | sjhill | oh cool, multiple lart'ing is possible |
| 21:39.20 | CosmicPenguin | Perhaps I will later on |
| 21:39.48 | marklwrk | what is wrong with gentoo |
| 21:40.24 | CosmicPenguin | Other than it buids with -O3, I haven't heard any horrible reports |
| 21:40.31 | sjhill | marklwrk: the last review i saw showed that even though gentoo custom compiles and optimizes everything for you, the performance numbers against other distros just weren't there |
| 21:42.04 | sorphin | sjhill: well duh |
| 21:42.17 | sorphin | ~bitchslap sjhill sjhill sjhill sjhill |
| 21:42.19 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill sjhill sjhill sjhill |
| 21:42.26 | sorphin | :P |
| 21:42.29 | sjhill | sorphin: duh what ya' twit? |
| 21:42.40 | sorphin | it doesn't care if the nick is real |
| 21:42.41 | CosmicPenguin | That and people just don't want to sit around recompiling their distro all day |
| 21:42.43 | CosmicPenguin | Whats up with that? |
| 21:42.45 | sorphin | it's just a text string |
| 21:42.54 | sjhill | ah |
| 21:43.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: better things to do |
| 21:43.17 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart Darl "I'm a dumbass" McBride |
| 21:43.29 | CosmicPenguin | How ironic |
| 21:44.03 | chouimat | what the moron opened his mouth again? |
| 21:44.49 | sorphin | chouimat: someone needs to stick something in his mouth |
| 21:44.50 | marklwrk | ~lart people who use lart |
| 21:45.15 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/performance.xml |
| 21:45.15 | sorphin | chouimat: i thikn the 800lb suit wearing gorilla will take care of that tho |
| 21:45.26 | chouimat | sorphin: like what? a gay that suffer from aids? |
| 21:46.08 | chouimat | sorphin: but the problem is gay and gorilla have standard |
| 21:46.29 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: Whats up Mr. Politically Correct? |
| 21:47.03 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: just took a walk in the snowstorm to get food |
| 21:52.48 | sorphin | chouimat: shoulda had file pull your snow sled :P |
| 21:53.01 | chouimat | sorphin: hehe |
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| 21:57.32 | sorphin | and there's davey |
| 21:58.18 | prpplague | ibot: seen andersee |
| 21:58.19 | | andersee <~andersee@codepoet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 5h 6m 2s ago, saying: 'dsmith: there was a problem I fixed last night with binutils that could cause that'. |
| 21:59.40 | prpplague | just had some smartass sysadmin tell me "sure there are virus's for linux, i write them all the time!" |
| 22:01.15 | sorphin | prpplague: what a moron |
| 22:01.24 | prpplague | yep |
| 22:01.44 | sorphin | prpplague: what's new davey jones? |
| 22:08.24 | prpplague | sorphin: nada, just been spending my days hacking bb |
| 22:08.38 | prpplague | sorphin: ever see "army of darkness" ? |
| 22:09.19 | kergoth | this is my BOOMSTICK |
| 22:09.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:09.24 | jnork | :) |
| 22:09.30 | jnork | It's a trick! Get an axe! |
| 22:09.34 | marklwrk | i need to see evil dead 2, it's been too long |
| 22:09.39 | marklwrk | did they ever release it on dvd |
| 22:09.47 | prpplague | kergoth: remember the chick before and after? |
| 22:10.00 | prpplague | kergoth: "baby you got ugly real quick" |
| 22:10.00 | jnork | marklwrk, oh yes |
| 22:10.41 | marklwrk | at the very least, i need to program tivo to record any show w/ bruce campbell |
| 22:10.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:10.48 | prpplague | kergoth: well thats my busybox dev tree before and after my hacks |
| 22:10.56 | levi | marklwrk: I think all the Evil Dead movies are on DVD now. |
| 22:11.16 | sorphin | prpplague: nope, ihaven't |
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| 22:11.53 | sorphin | marklwrk: ya know, i must say, i discovered why so many people/geeks like bruce campbell, he's a character |
| 22:13.29 | chouimat | sorphin: bruce campbell? as in Jack of All trade and so on? |
| 22:13.35 | sorphin | chouimat: yes |
| 22:13.51 | kergoth | i gotta pick up the evil dead movies on dvd |
| 22:14.29 | chouimat | kergoth: yup good idea ... I put that on my list of things todo in quebec city next week |
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| 22:22.31 | prpplague | :D |
| 22:22.43 | TomW | prpplague: phffft |
| 22:23.00 | *** mode/#elinux [-o prpplague] by prpplague |
| 22:24.11 | TomW | prpplague: I just spent $250 for a 1Gig DDR ram, it won't work in my machine. :( |
| 22:24.57 | TomW | prpplague: the idiots who wrote the motherboard manual called out for "buffered" ram and it turns out that the board only handles unbuffered. |
| 22:25.25 | prpplague | doh |
| 22:25.52 | TomW | I don't know why they did that, they wrote it in perfectly good jinglish |
| 22:26.03 | jnork | Doh! |
| 22:26.32 | chouimat | hi TomW prpplague |
| 22:26.39 | prpplague | chouimat: lo |
| 22:26.40 | TomW | I wonder if they use bablefish to translate their manuals from Mandarin into English? |
| 22:27.11 | jnork | Japlish has been around much longer than Babelfish. |
| 22:27.15 | chouimat | TomW: no they translate it in french and do a word for word translation to english |
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| 22:28.27 | TomW | chouimat: yeah, come to think about it, they do sort of talk english like you do... |
| 22:28.30 | TomW | ;) |
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| 22:28.53 | TomW | chouimat: yeah, come to think about it, they do sort of talk english like you do... |
| 22:28.55 | TomW | ;) |
| 22:29.06 | chouimat | bah |
| 22:29.10 | TomW | heh |
| 22:29.19 | sorphin | TomW: allo gramps |
| 22:29.29 | TomW | brb, my dinger is not working in xchat, looks like I'll have to restart X. |
| 22:30.41 | sorphin | umm |
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| 22:30.56 | TomW | sorphin: say something |
| 22:30.59 | TomW | sorphin: something nice |
| 22:31.02 | sorphin | TomW: we don't really wanna know about your "dinger" :P |
| 22:31.08 | TomW | no dinger. :( |
| 22:31.12 | TomW | wft |
| 22:31.15 | TomW | wtf |
| 22:31.26 | TomW | bah! |
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| 22:34.38 | sorphin | TomW: you need a woman to make your dinger work :P |
| 22:34.45 | Russ | its engrish... |
| 22:34.50 | TomW | crap |
| 22:35.07 | sorphin | TomW: it might need viagra too :P |
| 22:35.07 | Russ | there is no 'l' sound |
| 22:35.34 | TomW | seems these computers here are getting bit-rot or something like that. |
| 22:36.16 | sorphin | TomW: well, if they're as old as you, it's no wonder ;) |
| 22:36.30 | TomW | :p |
| 22:36.44 | sorphin | TomW: you know i'm just playin :P |
| 22:36.53 | TomW | nod |
| 22:37.19 | TomW | today I feel my age, darned knee is sore. |
| 22:37.34 | chouimat | TomW: try some glucosamine :) |
| 22:37.46 | sorphin | tow: ever messed w/ a LM1881? |
| 22:37.56 | sorphin | TomW: ^^^^ |
| 22:38.06 | TomW | lesse, gusty winds to about 50 mph, there is a rockslide in the water gap, and Interstate 80 is now closed |
| 22:38.18 | TomW | sorphin: what is an lm1881 |
| 22:38.19 | TomW | ? |
| 22:38.38 | sorphin | TomW: video sync seperator |
| 22:38.43 | TomW | naw |
| 22:38.55 | sorphin | they use it w/ the xbox (for linux) to get the sync for vga |
| 22:38.57 | chouimat | sorphin: sog-to-vga adapter? |
| 22:39.05 | TomW | only video stuff that I am truly into is X rated |
| 22:39.08 | sorphin | chouimat: or composite-to-vga |
| 22:39.24 | sorphin | TomW: heard of Devon or Cheyenne Silver? |
| 22:39.38 | TomW | Devon consulting, yeah |
| 22:39.45 | sorphin | TomW: uh.. no |
| 22:39.49 | TomW | no? |
| 22:39.54 | sorphin | TomW: pr0n stars |
| 22:40.00 | TomW | doh |
| 22:40.15 | chouimat | sorphin: hmmm saw a nice movie with them last night |
| 22:40.17 | TomW | I don't take down the names, I just watches 'em |
| 22:40.29 | sorphin | chouimat: i'm impressed frenchy that you know who they are ;) |
| 22:40.59 | chouimat | sorphin: they don't need to translate the movie for us to understand the plot :) |
| 22:41.11 | sorphin | chouimat: plot? most of the time there isn't one ;) |
| 22:41.18 | chouimat | sorphin: see |
| 22:41.54 | sorphin | good thing file isn't awake, talking about pr0n i'd prolly get kicked for contributing to the delinquency of a canuck minor |
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| 22:42.16 | chouimat | lol |
| 22:42.37 | TomW | sorphin: naw, they start them off at an earlier age. Kind of like the Europeans do with alcohol. |
| 22:42.56 | sorphin | TomW: well, if they'd make the age 18 here, prolly be less probs |
| 22:43.04 | sorphin | cuz they wouldn't all be out to do it illegally |
| 22:43.08 | TomW | sorphin: what else you gonna do when the mercury hits -50C ? |
| 22:43.31 | sorphin | TomW: i dunno about -50C |
| 22:43.36 | sorphin | TomW: only felt -40F |
| 22:43.55 | sorphin | so cold, it doesn't even feel "cold" anymore |
| 22:44.24 | chouimat | sorphin: wait at 18 you can have sex and vote but you're not mature enough to drink alcohol? |
| 22:44.38 | sorphin | chouimat: apparently not |
| 22:44.48 | chouimat | stupid |
| 22:44.49 | sorphin | chouimat: and actually, the age of concent varies here in the US |
| 22:45.04 | sorphin | from 13 to 15 to 18 |
| 22:45.07 | sorphin | etc |
| 22:45.14 | chouimat | sorphin: it's 14 here if you don't pay her |
| 22:45.30 | mallum | sorphin: my wife loves it in us when she gets ID'd for ciggarettes all the time :-) |
| 22:45.33 | sorphin | chouimat: know from experience? ;) |
| 22:45.42 | TomW | chouimat: you can drive a car, get laid, and vote, but you cannot drink. apparently they want you to get experience in all three before you try doing them with alcohol? |
| 22:45.44 | chouimat | sorphin: me?? |
| 22:45.48 | sorphin | mallum_: your wife? |
| 22:45.55 | mallum | sorphin: yeah I got married |
| 22:45.59 | sorphin | mallum_: someone actually sad enough to marry a git like you |
| 22:46.07 | sorphin | that's scary |
| 22:46.23 | sorphin | chouimat: yes you, you pedophile |
| 22:46.32 | mallum | sorphin: http://www.sidske.com/wedding/DCP00704.jpg |
| 22:46.32 | chouimat | sorphin: look she was 18 |
| 22:46.39 | sorphin | chouimat: uh huh |
| 22:47.15 | sorphin | mallum_: damn you, you would have a webserver on 212.* |
| 22:47.21 | sorphin | now i have to use a proxy |
| 22:47.28 | TomW | sorphin: looks like they are holding the ceromony in a storm drain. |
| 22:47.37 | mallum | sorphin: 212 ? |
| 22:47.58 | sorphin | mallum_: MCI blocks all addrs on 212.*.*.* |
| 22:48.05 | sorphin | cuz of some russian hacker |
| 22:48.10 | mallum | sorphin: wierd |
| 22:48.11 | sorphin | lame, i know, but i have no control |
| 22:48.19 | sorphin | TomW: well, he *is* british |
| 22:48.20 | chouimat | mallum_: sorphin http://ulyx.ath.cx/ex.jpg |
| 22:48.27 | mallum | sorphin: machine is in telehouse which is pretty major uk hub |
| 22:48.34 | sorphin | mallum_: doesn't matter |
| 22:48.39 | sorphin | mci is stupid |
| 22:48.59 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, prolly was concieved down there during the blitz or something. |
| 22:49.05 | mallum | chouimat: why 'ex'.jpg ? |
| 22:49.11 | chouimat | mallum_: ex-wife |
| 22:49.19 | mallum | chouimat: okey |
| 22:49.38 | chouimat | mallum: I keep it to remind me never again |
| 22:49.46 | mallum | hehe |
| 22:49.53 | sorphin | mallum_: yeah, she got sick of him wanting to listen to celine during sex :P |
| 22:50.05 | mallum | this is me and my mum :-) http://www.sidske.com/wedding/DCP00705.jpg |
| 22:50.11 | chouimat | sorphin: nah she called me David |
| 22:50.21 | TomW | everyone should get married, at least once, so they can join in telling the war stories about the divorce. |
| 22:50.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:50.36 | chouimat | http://ulyx.ath.cx/pussycloseup.jpg |
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| 22:50.48 | sorphin | andersee: davey was looking for you |
| 22:50.52 | sorphin | as was russ earlier i think |
| 22:50.56 | mallum | chouimat: is that 'work safe' |
| 22:51.00 | chouimat | yes |
| 22:51.00 | TomW | chouimat: that's disgusting! |
| 22:51.10 | sorphin | i don't wanna know |
| 22:51.13 | andersee | sorphin: k |
| 22:51.17 | andersee | sorphin: thx |
| 22:51.21 | sorphin | mallum_: hmm.. nice bit of fluff |
| 22:51.48 | sorphin | mallum_: both the mum and the bride :P |
| 22:51.48 | chouimat | TomW: hehe |
| 22:51.54 | mallum | sorphin: easy fella |
| 22:52.16 | sorphin | mallum_: har har |
| 22:52.28 | sorphin | mallum_: was just compliements, i have a woman :P |
| 22:52.49 | mallum | sorphin: ok, what does she think of tivo collection ? |
| 22:53.09 | TomW | mallum: no, I was mistaken, it wasn't a storm drain, it was a bunker? |
| 22:53.12 | sorphin | mallum_: she's fine w/ all m ystuff |
| 22:53.23 | chouimat | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/33953.html |
| 22:53.26 | sorphin | chouimat: she atleast looks ok |
| 22:53.44 | chouimat | sorphin: I found that on the net |
| 22:53.55 | mallum | TomW: http://www.fortamherst.com/ |
| 22:54.06 | sorphin | chouimat: eh? |
| 22:54.20 | sorphin | chouimat: i meant your ex |
| 22:54.38 | sorphin | well shit |
| 22:54.39 | chouimat | sorphin: ok I thought you where speaking of the other picture |
| 22:54.48 | sorphin | virusscan just found a virus in my FireBird cache |
| 22:54.56 | sorphin | on the fly as i was closing the browser |
| 22:55.05 | TomW | mallum: there seems to be an awful lot of photos of people's backsides in your wedding photos.... |
| 22:55.07 | sorphin | "Detected as Exploint-MIME.gen" |
| 22:55.16 | sorphin | -n |
| 22:55.27 | sorphin | TomW: he an arse man |
| 22:55.39 | TomW | mallum: ... and shoes |
| 22:55.40 | TomW | heh |
| 22:55.47 | sorphin | TomW: maybe a shoe fetish? |
| 22:56.01 | sorphin | TomW: you never know w/ those commoners |
| 22:56.03 | TomW | sorphin: podiphile |
| 22:56.27 | sorphin | indeed |
| 22:56.29 | sorphin | and on htat note |
| 22:56.32 | sorphin | i'm out.. cya |
| 22:56.32 | mallum | TomW: in the not-so-good folder ? |
| 22:56.34 | *** part/#elinux sorphin (sorphin@mewp.captainrock.com) |
| 22:56.53 | TomW | mallum: yeah, looks like your 6 year old sister had the camera for a while? |
| 22:57.35 | mallum | TomW: I gave my digital camera to a friend that I could trust to uplaod picts to server day after |
| 22:57.48 | TomW | nod |
| 22:57.50 | mallum | TomW: unfortunatly he took a load of crap photo's |
| 22:58.10 | TomW | naw, what they call in the trade as "color" |
| 22:58.59 | TomW | aha, steak |
| 22:59.57 | TomW | nice tits^H^H^H^Hdress |
| 23:00.23 | sjhill | later |
| 23:00.36 | TomW | wtf, where did sorphin run off to? |
| 23:02.36 | chouimat | TomW: gone buy some shoes? |
| 23:06.35 | chouimat | hmmmm I have the feeling that the evening will be long |
| 23:08.19 | prpplague | andersee: ho ho ho |
| 23:08.36 | prpplague | andersee: you seen "army of darkness" ? |
| 23:10.44 | prpplague | anyone still in need of ide->cf adapters? |
| 23:11.37 | chouimat | prpplague: wassup? |
| 23:12.03 | TomW | mallum: ok, I am done digging around in your photos. Actually, I'd say that your friend didn't do that badly. |
| 23:12.31 | prpplague | chouimat: nada |
| 23:12.36 | prpplague | chouimat: just ssdd |
| 23:13.06 | prpplague | chouimat: entertaining myself by creating down right evil POS hacks for bb |
| 23:13.06 | chouimat | prpplague: ok ... i think the evening will be boring no TV |
| 23:13.19 | chouimat | bb? |
| 23:13.28 | prpplague | busybox |
| 23:13.44 | mallum | TomW: oh believe me he did |
| 23:14.07 | andersee | prpplague: yep |
| 23:14.10 | TomW | mallum: well... there was a lot of whiskey at that shindig. |
| 23:14.26 | mallum | TomW: there was a *lot* of booze |
| 23:14.27 | chouimat | prpplague: ok me writing or trying to write a novel |
| 23:14.46 | mallum | TomW: we got the location really cheap, so we went to france and got loads of cheap booze |
| 23:14.52 | TomW | mallum: lol, yeah, I noticed that there was at least 4..5 bottles at every table. |
| 23:15.06 | prpplague | andersee: just telling kergoth that my busybox clean tree vs. busybox dev tree is like the before and after for the chick on that movie, lol |
| 23:15.20 | mallum | TomW: it worked out at like 15 cans of lager per person so it didn't all get drunk |
| 23:15.25 | chouimat | prpplague: huh? |
| 23:15.29 | TomW | mallum: lots of friendly looking (smashed) women at that party.. |
| 23:15.34 | prpplague | andersee: you'd cry if you saw what i've done to your sweet code, lol |
| 23:15.42 | mallum | TomW: yes everyone got very smashed |
| 23:15.59 | TomW | mallum: so, you married the girl, now what? |
| 23:16.18 | mallum | TomW: now we move house, make babies I guess |
| 23:16.23 | TomW | mallum: you didn't move in with her as well, did you? |
| 23:16.41 | chouimat | TomW: he's waiting 5 to 7 years justto get a huge fight to know who keep the gold fish :) |
| 23:16.48 | mallum | TomW: we'd been living togeather for approx 2 years before marridge |
| 23:16.57 | TomW | mallum: yup, time to make babies, pay taxes, vote Republican (conservative). |
| 23:17.06 | mallum | hehe |
| 23:18.20 | TomW | nobody who has children, or at least in their right mind, will vote for higer taxes. |
| 23:18.31 | TomW | s/higer/higher/ |
| 23:19.06 | TomW | ok, time to do the laundry. |
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| 23:23.13 | prpplague | interesting: product documentation: english 206k italian 696k french 101k |
| 23:24.09 | prpplague | i wonder if that means they need to use alot more words to explain to the italians |
| 23:24.43 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe the only documentation that counts is in italian |
| 23:24.45 | prpplague | or that they can't use big words for the french |
| 23:26.09 | prpplague | later folks |
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