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| 00:23.39 | sorphin | GPSFan: re |
| 00:23.57 | GPSFan | Hi dan, real dead today... |
| 00:26.03 | sorphin | yup |
| 00:26.49 | GPSFan | beautiful weather, niec weekend, ... |
| 00:27.07 | sorphin | nod |
| 00:27.08 | GPSFan | s/niece/nice... too much wine with dinner... |
| 00:27.23 | GPSFan | ;P |
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| 00:31.02 | GPSFan | oof, machine crashed... |
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| 07:08.47 | Russ | andersee: so did you still put all that stuff in at the office? |
| 07:09.21 | fontenot | hi andersee, are you really here? |
| 07:09.58 | andersee | morning |
| 07:10.07 | andersee | Russ: started to |
| 07:10.33 | andersee | Russ: My dad's been buggine me to do all that stuff for his office for months now |
| 07:11.03 | andersee | Russ: So yeah, I'll be finishing it all off. Though not quite a quickly... |
| 07:11.19 | andersee | And who know, there may yet be a lawsuit with Belkin and/or Buffalo |
| 07:11.32 | fontenot | any word from linksys ? |
| 07:11.34 | andersee | fontenot: howdy, and yup |
| 07:11.39 | andersee | fontenot: yup |
| 07:12.20 | fontenot | andersee: I've got your buildroot building ipaq initrd's |
| 07:12.24 | andersee | fontenot: finally heard from them on friday. They (cisco, who recently bought Linksys) are committed to honoring the GPL |
| 07:12.31 | andersee | fontenot: cool |
| 07:12.52 | fontenot | hit a few snags along the way but it's going well now |
| 07:13.06 | andersee | fontenot: anything I need to fix? |
| 07:13.12 | fontenot | 1) binutils 2.14 seems to break mon-i386 builds of the toolchain |
| 07:13.27 | fontenot | downgrading to 2.13.2.1 fixed it |
| 07:13.36 | fontenot | saw same issue in toolchain and buildroot |
| 07:14.02 | andersee | fontenot: hmm |
| 07:14.08 | andersee | good to know... |
| 07:14.27 | fontenot | I needed to add ADD_GCC_FUNCTIONS (or whatever it is) to not have the __udivsi3 symbol problem |
| 07:14.31 | andersee | guess I'll revert that then |
| 07:15.05 | fontenot | modprobe is claiming to fail even when it succeeds but I may just need a newer snap _ i see you updated that recently |
| 07:15.09 | andersee | Anybody here tried the dropbear ssh server? |
| 07:15.12 | andersee | http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html |
| 07:15.23 | fontenot | tho I do have a snap from friday so... |
| 07:15.31 | fontenot | maybe it's not totally fixed |
| 07:15.37 | andersee | 110k staticly linked vs uClibc, and doesn't need openssl... |
| 07:15.52 | fontenot | interesting |
| 07:16.06 | andersee | fontenot: yeah, thats a recently fixed busybox bug |
| 07:16.41 | fontenot | andersee: how recently ? how can I tell if I have the fix ? |
| 07:17.11 | fontenot | also, there is no reboot in busybox ? or am I missing it? |
| 07:17.48 | andersee | fontenot: Fri Jun 20 09:57:30 2003 UTC was the fix to modutils |
| 07:17.52 | andersee | fontenot: ? |
| 07:18.11 | fontenot | I want reboot in my initrd but I dont know what to use |
| 07:18.12 | andersee | fontenot: There is a reboot. It is disabled though if you do not enable busybox init |
| 07:18.19 | fontenot | ah OK |
| 07:18.41 | fontenot | I think I had to disable that to stop it overwriting my linuxrc |
| 07:18.53 | fontenot | with a symlink to busybox |
| 07:19.33 | andersee | fontenot: just disable CONFIG_FEATURE_INITRD for that |
| 07:20.29 | fontenot | i noticed a lot of configs arent in the menuconfig ? like the ADD_GCC_FUNCTIONS ? there are 2 config files for busybox? |
| 07:21.06 | andersee | ADD_GCC_FUNCTIONS is a uClibc option |
| 07:21.52 | fontenot | d'oh sorry |
| 07:22.04 | fontenot | :-) |
| 07:25.39 | fontenot | andersee: what does CONFIG_FEATURE_INITRD actually do ? |
| 07:26.21 | fontenot | oh heh - support running init from within an initrd |
| 07:26.27 | fontenot | hmm |
| 07:27.38 | andersee | fontenot: 1) it adds the /linuxrc symlink , 2) it causes busybox to run init when run as /linuxrc, and 3) it changes reboot, halt, and poweroff to cope with init not being pid 1 (which is what happens with an initrd) |
| 07:28.18 | fontenot | ah thank |
| 07:28.19 | fontenot | s |
| 07:31.47 | Russ | fontenot: whatever one can do to avoid the openssl license |
| 07:39.23 | fontenot | why does everyone mount devpts *and* devfs? I thought devfs did its own pts management |
| 07:39.40 | fontenot | well everyone but gentoo |
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| 07:41.01 | fontenot | hmg modprobe is still claiming to fail |
| 08:37.22 | Russ | 0 OHM, 5% 1/8W, SMT 0805 |
| 08:59.03 | fontenot | supercondictors |
| 08:59.07 | fontenot | superconductors |
| 09:43.54 | Russ | fontenot: whats 5% of 0? |
| 09:45.16 | fontenot | 0 |
| 09:45.53 | fontenot | so those are true 0 ohm resistors which means no resistance which means superconductor |
| 09:47.23 | Russ | don't forget its +/- 5% |
| 09:47.50 | fontenot | any percentage of 0 is 0 |
| 09:48.21 | Russ | so its +0 or -0 |
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| 10:39.46 | fontenot | heh looks like busybox 'top' doesn't know about swap ? |
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| 14:24.18 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:24.49 | sorphin | man |
| 14:25.02 | sorphin | i read the LRP bit and all the commends that follow |
| 14:25.07 | sorphin | man that dude is pissy |
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| 14:30.09 | kergoth | ibot: monday |
| 14:30.10 | | from memory, monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon, or a day requiring the use of large amounts of drugs |
| 14:35.20 | sorphin | who the fsck added that drugs comment? i dont' remember it being there before |
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| 14:38.36 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: be sure to read the bitter old LRP post *t* |
| 14:38.39 | sorphin | *g* even |
| 14:39.36 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:41.23 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what a whiner |
| 14:49.56 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yup, the comments have been amusing too, one of the few times i've read comments |
| 14:51.40 | CosmicPenguin | If you offer your code to the world, then you cannot possibly expect to see any monetary credit |
| 14:51.53 | CosmicPenguin | If you think so, then you shouldn't be offering your code in the first place |
| 14:54.21 | sorphin | i thought it was funny he tried to poke at lineo/embedix and caldera, 2 non existant companies now *g* |
| 14:56.47 | sorphin | heh, cute.. "what's that smell under that bridge? oooh a bridge troll" heh |
| 15:01.08 | sorphin | he even commented himself and whined s'more |
| 15:02.14 | CosmicPenguin | URL? |
| 15:02.36 | CosmicPenguin | I don't want to read this whole thing - its all either "This guy is an idot" or "GPL sucks - its runing the world" |
| 15:02.41 | sorphin | just search the comments for Diesel Dave (it's on another screen" |
| 15:02.51 | sorphin | so i can't paste the link |
| 15:02.53 | sorphin | erm |
| 15:02.57 | sorphin | nother machine even |
| 15:05.18 | CosmicPenguin | I love that dumbass that made a sympathetic response full of big words, and the ended it by quoting "Head of State" |
| 15:05.34 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:06.04 | sorphin | and apparently as so many ppl have pointd out, it's not really dead, just all the people that got fed up w/ whiner dave went off and started LEAF |
| 15:06.10 | sorphin | ages ago |
| 15:06.31 | sorphin | and i love this guy's "feature list for 5.0 that we'll never see" |
| 15:06.36 | CosmicPenguin | THe best " So exactly what the hell have you been eating that takes more than a 'few thousand dollars' a month?" |
| 15:10.55 | sorphin | hehe |
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| 15:14.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: sadly, I have karma coming out of my ears |
| 15:14.24 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I get mod points about twice a month |
| 15:14.44 | CosmicPenguin | Now you know what I did during the down times at Century |
| 15:17.42 | CosmicPenguin | I event posted an "Ask Slashdot" one time, it got 900 comments, and had a story written about it in the local newspaper |
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| 15:25.26 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:25.51 | sorphin | and yes, it is sad :P |
| 15:26.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: Do you remember the CEO from Iomega that basically blamed the death of the company on the culture in Utah? |
| 15:27.28 | sorphin | nope, never have heard anything bout iomega, all i know is their zip drives are a joke |
| 15:27.29 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: anyway, I asked slashdot if it was true that the Utah culture discouraged geeks from moving here |
| 15:27.52 | CosmicPenguin | And thats why the newspaper picked it up, because pretty much the majority response was "yes it does" |
| 15:27.58 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:28.10 | CosmicPenguin | And if you see the way the damn BYUers bungled the SCO protest on Friday, you would agree... :( |
| 15:28.28 | kergoth | anyone have a debian chroot env laying around? |
| 15:28.35 | sorphin | kergoth: nah, you'd just move to TX :P |
| 15:28.43 | kergoth | heheh |
| 15:29.04 | levi | CosmicPenguin: How'd they bungle the protest? I didn't hear much about it except that it sort of happened. |
| 15:29.08 | kergoth | sorphin: hey, i just follow the money, what can i say |
| 15:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | levi: it seems that the SCO employees "joined" the protest, and made everyone look stupid |
| 15:29.50 | CosmicPenguin | levi: I guess McBride was hanging out with the protesters, and there are some pictures with his arms around them |
| 15:30.24 | CosmicPenguin | levi: also, somebody told me that SCO handed out drinks and stuff |
| 15:30.32 | levi | Heh. |
| 15:30.44 | sorphin | i thought the anti protest signs were pathetic |
| 15:30.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 15:30.47 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway - I didn't go, so I guess I can't complain |
| 15:31.15 | levi | You couldn't expect BYU students to know anything about protest or activism, though. |
| 15:33.35 | levi | Not exactly part of the school culture. |
| 15:37.09 | CosmicPenguin | levi: No, but they are very experienced at convincing people to see things their way |
| 15:37.21 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe if we sent the protesters in pairs, it would work better... :) |
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| 15:48.14 | sorphin | sjhill: morning whore, mips whore. |
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| 15:50.10 | sorphin | TomW: got a friend working on the picprg code for me :P |
| 15:51.47 | TomW | heh |
| 15:52.31 | sjhill | sorphin: hey putz |
| 15:52.34 | sjhill | hi TomW |
| 15:53.28 | TomW | sjhill: so, your name is "putz" now, eh? |
| 15:53.44 | sjhill | bah |
| 15:54.05 | TomW | sjhill: some people just cannot command any respect.. |
| 15:55.09 | TomW | I'm tired of waiting for that guy to send me the data I need on his Fire Panel. So, I am pulling his eprom out, reading the contents, then run the 'strings' command over it to see if I can glean what I need from the eprom. |
| 16:04.07 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - bad choice of words on the title here: http://www.expatica.com/francemain.asp?pad=285,310,&item_id=32173 |
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| 18:02.47 | TomW | talk about a fscking brain dead o/s! I have been spending the last half hour trying to get win2k to install 2 serial ports: com1 & com2! Peice of garbage o/s wants to map them out as com5 & com7 and flag them as conflicted! |
| 18:03.42 | TomW | maybe I should hang a peice of crystal over the computer and chant incantations? |
| 18:04.08 | kergoth | do you have a goat and a sharp knife handy? |
| 18:05.29 | TomW | kergoth: ? ... yesss... |
| 18:05.36 | TomW | heh |
| 18:05.42 | kergoth | then you're set., |
| 18:05.45 | kergoth | heheh. |
| 18:06.27 | TomW | peice of shit is what this thing is. I finally have a working(?) com1 & com2, wonder if they'll still be there when it reboots? Here goes... |
| 18:10.28 | TomW | ok, the stupid thing gives me: com1, com2, com5, com7 with com5 & com7 conflicted as "their" resources are in use by com1 & com2. |
| 18:11.23 | TomW | Now how heck do those idiots at Micro$oft figure that a computer that has only two serial interfaces in it would pose such a problem for them to install the hardware? |
| 18:12.20 | TomW | Intellectually-challenged, self-pleasuring individuals that they are, must make sense to them somehow. |
| 18:13.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:13.04 | sorphin | never had that prob :P |
| 18:13.36 | TomW | sorphin: what? Not running windoze, or installing windoze 2k? |
| 18:15.22 | TomW | sorphin: Ok, I know what my problem is here: I expected the people at Micro$oft to have a clue as to what they are doing, they do have a clue, they designed their o/s so that I will have to call them, pay $249 to the answer. |
| 18:21.37 | sorphin | TomW: no, what i was saying is my serial ports came up as com1 and com2 w/ no probs :P |
| 18:22.06 | sorphin | TomW: maybe they just knows you're easily irritable? |
| 18:22.14 | TomW | prolly |
| 18:22.57 | TomW | sorphin: naw, it only took me 30 minutes and 5..7 reboots before I got pissed! |
| 18:23.10 | sorphin | TomW: that's why your pill cup every day ;) |
| 18:23.45 | sorphin | the only time i've had a prob |
| 18:23.53 | sorphin | is when i've moved the slot my ether is in |
| 18:24.03 | sorphin | and didn't uninstall the device in windows before hand |
| 18:24.08 | sorphin | and it came up w/ a #2 |
| 18:24.36 | sorphin | and so the non #2 which i couldn't find w/o digging, still held the ip |
| 18:25.13 | TomW | AH! I found my problem! |
| 18:25.49 | TomW | I expected this to work "correctly"... |
| 18:52.20 | sorphin | TomW: nah, you're just a naive senile old man ;) |
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| 23:36.01 | CosmicPenguin | Whew - my power went out at 12:30 - just got it back |
| 23:39.41 | jacques | :-( |
| 23:39.45 | jacques | i hate that |