| 00:08.45 | Russ | "note: the nWBE signal is operated only at coriting operation." |
| 00:08.54 | CosmicPenguin | grr.. lack of motivation sucks |
| 00:09.50 | Russ | you think its maybe s/co/w/? |
| 00:10.13 | Russ | hmmm |
| 00:26.17 | sorphin | locates one? |
| 00:28.35 | file | chouimat: food? |
| 00:30.51 | chouimat | file: yes ... i'm back |
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| 03:08.58 | sorphin | GPSFan: evening |
| 03:12.13 | GPSFan | sorphin: hi dan, how goes your programmer? |
| 03:14.47 | sorphin | GPSFan: slowly atm |
| 03:21.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: need to grab a max232 |
| 03:21.43 | chouimat | sorphin: buy one |
| 03:23.15 | sorphin | chou; uhh |
| 03:23.19 | sorphin | no shit sherlock |
| 03:23.26 | chouimat | sorphin: :) |
| 03:23.33 | sorphin | chouimat: i was telling GPSFan what the holdup was :P |
| 03:23.41 | sorphin | chouimat: now go back to listening to celine |
| 03:24.16 | chouimat | sorphin: celine is bad music ... |
| 03:24.41 | sorphin | 'i should send you this old cd i found, to torture you :P |
| 03:25.14 | chouimat | sorphin: I need to get Hail Santa and I have the complete Primus collection in ogg |
| 03:25.23 | sorphin | nod.. |
| 03:26.42 | chouimat | sorphin: programmer for what? |
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| 03:41.38 | chouimat | grrr my irc client just froze |
| 03:41.45 | sorphin | chouimat: it was a netsplit |
| 03:42.06 | chouimat | sorphin: ok I saw nothing here |
| 03:42.28 | chouimat | sorphin: programmer for webpal rom? |
| 03:42.31 | sorphin | well, use a non windows client, and you would |
| 03:42.33 | sorphin | and yes |
| 03:43.16 | chouimat | sorphin: how long between the netsplit and me back? |
| 03:43.35 | sorphin | few mins |
| 03:43.48 | chouimat | grrr need to fix that kvirc3 |
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| 13:11.43 | TomW | sorphin: are you planning on using fiberglass PCB material for your boards? |
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| 14:14.40 | sorphin | TomW: umm.. yeah normal pcboard stock, was just cheap cuz it was surplus doublesided, and they just gave me a price on it |
| 14:15.50 | cosmic_afk | Morning |
| 14:17.26 | CosmicPenguin | SCO is suing Novell too |
| 14:19.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: SCO is gonna disappear soon enough, i read the article, it didn't actually say they're suing novell (unless there's another article i missed since last night) |
| 14:22.46 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah - you're right |
| 14:23.09 | CosmicPenguin | They might as well sue Novell - I would go down to Provo/Orem just to watch them throw rocks at each other |
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| 14:23.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: as far as i'm concerned, anyone named Darl deserves to be shot |
| 14:23.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: I guess he can't pronounce/spell Daryl |
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| 14:28.38 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:30.09 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: one thing is sure - this will get funnier before it goes away |
| 14:30.17 | CosmicPenguin | or if you wish s/funnier/scarier/ |
| 14:33.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: or s/scarier/more pathetic/ |
| 14:33.27 | jnork | It's already too pathetic for words. |
| 14:33.45 | sorphin | jnork: good point |
| 14:33.52 | sorphin | i like what linus said |
| 14:34.09 | sorphin | it's like a jerry sprinter episode, and SCO is mad cuz of IBM's other women |
| 14:35.20 | chouimat | sorphin: wow that a very good analogy |
| 14:36.06 | sorphin | chouimat: blame linus |
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| 14:40.13 | sieve | moring all |
| 14:40.20 | sorphin | sieve: and there's one abcsinc'er |
| 14:43.38 | sieve | sorphin: the other one is here but someone is up his butt at the moment. |
| 14:44.05 | chouimat | sieve: poor someone or poor other one? |
| 14:45.32 | sieve | both.... |
| 14:47.53 | chouimat | sieve: btw the build of sunday night is now in production |
| 14:48.22 | chouimat | sieve: and working a1 ... |
| 14:49.41 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 14:50.06 | kergoth | mornin |
| 14:50.30 | CosmicPenguin | Uh-oh. |
| 14:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | Bad news on the pixil front |
| 14:54.08 | kergoth | ? |
| 14:56.19 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: the project was cancelled? |
| 14:58.46 | CosmicPenguin | Looks like it |
| 14:59.33 | sorphin | sieve: someone's always up dave's butt, that's what he gets for being a corporate whore |
| 14:59.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: doh |
| 14:59.46 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: meaning no source? |
| 15:00.00 | sorphin | aka greg's wandering it off to lala land |
| 15:00.24 | CosmicPenguin | Oh well |
| 15:00.28 | chouimat | sorphin: stupid question : where is lala land |
| 15:01.09 | sorphin | chouimat: nowhere, aka where people would like to send celine, into nowhere/nothingness |
| 15:01.28 | chouimat | sorphin: ok the Void |
| 15:02.09 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that' sucks, he won't opensource it or something instead of just putting it into oblivion? |
| 15:03.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and what about your contract? |
| 15:07.37 | CosmicPenguin | Its on hold for the moment |
| 15:08.02 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: very bad way to start the day |
| 15:08.08 | sorphin | ~cluebat Greg |
| 15:08.09 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Greg. |
| 15:10.23 | sieve | chouimat: Nice work! I take it you figured out openvpn then? |
| 15:10.31 | CosmicPenguin | Meh - I really honestly don't care at this point |
| 15:11.09 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: the cluebat was for your contract/$ coming in, more than pixil |
| 15:11.39 | sorphin | like 99% out of 100 :P |
| 15:13.26 | chouimat | sieve: yup very easyly and the vpn is up when the box boot and also when the pppoe link is up too |
| 15:15.02 | chouimat | sieve: took me about 3 to 4 hours of test to get it in production and now it's rock solid (ok 95% there maybe some little glitch to iron out) and the customer is happy since monday morning and he ordered 5 other setup |
| 15:24.21 | sieve | chouimat: good work! |
| 15:28.46 | chouimat | sieve: if only that would give me a better job :) |
| 15:31.07 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - the /. effect took down a MIT server |
| 15:32.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:33.44 | CosmicPenguin | It looks pretty cool |
| 15:33.58 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not gonna download it mind you - because I hate all things Java, but it looks line |
| 15:34.04 | CosmicPenguin | s/line/nice/ |
| 15:34.49 | sorphin | nod |
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| 15:37.05 | sorphin | Russ: morning |
| 15:37.12 | signal11 | y0 |
| 15:37.19 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: hey how often do you use your old pc here |
| 15:37.22 | sorphin | wow, mark's alive :P |
| 15:37.41 | signal11 | heh as i read up the buffer i realize it may not be the best time to ask this |
| 15:38.37 | sorphin | signal11: prolly not |
| 15:42.04 | sorphin | bah typical mci/wcom/whatever we are this week |
| 15:42.11 | Russ | morning |
| 15:42.28 | sorphin | however from work, i get to ASQ (ashburn) and it goes !X |
| 15:43.47 | TimRiker | posix question? can string:: be a utf8? if so are string::size and string::length different? |
| 15:47.27 | chouimat | wooohoooo I got that new dns appliance working |
| 15:53.05 | sorphin | chouimat: heh |
| 15:53.52 | chouimat | sorphin: I'm developing it :) |
| 15:57.35 | sorphin | hmm |
| 15:57.39 | sorphin | turns out, from here in hell |
| 15:57.48 | sorphin | i can't get to any address starting w/ 212 |
| 15:58.44 | CosmicPenguin | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2135615,00.html?rtag=zdnetukhompage |
| 16:00.16 | sorphin | heh, can't get to that either |
| 16:00.47 | sorphin | because of course it's a 212.x.x.x addr :P |
| 16:02.12 | sieve | sorphin: subvert the proxy :) |
| 16:02.20 | sorphin | sieve: no |
| 16:02.29 | sorphin | sie :i'm having to use a proxy just to GET to any 212 site |
| 16:02.57 | sieve | sorphin: oh.. I thought you were having problems with one |
| 16:03.02 | sieve | nm |
| 16:03.05 | sorphin | no |
| 16:08.20 | sieve | sorphin: isn't the 212. network space in saudi or something? |
| 16:08.31 | sorphin | no |
| 16:08.38 | sorphin | it's everywhere |
| 16:08.56 | sorphin | sieve: see that zdnet.co.uk above? |
| 16:08.58 | sorphin | that's a 212 |
| 16:09.46 | chouimat | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20030604/od_nm/brothel_dc |
| 16:09.49 | sieve | ahh... I just know that a lot of our saudi customers have a 212 address |
| 16:10.02 | sorphin | sieve: i think it's general europe |
| 16:10.11 | sorphin | cuz 212 is a ripe block |
| 16:10.23 | sieve | yea I noticed.. |
| 16:10.29 | sieve | smells bad too |
| 16:10.51 | sorphin | sieve: the only thing that would smell ripe over there is prolly dave :P |
| 16:11.21 | sieve | he is beyond ripe.... you have no idea... and be thankful for that. |
| 16:16.23 | TomW | sorphin: You will need carbide drills to drill the board. Fiberglass is a very tough material, it will rapidly dull a high-carbon steel drill. |
| 16:17.54 | sorphin | TomW: i know ;) |
| 16:17.55 | TomW | sorphin: also, you have to feed the carbide drill through the fiberglass at a good rate. Don't let the carbide spin on the fiberglass, it must be constantly cutting it or you will "burn" up the carbide drill. |
| 16:18.49 | TomW | sorphin: when you drill the board, put a peice of wood under the board, this way it will protect the drill and keep it from snapping off when it punches through the fiberglass. |
| 16:18.54 | sorphin | TomW: just got a lil irritated the other day at the price of drill bits :P |
| 16:19.07 | TomW | yup, $3 per |
| 16:19.21 | sorphin | TomW: i know (on the drilling stuff) :) |
| 16:19.25 | TomW | and those are not new, but re-sharps. |
| 16:19.44 | TomW | new carbide is > $6 per |
| 16:19.56 | sorphin | TomW: depends on where |
| 16:20.54 | TomW | I went to the Dayton hamfest one year and bought a box of 0.029" carbide drills, there were 100 in the box, I paid $30 for the whole box! |
| 16:21.04 | sorphin | TomW: nod |
| 16:21.39 | TomW | good luck on your pcb endeavor. I just don't do that stuff anymore 'cause of time, mess, etc.. |
| 16:22.10 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:22.27 | sorphin | TomW: did you use a heater when you did? |
| 16:22.57 | TomW | never |
| 16:23.25 | TomW | too much hassle to use a heater. |
| 16:24.14 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:24.17 | TomW | just used a glass dish (casarole dish) and constantly rocked it. |
| 16:26.14 | TomW | sorphin: with the press-n-peel, I found that if I scoured the blank with Brillo pad, then wiped the blank with acetone, then wiped with alcohol, it would get the board clean enough to take the resist. |
| 16:26.42 | sorphin | nod, used it before.. the ironing was the only annoying part |
| 16:27.14 | TomW | What is a bitch is when you go to all the trouble of preping a blank, then iron on the press-n-peel, only to have some traces not transfer, or during the etching process have them come loose. |
| 16:27.32 | TomW | sux |
| 16:27.42 | sorphin | yeah |
| 16:28.17 | TomW | I'd like a high energy laser that would vaporize the copper I don't need + drill the holes too! |
| 16:28.31 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:28.40 | sorphin | i intend to build/buy a cnc someday |
| 16:28.45 | TomW | sort of like a laser printer on steroids. |
| 16:29.06 | TomW | :P |
| 16:44.53 | CosmicPenguin | http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/04/news/companies/martha/index.htm?cnn=yes |
| 16:45.47 | CosmicPenguin | Schadenfreude can be soooo sweet some times |
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| 16:48.02 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: everything switched over? |
| 16:49.46 | signal11 | yeah |
| 16:49.48 | signal11 | should be |
| 16:52.24 | CosmicPenguin | ping 208.219.23.7 |
| 16:52.28 | CosmicPenguin | oops |
| 16:52.47 | CosmicPenguin | still pings... :) |
| 16:59.21 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'll second that if you want |
| 16:59.36 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: second what? :P |
| 17:07.09 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: never mind |
| 17:11.28 | sorphin | well, network support just called me |
| 17:11.34 | sorphin | 212.x.x.x is blocked indefinately |
| 17:11.47 | sorphin | they block a whole class A, because of some russian hacker |
| 17:11.50 | sorphin | lame |
| 17:12.44 | CosmicPenguin | what? |
| 17:12.52 | CosmicPenguin | Idiots |
| 17:13.27 | sorphin | apparently some russian hacker is causing trouble, so instead of using common sense, they block all of 212 |
| 17:13.37 | sorphin | ok, i definately need a smarter employer |
| 17:14.10 | CosmicPenguin | Apparently they failed statistics |
| 17:14.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and intelligence tests |
| 17:14.50 | CosmicPenguin | Lets block (255 * 255 * 255) addresses just to spite 1 |
| 17:17.09 | sorphin | indeed |
| 17:20.22 | Russ | sorphin: good thing they solved their security problem |
| 17:21.20 | Russ | after all, what is IDS for, if not to track and stop individual hackers |
| 17:22.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:23.46 | Russ | hmm...how usefull is it to provide power on/off on a CF slot? |
| 17:24.25 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: only if the makers plan to have a card always plugged in |
| 17:24.30 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: and even then its wierd |
| 17:24.50 | Russ | why would it be helpfull if you had a card always plugged in (other than PM)? |
| 17:38.10 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: pretty much only for PM |
| 17:38.33 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: If it always had a bluetooth card plugged in, I guess you could save some juice by turning off the card when you don't need it |
| 17:38.45 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: though, like I said, its pretty redudant |
| 17:58.55 | sorphin | finally, found a proxy that doesn't block 1/2 the stuff |
| 18:02.10 | Russ | ok, also I see some mention of 5V and 3.3V when talking about CF sockets, do 5V cards exist? |
| 18:07.18 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: thats a good question - I've never seen one |
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| 18:18.51 | sorphin | scanlime: scanlime eh? |
| 18:40.48 | sorphin | kergoth: still hiding in tim's cube? :P |
| 18:41.22 | kergoth | yeap |
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| 18:42.19 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:42.52 | sjhill | i may actually like it better than xchat |
| 18:42.57 | sjhill | we'll see |
| 18:43.45 | sorphin | sjhill: get this mipsboy |
| 18:44.03 | sjhill | ? |
| 18:44.06 | sorphin | sjhill: mci, in their infinate stupidity, in attempt to thwart a russian h4x0r |
| 18:44.17 | sorphin | has blocked access to 212.*.*.* |
| 18:44.22 | sorphin | from the corporate network |
| 18:44.39 | sjhill | gaaah! |
| 18:44.53 | sjhill | so what can you NOT get to? |
| 18:44.57 | sorphin | uhh |
| 18:44.58 | sjhill | ah |
| 18:45.05 | sorphin | a big portion of europe :P |
| 18:45.10 | sjhill | lol |
| 18:45.19 | sjhill | bah, i don't like europe right now anyway |
| 18:45.28 | sorphin | and apparently |
| 18:45.31 | sorphin | the block is indefinate |
| 18:46.16 | sjhill | sounds to me like mci does not have a good router and/or network security person |
| 18:46.24 | sjhill | ? |
| 18:46.46 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: when the telcos are that dumb, it just gives you a real warm fuzzy doesn't it |
| 18:47.15 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, something like that |
| 18:47.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: makes me wanna break out the cluebat in a big way |
| 18:48.46 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: oh definitely...unhuu |
| 18:49.50 | sjhill | *sigh* PPTP on linux....this looks like it will take a while |
| 18:49.57 | sjhill | patch to both kernel and ppp |
| 18:50.01 | sjhill | fscking M$ |
| 18:51.34 | file | greetings all |
| 18:52.16 | sorphin | lo file |
| 18:52.24 | file | sorphin: how goes life? |
| 18:53.25 | sorphin | file: see above |
| 18:53.37 | file | oh ic |
| 19:59.12 | Russ | 3.64 TQFP |
| 20:03.50 | Russ | ??????? |
| 20:07.18 | sorphin | Russ: eh? |
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| 20:20.17 | Russ | dunno |
| 20:20.55 | sorphin | Russ: um... right |
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| 21:18.07 | CosmicPenguin | grrr.... java |
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| 22:24.53 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: what time is it? |
| 22:24.53 | | CosmicPenguin: what are you talking about? |
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