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13:01.02 | dsmith | Greetings |
13:01.22 | dsmith | Anyone have any reccomendations for embedded lcd controllers? |
13:01.39 | dsmith | Or know of a site that has comparisons? |
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13:42.42 | prpplague | morning guys |
13:42.49 | prpplague | Morn: and gal |
13:43.01 | prpplague | ibot: seen tomw |
13:43.02 | | tomw <~Tom@24.229.144.86> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 2d 4h 17m 53s ago, saying: 'morning all'. |
13:45.46 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
13:45.54 | CosmicPenguin | EmbedGded Linux? |
13:58.35 | dsmith | prpplague, CosmicPenguin: G' morning |
13:59.08 | dsmith | prpplague, CosmicPenguin: You guys have any reccomendations on embedded lcd controllers? |
14:01.38 | prpplague | dsmith: need a little more info |
14:07.16 | prpplague | kergoth: hey, where are the schematics located for the innovator kit? |
14:07.28 | prpplague | kergoth: the cd i have doesn't appear to have them |
14:07.56 | dsmith | prpplague: What lcd chipsets have good linux driver support, will be around for a while, and are cheap. ;^) |
14:09.12 | file[wifi] | hello all |
14:09.24 | dsmith | prpplague: We are using the arm mips Au1100, which has an on-chip lcd controller, but there is some concern of bandwith starvation. |
14:13.04 | prpplague | dsmith: type of lcd? |
14:14.06 | dsmith | prpplague: Mmm. Not really decided yet. Probably color 1/4 vga. |
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14:20.55 | prpplague | dsmith: not real familiar with the au1100, but you might look on openhardware.org to see what kind of controlers they've used |
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14:23.22 | sieve_work | good morning all |
14:24.23 | CosmicPenguin | mornin' |
14:24.44 | dsmith | prpplague: Thanks. Hmm. Looks like that should be openhardware.net |
14:25.05 | CosmicPenguin | Thats right |
14:25.13 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: lart prpplague |
14:25.45 | CosmicPenguin | Thats ok though - I made the same mistake just the other day |
14:28.32 | Lethal | dsmith, what's your problem with using the au1100 lcd? |
14:42.38 | dsmith | Lethal: No sure we have a problem, yet. Just looking into options. |
14:44.10 | dsmith | I guess I'm looking for "Whatever you do, don't use the xyz controller, it has <some really bad brokenness>" |
14:44.36 | Lethal | oh |
14:44.38 | Lethal | in that case |
14:44.45 | Lethal | don't ever use any ITE LCD controller |
14:44.46 | Lethal | ever |
14:44.50 | Lethal | even if someone pays you |
14:44.53 | Lethal | just run away |
14:44.53 | dsmith | Or "The foo_bar controller is great, the factory really supports Linux" or somthing. |
14:45.41 | CosmicPenguin | None of them really support Linux - so don't worry about that part |
14:46.10 | Lethal | the epson lcd controllers are quite decent, and they're pretty good when it comes to linux support. |
14:46.12 | Lethal | mediaq also has linux support, though not that great |
14:47.38 | Lethal | you're probably better off going with whatever is integrated though, unless you need better graphics performance or whatever else. plus those things tend to be supported more by the vendor in the first place. |
14:47.54 | Lethal | if I had to go with a third party controller though, I'd go with the epson stuff. |
14:48.23 | prpplague | dsmith: epson would be my recomendation as well |
14:50.54 | dsmith | Thanks. |
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14:54.03 | dsmith | The internal lcd works. I've got Debian testing up and running (nfsroot) on a devel board from amd. X is use the frame buffer nicely. But when you drag a window around the screen shifts and jumps. Now this isn't a fair test. 800x600 instead of 1/4 vga, X and a windowmanager and averything. |
14:55.09 | dsmith | The internal controller might work just fine in our application. |
14:55.32 | dsmith | Cheaper too. |
14:56.14 | Lethal | integrated lcd controllers quite often tend to be a bit on the sluggish side. you can probably hack the fb driver a bit for some better performance, particularly if you look at dma or some such thing, but otherwise you probably won't get much more out of it. |
14:56.45 | CosmicPenguin | The screen shifting and jumping doesn't sound like a speed issue to me |
14:56.49 | Lethal | with the exception of the ite it8181e/f which is by far the slowest piece of crap i've ever seen |
14:56.49 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds more like an electrical issue |
14:57.07 | Lethal | I wouldn't use x for fb testing in the first place |
14:57.55 | dsmith | CosmicPenguin: It's directly related to cpu usage, and network usage. |
14:58.14 | CosmicPenguin | dsmith: like I said |
14:58.15 | dsmith | Lethal: Yeah, I just wanted to see if it work work. |
14:58.40 | Lethal | thats believable. I managed to repeatedly deadlock an au1500 by ping flooding it with large packets. |
14:58.46 | Lethal | even in the loader |
14:59.18 | Lethal | I think they still have some issues to resolve :P |
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15:36.31 | CosmicPenguin | http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed |
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15:39.53 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
15:40.04 | prpplague | ibot: jeeze |
15:40.05 | | prpplague: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
15:40.10 | prpplague | lol |
15:40.16 | prpplague | sorphin: hey |
15:40.34 | prpplague | sorphin: you use growisofs for creating dvd's ? |
15:41.02 | sorphin | prpplague: "you're in Utah after all" ;) |
15:41.41 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
15:42.16 | sorphin | prpplague: and nope, all dvd stuff is done under doze now.. i gave up on using linux for it after it coastered twice because of kernel driver flakeyness (and i don't feel like wasting my spool of blanks) |
15:42.24 | sorphin | ~quote svvs |
15:42.32 | sorphin | bah |
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15:43.05 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, ok |
15:43.29 | prpplague | sorphin: just got a request to set up or software up to backup to dvd's |
15:43.53 | sorphin | ah |
15:44.08 | sorphin | only used em for xbox games or video |
15:44.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I on the other hand, have the same device as sorphin yet have experienced 0 problems |
15:44.21 | sorphin | and the video requires authoring anyways |
15:44.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yes and no |
15:45.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yes you have a pioneer, you also have a 105, but you're also not authoring, and you don't work w/ usb drives for storage to burn to the dvd drive in the box the drives are hooked to |
15:45.54 | sorphin | granted, since sjhill's patch the usb is quite a bit more stable |
15:46.02 | sorphin | it's easier to do everything in one big swoop |
15:46.08 | sorphin | and since i can't author in linux |
15:46.21 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I was authoring, and yes I wasn't using USB drives, but that doesn't sound like DVD problems, now does it? |
15:46.29 | sorphin | i can't do the big swoop, cuz i don't feel like having to reboot back and forth |
15:47.07 | sorphin | collord: oh, so you authored w/ menus then? and created all the nav packets ? |
15:47.10 | sorphin | grr |
15:47.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats right |
15:47.33 | sorphin | musta wrote something yourself, because there's no authoring sw that i know of under linux |
15:47.36 | sorphin | :P |
15:48.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ok world - sorphin couldn't use a DVD under Linux, so it must not work |
15:49.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i said it didn't work for *me* |
15:51.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so you make data dvd's ? |
15:52.10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I made my wedding diary video under Linux |
15:52.13 | sorphin | prpplague: prolly on about his wedding dvd |
15:52.14 | sorphin | yup |
15:52.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: done any other dvd stuff? |
15:52.31 | sorphin | prolly not :P |
15:52.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you mean like pirating movies? |
15:52.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you using growisofs? |
15:52.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: fyi, an /ignore means little to me |
15:52.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and no |
15:52.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: and yes |
15:52.58 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm pretty sure you wern't making the movies |
15:53.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i mean say converting vhs over, archiving tv :P |
15:53.26 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: oh, so you were breaking copyright by copying TV shows then? |
15:53.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: noble work |
15:53.33 | sorphin | uh |
15:53.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: how is that different than recording it w/ your VCR? |
15:53.48 | sorphin | or your tivo |
15:53.49 | sorphin | hmm? |
15:54.05 | sorphin | stuff that you can't go buy :P |
15:54.10 | sorphin | anyways |
15:54.30 | sorphin | go /ignore me now, i don't care to argue w/ you, i have better things to do |
15:55.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no, I just used the mkisofs for DVD |
15:55.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, isn't mkisofs limited to 800mb? |
15:56.01 | sorphin | prpplague: nope |
15:56.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I was using one hacked for DVD - |
15:56.20 | sorphin | prpplague: the dvd stuff i've done under linux, i used mkisofs |
15:56.54 | sorphin | just tick on -udf or -dvd-video depending on what youre' making the iso for |
15:57.12 | sorphin | the newer/newest mkisofs has that included |
15:57.24 | prpplague | sorphin: just need data |
15:57.25 | CosmicPenguin | Thats right - it all got merged |
15:57.31 | prpplague | so i guess i need to use -udf? |
15:58.03 | sorphin | prpplague: yes |
15:58.09 | prpplague | sorphin: ok thanks |
15:58.31 | sorphin | prpplague: just remember it's only 4.37G not 4.7G ;) |
15:59.06 | sorphin | prpplague: and it's not possible to overburn a dvd |
15:59.47 | prpplague | sorphin: thanks, did doing EOW and EOM backups |
16:01.18 | sorphin | nod |
16:07.49 | prpplague | sorphin: interesting, can't seem to find a mkisofs that has a -udf flag |
16:09.24 | sorphin | prpplague: using cdrtools 2.x ? |
16:09.56 | prpplague | sorphin: ya |
16:10.03 | sorphin | hmm |
16:10.30 | sorphin | does it have -dvd-video ? |
16:10.56 | prpplague | sorphin: doesn't show it under usage |
16:11.23 | sorphin | prpplague: and -version says |
16:12.02 | prpplague | sorphin: 2.0.3 |
16:12.27 | prpplague | sorphin: i'll clean and rebuild, redhat systems do screwwy things sometimes |
16:12.31 | sorphin | prpplague: build this yourself or a package? :P |
16:12.35 | sorphin | ah |
16:12.37 | sorphin | RH |
16:12.53 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
16:13.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: if it doesn't, grab the dvrtools package |
16:13.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hadn't heard of that one, he fork ? |
16:14.18 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
16:15.11 | prpplague | fresh build seem to do the trick |
16:15.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats what I used |
16:15.17 | prpplague | chouimat: hey |
16:15.30 | sorphin | prpplague: good deal |
16:15.38 | chouimat | prpplague: I will leave soon for diner |
16:15.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, its just a fork of cdrtools for DVD |
16:16.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: now if only Jorg would pull his head out about cdrecord-ProDVD :P |
16:16.32 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: well, eventually somebody else will trump him with a truely free version |
16:16.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: DVD-Rs just need to drop in price a little bit so they become more common |
16:17.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nod, i'd looked a ways back at the migration someone did of cdrecord for dvd (dvdrecord), but it wouldn't work for me, only prodvd would |
16:17.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah, and + needs to go away |
16:19.23 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: agreed |
16:19.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you ever manage to encode your VHS under Linux? |
16:21.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, my wintv card won't do 720x480, so that's out, and atm, my series 2 tivo (rev 0) won't talk to a vcr (tho if i can dig up a Time Base Corrector, it may), so choices are, a wintv-dvr card (and using the util out there to make the vidoe usable) or sell off the S2 and get a newer one |
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16:29.31 | sorphin | ade|desk: afterevening tosspot |
16:32.11 | ade|desk | sorphin: bog off tart ! |
16:32.14 | ade|desk | ;) |
16:34.34 | prpplague | lol |
16:35.05 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: dict bog |
16:35.18 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: tart |
16:35.19 | | CosmicPenguin: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
16:35.23 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: dict tart |
16:35.28 | sorphin | ade|desk: no tart here, what do you mistake me for, a commoner? |
16:35.54 | CosmicPenguin | So, apparently, ade|desk just offered to drag down sorphin's small open pie with a fruit filling... :) |
16:36.00 | CosmicPenguin | Just making fun |
16:36.02 | sorphin | rotfl |
16:36.14 | prpplague | HA |
16:36.33 | sorphin | prpplague: you married kergoth off yet to an east tx woman? |
16:37.15 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, acutally, saw a rather nice looking chick on hotornot whilst moderating, who happened to be from East TX, must be a transplant ;) |
16:37.21 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, got some grain feed girls ready for him though |
16:37.27 | CosmicPenguin | or a liar |
16:37.47 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, must be a transplant |
16:38.01 | sorphin | prpplague: not gonna ask |
16:38.16 | prpplague | sorphin: "grain feed" ? lol |
16:38.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: if she's a liar, she prolly should go work for SCO |
16:38.45 | sorphin | prpplague: round here it's cornbread fed ;) |
16:38.58 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: SCO doesn't have the monpoly on lying, it just seems that way |
16:39.33 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: they seem to be the current major supplier |
16:40.04 | sorphin | while ESR's letter was a little bit 5 year old, i agree w/ him |
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16:42.53 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, and I hate to gress with RMS or ESR |
16:42.59 | CosmicPenguin | s/gress/agree/ |
16:43.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: better ESR than RMS, but maybe it's just me |
16:43.33 | sorphin | RMS needs to shower, shave once in a while, and get out more :P the 70s are over |
16:43.52 | CosmicPenguin | Every cause needs an over the top idiot, and we've got two |
16:44.07 | CosmicPenguin | That RMS comment about Utah really showed how childish he is |
16:44.31 | CosmicPenguin | Sorry, ESR |
16:44.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
16:44.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you only say that because you're living there |
16:44.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it sure pissed off the local community |
16:45.21 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, but he had so many good points, did he really need to say, oh, yeah, and plus you live in Utah? |
16:46.44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: he's just keeping it on a level Darl (gawd, that's sad) can comprehend, aka a 5 year olds level |
16:47.36 | sorphin | ade|desk: indeed ;) |
16:47.49 | sorphin | ade|desk: hows tricks? |
16:47.57 | ade|desk | sorphin: sorry was away looking at my bros new car |
16:48.05 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I don't recall seeing MIT on the list of the original darpanet nodes |
16:48.07 | ade|desk | sorphin: fine ta, you ? |
16:48.24 | sorphin | ade|desk: ssdd mostly |
16:48.30 | sorphin | ade|desk: and the bint? |
16:48.45 | ade|desk | sorphin: ssssssdddddd ??? |
16:48.50 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: is that an unrelated statement? |
16:48.56 | sorphin | ade|desk: same sh... diff day |
16:48.59 | ade|desk | sorphin: fine, but at guide camp :( |
16:49.08 | sorphin | ade|desk: ah |
16:49.39 | ade|desk | sorphin: miss her, havent seen her for ~month |
16:49.44 | sorphin | ade|desk: doh |
16:49.50 | sorphin | ade|desk: can relate |
16:49.51 | ade|desk | sorphin: hows your life of love ? |
16:49.59 | sorphin | ade|desk: rough |
16:50.07 | ade|desk | oh ? |
16:50.52 | ade|desk | why is the windows version of moz-firebird smaller than the debian deb of it :/ |
16:50.53 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: the U of U was a darpanet pioneer |
16:51.00 | ade|desk | 6.4mb vs 10 |
16:51.05 | sorphin | ade|desk: yeah, things are just odd atm |
16:51.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nod |
16:53.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: if we wanna go that route, seen more great minds come from MIT tho than U of U (note: i said seen, doesn't mean none have came from U of U, just don't know of any personally) |
16:57.09 | sorphin | heh |
16:57.16 | sorphin | "what to expect from Qt 4.0" |
16:57.23 | ade|desk | crap |
16:57.37 | sorphin | and further down it mentions faster startup times and lighter mem usage |
16:57.39 | sorphin | i don't belive it |
16:57.40 | ade|desk | more C++ tat with more to follow |
16:57.57 | sorphin | ade|desk: indeed |
16:58.47 | sorphin | ade|desk: i feel sorry for you lot over there if this is actually gonna happen: "uk to put monitors in every car", so they can catch you doing things you shouldn't and fine you for it |
16:59.01 | sorphin | "groping while driving, that's 20 quid" |
16:59.06 | ade|desk | sorphin: yeah, it wont happen |
16:59.17 | ade|desk | sorphin: to new cars it might |
16:59.36 | ade|desk | sorphin: sheeeet how could they tell :/ |
16:59.50 | sorphin | ade|desk: my new car shall be born over there very shortly |
16:59.58 | ade|desk | sorphin: which is ? |
17:00.05 | sorphin | ade|desk: mini cooper S |
17:00.35 | ade|desk | ah the german pile of crap |
17:00.40 | sorphin | ade|desk: hey now |
17:00.41 | ade|desk | hm |
17:01.00 | sorphin | ade|desk: and what do you drive? a vauxhall? :P |
17:01.01 | ade|desk | ok it was a uk designer |
17:01.08 | ade|desk | na , skoda |
17:01.23 | ade|desk | so again german tat |
17:01.41 | sorphin | ade|desk: my family line is german, so behave ;) |
17:02.08 | sorphin | ade|desk: it's a bimmer w/ a british accent :P |
17:02.19 | ade|desk | sorphin: thats ok , i'll speak slower for you then |
17:02.42 | sorphin | ade|desk: have you done your soverance for the queen yet today? |
17:02.55 | ade|desk | oh indeed |
17:03.05 | ade|desk | as always |
17:03.21 | ade|desk | pip pip long live the queen, and all that |
17:04.34 | sorphin | ade|desk: i know you're inflicted w/ being at exeter, but where are you normally at? |
17:04.45 | ade|desk | sorphin: finished at exeter |
17:04.48 | sorphin | ah |
17:04.54 | ade|desk | sorphin: now living in norfolk |
17:05.03 | sorphin | nod |
17:05.06 | ade|desk | working at .... tesco |
17:05.11 | sorphin | ROTFL |
17:05.18 | ade|desk | sh |
17:05.21 | sorphin | ade|desk: man you're a sad git |
17:05.45 | ade|desk | sorphin: i need the money to pay for the masters at home (Open University) |
17:05.48 | sorphin | ade|desk: people go to tesco, they don't WORTK there :P |
17:05.54 | sorphin | -T |
17:06.04 | ade|desk | sorphin: hopefully getting a better job soon |
17:06.16 | ade|desk | sorphin: got an interview tomorrow |
17:06.18 | sorphin | ade|desk: oh? upgrading to toilet scrubber then? |
17:06.27 | ade|desk | sorphin: nearly : MIS tech |
17:06.38 | sorphin | ade|desk: same difference |
17:07.03 | sorphin | ade|desk: hopefully they'll atleast supply the toothbrush |
17:07.17 | ade|desk | sorphin: to 'further my knowledge of MS network software' so the ad says |
17:07.27 | sorphin | M$ has network sw? |
17:07.34 | ade|desk | sorphin: i get to support MS stuff :) |
17:07.38 | sorphin | i just htought that made a lot of dodgy kit |
17:07.46 | ade|desk | sorphin: windows 2003 so they say |
17:07.51 | sorphin | ade|desk: as i said |
17:07.56 | sorphin | dodgy kit ;) |
17:09.11 | ade|desk | sorphin: we if i get the job.. perhaps i'll sneek a linux box in setup an indentical network up on it, switch it over night then admin that, then tell them after 3 months why the network hasnt fallen over |
17:09.13 | sorphin | ade|desk: tho i suppose it could be worse, you could become a tesco manager ;) |
17:09.34 | sorphin | ade|desk: indeed |
17:09.53 | ade|desk | sorphin: tesco manager aint a bad job, shit load of pay |
17:10.10 | sorphin | ade|desk: yeah, they pay you in sh... :P |
17:10.21 | ade|desk | sorphin: lol |
17:10.42 | ade|desk | 40G a year plus 30% off food |
17:10.59 | ade|desk | so cheaper to live and you get the money :) |
17:11.21 | ade|desk | the bumb above london , east coast |
17:11.47 | sorphin | ah, i see it |
17:11.58 | sorphin | the bit NE of the Cambridge impersonator |
17:13.35 | ade|desk | lol yeah, but Cambridge aint anymore, so the sign says ... its ambridge , so thats where the archers radio series place is really |
17:13.47 | ade|desk | see bbc radio4 for details |
17:21.34 | sorphin | ade|desk: eh? someone deC'd the sign? |
17:22.17 | ade|desk | sorphin: yup |
17:24.45 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: sorry, I was distracted |
17:25.09 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: anyway, I know what you're saying about MIT, I'm just saying that Utah isn't as barren in terms of OOS as people like to think it is |
17:29.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: tis just well hidden i guess |
17:29.53 | sorphin | ade|desk: prolly some camshire gits |
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17:32.34 | ade|desk | sorphin: unlikely more like suffolk folk |
17:34.18 | sorphin | ade|desk: don't know/know anything about that lot |
17:34.51 | ade|desk | backward like devon but closer to the big smoke |
17:38.35 | sorphin | ade|desk: ah, what about devonshite^H^Hre? *g* |
17:39.14 | ade|desk | simple folk for a simple county |
17:39.22 | sorphin | nod |
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18:21.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the standard cdrecord doesn't support dvd burning? |
18:22.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its weird |
18:23.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: sorphin knows more about it than I do |
18:23.59 | sorphin | prpplague: nope |
18:24.11 | sorphin | prpplague: Jorg has decided to be closed source w/ dvd burning |
18:24.23 | sorphin | you can use it for free non commercially/educationally |
18:24.23 | prpplague | sorphin: ohh, so you have to purchase it? |
18:24.37 | prpplague | sorphin: or is the binary usage for free? |
18:26.15 | sorphin | prpplague: free for non-com/educational use |
18:26.21 | sorphin | commercial pays, as always |
18:26.26 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh |
18:26.36 | prpplague | sorphin: guess i need to look into dvdrecord then |
18:27.51 | sorphin | prpplague: dvdrecord is flakey from what i've seen, it's a fork of cdrecord, that hasn't really went far |
18:27.56 | sorphin | it doesn't even have a media table |
18:28.11 | sorphin | prpplague: aka, it won't even recognize my dvd media |
18:28.22 | prpplague | sorphin: hmmm |
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18:30.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: same report here |
18:30.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: darn |
18:30.47 | sorphin | prpplague: you just d/l tho |
18:30.59 | sorphin | there's no form you have to fill out to tell if you're being commercial or not |
18:31.35 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, you got 3 or 4 thousand servers running it someone might notice |
18:32.01 | sorphin | prpplague: details ;) |
18:32.12 | sorphin | prpplague: if you got that much crap |
18:32.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: depending on how much he wants, it might be cheaper just to pay someone to get dvdrecord working |
18:32.17 | sorphin | prpplague: use big tape :P |
18:32.36 | CosmicPenguin | Pull the rug right out from underneath Jorg |
18:33.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: might have to, they want dvd juke box's as well as other dvd stuff |
18:33.19 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i wish someone would beat him w/ it |
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18:34.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i expect only about 20% of customers will want dvd burners, but those are the bigger customers who'd be willing to pay |
18:34.51 | CosmicPenguin | And since they want data only, you don't need to be as particular about the writing as a video DVD might need to be |
18:35.42 | sorphin | yeah |
18:35.56 | sorphin | only need to be able to write, don't need so much to care about spec |
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18:36.22 | CosmicPenguin | Or making sure that certain files are in certain sectors and the other crap that DVD players care about |
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18:36.33 | sorphin | TimRiker: re timmy |
18:36.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: right, hence the spec comment |
18:37.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: tho, the only file that is critical about location is video_ts.ifo |
18:37.17 | sorphin | must be the 1st file, the rest don't matter |
18:38.14 | collord | sorphin we're looking at sponsoring dvdrecord too |
18:38.30 | ade|home | sorphin: i thick i missed the start off this, what are you on about wrt dvd ? |
18:38.34 | collord | we should coordinante |
18:38.37 | sorphin | collord: well, either dvdrecord needs to work |
18:38.46 | sorphin | or someone needs to bitchslap Jorg w/ a cluebat |
18:39.16 | sorphin | ade|home: prpplague needs to data write dvds |
18:39.27 | collord | if people want to be like that... |
18:39.32 | sorphin | ade|home: currently w/ linux, the only working dvd writing is via cdrecord-ProDVD |
18:39.33 | collord | treat it as damage and route around it |
18:40.00 | sorphin | ade|home: which is a closed source cdrecord w/ dvd specific stuff only in it |
18:40.06 | sorphin | nod |
18:40.07 | ade|home | ah |
18:40.12 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sure that somebody out there is only a few thousand dollars worth of motivation away from getting a working OS solution |
18:41.31 | sorphin | i had access to some decent video dvd info, but it expired yesterday :P |
18:41.41 | sorphin | my access that is |
18:42.18 | chouimat|n7y | hi sorphin |
18:42.32 | sorphin | chouimat|n7y: lo |
18:42.47 | kergoth | hey |
18:42.53 | chouimat|n7y | hi kergoth |
18:43.16 | chouimat|n7y | i'm still in nove hrady ... be back home new week |
18:44.34 | chouimat|n7y | sorphin: kde conference in Czech Republic |
18:44.40 | sorphin | ah |
18:44.59 | sorphin | chouimat|n7y: met any cute czech girls? ;) |
18:45.00 | ade|home | sorphin: seen http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/-RW/ |
18:45.12 | prpplague | ade|home: yea |
18:45.19 | sorphin | ade|home: if that's what i thikn it is, yeah, but last i looked, it was pretty rough |
18:45.21 | chouimat|n7y | sorphin: got about 4 rolls of photo ... 3 lefts |
18:46.55 | chouimat|n7y | sorphin: someone have a very nice photo of czech girls maybe it's online I will ask him a little later before we go to the pub ... 500ml of beer is 50 cents (usd/cad/euro) we don't care |
18:47.38 | ade|home | ~change 0.5 usd to gbp |
18:48.04 | ade|home | tusk tusk you can get it for 17p normally |
18:48.12 | ade|home | ~change 0.17 gbp to usd |
18:49.20 | sorphin | ade|home: as usual, we get screwed coming over there, you make out well coming here :P |
18:49.52 | ade|home | sorphin: to czech? |
18:51.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which dvdr do you have? |
18:53.16 | collord | also this goes for anyone else working on dvd recording too... if you need hardware msg me |
18:54.29 | kergoth | hrm |
18:55.55 | sorphin | ade|home: no, england |
18:56.05 | sorphin | prpplague: he has the Pioneer DVR-105 |
18:56.07 | sorphin | I have the 104 |
18:56.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: actually its an OEM, but its the same hardware |
18:56.23 | ade|home | whats the 106 like ? |
18:59.46 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey, is the sd/mmc driver for the innovator a binary module like on the z? |
19:00.18 | CosmicPenguin | ade|home: when you said that, i was envisioning a spinal tap like "it goes to 11" bit |
19:00.27 | ade|home | lol |
19:00.39 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the 106 like? Its better than the 105. Why? Because its a 106. |
19:00.42 | ade|home | but why not make 10 louder ? |
19:01.11 | sorphin | ade|home: because 11's louder |
19:01.24 | ade|home | sorphin: but but but that make no sense |
19:01.40 | sorphin | ade|home: neither does anything that comes out of britain ;) |
19:01.56 | ade|home | world domination |
19:02.19 | sorphin | ade|home: one cuppa at a time? |
19:02.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just got a sony dru-510a |
19:02.53 | ade|home | US people came from UK +other countries so , yeah nothing going from UK makes sense |
19:03.38 | ade|home | one day when i have money that needs to disappear i'll get a 106 |
19:03.46 | ade|home | or the sony |
19:04.26 | ade|home | i think my hifi needs a dvd writer :) |
19:04.46 | ade|home | its P4 amuses visiters |
19:06.08 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going to buy that HDTV card next |
19:06.52 | ade|home | if it was a mpeg [d]encoder i would get one too |
19:09.37 | CosmicPenguin | I've got a 2 Ghz plus machine - it can decode MPEG for me |
19:09.40 | CosmicPenguin | Its the antenna that I want |
19:10.01 | CosmicPenguin | of course, now that the epia hw decoding is working, that would be a fun STB |
19:10.26 | CosmicPenguin | Cept the epia that I have only has 1 PCI slot, and the card wouldn't fit in this mini case |
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19:38.37 | kergoth | hrm. |
19:39.24 | sorphin | kergoth: wtf are you hrm'ing about ex-digiboy? |
19:41.03 | kergoth | cant seem to get this shit working, and theres a deadline approaching. |
19:43.13 | sorphin | kergoth: you should be used to that from digi :P |
19:43.43 | kergoth | sorphin: that doesnt make it any more pleasant. heh. |
19:47.07 | ricmm | hey people :) |
19:48.38 | kergoth | hey ricmm |
19:48.43 | kergoth | hows your ucb crap coming along? |
19:49.11 | ricmm | well like yesterday |
19:49.25 | ricmm | the ucb driver is ok, but the irq seems like masked |
19:49.38 | ricmm | it only gets seen when something else interrupts |
19:49.46 | ricmm | like uart or the buttons hehe |
19:51.47 | ricmm | its a funny thing, but now it is pissing me off |
19:53.02 | ricmm | i really dont get why it happens |
20:04.54 | sorphin | ricmm: not enough beer maybe? |
20:06.12 | sorphin | ricmm: that's usually prpplague's problem |
20:07.07 | kergoth | hmm. i should hit the liquor store today |
20:11.17 | ricmm | perhaps |
20:12.13 | ricmm | hehe |
20:16.14 | prpplague | ricmm: what arch? |
20:19.20 | ricmm | mips little endian |
20:19.33 | ricmm | a tx3912 processor, mips r3k based |
20:19.43 | prpplague | ricmm: fun |
20:20.09 | ricmm | yeah well |
20:20.15 | ricmm | you read the problem xD |
20:20.21 | kergoth | hrm |
20:21.05 | kergoth | ah there we go. /me makes progress |
20:21.46 | ricmm | what are you working on? |
20:24.42 | kergoth | touchscreen code at the moment |
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20:26.49 | kergoth | hey morn |
20:27.55 | MornWork | hey |
20:29.34 | ricmm | oh nice, wich ts? |
20:30.07 | kergoth | a TI touchscreen controller. ads7846. the one used on the innovator boards iirc. |
20:34.20 | ricmm | cool |
20:34.42 | ricmm | you know, maybe today i get a handheld pc |
20:34.59 | ricmm | and it has nice support by now, probably ill reach an x-system with it hehe |
20:35.36 | sorphin | Morn: wow, she lives |
20:50.01 | prpplague | anyone got experience with j2me? |
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21:10.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I wouldn't admit it if I did |
21:11.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is that kinda like admiting you've been gang raped? |
21:22.53 | George- | heya prpplague |
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21:36.35 | CosmicPenguin | Guess who I am: |
21:36.44 | ricmm | a CosmicPenguin |
21:36.55 | sjhill | ummm, Napoleon? |
21:37.03 | CosmicPenguin | "Come on guys, I know we said really mean things about you, but quit bringing down our website... whine... whine" |
21:37.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: uh? mcbride? |
21:38.05 | CosmicPenguin | Give that man a cigar |
21:38.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can i have a beer instead? |
21:38.25 | CosmicPenguin | No - this is Utah |
21:38.31 | sjhill | lol |
21:39.29 | CosmicPenguin | my top five list of most hated things: |
21:39.31 | CosmicPenguin | 1) configure |
21:39.34 | CosmicPenguin | 2) libtool |
21:39.36 | CosmicPenguin | 3) sco |
21:39.41 | CosmicPenguin | 4) microsoft |
21:39.42 | CosmicPenguin | 5) configure |
21:39.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no autoconf? |
21:40.02 | kergoth | thats what he meant by 1) i'd say |
21:40.13 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh |
21:40.21 | CosmicPenguin | autoconf is more the mother of evil - it doesn't actually do anything evil, but it produces evil stuff |
21:40.30 | CosmicPenguin | Like the producers of Gigli, for example |
21:40.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
21:41.38 | CosmicPenguin | Argh! |
21:42.01 | CosmicPenguin | aclocal.m4:601: error: Autoconf version 2.54 or higher is required |
21:42.02 | signal11_ | i hope gigli doesn't negatively impact "Jersey Girl" |
21:42.22 | signal11_ | kevin smith must be hella-pissed |
21:43.03 | CosmicPenguin | Jersey Girl lost about 10 points on the Hollywood Stock Exchange after Gigli came out |
21:43.44 | CosmicPenguin | redhat |
21:43.57 | CosmicPenguin | OOps - sorry |
21:46.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: starting to feel like someone trying to get the right paperwork filed to get your drivers license renewed at the DPS office? |
21:47.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not only that, it just reminds me that eventually, I'm going to be forced to upgrade to RH 9 |
21:49.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, then it gets really fun |
21:49.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i couldn't even build OE on rhat9 |
21:49.29 | CosmicPenguin | Not - I've been supporting a client on RH 9 all week - what a pain in the ass |
21:49.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: reloaded back with rhat7.3 |
21:51.28 | prpplague | later folks |
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23:09.57 | sorphin | hmm, gtk+ tty port |
23:10.00 | sorphin | that i could live w/ |
23:11.25 | CosmicPenguin | I wrote a FLTK tty port once |
23:11.38 | CosmicPenguin | Then I accidently deleted it in a rm -rf incident |
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23:49.07 | kergoth | i hate write only i2c devices. cant read a register back to confirm it was set properly |
23:49.10 | kergoth | heh |