| 00:36.07 | file[desk] | flyback: have both, it'll save time |
| 00:36.33 | flyback | yeah really |
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| 02:16.32 | fishhead- | http://www.howstuffworks.com/microcontroller.htm |
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| 03:37.30 | fishhead- | http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/electricCircuits/ |
| 03:44.38 | *** topic/#eLinux by fishhead- -> Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || cross compile, uClibc, busybox, tinylogin, handhelds, post-sale linux installs ;-), etc. || debian-handheld list is up. http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/electricCircuits/ get your analog skills up for building the embedded boards |
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| 07:05.24 | Russ | fishhead-: you try doc's in those sockets? |
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| 13:04.05 | mallum_ | kergoth`zzz: ping |
| 13:06.16 | file[desk] | mmm |
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| 14:02.07 | sieve_work | good morning all |
| 14:04.38 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
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| 14:07.24 | prpplague | morning all |
| 14:08.50 | file-mctnlug | ooh I could get a new ADSL Modem... |
| 14:09.49 | file-mctnlug | mmm nah |
| 14:11.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: morningt |
| 14:18.36 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: why? not like it's gonna make your dsl sync faster :P |
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| 14:31.24 | file-mctnlug | sorphin: my current ADSL modem likes to overheat |
| 14:31.31 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: heh |
| 14:32.25 | CosmicPenguin | Warm your coffee while you work |
| 14:32.28 | CosmicPenguin | Its the perfect setup |
| 14:32.38 | CosmicPenguin | The more you surf, the warmer your drink |
| 14:33.04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: then while you're looking at pr0n it should be scalding :P |
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| 14:34.09 | sorphin | TimRiker: Mornin Mr. T |
| 14:34.46 | CosmicPenguin | I pity da fool who doesn't use Linux |
| 14:36.09 | sorphin | TimRiker: you're Mr T (Mr Timmy *g*) |
| 14:36.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: </bad joke> :P |
| 14:37.06 | sorphin | TimRiker: that'd be scary, tim |
| 14:37.34 | file-mctnlug | go for a soul patch and goatee! |
| 15:16.44 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/3580 |
| 15:16.56 | CosmicPenguin | I think thats bad - too many cooks spoil the broth |
| 15:17.22 | sorphin | well, it's taken them 2 tries but honda's fixing my front struts now too finally |
| 15:17.43 | sorphin | morons shoulda done it last time like i pointed out, instead of saying 'no trouble found' |
| 15:37.10 | jnork | I used to work for Radio Shack. A customer would bring in a radio and complain that it didn't work... we'd try it and, sure enough, it totally failed to power on. So.. |
| 15:37.38 | jnork | We'd send it in with "doesn't work" as the complain. No, that's no good... we have to give detail. Sheesh. OK... |
| 15:38.00 | jnork | ...We'd send it in with a more detailed explanation, like "won't power on." Pretty unequivocal. |
| 15:38.19 | jnork | A week later it would come back from repair with the note, "Bench Test OK." |
| 15:38.31 | jnork | We'd plug it in and turn it on, and nothing would happen... |
| 15:38.49 | jnork | Those are the times we wanted to carpet bomb the repair facility. |
| 15:39.15 | jnork | My boss figured that "bench test" meant they'd set it on the workbench, and if it didn't fall off, it was OK. |
| 15:39.50 | jnork | Sounds like those people are working for your motorcycle repair shop now. |
| 15:44.16 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: considering writing a response to that, but nah |
| 15:44.39 | Russ | its hard to believe that more people aren't seeing the purple elefants on the firmware |
| 15:56.00 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: ? |
| 15:57.34 | Russ | purple elefants...they are big, impossible to miss....but due to a little SEP generator, you don't see them |
| 15:58.06 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: all I'm saying is that its your package, so its your right and responsiblity to fight it |
| 15:58.49 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I just thing that every do-gooder out there that thinks he is doing the right thing by yelling at the company is actually hurting the cause |
| 15:59.46 | Russ | well, people don't really see the infringement that is going on, because they aren't really looking for it |
| 16:00.23 | Russ | they release the source for what they have of mine, which is good, but they have made no effort to notify current customers, or even put a sticker on boxes that haven't sold yet |
| 16:00.35 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: thats not the point I'm trying to make |
| 16:00.50 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: are you happy with some guy contacting Linksys on your behalf without your knowlege or approval? |
| 16:00.59 | CosmicPenguin | Especially when you have legal counsel working on your side? |
| 16:01.33 | Russ | I consider it as noise, and I imagine linksys does too |
| 16:01.49 | Russ | although, because of all the noise, they'll probably just attmpt to shut of the noise |
| 16:02.05 | CosmicPenguin | I just worry that dilutes the situation - especially when legal matters are at stake |
| 16:02.22 | CosmicPenguin | This isn't a "Bring back the McRib" campaign - you're claiming damages under US law... |
| 16:02.26 | Russ | thats why I haven't posted my full report on /. |
| 16:05.01 | TimRiker | Russ: have you looked at zeroconf? It might be a Good Thing to add to udhcpc ? |
| 16:05.25 | Russ | its pretty easy to augment to udhcpc using scripts |
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| 16:10.28 | file[desk] | hello GPSFan and chouimat |
| 16:10.44 | file[desk] | what's a McRib? |
| 16:10.54 | chouimat | file[desk]: prok |
| 16:11.02 | file[desk] | chouimat: what ADSL Modem did you get? |
| 16:11.25 | jnork | It's a crappy McDonald's sandwich they introduced a couple times. |
| 16:11.37 | file[desk] | oh ic |
| 16:11.38 | chouimat | efficient but i'm not home so I don't remember correctly |
| 16:11.43 | file[desk] | chouimat: k |
| 16:11.45 | jnork | The flavour was all in the sauce. |
| 16:12.35 | file[desk] | nah, westell |
| 16:12.45 | jnork | I actually kinda liked it the first time they introduced it. Since then, I've apparently formed some taste buds. :) |
| 16:12.54 | GPSFan | file-mctnlug: hi.. |
| 16:13.08 | file[desk] | I like their McChicken burgers... |
| 16:13.22 | sorphin | jnork: wrong |
| 16:13.35 | jnork | I haven't formed taste buds? |
| 16:13.40 | jnork | It wasn't a sandwich? |
| 16:13.47 | jnork | The sauce had no flavour? |
| 16:13.54 | sorphin | jnork: no tastebugs, more than a couple times |
| 16:14.07 | sorphin | i thought/think it's good |
| 16:14.14 | sorphin | and i'm rather picky |
| 16:14.29 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 16:15.11 | jnork | OK, "few" rather than "couple," and my opinion of its taste is just my opinion, not to be taken as definitive. |
| 16:15.21 | jnork | Better? :) |
| 16:16.18 | sorphin | jnork:yes |
| 16:16.49 | CosmicPenguin | It was the only public campaign that I could think of |
| 16:16.53 | sorphin | chouimat1: lo |
| 16:16.59 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe the "bring back the old coke" was a better example |
| 16:17.20 | sorphin | which they still now call coke classic |
| 16:17.58 | jnork | yep |
| 16:18.00 | chouimat | they still sell new coke? I only saw coke classic here |
| 16:18.12 | jnork | AFAIK they dropped it. |
| 16:18.14 | sorphin | chouimat1: no |
| 16:18.38 | jnork | That's one way to sneak in a spy. |
| 16:18.54 | file[desk] | anybody try that Sprite Ice? |
| 16:19.00 | jnork | Or a 5th columnist or something. |
| 16:19.23 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: eh? |
| 16:19.28 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: i've had sprite remix |
| 16:19.31 | jnork | Never had it, file[desk]. |
| 16:19.40 | file[desk] | it's mint... |
| 16:19.45 | jnork | ... |
| 16:19.47 | sorphin | ugh |
| 16:19.47 | file[desk] | pop that tastes like mint |
| 16:20.39 | sorphin | jnork: now, i do like sprite remix |
| 16:20.43 | sorphin | kinda tastes like skittles |
| 16:20.47 | jnork | I haven't tried that either. |
| 16:21.13 | sorphin | jnork: tis worth a try |
| 16:21.28 | jnork | Eh. I don't drink much soda these days. |
| 16:21.37 | sorphin | well, i don't drink soda at all anymore |
| 16:21.51 | jnork | And then I usually stick to a few of my favorites. |
| 16:25.24 | jnork | OMG |
| 16:25.44 | jnork | The garbage truck is RIGHT OUTSIDE and I'm DOWNWIND |
| 16:26.00 | jnork | ugh |
| 16:26.10 | jnork | *choke* *gasp* |
| 16:28.01 | jnork | *whew* |
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| 16:41.42 | file | gotta love overheating ADSL modems... NOT! |
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| 16:45.38 | jnork | file, that's what liquid nitrogen is for. |
| 16:46.08 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 16:46.14 | file | jnork: I wish |
| 16:46.23 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:46.37 | jnork | oops! |
| 16:47.00 | chouimat | kergoth: th slayer War at warfield DVD is great |
| 16:47.09 | file | heh, I had some TCP Syn Flooding happening... |
| 16:49.17 | CosmicPenguin | I thought liquid nitrogen was for making ice cream? |
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| 16:51.05 | jnork | It's also good for removing warts. |
| 16:51.30 | jnork | The possibilites are unlimitless! |
| 16:51.46 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
| 16:54.55 | prpplague | hey |
| 16:55.38 | file | dammit overheated some more |
| 16:58.07 | file | 12% packet loss... son of a... |
| 16:59.27 | sorphin | jnork: esp since 'unlimitless' is contrdictory |
| 16:59.32 | sorphin | contradictory even |
| 17:03.29 | prpplague | well folks |
| 17:03.50 | prpplague | just got the word, i've been re-assign to the server division |
| 17:03.54 | prpplague | :( |
| 17:03.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: damn |
| 17:04.08 | file | prpplague: for those of us who are unaware of what this means, elaborate |
| 17:04.22 | prpplague | file: no more r&d fun |
| 17:04.29 | file | damn |
| 17:05.06 | prpplague | later guys |
| 17:05.17 | CosmicPenguin | Uh - I'm guessing that was bad |
| 17:05.33 | Russ | there is a liquid nitrogren line running somewhere within a quarter mile of here |
| 17:05.41 | Russ | dunno *exacty* where it runs though |
| 17:06.05 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I would assume that its insulated enough so that you couldn't tell |
| 17:06.09 | file | explore ;) |
| 17:06.49 | CosmicPenguin | And its not humid enough to make it do wierd metorlogical phenonomons |
| 17:07.07 | Russ | 'April 14, 1999, Arizona, Tempe, Heraeus Amersil, hydrogen supply line explosion, Arizona Republic' |
| 17:07.14 | Russ | aparently other happy pipelines too |
| 17:09.55 | file | damn, 29% packet loss |
| 17:10.41 | Russ | ah, the LN pipeline is for places like microchip, cmd, microtel, etc that are near here |
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| 17:12.58 | sorphin | sjhill: run |
| 17:13.03 | sorphin | sjhill: file's been waiting for you |
| 17:13.27 | sjhill | bah...i can take 'em |
| 17:13.46 | Russ | that'd be nice to tap the liquid nitrogen line for air cooling and computer cooling |
| 17:14.11 | Russ | run liquid nitrogren straight through a waterblock system... |
| 17:14.59 | CosmicPenguin | mmmmmmm..... superconductory....... |
| 17:15.54 | Russ | levitating superconductor office chair |
| 17:35.09 | Russ | that would levitate under a completely different principle |
| 17:35.10 | Russ | hot air |
| 17:53.27 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone willing to lay odds on prpplague quiting? |
| 17:53.53 | Russ | well, he could futz around till he gets fired |
| 17:54.00 | Russ | play battlefield all day or something |
| 17:54.20 | Russ | I'm not a bookie, so I don't know what the odds on either would be |
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| 17:57.46 | sjhill | file: someone said you were looking for me |
| 17:57.55 | sjhill | file: how may i not help you |
| 17:58.10 | file | sjhill: how much is a Philips Nino 312 worth with cradle, rechargable pack, charger, and modem? |
| 17:58.38 | sjhill | about $70us |
| 17:58.49 | file | k |
| 18:01.50 | file | sjhill: thanks |
| 18:03.40 | sjhill | sure |
| 18:04.03 | file | where though... maybe EBay |
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| 18:05.59 | legodude_ | hola alle |
| 18:34.39 | legodude | ooh |
| 18:34.42 | legodude | more linksys fun |
| 18:35.10 | file | eh? |
| 18:36.13 | legodude | ./. |
| 18:36.21 | Russ | I haven't visited that site in a long time |
| 18:36.29 | Russ | legodude: whoever wrote that article is pretty dense |
| 18:36.46 | andersee | Russ: agreed |
| 18:37.06 | legodude | that's what the comments seem to suggest |
| 18:37.18 | legodude | I'm getting really tired of slashdot also |
| 18:37.19 | TimRiker | Russ: yeah. I thought I had an account there but I could not find it. I'm looking at the system for a BZFlag karma system. |
| 18:38.06 | TimRiker | http://www.advogato.org/person/timriker/ <- heh |
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| 18:39.36 | Russ | they even name ppp as gpl software |
| 18:40.55 | Russ | I like this comment ' I would really like to see some "Open source lawyers"' |
| 18:42.16 | Russ | 'Guess what? It's totally possible that Linksys is in full compliance with the GPL.' |
| 18:42.19 | Russ | hahahahaha |
| 18:42.39 | andersee | TimRiker: Certification of timriker to Master level ok. |
| 18:44.10 | Russ | you certified yourself.... |
| 18:44.58 | Russ | TimRiker: remember anything about tom wood by chance? |
| 18:45.16 | Russ | ' How about this: Form a non-profit organization that essentially works like the BSA: threatens to sue non-compliant companies.' |
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| 18:49.26 | sorphin | legodude: yo |
| 18:49.39 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: Yeah, I responded to that /. crap |
| 18:49.43 | kergoth`food | hmm |
| 18:49.52 | CosmicPenguin | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=73095&cid=6580325 |
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| 18:51.25 | andersee | Russ: Certification of Russ to Master level ok. |
| 18:52.02 | sorphin | do i even wanna know what this certifying junk is? :P |
| 18:52.18 | TimRiker | I can't figure out how to un certify myself. (or anyone else for that matter) |
| 18:53.03 | TimRiker | sorphin: http://www.advogato.org/ |
| 18:53.46 | Russ | np |
| 18:53.54 | sorphin | ok... it looks like a freshmeat thing :P |
| 18:54.29 | TimRiker | how does one get added to a project page on advogato? |
| 18:56.27 | kergoth`food | mmm schlotzsky's |
| 19:02.51 | signal11 | yum |
| 19:02.59 | signal11 | thai chicken pizza is my favorite |
| 19:03.10 | CosmicPenguin | Chicken BBQ isn't bad either |
| 19:03.16 | kergoth | signal11: that the one with the peanut sauce? |
| 19:03.23 | kergoth | went with a turkey & bacon club today. good stuff. |
| 19:04.33 | signal11 | yeah |
| 19:08.16 | fontenot | damn I hate ppl who think like this: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=73095&cid=6580075 |
| 19:10.33 | sorphin | fontenot: then don't read the comments :P |
| 19:11.49 | fontenot | I have seen no mention of the *other* linksys products using linux and GPL'd code which we discovered last weekend |
| 19:11.57 | fontenot | such wrt55ag etc |
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| 20:47.31 | prpplague | wahoo! what a wonderful day, not |
| 20:54.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats the word man? |
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| 21:24.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: stupidity |
| 21:24.45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: tell us the tale |
| 21:25.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no need, i'm sure you've heard the one about the money grubbin sales mutant |
| 21:25.54 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 21:26.03 | CosmicPenguin | I'm familiar with the plot |
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| 23:45.46 | Russ | amn keyboar |