| 00:39.48 | kergoth | TimRiker: you ever used http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/? |
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| 02:39.14 | sorphin | GPSFan: evening ken |
| 02:47.56 | TimRiker | kergoth: not as such. |
| 02:48.33 | kergoth | TimRiker: looks like a issue tracking tool as powerful as bugzilla, but easy to use. |
| 02:48.36 | kergoth | TimRiker: and GPL |
| 02:48.40 | kergoth | thinking I may use it for OE/OZ |
| 02:55.11 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 02:55.17 | TimRiker | tell me how it goes. |
| 02:55.20 | kergoth | will do |
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| 02:57.33 | GPSFan | sorphin: evening dan, how did the soldeing go? |
| 02:59.14 | sorphin | GPSFan: ok, doesn't flash tho.. i emailed bigbrd for tips (all i have is wpflash from the programmer tar file and that doesn't look like what i should need to go thorugh the pic, to me anyways) |
| 03:00.00 | GPSFan | sorphin: can your programmer read out the flash simm? |
| 03:00.30 | sorphin | GPSFan: no, that's what i'm getting at, it sits at trying to contact programmer |
| 03:01.01 | sorphin | GPSFan: so i prodded him for clarification on a couple things, and such |
| 03:04.09 | GPSFan | sorphin: hmmm, so wpflash is used in its parallel port mode to talk directly to your pic programmer. could you have the parallel port in the wrong mode (EPP vs ECP)? |
| 03:04.19 | sorphin | umm |
| 03:04.21 | sorphin | serial |
| 03:04.25 | sorphin | not parallel port |
| 03:04.53 | GPSFan | sorphin: oh, I thought it was parallel. ;>P |
| 03:04.59 | sorphin | nope |
| 03:06.38 | GPSFan | sorphin: then I guess the pic is programmed to use the same protocl as the bootloader in the webpal (after the gdb trick). |
| 03:07.05 | sorphin | prolly |
| 03:07.12 | sorphin | looked like it in the source |
| 03:07.57 | GPSFan | sorphin: nice to be able to use the same pc software for both, (when it works...;>) |
| 03:09.07 | GPSFan | sorphin: you could look with your scope to see if there is data going to the pic, and if it is replying. |
| 03:10.21 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:10.26 | sorphin | well, i'm gonna see what he says |
| 03:11.31 | GPSFan | sure, easiet way, bigbrd is the expert after all. |
| 03:12.47 | sorphin | yeah |
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| 06:13.45 | TomW | sorphin: so the PIC is playing dead? |
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| 12:46.24 | cpenguin_home | Anyone else experiencing a really crappy internet experience, or is it just me? |
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| 13:48.17 | prpplague | morning all |
| 13:49.50 | GPSFan | prpplague: morning |
| 13:51.00 | file[bed] | who was it that made that PC104 router wireless thingy... |
| 13:55.21 | prpplague | file[bed]: russ |
| 13:55.33 | prpplague | file[bed]: from some pc104 parts i sent him |
| 13:58.21 | file[bed] | mmm |
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| 14:12.24 | file-mctnlug | hi Tim |
| 14:14.19 | prpplague | TimRiker: morning |
| 14:14.31 | prpplague | TimRiker: you finishing your battle with big D traffic? |
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| 14:22.58 | prpplague | mallum: howdy |
| 14:23.06 | prpplague | mallum: hows life in the UK today? |
| 14:23.16 | mallum | prpplague: good, just been into town |
| 14:23.28 | mallum | prpplague: got my glasses tweaked and some new books :-) |
| 14:24.00 | prpplague | mallum: cool |
| 14:24.12 | prpplague | mallum: nothing like getting a tune up on your specs |
| 14:24.14 | prpplague | lol |
| 14:24.18 | mallum | hehe |
| 14:25.08 | prpplague | mallum: i get new nose pieces about every three months |
| 14:25.57 | mallum | these glases I have way a ton |
| 14:26.05 | mallum | when it gets hot they slip |
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| 14:29.58 | sieve_work | good morning everyone |
| 14:30.22 | mallum | prpplague: I also found an old copy (89!) of the only human readable Xlib book :-) which Im quite chuffed about |
| 14:33.32 | prpplague | mallum: wow |
| 14:33.52 | prpplague | mallum: nice find |
| 14:34.14 | prpplague | mallum: ya i started getting this "feather-weight" glasses for the same reason |
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| 14:46.45 | prpplague | latest circuit cellar has lots of fun rf projects, lol |
| 14:49.32 | sorphin | cool |
| 14:49.37 | mallum | prpplague: here are my heavyweight glasses -> http://handhelds.org/~mallum/mallumclint.jpg |
| 14:50.08 | sorphin | mallum: ack.. |
| 14:54.49 | mallum | hehe |
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| 14:56.06 | prpplague | mallum: jeeze |
| 14:56.19 | prpplague | mallum: we call those "birth control" glasses around here |
| 14:56.56 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, was doing my moderating the other day, and saw a couple chicks from E. TX (atleast one was a transplant) |
| 14:57.12 | mallum | prpplague: There know as 'who is muda fuking daddy-o' in England |
| 14:57.35 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:59.49 | sorphin | rotfl, this dude on there looks like bill gates, country style |
| 15:00.56 | sorphin | http://pix2.hotornot.com/pics/HQ/H8/NZ/H8/NZS8NMAGTGXY.jpg |
| 15:10.26 | TimRiker | prpplague: more like a skirmish. the battle continues. ;-) |
| 15:16.03 | prpplague | TimRiker: lol |
| 15:32.51 | TimRiker | ~nslookup cvs.bzflag.org |
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| 15:38.59 | CosmicPenguin | grrrr.... |
| 15:42.02 | prpplague | ~nslookup www.myfeetstink.com |
| 15:43.00 | file[desk] | so that's what I was smelling |
| 15:43.00 | prpplague | ~nslookup www.verizoneatspoop.com |
| 15:43.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats going on? |
| 15:43.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ssdd |
| 15:43.36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: comcast is partially down - TCP is 98% broken, and UDP is spotty... :( |
| 15:43.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: stupid politics and technology uneducated management |
| 15:43.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doh |
| 15:43.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: So I can e-mail and irc, but no web pages.. :( |
| 15:44.10 | file[desk] | funky. |
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| 15:48.04 | file-mctnlug | andersee: greetings and salutations |
| 15:48.59 | andersee | file-mctnlug: morning |
| 15:49.13 | file-mctnlug | what's up? |
| 15:52.15 | andersee | file-mctnlug: nada |
| 16:00.35 | sorphin | prpplague: least your not working for a place w/ yet more fraud :P |
| 16:02.06 | prpplague | sorphin: that anyone knows about |
| 16:02.09 | sorphin | prpplague: remember when just a ways back mentioned E. Tx women |
| 16:02.15 | sorphin | here's one for ya |
| 16:02.19 | sorphin | http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=N8OSNUO&key=MVN |
| 16:02.19 | prpplague | sorphin: ok |
| 16:02.30 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:03.00 | CosmicPenguin | Who's the jackass in the pictures with her? |
| 16:03.07 | sorphin | no idea |
| 16:03.15 | CosmicPenguin | Welcome back web! |
| 16:03.52 | prpplague | sorphin: doesn't say where she's at |
| 16:04.16 | sorphin | says it in her 'meet me' info, which you won't see till her profile goes mainline |
| 16:04.25 | sorphin | prpplague: remember i'm a mod, so i see it already :P |
| 16:04.40 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh, i reloaded |
| 16:04.48 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, lol, pretty typical et girl |
| 16:05.03 | sorphin | prpplague: even kergoth could deal w/ that i think |
| 16:05.05 | prpplague | sorphin: i wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole |
| 16:05.15 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:05.27 | sorphin | why? cuz that's as tall as their hair? |
| 16:05.49 | prpplague | sorphin: no just have lousy personalities |
| 16:06.03 | prpplague | sorphin: not exactly the kind of women that are good mates for geeks |
| 16:06.24 | sorphin | prpplague: those in general are hard to find :P |
| 16:06.31 | prpplague | sorphin: not really |
| 16:06.37 | prpplague | sorphin: just go overseas |
| 16:06.38 | prpplague | sorphin: :) |
| 16:06.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:06.45 | prpplague | sorphin: but sieve_work can attest |
| 16:06.52 | prpplague | sorphin: et women are even worse |
| 16:07.03 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:20.31 | kergoth | heh, that chick reminds me of my ex. course the way shit went down with that, dave may have a point |
| 16:20.52 | sorphin | heh |
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| 16:35.47 | Russ | fscking power outages |
| 16:38.03 | Russ | aparently, our wimpy power poles can't stand a little breeze blowing though |
| 16:38.39 | Russ | either that, or the transformer in out neighborhood couldn't stand a little shock |
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| 16:40.51 | sorphin | Russ: people running their A/C |
| 16:40.58 | prpplague | Russ: we had a 56k dds circuit at a customer site that would drop everytime the wind would blow |
| 16:41.15 | sorphin | prpplague: mci/wcom right? ;) |
| 16:41.31 | Russ | http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0730storm30.html |
| 16:41.36 | Russ | wimpy power system |
| 16:42.26 | file[desk] | ooh, free UPS Standard Shipping |
| 16:43.18 | prpplague | sorphin: southwesternbell |
| 16:43.50 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: so? |
| 16:44.03 | sorphin | that's just UPS gnd |
| 16:44.11 | sorphin | lotta places have free gnd |
| 16:44.28 | sorphin | what yo udon't know is it' actually built into the price :P |
| 16:45.01 | kergoth | not always, just comparison shop |
| 16:45.12 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:45.36 | kergoth | hmm. caffeine + good tunes + coding = happy kergoth |
| 16:45.55 | sorphin | kergoth: what tunes today? |
| 16:46.34 | kergoth | xm's The System today |
| 16:47.12 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:47.14 | prpplague | kergoth: you get my msg |
| 16:47.23 | prpplague | kergoth: i can;t ship the z today |
| 16:47.26 | prpplague | kergoth: will have to be tomorrow |
| 16:47.54 | file-mctnlug | I think Futureshop's online system screwed up, they billed me 72 cents - not $4.10 |
| 16:48.00 | kergoth | prpplague: no problem, i forgot to email you the address anyway |
| 16:48.02 | file-mctnlug | I suppose it could be for a confirmation though |
| 16:48.27 | kergoth | prpplague: fyi, tmm1 got TS working in Opie on 2.4.21-cl1 on collie |
| 16:48.32 | kergoth | prpplague: only sdmmc is holding us up now. |
| 16:49.43 | sorphin | kergoth: thought yo uwere going that |
| 16:49.45 | sorphin | erm |
| 16:49.45 | sorphin | doing that |
| 16:49.53 | kergoth | I am |
| 16:50.00 | kergoth | just saying what the status is |
| 16:50.06 | kergoth | the release is only pending the sdmmc stuff i'm doing |
| 16:50.29 | prpplague | kergoth: cool |
| 16:50.40 | sorphin | v 3.4 or ? |
| 16:50.53 | prpplague | kergoth: i ordered one of the tungsten t2's |
| 16:51.07 | prpplague | kergoth: was hoping to get some hands on with an omap |
| 16:51.43 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 16:53.05 | prpplague | kergoth: if you haven;t already noticed, i like to tinker around on platforms that i can't get help on, lol, makes it more challenging to learn, lol |
| 16:53.20 | kergoth | *cough*masochist*cough* |
| 16:53.59 | prpplague | lol |
| 16:54.26 | mallum | kergoth: heya |
| 16:54.40 | mallum | kergoth: is the src now out for the c7xx kernels ? |
| 16:54.48 | kergoth | mallum: yep |
| 16:54.56 | kergoth | mallum: OZ works on 5600/c750/c760 |
| 16:55.59 | mallum | kergoth: rock :-) |
| 16:56.16 | mallum | kergoth: I go to Japan in a few weeks :-) |
| 16:56.34 | sorphin | heh, /. has review(s) on the 750 |
| 16:56.44 | mallum | kergoth: have you played with 750/60 ? |
| 16:57.07 | kergoth | mallum: c750 yeah |
| 16:57.14 | kergoth | mallum: they're like the c700 but faster. very nice. |
| 16:57.50 | sorphin | kergoth: right stepping this time? :P |
| 16:57.50 | mallum | kergoth: cool, does it do full screen video ? |
| 16:58.02 | kergoth | mallum: havent tried |
| 16:58.18 | kergoth | sorphin: yes, pxa255, plus the bus mhz is double iirc |
| 16:58.21 | mallum | kergoth: Im just wondering if any more of the ati chips functionality has been exposed |
| 16:58.34 | sorphin | kergoth: wow, sharp did something right ;) |
| 16:58.52 | kergoth | mallum: doubtful, but ya never know. |
| 16:59.07 | kergoth | mallum: the c750/c760 kernel source support corgi |
| 16:59.20 | kergoth | ibot: husky |
| 16:59.20 | | hmm... husky is Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 or a dog |
| 16:59.23 | kergoth | ibot: shepherd |
| 16:59.23 | | well, shepherd is Sharp Zaurus SL-C750 or a dog |
| 16:59.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:59.38 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:59.47 | sorphin | someone at sharp likes dogs :P |
| 16:59.48 | mallum | kergoth: ah a 750 kernel runs of a 700 ? |
| 16:59.53 | mallum | pugs :-) |
| 17:00.13 | sorphin | mallum: so i saw :P |
| 17:00.23 | mallum | hehe |
| 17:00.41 | CosmicPenguin | I only name my projects after rivers - like Ubangi and Volva |
| 17:02.43 | prpplague | ibot: collie |
| 17:02.44 | | collie is, like, sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 17:02.47 | prpplague | lol |
| 17:02.49 | prpplague | cute |
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| 17:12.28 | kergoth | andersee: hey |
| 17:13.06 | andersee | kergoth: morning |
| 17:13.13 | Russ | morning |
| 17:13.18 | andersee | kergoth: you're up early |
| 17:13.21 | andersee | Russ: morning |
| 17:13.37 | kergoth | considering the schedule i'm on, indeed it is early. thank god for starbucks |
| 17:13.45 | kergoth | andersee: hows it going? |
| 17:14.14 | andersee | Russ: did you see on lkml there is a Netgear 54g router running linux (w/o source as usual)? |
| 17:14.30 | andersee | Russ: what do you wanna bet it has both busybox and udhcp? |
| 17:14.47 | kergoth | yet another violation? jeeze. |
| 17:14.53 | andersee | kergoth: not bad. I got busybox 1.0.0-pre2 released about 4am this morning |
| 17:14.53 | Russ | I bet, 5 beers |
| 17:14.59 | Russ | not on lkml |
| 17:15.01 | kergoth | andersee: oh excellent. |
| 17:15.19 | andersee | Russ: not gonna take a bet I know I'll lose |
| 17:15.21 | andersee | :) |
| 17:15.31 | Russ | all I gotta say, is that broadcom is probably making bank selling GPL software under another license |
| 17:17.44 | prpplague | mmm, sharp on the phone about a new dev board :) |
| 17:18.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: details? |
| 17:20.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: should have them in about an hour |
| 17:22.08 | CosmicPenguin | Fun..... :) |
| 17:37.19 | kergoth | Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds |
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| 18:23.16 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: you here? |
| 18:23.29 | signal11 | yeah |
| 18:23.31 | signal11 | whats up |
| 18:27.05 | kergoth | I need a scope. any recommendations? |
| 18:27.30 | fontenot | kergoth: TomW is a good person to ask |
| 18:28.08 | fontenot | probably Russ too |
| 18:29.18 | Russ | I've never used a scope except for ee classes... |
| 18:33.35 | Russ | dunno if you need a scope |
| 18:33.46 | Russ | you can use spice just as well |
| 18:34.06 | kergoth | spice? |
| 18:34.39 | Russ | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=2169 |
| 18:35.27 | Russ | of course, there are modern programs everywhere that use spice and have gui this, and waveform that... |
| 18:36.09 | kergoth | coool |
| 18:36.22 | Russ | the article was aparently written by someone at tektronix (they make the good oscilliscopes) with a mullet |
| 18:36.27 | kergoth | happen to know any decent EE books? |
| 18:36.37 | Russ | for? |
| 18:37.51 | kergoth | at this point? probably something pretty introductory |
| 18:38.07 | kergoth | general |
| 18:38.08 | Russ | does "thevian equivilent" mean anything to you? |
| 18:38.08 | kergoth | brb |
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| 18:41.33 | prpplague | later folks |
| 18:46.28 | kergoth | Russ: nope. I essentially need to go through the equivalent of a normal college set of courses, from intro on up. maybe i should raid a college book store. |
| 18:46.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:54.10 | fontenot | heh I used spice on a mainframe in college |
| 18:54.36 | kergoth | maybe I should just to college. |
| 18:54.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:54.41 | fontenot | heh |
| 18:54.43 | fontenot | :-D |
| 18:55.03 | kergoth | went for a year during my senior year of HS, took too intense a courseload and promptly burned out |
| 18:55.07 | kergoth | heh |
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| 19:15.29 | Russ | kergoth: yup, you need to start with manually calculating dc volatages on RLC circuits |
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| 19:47.29 | prpplague | TimRiker: re mr.linux-technologist |
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| 19:56.41 | prpplague | TimRiker: :( no go on the job |
| 20:04.47 | TimRiker | no? bummer! |
| 20:05.16 | TimRiker | I wonder who they did hire, if anybody. |
| 20:07.23 | prpplague | TimRiker: the HR person said that someone had accepted the job |
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| 20:26.09 | TomW | kergoth: scope? somebody say "scope"? |
| 20:28.08 | flyback | hey |
| 20:28.18 | TomW | ? |
| 20:28.24 | flyback | any of your canuck ever used the bootstrap mode of a m68k dragonball |
| 20:28.51 | kergoth | TomW: yeah, looking to learn more about the hardware level of things. I feel blind on that front. |
| 20:28.51 | prpplague | TomW: dragonball, isn't that your ballpark? |
| 20:28.57 | TomW | dunno who you are talking about, canuck, but I have used the boot mode. |
| 20:29.06 | flyback | i was calling you all canadians |
| 20:29.07 | flyback | :P |
| 20:29.13 | flyback | you have used the bootstrap mode ? |
| 20:29.21 | CosmicPenguin | What, only candians can do Dragonball? |
| 20:29.34 | flyback | I have a dead palm and I was going to try the bootstrap mode to see if the motherboard is really dead |
| 20:29.47 | TomW | flyback: you hold the debug low, then strobe reset and it goes in to a mini kernel mode. You can write to memory, jump to memory. |
| 20:30.13 | flyback | yeah I just have to find that pin |
| 20:30.17 | flyback | how do I hold it low ? |
| 20:30.55 | TomW | flyback: the chip comes up 9600,n,8,1 on the serial port, then when you send it a <CR> (not <LF>) it prints an '@' sign. |
| 20:30.59 | flyback | I still don't comprehend the whole concept of ground etc |
| 20:31.14 | TomW | flyback: then you are in trouble... |
| 20:31.45 | flyback | I kinda understand it non-battery |
| 20:31.55 | flyback | but they batter throws me for a loop all over again |
| 20:32.20 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: lol |
| 20:32.32 | flyback | when I power up my palm, all it does is light up the screen and screeches |
| 20:32.51 | flyback | now before it started doing that, almost one year ago it died in the middle of a flash |
| 20:33.03 | flyback | I double checked with another palm so I know It wasn't somethign I did |
| 20:33.08 | flyback | I think the flash developed a bad sector |
| 20:33.09 | TomW | flyback: the Palm-IIIe that I have doesn't bring the BDM line out, the RESET you can get at from the pinhole in the case. You have to solder a wire to the BDM line (on the 68EZ328 chip) and bring it out so you can ground it. |
| 20:33.29 | flyback | the palm would yeah I know it's in pieces |
| 20:33.40 | flyback | the palm would bring up a flashing line but nothign else |
| 20:33.51 | flyback | I could get into a debug terminal program and send it commands etc |
| 20:33.54 | flyback | but it would not flash |
| 20:33.59 | flyback | the flash tools woudl come back with a error |
| 20:34.18 | flyback | after I did this for a few weeks I gave up, took the batteries out and put it away |
| 20:34.24 | flyback | weeks later when I put them baxck in, it was dead |
| 20:34.53 | flyback | screen and digitizer are fine I used them to fix my mom |
| 20:34.59 | flyback | 's IIIX with a broken digitizer |
| 20:35.03 | flyback | it's defintely the mb |
| 20:35.22 | flyback | staples wrote me a $250 check because theyf ouled up the warrenty so I am not gping to fight with this too much |
| 20:35.23 | TomW | flyback: it really takes a 10X microscope and a fine tip iron to solder the 30gauge wire (wire wrap wire) onto the CPU pin without fscking it up and shorting out other pins near it. If you have never worked on electronic circuits before, you are screwed. This is not an easy job to do. |
| 20:35.47 | flyback | I was going to follow a trace and tap it there |
| 20:36.10 | TomW | flyback: there is no trace, nothing is hooked to the BDM line. |
| 20:36.20 | TomW | s/line/pin/ |
| 20:36.28 | flyback | then I will hold it long enough to get it to power on in bootstrap mode |
| 20:38.02 | flyback | all I want to do is confirm if the mb is 100% dead or not |
| 20:38.16 | TomW | kergoth: I would suggest that you pick up a used Tektronix 465B series of scope from ebay. You can usually find them for about $300, make sure that it has a good tube in it, that is to say that the display is bright. |
| 20:38.52 | flyback | what do you mean strobe reset btw |
| 20:38.58 | flyback | I thought you just had to hit reset once |
| 20:39.24 | TomW | flyback: yeah, well, you hold CONTROL + ALT, then "strobe" DELETE, right? |
| 20:39.46 | TomW | flyback: you have to hold BDM to ground, then "strobe" RESET. |
| 20:39.55 | TomW | flyback: strobe == tap |
| 20:40.26 | flyback | ah |
| 20:40.27 | flyback | :) |
| 20:40.52 | flyback | i'll have to do this a day when my hands are not shaking as much |
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| 20:41.49 | flyback | when it goes into bootstrap mode |
| 20:41.56 | flyback | will I see any characters on a serial terminal |
| 20:42.00 | flyback | I mean even justa * |
| 20:42.22 | TomW | kergoth: if you really want a usefull scope for some high speed work (> 100MHz), then look to purchase a nice Tektronix 2432. These are digital storage scopes, two channel and very nice. They are usually between $500..$1200 on ebay. Also make sure that the display is bright (good) and they claim that it passes the "power on self test" without any failures. That model scope's self test is very(!) thorough! |
| 20:43.05 | TomW | flyback: you will then send the unit a CARRIAGE RETURN and it will respond with an '@' char to let you know that it is in debug mode. |
| 20:43.13 | flyback | cool |
| 20:43.56 | TomW | flyback: however, the debug mode is extremely simple. You cannot issue it commands like "download image", etc.. |
| 20:44.14 | flyback | now I just have to figure out which pin is the pin I need and figure out a way to hold a needle on it and whatever I need to set the pin low and at the same time keep it attached to a serial connector |
| 20:44.20 | flyback | oh I assumed that dude |
| 20:44.37 | flyback | like I said I did some work with a debugger before so I assume this will be even worse |
| 20:45.19 | flyback | bah |
| 20:45.21 | flyback | mother of canuck |
| 20:45.29 | flyback | not enough weight to hold it on the cradle |
| 20:46.16 | TomW | flyback: the only thing that you can do in debug mode is send it specially formatted groupings of ascii chars to STORE_TO_MEMORY and EXECUTE_FROM_MEMORY. That is it, nothing more. To read memory, you have to write to opcodes into RAM to fetch the memory location you want, they store it into the RS232 Transmit buffer so the byte is sent to the PC. Once at the PC, you can take that byte and do a "printf ("%02x", the_byte)". |
| 20:46.25 | flyback | i'll have to tape it |
| 20:46.39 | TomW | flyback: you're not listening to me. |
| 20:46.49 | flyback | yes I am |
| 20:46.54 | TomW | ok |
| 20:47.43 | flyback | I am not going to be doing any reading |
| 20:47.51 | flyback | I just want to upload enough of a os into ram and exec |
| 20:48.45 | TomW | flyback: there is a kermit script on my website, under the EZ328SIMM project that will do the work of behaving like a simple debugger interface to the 68EZ328 CPU. You also will need the B_RECORD file to download into the processor so you can get the DRAM controller running (so the RAM will store stuff) and that B_RECORD file will also setup the chip selects so you can access the Flash memory. |
| 20:48.50 | flyback | or mabye just restore the first sector that stupid palm allows you to overwrite and kill |
| 20:49.04 | TomW | flyback: http://www.openhardware.net |
| 20:49.09 | flyback | thanks ;) |
| 20:49.33 | TomW | flyback: but I warn you, this is not something for the 'faint of heart' to undertake. Good luck. |
| 20:49.45 | flyback | I can follow or guide |
| 20:49.51 | TomW | k |
| 20:49.52 | flyback | a script or guide i mean |
| 20:50.18 | flyback | would having a working palm help ? |
| 20:50.37 | flyback | I have my mom's IIIX it's the same as a IIIxe but only 4 meg of ram instead of 8 |
| 20:50.39 | TomW | flyback: read the kermit script. it will tell you all you need to know, then look at the B_RECORD file and read my comments in that file. |
| 20:50.44 | flyback | that's why I was able to swap scripts |
| 20:50.44 | TomW | flyback: no |
| 20:52.10 | TomW | flyback: only thing a "working" Palm will tell you is that you have the scripts setup correctly, and that you can invoke the debug mode. I mod'ed my Palm-IIIe for debug mode, but never tried it. My palm works fine for me without linux on it. |
| 20:52.55 | flyback | yeah i'd be happy with palm os :P |
| 20:53.03 | flyback | I am gettign a tungstno T2 soon |
| 20:53.27 | TomW | flyback: the stuff you want is in the download button. I don't recall what RPM has the kermit stuff in it (been a couple of years since I messed with it). Wait... I did some recent work on the 68EZ328, let me look around my file system here... |
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| 20:54.16 | TomW | flyback: yup, there they are. You take DCC? |
| 20:54.24 | flyback | yes |
| 20:54.25 | flyback | sure |
| 20:55.40 | TomW | flyback: that is the B_RECORD file that the kermit script sends to setup the chip selects, uart speed, etc. |
| 20:55.55 | flyback | oh is that like the bios/firmware ? |
| 20:55.59 | flyback | just the bare inits |
| 20:57.20 | TomW | flyback: that is the kermit script. Read both and refer to the Datasheet of the MC68EZ328 processor, on the section for the BDM mode. |
| 20:57.26 | flyback | thanks |
| 20:57.33 | TomW | np |
| 20:57.41 | flyback | how much are those webpal |
| 20:57.43 | flyback | now |
| 20:58.34 | TomW | flyback: I found a guy in California that has a couple hundred of them in a warehouse he purchased. The last one I got was $5 + $15.00 shipping. |
| 20:58.46 | flyback | damn |
| 20:59.43 | flyback | damn that's a nice little box |
| 21:00.18 | TomW | flyback: I am almost finished with designing an ISA board for the webpals. It has a 10BaseT, two RS232 and two RS485 serial ports, plus a Compact Flash socket. The CF socket peeks out the front of the WebPal so you can easily remove the CF card. |
| 21:00.34 | flyback | wow |
| 21:00.40 | flyback | way ahead of me |
| 21:00.48 | flyback | I been a pc x86 hardware tech the last 10 of my 29 yrs |
| 21:00.57 | flyback | but late last yr I started looking at embedded |
| 21:01.38 | TomW | flyback: the card will also have a breadboard area approx 2.5" X 3" that is a perf soldering area. This way you can add stuff to the webpal and add custom electronics. |
| 21:01.45 | flyback | nice |
| 21:01.59 | TomW | flyback: I do a lot of 8051 work. :( too much. |
| 21:02.02 | flyback | isa's still good for non-pc's |
| 21:02.05 | flyback | really ? |
| 21:02.12 | flyback | dude it's a good little microcontroller |
| 21:02.18 | flyback | cheap and usually gets the job done |
| 21:02.25 | flyback | have you seen the ones from dallas and st |
| 21:02.51 | TomW | flyback: yeah, I am putting the ISA card together to prototype an ARM + Linux design so I can show a demo of the system concept to a prospective customer. |
| 21:02.55 | flyback | dallas has one with 75 mhz/2 clock/cycle, 16 meg linear addressing, 40 bit math accumulator, 10/100 ethernet, tcpip in rom $9 |
| 21:03.08 | flyback | oh you do this professionally :) |
| 21:03.08 | flyback | cool |
| 21:03.23 | flyback | the st one is really neat |
| 21:03.34 | flyback | up to 512KB flash and 32KB sram |
| 21:03.42 | flyback | plus is has a bank ofprogrammable logic |
| 21:03.42 | TomW | flyback: I won't use them, most people I know need ethernet + IP networking layer. I like the idea of embedded Linux. |
| 21:04.09 | flyback | so you can bounce the flash between program and data space or split to both |
| 21:04.18 | flyback | yeah 8 bit micro's usually only need a serial comm |
| 21:04.28 | TomW | flyback: seen them, not too interested in them. |
| 21:04.49 | flyback | the motor controller stuff scares the hell out of me |
| 21:04.59 | TomW | flyback: I like the ARM720 stuff that Cirrus has: EP7312, etc. |
| 21:05.15 | flyback | oh arm stuff is great |
| 21:05.23 | flyback | just horrible overkill for the lower end |
| 21:05.48 | TomW | flyback: depends on your market, how low is low? |
| 21:05.57 | flyback | 8 bit class |
| 21:06.03 | flyback | alarm systems, motor controllers etc |
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| 21:06.27 | TomW | flyback: I consult for the Fire + Burg Alarm industry. |
| 21:06.46 | flyback | dude I know the larger scal alarms need more |
| 21:06.53 | TomW | yeah |
| 21:07.08 | flyback | I am talking the very low end for things like motors |
| 21:07.19 | flyback | where it's now cheap enough to use a electronic communitator |
| 21:07.41 | flyback | instead of pathethic brush or even just pwm so the motor doesn't just burn up excess power as heat |
| 21:08.10 | flyback | although some of the motor controllers are dsp based now |
| 21:08.21 | TomW | flyback: what I mostly work on is a controller that "networks" fire panels with a security alarm system. The head-end security system is monitoring the status of the fire panels via this little 8 bit controller that I designed 10+ years ago. Now they need IP + ethernet, their customers are demanding it. |
| 21:08.29 | flyback | because the dsp can do back-emf senssnig instead of having to use expensive sensors |
| 21:09.40 | TomW | flyback: I've run out of MIPS and PROM memory and shudder to think of writing a network layer for an 8 bit machine. Regardless of how much Flash / RAM it has. |
| 21:09.48 | flyback | hehhe |
| 21:10.08 | TomW | flyback: 32bit is now so much more cost effective from an engineering cost standpoint. |
| 21:10.12 | flyback | mabye you should use a micro with embedded ether |
| 21:10.25 | flyback | yeah they have some cheap low end or even high end 32 bit chips |
| 21:10.39 | TomW | naw, same problem, you either write your own network layer or purchase one. |
| 21:11.06 | TomW | flyback: I am looking to implement the new controller using RTAI + Linux + ARM. |
| 21:11.25 | flyback | cool |
| 21:12.03 | TomW | flyback: Actually, I wrote an RTAI system about 10 years ago, before they had a name for it. So, I am not concerned with RTLinux's patent. We have Prior-Art. |
| 21:13.03 | flyback | yeah I know |
| 21:13.08 | flyback | while I respect IP |
| 21:13.16 | flyback | the lawyers are getting totally full of shit |
| 21:13.22 | TomW | flyback: what do you work on? What do you do? |
| 21:13.42 | flyback | I am a x86 pc techie |
| 21:14.03 | TomW | flyback: you do any circuit design work? |
| 21:14.14 | flyback | I don't do any work at all yet |
| 21:14.20 | TomW | heh |
| 21:14.30 | flyback | this is just a hobby |
| 21:14.31 | flyback | for now |
| 21:15.18 | TomW | flyback: that is how it started with me, just a hobby, then somebody hired me to do software engineering, then they needed a board designed... That was 16 years ago. |
| 21:15.48 | flyback | well I got some mental miswiring so it's probably goign to be a while before I could this this that well |
| 21:15.51 | TomW | flyback: I wrote C + Assembly code for about 8 years before that. |
| 21:15.51 | flyback | mabye someday though :) |
| 21:16.07 | flyback | I just bought home some more old iSA cards from work to salvage chips from |
| 21:16.16 | flyback | once I fire up my 1000F heatgun this weekend |
| 21:16.21 | flyback | doign that outside from nwo one |
| 21:16.24 | flyback | now on |
| 21:16.30 | flyback | made myself too sick last time |
| 21:17.08 | TomW | flyback: carefull, you will "cook" the silicon if you exceed more than 150 degrees Celsius internal temp of the chips. |
| 21:17.17 | flyback | which is how much F ? |
| 21:17.34 | TomW | ibot: 150C |
| 21:17.35 | | TomW: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:17.41 | TomW | ? |
| 21:17.44 | flyback | !convert 150C |
| 21:17.53 | flyback | ibot 150C |
| 21:17.54 | | flyback: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 21:17.58 | flyback | ibot 150c |
| 21:17.59 | | flyback: i haven't a clue |
| 21:18.03 | flyback | ibot botsnack |
| 21:18.03 | | flyback: thanks |
| 21:18.10 | TomW | ibot: convert 150C |
| 21:18.38 | TomW | what is it? C * 5 / 9 + 32 |
| 21:18.58 | TomW | no, C * 9 / 5 + 32 |
| 21:19.15 | flyback | these are old 74 series logic btw |
| 21:19.18 | flyback | mostly LS |
| 21:19.26 | TomW | flyback: 300F |
| 21:19.30 | flyback | ouch |
| 21:19.39 | flyback | well I am only heating the back till the solder melts |
| 21:19.45 | TomW | flyback: the heat gun can easily go to 500..700F |
| 21:19.57 | flyback | I did research on this, people use blowtorches even and have no problems |
| 21:19.58 | TomW | flyback: Solder melts at 370F |
| 21:20.03 | flyback | but I try to be careful; |
| 21:20.09 | sorphin | holy bufferfill batman |
| 21:20.18 | TomW | sorphin: phffffft |
| 21:20.58 | TomW | sorphin: PIC-ing anything up lately? |
| 21:21.21 | sorphin | TomW: waiting to hear back from bigbrd on some clarifications |
| 21:22.08 | flyback | there are some nice new pic's |
| 21:22.10 | flyback | one with wireless |
| 21:22.14 | flyback | one with a motor controller |
| 21:23.37 | flyback | tom what do I need to hold that pin low for a few seconds |
| 21:24.12 | TomW | flyback: I have invested 7 years into Linux, with 3 of those years into embedded linux (uClinux, etc). I've become convinced that embedded linux is a good solution, that means 32 bit processors. So, I don't even look at the 8 bit offerings. |
| 21:24.29 | flyback | well dude |
| 21:24.32 | flyback | no argument |
| 21:24.36 | flyback | for 32 bit class and up linux rocks |
| 21:24.45 | flyback | I was talking to sorphin btw :) |
| 21:24.46 | TomW | flyback: besides, "anyone" can come up with an 8 bit solution these days. The 32 bit stuff takes a lot more work + expertise. |
| 21:24.52 | flyback | bah |
| 21:24.56 | flyback | you be surprised |
| 21:25.21 | flyback | done any i386EX work or amd ELAN ? |
| 21:25.25 | TomW | flyback: that's ok, you can talk "about" sorphin all you want on this channel... ;) |
| 21:25.41 | sorphin | TomW: go back to sleep old man |
| 21:25.51 | TomW | flyback: naw, I did look at the stuff, but, it didn't really turn me on. |
| 21:26.06 | sorphin | TomW: that must be why you need viagra ;) |
| 21:26.10 | TomW | heh |
| 21:26.26 | sorphin | TomW: stop looking at hardware and start looking at women :P |
| 21:26.32 | flyback | HAGAGAGAGAA |
| 21:26.36 | flyback | heh I have that problem |
| 21:26.40 | flyback | 29 yrs, never dated |
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| 21:27.02 | TomW | I was married once, ..., once |
| 21:27.10 | flyback | someday I will find the right girl |
| 21:27.12 | flyback | oh sorry man |
| 21:27.15 | sorphin | TomW: then like prpplague, you woke up |
| 21:27.42 | TomW | yeah, sort of. I'd do it again. With the right woman it could be really nice. |
| 21:27.51 | TomW | heh |
| 21:28.09 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: still on the Honeymoon? |
| 21:28.25 | file-mctnlug | where's Master MIPs... |
| 21:28.36 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: likely off MIPS'ing |
| 21:28.51 | TomW | flyback: sjhill? he shows up frequently. |
| 21:29.03 | flyback | huh ? |
| 21:29.07 | sorphin | name matching |
| 21:29.08 | sorphin | :P |
| 21:29.11 | TomW | well, I got a board to finish. CUL |
| 21:29.14 | sorphin | flyback: was meant for file |
| 21:29.18 | flyback | sjhill ? |
| 21:29.22 | CosmicPenguin | TomW`busy: you could say that - thought we've been together for almost 4 years, and living together for 1, so there weren't too many surprises |
| 21:29.28 | sorphin | flyback: he's the resident MIPS guru |
| 21:29.39 | flyback | mips is nice too |
| 21:29.50 | sorphin | flyback: used to be a broadcom lackey |
| 21:29.54 | sorphin | now works for timesys |
| 21:29.59 | TomW`busy | CosmicPenguin: that's nice, I would like to work at a relationship again. It can be quite satisfying to have a good one going. |
| 21:30.00 | flyback | timesys |
| 21:30.02 | flyback | WTF?!~??!?!??! |
| 21:30.10 | flyback | the pennsylvania company ?!??! |
| 21:30.16 | file-mctnlug | he's also the master of Philips Ninos... |
| 21:30.19 | sorphin | ya |
| 21:30.22 | sorphin | that one |
| 21:30.24 | TomW`busy | flyback: yeah, in Pittsburg |
| 21:30.30 | flyback | I will have to pick his brain about a job then |
| 21:30.35 | flyback | I live 1 hr from pittsburgh |
| 21:30.47 | sorphin | flyback: 1st tip |
| 21:30.53 | jacques | netgear is violating the gpl too now??? |
| 21:30.54 | TomW`busy | flyback: I live on the other side of the state, directly opposite Pittsburg |
| 21:30.56 | sorphin | the less !?!?!?!? the better ;) |
| 21:31.02 | flyback | tom cool |
| 21:31.10 | flyback | pa has so many cool companies |
| 21:31.14 | flyback | and so many first |
| 21:31.17 | flyback | first computer |
| 21:31.19 | flyback | car |
| 21:31.21 | flyback | steel |
| 21:31.23 | flyback | nuke plants |
| 21:31.31 | sorphin | drug addicts? :P |
| 21:31.39 | flyback | yeah like me |
| 21:32.34 | flyback | heh |
| 21:32.46 | sorphin | hey, it's flyback voltage :P |
| 21:32.58 | sorphin | flyback: no!!! not file!!!!!!!!!! *snicker* |
| 21:33.11 | file-mctnlug | chouimat is a worse canuck |
| 21:33.29 | sorphin | file-mctnlug: nah, he just can't talk so you understand him cuz he's a frenchie canuck |
| 21:33.29 | flyback | I hate canucks |
| 21:33.38 | flyback | their country has commited so many acts of terrorism |
| 21:33.56 | sorphin | flyback: case in point, choimat's hero, celine :P *g* |
| 21:34.00 | flyback | celin dion's titanic soundtrack, sci fi series earth final conflict, lexx, beastmaster, xfiles, the outer limits, |
| 21:34.47 | flyback | YES! |
| 21:34.54 | flyback | YOU GOTO HELL AND YOU DIE! |
| 21:34.59 | flyback | BURN BABY BURN! |
| 21:35.09 | sorphin | flyback: disco inferno? |
| 21:35.29 | flyback | w00h00 |
| 21:35.31 | flyback | burn babye burn |
| 21:35.32 | CosmicPenguin | sigh - this used to be such a nice quiet room once upon a time |
| 21:35.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: then you joined *g* |
| 21:35.51 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I was here before you |
| 21:35.56 | flyback | that what you get for trying to kill everyone else on the road A***hole |
| 21:37.42 | flyback | so if they wrap themselves around a telephone pole |
| 21:37.46 | flyback | I PISS ON THEIR GRAVES! |
| 21:37.55 | jacques | anyone hear about prism GT linux support? someone on l-k says support was announced a few days ago |
| 21:39.03 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't heard anything |
| 21:39.11 | CosmicPenguin | Doesn't mean that isn't true though |
| 21:41.30 | jacques | checking google etc now |
| 21:41.40 | jacques | would be good news if ture |
| 21:41.44 | jacques | true |
| 21:42.26 | GPSFan | jacques: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/802.11g/ |
| 21:43.49 | jacques | maybe referring to this: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3478819921.html |
| 21:44.16 | jacques | GPSFan: wow! where did you find that? |
| 21:44.40 | GPSFan | jacques: some mail list I'm on, came across yesterday.. |
| 21:44.45 | jacques | cool cool cool |
| 21:45.10 | jacques | first atheros and now prism GT |
| 21:45.13 | CosmicPenguin | Ohh... I want one |
| 21:45.26 | jacques | tho Atheros still as binary component - wonder if this does |
| 21:46.20 | GPSFan | jacques: the isl8393 plus those drivers plus linux will make a real sweet system! |
| 21:47.20 | jacques | definitely! |
| 21:47.29 | flyback | I just got a ton of old isa nic's today |
| 21:47.35 | flyback | don't ask :P |
| 21:47.42 | flyback | canuck as a verb |
| 21:47.43 | flyback | :P |
| 21:47.52 | flyback | intel isa etherexpress 8/16's |
| 21:47.59 | flyback | total pos's when it comes to using it as a nic |
| 21:48.09 | flyback | but it supports and can flash program a eeprom for a bootrom |
| 21:48.24 | flyback | you can embed small programs in a bootrom and the pc will boot that on power up |
| 21:49.20 | GPSFan | jacques: Ti too... http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 22:02.46 | file-mctnlug | flyback: EBay? |
| 22:02.57 | flyback | I doubt any of it is worth ebay even :P |
| 22:03.04 | file-mctnlug | never know |
| 22:03.06 | file-mctnlug | sell it in bulk |
| 22:03.37 | flyback | I might try to sell the 2 laptop lcd's I have and I have 32 16x1 character lcd's |
| 22:03.54 | flyback | 4 bit mode only though and I can't id what chip they use because it's "GLOB LOGIC" |
| 22:11.44 | flyback | crap |
| 22:12.31 | CosmicPenguin | flyback: those ISA network cards would be good for the Webpals |
| 22:12.40 | CosmicPenguin | If people don't already have them |
| 22:12.56 | flyback | well those are for my flash roms |
| 22:13.02 | flyback | they are extremely buggy dude |
| 22:13.09 | flyback | that chipset had serious issues |
| 22:13.31 | flyback | I just want them so I can boot off a 32-128KB flash chip |
| 22:15.57 | flyback | someone already wrote 2 vt100 terminal programs that don't even need dos |
| 22:16.06 | flyback | by my goal is memtest86 |
| 22:16.14 | flyback | hopefully I can use compression somehow |
| 22:19.21 | flyback | so I can turn a old 486 into a dedicated 30 pin simm tester |
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| 22:44.22 | prpplague | evening all |
| 22:44.27 | kergoth | hey dave |
| 22:45.26 | prpplague | kergoth: hey |
| 22:45.32 | prpplague | kergoth: we having fun yet? |
| 22:45.46 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm dying to find out who they hired, lol |
| 22:45.56 | kergoth | got another 20 or so todo items added to my list today |
| 22:46.01 | kergoth | but only 5 are left, so getting there |
| 22:46.05 | kergoth | yeah sorry to hear about that, that sucks |
| 22:48.45 | prpplague | kergoth: lol, np, at least who ever beat me out of it was big wig, lol |
| 22:49.07 | prpplague | kergoth: no like i was beat out by george |
| 22:49.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:49.12 | prpplague | s/no/not |
| 22:49.13 | kergoth | true that |
| 22:49.37 | prpplague | kergoth: got a nice new sharp dev board on the way |
| 22:49.42 | kergoth | oh really? |
| 22:49.46 | prpplague | kergoth: haven't even got the specs yet |
| 22:50.06 | prpplague | kergoth: sharp rep was interested in seeing if i could get linux running on it in a short period of time |
| 22:50.58 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:52.35 | prpplague | kergoth: ya, just gonna have to stick with the ABCS thing for awhile, and do the embedded stuff by night :( |
| 22:53.40 | kergoth | yeah, know how it is. same shit i was doin at digi |
| 22:54.13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: fun stuff |
| 22:55.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i'm just gonna work on my skills getting linux running on new platforms quickly |
| 22:55.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats the most fun of all... :) |
| 22:56.08 | prpplague | i new to get some more experience with the stuff like the ts support and audio |
| 22:56.16 | prpplague | s/new/need |
| 22:56.22 | prpplague | btw |
| 22:56.37 | prpplague | kergoth: hows the sdc stuff going? |
| 22:56.49 | kergoth | sdc? |
| 22:57.03 | prpplague | kergoth: still peeking/poking as us old basic guys say |
| 22:57.16 | prpplague | kergoth: i thought you were doing some sd card hacking |
| 22:57.21 | kergoth | ah, yeah |
| 22:57.23 | prpplague | for the collie |
| 22:57.32 | kergoth | got distracted by the touchscreen adn some minor bugs |
| 22:57.38 | prpplague | ah |
| 22:57.48 | kergoth | I have the english chapter on the sharp locomo chip SPI interface |
| 22:57.55 | kergoth | so it shouldnt be that tough to add the slot driver |
| 23:03.22 | prpplague | kergoth: good luck |
| 23:03.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you gonna be pretty busy for a few weeks? |
| 23:04.39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: until Aug 15th |
| 23:05.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but I owe you, so if you need anything, let me know |
| 23:09.31 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 23:11.00 | prpplague | chouimat: hey there |
| 23:11.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just thinking out loud |
| 23:11.21 | chouimat | prpplague: any news? |
| 23:11.37 | prpplague | chouimat: no luck, someone beat me out on the job |
| 23:11.52 | chouimat | prpplague: which job? |
| 23:11.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: since i am now stuck with my boring server/pos stuff |
| 23:12.16 | prpplague | chouimat: got called for a TI job, but didn't get it |
| 23:12.34 | chouimat | prpplague: you got called ;) |
| 23:12.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think i might try to some docs together on the different aspects of embedded linux |
| 23:13.03 | prpplague | s/to/to get |
| 23:13.23 | chouimat | prpplague: got your T2? |
| 23:13.29 | prpplague | chouimat: not yet |
| 23:13.43 | prpplague | chouimat: i checked this morning, and it still had not shipped |
| 23:15.43 | prpplague | i wish i could get scanline to write up a nice doc on his ts techniques |
| 23:16.33 | kergoth | what ts techniques? dejitter? |
| 23:16.57 | chouimat | kergoth: nah screaming at it to get it working correctly ;) |
| 23:17.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:17.19 | kergoth | so scanline, exactly what words do you use when cursing at the ts? |
| 23:17.25 | kergoth | heheh |
| 23:17.33 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:17.48 | prpplague | yea, dejitter, calibration and such |
| 23:18.00 | kergoth | there are quite a few good sites on calibration algorithms |
| 23:18.05 | prpplague | ts and lcd programming is a real week point for me |
| 23:18.08 | kergoth | let me see if a good one is still in my bookmarks |
| 23:18.23 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks |
| 23:18.30 | kergoth | i should improve soon, i'm responsible for TS and an audio codec at ti (kernel drivers) |
| 23:18.35 | kergoth | my real weak point is hardware level stuff |
| 23:18.37 | prpplague | yikes |
| 23:18.40 | prpplague | cool |
| 23:19.03 | prpplague | kergoth: darn i wish i could ask you to do a write up but i know how those TI nda's are, lol |
| 23:19.28 | chouimat | prpplague: they are that bad? |
| 23:19.31 | kergoth | prpplague: nothing stopping me from pointing you to existing resources on on teh subject though |
| 23:22.01 | prpplague | kergoth: lol, thanks |
