| 00:07.52 | jnork | They're fluxing off! |
| 00:33.46 | GPSFan | Russ: I've used those squeeze bottles before, the alcohol based flux is really sticky, the alcohol evaporates rapidly leavingyou with a sticky mess. never used the water based stuff, it might be better. |
| 00:34.43 | GPSFan | Russ: skilled rework people are probably a lot more skilled in it's use than I am though. ;>) |
| 01:52.30 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 01:52.43 | file | g'night |
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| 07:26.05 | Russ | hmm...today is the 16th |
| 07:26.26 | fontenot | yes |
| 07:26.28 | Russ | let the injunction and punitive damages begin! |
| 07:26.45 | fontenot | against linksys ? |
| 07:26.51 | Russ | sure |
| 07:27.00 | Russ | we can do belkin and buffalo too if you are in a bad mood |
| 07:27.07 | fontenot | did those bastages ever reply to you and andersee ? |
| 07:27.17 | Russ | not to my knoledge |
| 07:27.27 | Russ | I went to fry's today and it really pissed me off |
| 07:27.51 | Russ | you turn the box over and it lists all these bulleted features that are provided specifically by gpl projects, including mine |
| 07:27.54 | fontenot | oh I had thought of a couple more brands to look at - like SMC |
| 07:27.56 | Russ | big bold bullets I tell you |
| 07:28.59 | fontenot | they will *not* get away with this |
| 07:30.00 | fontenot | recompiling my kernel without module versioning, which is apparently a bad thing now |
| 07:33.32 | Russ | shrug, I don't pay much attention to modversions or whatever that module stuff is |
| 07:35.18 | fontenot | well apparently bigmem and modversions dont get along |
| 07:35.29 | fontenot | I am unable to load any fs modules |
| 07:36.04 | fontenot | they all complain about unresolved symbols: kunmap_high highmem_start_page kmap_high |
| 08:04.28 | Russ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:17.05 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:25.38 | file | hi chouimat |
| 12:37.13 | file | chouimat: what's up? |
| 12:42.06 | chouimat | work work work and work and maybe 15 minutes to do some boxes today before the ozzyy show |
| 12:42.28 | file | chouimat: haha |
| 12:43.15 | chouimat | file: go read usefriendly and dilbert |
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| 13:56.24 | chouimat|phone | someone here know something about adsl modem? |
| 13:56.39 | file | chouimat|phone: yes? |
| 13:56.55 | file | chouimat|phone: what do you want to know? |
| 13:57.01 | chouimat|phone | file: http://www.kantron.net/adsl.htm <--- which one is the best |
| 13:57.25 | file | I have had no experience with any of those |
| 13:57.30 | chouimat|phone | ok |
| 13:57.37 | file | go for external, not internal |
| 13:57.44 | chouimat|phone | file: I know |
| 13:57.46 | file | ethernet not USB |
| 13:58.16 | chouimat|phone | file: my router doesn't have usb on it so ... |
| 13:58.31 | file | 3Com is a well known company... |
| 13:58.55 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 13:59.02 | chouimat|phone | hey CosmicPenguin |
| 13:59.49 | file | chouimat|phone: I'd say 3Com. |
| 13:59.57 | file | I haven't heard of this other company |
| 14:00.18 | chouimat|phone | file: me too |
| 14:00.42 | CosmicPenguin | How is everyone this beautiful June morning? |
| 14:00.56 | file | CosmicPenguin: irritated, I called about my job interview and got forwarded to voicemail |
| 14:01.40 | CosmicPenguin | file: bastards! |
| 14:01.55 | file | oh well... |
| 14:02.23 | file | and my KDE is mostly compiled, just compiling stuff I'll never use right now |
| 14:02.30 | chouimat|phone | CosmicPenguin: trying to decide which modem to buy: http://www.kantron.net/adsl.htm |
| 14:03.03 | file | chouimat|phone: my modem is included in the monthly fee |
| 14:03.13 | file | just if I don't return it after my service is up... it's $250 |
| 14:03.21 | chouimat|phone | file: I'm buying one |
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| 14:05.25 | chouimat|phone | morning sieve |
| 14:06.38 | sieve | morining chouimat|phone and everyone else |
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| 14:11.55 | file | hi Tim |
| 14:11.57 | chouimat|phone | hi tim |
| 14:12.59 | chouimat|phone | TimRiker: know something about adsl modem? |
| 14:13.50 | chouimat|phone | CosmicPenguin: where i'm going I can't have it :( |
| 14:18.21 | TimRiker | chouimat|phone: yes. I have a cisco 675 and a alcaltel usb modem. one is CAP the other is DMT. I'm on cable (comcast) now though. |
| 14:18.50 | chouimat|phone | http://www.kantron.net/adsl.htm <--- which one I should take? |
| 14:21.43 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: hold |
| 14:22.22 | chouimat|phone | morning sorphin |
| 14:22.35 | TimRiker | http://store.yahoo.com/computerassets-store/3com3chomadm.html ? |
| 14:22.36 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: speedstream or westell |
| 14:22.44 | chouimat|phone | sorphin: not the 3com? |
| 14:22.57 | sorphin | for adsl? heh |
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| 14:23.05 | chouimat|phone | yup |
| 14:23.15 | sorphin | sjhill: morning MIPS'er |
| 14:23.22 | file | greetings Master MIPS |
| 14:23.25 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 14:23.26 | sjhill | hi file |
| 14:23.30 | chouimat|phone | sorphin: the speedstreams is usb so I can't take thise one |
| 14:23.51 | sorphin | sjhill: apparently Russ doesn't/didn't know you at one point worked for bcom |
| 14:23.57 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: ah, missed that detail |
| 14:24.03 | TimRiker | http://www.pcliquidations.com/item.asp?id=641 <- or that. |
| 14:24.13 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: westell them |
| 14:24.22 | TimRiker | chouimat|phone: but not the internal or USB versions. ethernet is your friend. |
| 14:24.57 | chouimat|phone | thanks ... I will call later today to get the service and a static ip |
| 14:25.30 | TimRiker | chouimat|phone: be sure they support you running your own modem before you decide to buy one. |
| 14:25.49 | chouimat|phone | TimRiker: I will buy one from the provider |
| 14:30.11 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: heh, roswell declassified, the truth abotu celine is out *g* |
| 14:31.19 | chouimat|phone | lmao!!! |
| 14:38.33 | TimRiker | chouimat|phone: hmm. you are willing to pay twice the price? for what? |
| 14:39.23 | chouimat|phone | TimRiker: the price are in CAD |
| 14:41.07 | TimRiker | ah. so it's not that bad. |
| 14:44.40 | kergoth | hey |
| 14:45.52 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: morning |
| 14:46.00 | kergoth | hows it goin? |
| 14:46.58 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: good |
| 14:47.07 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: so, when do you expect that OE will replace the current OZ infrastructure? |
| 14:49.07 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: That question is really twofold. There is, when will the new infrastructure be capable of replacing the old, and then there's how long will it take us to transition everything over :) |
| 14:51.34 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: I'd say 2 weeks at the outset for the former, another month for the latter. we have hundreds of packages that need moving over to the new format. While we can script getting the data over, it'll require a human to review every package |
| 14:51.56 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: wow? Its that close? |
| 14:52.13 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah, i'm spending a fair bit of time on it lately |
| 14:52.38 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: Just added an event handling core last night, so that we can bind actions to failure/success of builds at various points |
| 14:55.04 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: sweet. |
| 15:04.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: GTK works? *g* |
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| 15:14.01 | chouimat|phone | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1133 |
| 15:16.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it does not work well |
| 15:16.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: as i figured |
| 15:17.03 | chouimat|phone | http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=2963 |
| 15:17.05 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but everyone still glomes on to it like its the next coming |
| 15:17.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, it's better than things like QT,etc atleast, i think (tho not by much) |
| 15:18.15 | kergoth | sorphin: ever actually coded in Qt? |
| 15:18.38 | sorphin | kergoth: coded, no, looked at QT code, yes, and i'm not that sick :P |
| 15:19.20 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: i like that, portable dcast |
| 15:19.53 | chouimat|phone | sorphin: me too |
| 15:21.23 | sorphin | kergoth: i wanna know kergoth's take on that hybrid rom |
| 15:22.03 | CosmicPenguin | direct quote: " |
| 15:22.03 | CosmicPenguin | First release of our Hybrid ROM. Like Cacko/Crow ROM, this ROM mount /home at jffs2 partition. Unlike OZ, you can't easily kill the system ;-)" |
| 15:23.25 | kergoth | There are both advantages and disadvantages to a read only root filesystem |
| 15:23.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:24.45 | sorphin | the tivo uses a R/O root fs |
| 15:25.01 | sorphin | and has a disposable /var |
| 15:25.29 | kergoth | most commercial products use a r/o rootfs for a reason. without it, you dont have a clean slate to return to, generally |
| 15:26.05 | kergoth | downside is to allow package installs into normal locations you need a mess of links, ala embedix on teh Z |
| 15:26.13 | kergoth | since linux doesnt have union filesystems :( |
| 15:27.45 | chouimat|phone | kergoth: write one :) |
| 15:27.58 | sorphin | well, in tivo's case, things only change on sw updates, and w/ that, they created a new rootfs on the alternate partition, dump a new kernel to the alternate kernel spot, switch the boot pointer, and that's it |
| 15:28.05 | sorphin | speaking of kernels |
| 15:28.14 | sorphin | anyone tossed on 2.4.21 yet? |
| 15:28.32 | file | sorphin: yes |
| 15:28.45 | chouimat|phone | sorphin: using 2.4.21-ck1+aavm |
| 15:28.55 | kergoth | sorphin: i'm using 2.4.21-ck1+aavm here too |
| 15:28.55 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: wtf is all that? |
| 15:29.07 | kergoth | sorphin: ck is con kolivas' patchset |
| 15:29.07 | chouimat|phone | sorphin: hehe |
| 15:29.08 | sorphin | or keroth ,since i usually understand him ;) |
| 15:29.15 | kergoth | sorphin: made for interactivity |
| 15:29.20 | kergoth | sorphin: includes preempt, low latency, etc |
| 15:29.28 | kergoth | sorphin: some additional features like supermount and xfs as well |
| 15:29.41 | kergoth | aavm is andrea's VM patch, which imho performs better than ck's |
| 15:29.42 | sorphin | aha |
| 15:30.06 | sorphin | as for the VM |
| 15:30.19 | CosmicPenguin | How does it do for VIA chipsets? |
| 15:30.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: good Q |
| 15:30.56 | chouimat|phone | sorphin: ck1 have some problem with smp |
| 15:31.16 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: well, the only SMP box is my dual ppro box |
| 15:31.23 | kergoth | chouimat|phone: treke mentioned that his BUG()'d in the block layer |
| 15:31.35 | kergoth | chouimat|phone: and that it went away when he yanked the xfs patch |
| 15:31.35 | kergoth | fun stuff |
| 15:31.57 | chouimat|phone | kergoth: work well here on my p3 with reiserfs |
| 15:32.40 | kergoth | cool |
| 15:33.04 | sorphin | chouimat|phone: stop saying that word in here :P |
| 15:33.35 | sorphin | bad enough /. did an interview w/ the putz (or sent him Q's anyways) |
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| 15:38.47 | prpplague | howdy howdy howdy |
| 15:38.51 | prpplague | ibot: monday |
| 15:38.52 | | monday is probably when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon, or a day requiring the use of large amounts of drugs |
| 15:38.52 | file | hi prpplague |
| 15:39.19 | kergoth | ibot: mondays |
| 15:39.20 | | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
| 15:40.41 | sorphin | overload ::P |
| 15:40.49 | sorphin | prpplague: cwjamaica eh? |
| 15:40.55 | chouimat|phone | hey prpplague |
| 15:48.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague be jammin... :) |
| 15:55.03 | sorphin | s/jammin/drinking in excess as usual/ |
| 15:55.53 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, i wish |
| 15:56.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 15:56.20 | prpplague | sorphin: yep, in montego |
| 15:56.28 | sorphin | montego bay |
| 15:56.47 | sorphin | prpplague: finally you go to a place i've heard of *g* |
| 15:57.00 | sieve | prpplague: bastard |
| 15:57.31 | sorphin | sieve: well, they'd let you travel too if you took it up the arse as much as dave ;) |
| 15:58.13 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: the women are nice? |
| 15:58.21 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: nope |
| 15:59.29 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: I will bring you some pictures from prague |
| 15:59.50 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: coooool |
| 16:18.43 | kergoth | hrm |
| 16:23.25 | chouimat|lunch | kergoth: I have a ticket for the show of tonight in quebec city ;) |
| 16:24.27 | kergoth | chouimat|lunch: nice |
| 16:24.49 | chouimat|lunch | kergoth: and an extra oone if you want ;) |
| 16:25.12 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|lunch: thats the one with both Ozzie and his daughter, right? |
| 16:25.15 | file | chouimat|lunch: if I left now I could make it!!! maybe. |
| 16:25.41 | chouimat|lunch | CosmicPenguin: don't know ... the one with newsted (ex-metalllica) on the bass |
| 16:25.44 | chouimat|lunch | file: 19h00 |
| 16:25.46 | kergoth | packaging sucks |
| 16:26.11 | CosmicPenguin | GTK sucks |
| 16:26.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i wouldn't wanna see kelly *shiver* |
| 16:30.04 | chouimat|lunch | sorphin: hehe |
| 16:32.28 | chouimat|lunch | kergoth: ? |
| 16:33.05 | kergoth | chouimat|lunch: trying to get something done on a monday |
| 16:33.08 | kergoth | chouimat|lunch: i should know better |
| 16:36.07 | chouimat|lunch | kergoth: nothing better than 2 sardines' can and a bowl of spinash cream :) |
| 16:38.45 | chouimat|lunch | kergoth: btw ozzy is heavier than the new metallica |
| 17:09.29 | kergoth | woot. |
| 17:09.43 | kergoth | oemake properly follows interpackage dependencies, accomidating PROVIDES. |
| 17:09.57 | kergoth | now to add recursive dep and unsatisfied dep checks.. |
| 17:14.26 | kergoth | hmm, forgot to handle version specific vs nonversion specific build deps |
| 17:23.48 | sorphin | kergoth: prolly wouldn't be the 1st |
| 17:24.39 | Russ | sjhill: so can you get me product literature on the broadcom stuff? |
| 17:27.42 | sorphin | Russ: if it's in what he downloaded before he left *g* |
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| 17:35.28 | file | prpplague: wb |
| 17:37.09 | prpplague | thanks |
| 17:37.29 | prpplague | file: sieve finally got my firewall configured, lol |
| 17:37.59 | file | lol |
| 17:38.30 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:41.45 | prpplague | sorphin: adsl from hell |
| 17:45.27 | sieve | prpplague: it's the ppoa shits... |
| 17:47.38 | CosmicPenguin | peer to peer over appletalk? :) |
| 17:48.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ppp over ATM |
| 17:48.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I was being silly |
| 17:49.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh |
| 17:49.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: too tired |
| 17:50.13 | Russ | and another one bites the dust |
| 17:50.23 | Russ | the graphics market has narrowed, SiS is no more |
| 17:50.45 | Russ | (aka, XGI tech) |
| 17:51.56 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: ????? ?? ?????? ???? |
| 17:52.09 | Russ | er, thats probably utf8, not wide chars |
| 17:56.45 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: In default mode, GTK figures out wide chars by converting strings back and forth to TextProperty structures |
| 18:02.36 | sjhill | Russ: what are you bugging me about? |
| 18:08.15 | Russ | I'm here |
| 18:08.30 | Russ | I'm trying to find out what the root of all this belkin/linksys/buffalo thing is |
| 18:09.30 | Russ | all the firmwares are very similary, so I'm thinking that broadcom sold them GPL stuff under a different license |
| 18:10.43 | Russ | anyway, to get any product literature, you need an nda, and I don't even think they'll send me that |
| 18:13.04 | sjhill | they're using stuff i developed for uclibc when i was there |
| 18:13.20 | sjhill | the root filesystem and everything is based of uClinux-dist |
| 18:13.38 | sjhill | that's my best guess |
| 18:14.12 | sjhill | however, they have a proprietary application that has a webserver and configuration stuff all rolled into one |
| 18:14.21 | Russ | I saw that |
| 18:14.21 | sjhill | one binary i mean |
| 18:14.29 | sjhill | everything else is just standard |
| 18:14.34 | Russ | but every other component on there is GPL, BSD, or APSL |
| 18:14.57 | sjhill | so what's the issue? they used uClinux |
| 18:16.17 | sjhill | i realize GPL protection is the issue, but all you are going to get is the source they used to build the root filesystem and maybe the toolchain source |
| 18:16.33 | sjhill | they still get to keep the proprietary drivers and application |
| 18:27.49 | TimRiker | anyone know of any work to get a GSM/GPRS stack running on linux/rtlinux/rtai ? |
| 18:31.31 | prpplague | TimRiker: not i, but i know a guy i could ask about it |
| 18:33.06 | chouimat|away | TimRiker: I know someone at the local uni |
| 18:38.50 | file | silly me that's why DRI wouldn't compile, I don't have MTRR enabled |
| 18:43.20 | file | sorphin: I was in a hurry for a kernel, just put in the basics |
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| 18:45.23 | sorphin | file: heh, i always have 'basic configs' that i build all kernels from, and just work from there |
| 18:45.28 | sorphin | TomW: afternoon gramps |
| 18:45.34 | TomW | hello |
| 18:45.34 | chouimat | hey TomW |
| 18:45.51 | TimRiker | chouimat, prpplague: I'm interested in any/all leads. |
| 18:46.05 | sorphin | TomW: i won't need to make that board after all |
| 18:46.08 | TimRiker | prpplague: actually this is Eric that's asking. you could tell him directly. ;-) |
| 18:46.21 | TomW | sorphin: heh, solves your immediate problem then |
| 18:46.23 | chouimat | TimRiker: ok ... he's in vacation till last week of july or first of august |
| 18:46.43 | sorphin | TomW: yeah, bigbrd has some spares, gonna buy one of his |
| 18:46.49 | TimRiker | chouimat: ok. keep me posted. |
| 18:47.06 | chouimat | TimRiker: np |
| 18:47.20 | prpplague | TimRiker: ok, will do |
| 18:47.51 | TomW | sorphin: I am looking around for my electric cattle prod to use it on some support engineers at various companies. They owe me some data / software and I am stuck with work that needs to be completed and waiting on them.. |
| 18:48.22 | TomW | sorphin: I suppose I could take the day off? |
| 18:48.39 | TomW | sorphin: mow the lawn or something like that? |
| 18:49.37 | chouimat|palm | TomW: I taking the day off ... Ozzy show tonight |
| 18:50.05 | TomW | chouimat|palm: what's an "Ozzy"? |
| 18:50.15 | chouimat|palm | TomW: Ozzy Osbourne |
| 18:50.57 | chouimat|palm | TomW: I pay 70cad to have a ticket |
| 18:51.05 | sorphin | TomW: uh.. heavy metal music |
| 18:51.10 | TomW | ow |
| 18:51.15 | sorphin | TomW: not the osbournes tv show |
| 18:51.26 | sorphin | silly old man |
| 18:51.38 | chouimat|palm | sorphin: that will be better than celine |
| 18:51.40 | TomW | well, I guess, it is a "cult-ural experience"? |
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| 18:52.06 | TomW | uh-oh, double Daves.. |
| 18:52.07 | sorphin | uh oh, the plague is speading.. well... like the plague |
| 18:52.19 | TomW | bit rot |
| 18:52.21 | kergoth | damnit |
| 18:52.24 | kergoth | i hate it when i forgot to eat |
| 18:52.30 | sorphin | kergoth: heh |
| 18:52.38 | kergoth | s/forgot/forget/ |
| 18:52.39 | sorphin | kergoth: must not be hungry |
| 18:52.40 | chouimat|palm | don't know why but I have a picture of prpplague^2 (in my mind) with a huge join doing IRC |
| 18:52.54 | prpplague^2 | lol |
| 18:53.06 | chouimat|palm | ;) |
| 18:53.07 | sorphin | chouimat|palm: huh? try that in english ;P |
| 18:53.20 | prpplague^2 | chouimat|palm: no problems mon |
| 18:53.21 | chouimat|palm | sorphin: bah! |
| 18:53.41 | sorphin | chouimat|palm: i seriously didn't understand what you meant :P |
| 18:54.10 | kergoth | i didnt understand it either, and i'm usually pretty good at understanding chouimatese |
| 18:54.12 | TomW | "with a huge join doing IRC" |
| 18:54.28 | TomW | join / joint? |
| 18:54.36 | chouimat|palm | weed |
| 18:54.45 | sorphin | ugh |
| 18:55.33 | sorphin | kergoth: well, i don't care for drugs/drug use/people that use them, so... |
| 18:56.20 | kergoth | heh, to each his own |
| 18:56.41 | sorphin | chouimat|palm: btw.. look at news on lik-sang article 2954 |
| 18:56.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:56.49 | sorphin | goes along w/ the dreamcast bit |
| 18:56.56 | chouimat|palm | url? |
| 18:57.06 | sorphin | chouimat|palm: take the one you pasted |
| 18:57.09 | TomW | sorphin: I don't mind that other people do drugs, it just that they shouldn't be driving a car or commiting crimes that bother me. |
| 18:57.20 | sorphin | and change the article # to 2954, or just look at the stories for Jun 7 |
| 18:57.58 | sorphin | TomW: well, have you ever dated someone that has done them? :P i unfortunately have dated someone who was a pot user.. never ever again |
| 18:58.14 | kergoth | sorphin: my ex- sold it |
| 18:58.19 | kergoth | sorphin: that was interesting |
| 18:58.34 | kergoth | especially since i was anti-drugs at the time |
| 18:58.34 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, my ex-wife, but, at the time I was doing them myself. no more though. |
| 18:58.58 | sorphin | kergoth: and you smoked it, right? :P~ |
| 18:59.09 | kergoth | sorphin: eventually. she corrupted me. sniffle. |
| 18:59.12 | sorphin | TomW: lemme guess.. the 70s? |
| 18:59.14 | kergoth | sorphin: hehe |
| 18:59.21 | TomW | sorphin: yeah |
| 18:59.35 | sorphin | "Free Love Man" |
| 18:59.38 | TomW | "lotta drugs man" |
| 18:59.40 | chouimat|palm | sorphin: ouch |
| 18:59.55 | TomW | "lotta drugs, man" |
| 19:00.01 | sorphin | chouimat|palm: eh? |
| 19:00.37 | chouimat|palm | http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=2954 |
| 19:00.44 | chouimat|palm | sorphin: ^--------------------^ |
| 19:01.02 | TomW | I don't know if I should be here talking with you guys |
| 19:01.19 | sorphin | chouimat|palm: how is that ouch? :P |
| 19:01.20 | kergoth | TomW: why? |
| 19:01.22 | sorphin | TomW: how's that? |
| 19:01.30 | TomW | I have bronchitis and really should be carefull not to give it any of you |
| 19:01.33 | chouimat|palm | sorphin: :) |
| 19:01.42 | sorphin | TomW: uhhhhhhh |
| 19:01.45 | TomW | ? |
| 19:01.54 | TomW | ;) |
| 19:02.53 | sorphin | TomW: ah, because of many dead braincells ? |
| 19:03.02 | TomW | short circuits |
| 19:03.13 | sorphin | that too |
| 19:03.19 | sorphin | TomW: speaking of short ckts btw |
| 19:03.31 | TomW | your PCB? |
| 19:03.34 | sorphin | TomW: looked at your scope at all or is it just hopeless/looked at any on ebay yet? |
| 19:03.50 | TomW | naw, it is toast afaiac |
| 19:04.01 | sorphin | :-( |
| 19:04.40 | TomW | I got good use out of it, I need something faster anyway for some of the work I have coming up. |
| 19:04.42 | sorphin | TomW: i still have yet to do much w/ mine |
| 19:04.59 | sorphin | TomW: when russ had me try measuring something, was a bit weird |
| 19:05.22 | TomW | triggering is an artform |
| 19:05.32 | sorphin | oh, triggered fine |
| 19:05.41 | sorphin | just was a lil surprised at the waveform i was seeing |
| 19:06.06 | TomW | it wasn't a square wave, eh? |
| 19:06.23 | sorphin | TomW: twas quite a dirty one |
| 19:06.53 | TomW | that is why I refer to an electronic circuit as a "breathing, live, thing". |
| 19:07.08 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:07.29 | TomW | there is a lot happening on a bus that you have to consider, not just the 1 |
| 19:07.45 | TomW | 's and 0's, but the "breaths" between them. |
| 19:08.00 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:08.44 | TomW | switching transients, crosstalk, inductive kick, capacitive & inductive impedances, ... |
| 19:09.11 | sorphin | 60hz humm floating around you |
| 19:09.45 | TomW | only if you forget to attach the ground lead of the scope to the device under test... |
| 19:09.53 | TomW | heh |
| 19:10.30 | sorphin | TomW: i've seen it before even w/ that done |
| 19:10.56 | TomW | uh-oh, lost both Dave's now. |
| 19:11.16 | sorphin | well, 2nd one he left on his own |
| 19:11.22 | TomW | Earth to Dave, Earth to Dave, ..., come in Dave... |
| 19:13.06 | sorphin | prolly off to consume beer |
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| 19:13.21 | TomW | ok, I have sent a list of questions to the people at Mircom.. It will take them a couple of weeks to not respond to them, so I should break that test setup down and select something else to work on.. |
| 19:13.26 | TomW | Earth to Dave, Earth to Dave, ..., come in Dave... |
| 19:13.52 | TomW | Can you hear me now, Dave? |
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| 19:56.18 | dmitri | has anyone here any exp with rtai? |
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| 20:01.59 | CosmicPenguin | Realtime AI? |
| 20:02.28 | Russ | sjhill: they did not use proprietary application |
| 20:02.29 | Russ | s |
| 20:02.56 | Russ | when you pick up the box and read the bulleted list of features, most of the bullets are for GPL applications |
| 20:03.18 | Russ | TomW: btw, be sure to wash your hands before using the keyboard |
| 20:03.29 | TomW | k |
| 20:03.54 | TomW | I did sneeze on the crt a couple of times though.. |
| 20:06.57 | Russ | does your monitor cable have filters on it? |
| 20:07.01 | chouimat|palm | http://bash.org/?369 |
| 20:17.21 | Russ | sjhill: actually, that may be true |
| 20:17.21 | Russ | sjhill: it looks like the modifications in udhcp are completely dissimilar between the 3 vendors |
| 20:17.21 | Russ | sjhill: but the basic structure of the firmware is the same |
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| 20:43.10 | DCipher | hi all |
| 20:45.42 | DCipher | TimRiker: you there? |
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| 21:50.57 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 22:08.07 | sorphin | i did too |
| 22:10.49 | TimRiker | DCipher: now, but leaving. sup? |
| 22:36.54 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - when sombody with a *.sco.com address logs on to IRC and asks what time the stock market opens, that makes you sit up and take note...:) |
| 22:40.53 | jacques | lol |
| 22:52.25 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: time for insider trading? |
| 22:52.39 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: we got the pump, when is the dump? |
| 22:55.55 | jacques | market is closed now right? |
| 23:04.53 | CosmicPenguin | Well, he was just trying to settle an interoffice debate, but still... :) |
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