| 00:04.42 | sorphin | chouimat|tv: wuss |
| 00:10.33 | prpplague | chouimat|tv: i was up all night getting this server ready |
| 00:10.35 | sorphin | prpplague: are you watching office space like a good lil plague? |
| 00:12.28 | prpplague | sorphin: negative |
| 00:12.35 | sorphin | bah |
| 00:12.39 | prpplague | sorphin: working on getting 2nd server ready |
| 00:12.47 | prpplague | sorphin: gotta make some money |
| 00:12.53 | sorphin | heh |
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| 02:14.09 | prpplague | kergoth: re |
| 02:14.15 | kergoth | hey |
| 02:14.27 | prpplague | kergoth: whens the big move? |
| 02:14.35 | kergoth | next week sometime |
| 02:14.48 | prpplague | kergoth: shall we put together a house warming party? lol |
| 02:15.01 | prpplague | kergoth: lots of big haired girls and booze |
| 02:15.13 | sorphin | prpplague: get him hitched up ;) |
| 02:15.41 | kergoth | heh, no thanks. i'm moving my ass out there with nothing to start with |
| 02:15.47 | kergoth | leaving my damn furniture & shit |
| 02:15.48 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: put a webcam so we can all enjoy that party :) |
| 02:15.52 | kergoth | so if theres a party, it aint at my place |
| 02:16.09 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 02:16.25 | kergoth | basically headin out w/ clothes, my computer, a few books and dvds |
| 02:16.33 | kergoth | the rest i'll pay someone in a few weeks |
| 02:16.37 | sorphin | tim never had one |
| 02:16.37 | prpplague | kergoth: thats the idea, everyone brings a piece of furniture(probably something they hate,lol)!! |
| 02:16.40 | kergoth | gotta head back here for the 7th anyway |
| 02:16.50 | kergoth | best friend getting buried |
| 02:16.55 | kergoth | as you'd term it anyway |
| 02:16.56 | kergoth | ;) |
| 02:16.57 | prpplague | yikes |
| 02:17.15 | prpplague | dum dum dum, another one bites the dust |
| 02:17.21 | sorphin | prpplague: the furniture you bring kergoth will be wedding presents ;) |
| 02:17.32 | chouimat|reading | lol |
| 02:17.40 | kergoth | uhh i think i'll buy some furniture, thanks |
| 02:17.42 | kergoth | heheh |
| 02:17.55 | TomW | bean bag chairs... |
| 02:17.56 | kergoth | i'm a young single guy. give me a large cardboard box and a microwave and i'm good to go |
| 02:17.59 | prpplague | kergoth: well ok then......... |
| 02:18.03 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 02:18.03 | kergoth | TomW: hah exactly |
| 02:18.20 | sorphin | kergoth: hope you can run then ;) |
| 02:18.27 | prpplague | kergoth: i need something a little more to impress the babes |
| 02:18.34 | chouimat|reading | kergoth: we are going to send you some crates of ramen instead :) |
| 02:18.38 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:18.39 | sorphin | kergoth: i heard them big haired girls are determined, and they'll chase |
| 02:18.47 | TomW | that shit you put together with a screwdriver + hammer and cost < $100 at the department store. |
| 02:19.13 | TomW | early american curb |
| 02:19.17 | prpplague | kergoth: they have on an old system36 at the office i was thinking about making into a wet bar |
| 02:19.17 | kergoth | sorphin: i'll let my cardboard box apartment discourage them. ;) |
| 02:19.39 | sorphin | wont work ;) |
| 02:19.40 | prpplague | TomW: ha |
| 02:19.52 | TomW | prpplague: btdt |
| 02:19.52 | kergoth | fyi i oughta be done with the new opie launcher within a few weeks at most |
| 02:20.00 | sorphin | kergoth: they'll just take you back to their trailer |
| 02:20.04 | kergoth | you can embed any opie app in a tab. opie-today makes a nice tab |
| 02:20.44 | prpplague | argh, i need to get out of here......and gets some beer |
| 02:20.49 | kergoth | someday i'll remember that alt-q -> alt-p are valid keybindings for irssi and stop doing /win |
| 02:21.23 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: thanks |
| 02:21.40 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: don't know how i'm gonna get through security with 20bottles of beer |
| 02:21.55 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: np ... I think you can have it in Ottawa |
| 02:22.26 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: ya but security in the states has been a little edgy lately |
| 02:22.42 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: "no sir, this it's not beer, it's coolant for the computer room" |
| 02:22.52 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: i got stopped for having a measuring tape in my carry-on because it looked like a grenade |
| 02:22.59 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: lol |
| 02:23.22 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: well sir , coolant for the computer operator :) |
| 02:23.39 | prpplague | kergoth: sounds cool |
| 02:23.54 | prpplague | kergoth: i just can't seem to get into opie |
| 02:24.04 | prpplague | kergoth: or qt in general |
| 02:24.14 | TomW | prpplague: I would think that they would think that would be a weapon: a garrot. |
| 02:24.33 | kergoth | prpplague: yep, i know. |
| 02:25.13 | prpplague | TomW: the security guy said that on the xray it looked just like the ones they trained with |
| 02:25.28 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: our justice minister is going to see ashcroft tuesday about the canadian law about decriminilisation of marijuana |
| 02:25.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:25.43 | prpplague | kergoth: did you find a good aparment? or are you getting one when you get down there? |
| 02:25.47 | sorphin | buncha canadian potheads |
| 02:26.00 | TomW | chouimat|reading: do you mean legalization or decriminalizing it? |
| 02:26.12 | chouimat|reading | TomW: decriminalizing |
| 02:26.14 | TomW | chouimat|reading: i.e. minor felony |
| 02:26.33 | TomW | chouimat|reading: misdemeanor. |
| 02:26.38 | chouimat|reading | TomW: you won't get a criminal record for 10 grams or less |
| 02:26.39 | kergoth | prpplague: talked to some guy that i got referenced to by the recruiter, thers some apartment complex across the street from TI |
| 02:26.47 | kergoth | prpplague: :) |
| 02:27.04 | prpplague | fun |
| 02:27.07 | TomW | chouimat|reading: yeah, so the guy that sells the nickel bags gets busted big time... |
| 02:27.21 | sorphin | chouimat|reading: uh.. what's the point? |
| 02:27.26 | prpplague | kergoth: hope its not too expensive being across the street |
| 02:27.33 | kergoth | prpplague: they cut a deal to TI employees |
| 02:27.37 | kergoth | prpplague: no deposit |
| 02:27.44 | prpplague | kergoth: nice |
| 02:27.46 | kergoth | which is good since i'm flat broke and 3 months behind on my mortgage |
| 02:27.49 | kergoth | eheh |
| 02:27.59 | chouimat|reading | sorphin: because that just stupid to have a criminal record foor 1 joint |
| 02:28.24 | sorphin | chouimat|reading: matter of opinion |
| 02:28.30 | TomW | kergoth: so, with your first paycheck will go to the mortgage company to forstall forclosure? |
| 02:28.35 | kergoth | TomW: bingo |
| 02:28.40 | TomW | heh |
| 02:28.51 | chouimat|reading | ok I have 2 tickets to sell for Ozzy Osbourne show in quebec city onn june 16th any taker? |
| 02:28.54 | TomW | "saved by the bell" err TI |
| 02:29.13 | kergoth | TomW: thankfully i get paid weekly, so the wait wont be as long as it would be otherwise |
| 02:31.45 | chouimat|reading | prpplague:know a good glass for stout beer? |
| 02:33.47 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=1935 |
| 02:34.41 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=124 |
| 02:34.46 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: try reading that |
| 02:36.02 | chouimat|reading | why try? |
| 02:37.55 | prpplague | chouimat|reading: ? |
| 02:38.27 | chouimat|reading | prpplague: nm |
| 02:42.10 | prpplague | ho ho hum, waiting on dlt to finish |
| 02:42.22 | CosmicPenguin | grrr... somebody needs to shoot me in the head |
| 02:42.28 | kergoth | ~shoot CosmicPenguin |
| 02:42.29 | | ACTION shoots CosmicPenguin in the head. |
| 02:42.42 | CosmicPenguin | I've been working way too much. I bought DVD+R and I didn't even notice it until the DVD writer wouldn't recognize it |
| 02:42.54 | CosmicPenguin | bbias |
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| 03:02.02 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey dude |
| 03:02.19 | prpplague | TimRiker: hows life in big D takin to ya? |
| 03:02.30 | kergoth | hey tim |
| 03:03.22 | chouimat | hi tim |
| 03:04.16 | kergoth | hrmm |
| 03:05.36 | prpplague | hrm is right |
| 03:10.22 | CosmicPenguin | Stupid worst buy didn't have any DVD-R in packs less than 50 |
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| 03:24.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which dvd burner have you got? |
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| 03:42.26 | sorphin | andin: evening erik |
| 03:43.57 | andersee | sorphin: evening |
| 03:44.23 | kergoth | hey andersee |
| 03:44.36 | sorphin | andin: things you've missed |
| 03:44.38 | andersee | kergoth: hey |
| 03:44.39 | sorphin | grrr |
| 03:44.43 | sorphin | andersee: things you've missed |
| 03:44.48 | sorphin | andersee: pixil binaries |
| 03:44.55 | sorphin | kergoth being hired by TI |
| 03:45.05 | sorphin | that's bout it i think *g* |
| 03:45.46 | andersee | kergoth: congrats on the new job |
| 03:45.57 | andersee | sorphin: pixil binaries? cool. Source? |
| 03:46.06 | sorphin | andin: source if coming soon |
| 03:46.08 | sorphin | grr |
| 03:46.09 | sorphin | dammit |
| 03:46.16 | sorphin | andersee: source is coming soon jordan said |
| 03:46.28 | kergoth | andersee: thanks |
| 03:46.35 | sorphin | andersee: gpsfan and dave found a buncha bugs for him to fix tho ;) |
| 03:47.02 | andersee | I bet |
| 03:47.13 | andersee | Binaries linked vs uClibc for arm? |
| 03:47.14 | sorphin | he has ipaq, Z and tux |
| 03:47.23 | sorphin | andin: i dunno |
| 03:47.27 | sorphin | ok |
| 03:47.46 | sorphin | erm |
| 03:47.46 | sorphin | 4 |
| 03:48.01 | chouimat|Zzzz | niight |
| 03:48.40 | sorphin | andersee: can't really check atm either, i have to do some microscopic soldering just to get usb back to the Z :P |
| 03:49.55 | andersee | sorphin: no worries |
| 03:54.16 | sorphin | and: ;) |
| 04:00.01 | CosmicPenguin | Was someone talking to me? |
| 04:05.58 | Error403 | CosmicPenguin: yeah, your unconciousness |
| 04:06.13 | Error403 | s/ness// |
| 04:12.23 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: howdy |
| 04:12.50 | andersee | msg CosmicPenguin Your wedding day is fast approaching... |
| 04:12.54 | andersee | heh |
| 04:27.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: actually erik had asked me if you'd done pixil against uclibc |
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| 08:39.21 | sorphin | yay |
| 08:39.24 | sorphin | my adapter works |
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| 09:30.26 | sorphin | heh, so much for it working.. blah |
| 09:30.43 | sorphin | what a waste of a night making this fscking thing |
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| 13:52.40 | CosmicPenguin | Morning folks |
| 13:52.56 | CosmicPenguin | THe answer to last night Re: Pixil and Uclibc is yes - on the Tuxscreen |
| 13:53.41 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: ok, so what was the question? ;>) |
| 13:54.57 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: andersee asked if I had build pixil with Uclibc |
| 13:56.30 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: thanks for those bugs, BTW |
| 13:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: great bug report |
| 13:56.51 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: ah, works good too.. my uptime is at 2 days 21 hours. running pixil. not doing too much atm, but it's running the terminal. ...thanks... |
| 13:59.45 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: btw it seems to work ok with my 32Mb DRAM mod too. |
| 14:02.01 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: cool |
| 14:02.17 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: I'm going to look at those keyboard issues later - thats not a great terminal emulator, BTW |
| 14:02.20 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: did you ever figure out the respawn issue? |
| 14:02.26 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: no |
| 14:02.48 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: all I know is that my phone wouldn't work with the respawn line in there. I would get random beeps and disconnected calls |
| 14:03.38 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: ah, I haven't played with the telephone part yet, I'll try it out later. |
| 14:06.28 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: yeah, I need to write a little caller Id applet for the window manager |
| 14:07.23 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: and a way to dial the phone from a # in the address book. ;>) |
| 14:07.39 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: yep... :) |
| 14:08.54 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: is there a way to set the screensaver timeout? it seems a little short for the tux that's plugged into the wall. |
| 14:09.50 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: Its on my todo list - I need to write a new component for the System Configurator |
| 14:10.11 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: I guess I could use the existing backlight timeout for now |
| 14:10.34 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan_: its hard coded - I'll bump it up to 2 minutes for now... :) |
| 14:11.07 | GPSFan_ | CosmicPenguin: np, 2 min would be great. |
| 14:26.17 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yo, you have any screenies of your pixel stuff ? |
| 14:27.12 | mallum | sorphin: heya, whats up ? flu ? atkins diet ? |
| 14:27.44 | sorphin | mallum: lack of sleep, spending all night working on a connector under a microscope that doesn't quite do what it should, working in hell, etc |
| 14:28.08 | mallum | sorphin: looking at porn with a microscope ? |
| 14:29.05 | sorphin | mallum: did you not see the word connector in there? as in the Z's connector |
| 14:29.44 | mallum | sorphin: ok ok sorry |
| 14:29.55 | mallum | hmm simpad support now in buildroot |
| 14:31.42 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: no screeshots ATM |
| 14:34.28 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: okey, any word on the license as yet ? |
| 14:34.31 | sorphin | cp: ya you do, what bout the ones you showed us originally on your site? |
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| 14:41.24 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: license? |
| 14:41.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: he means when source gets out |
| 14:43.03 | CosmicPenguin | Oh - its GPL all the way |
| 14:43.07 | CosmicPenguin | Already tagged and everything |
| 14:43.34 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: really ? |
| 14:44.40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: so I could grab it and start playing with it and matchbox ? |
| 14:47.15 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: when its released |
| 14:49.29 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ah ok |
| 14:53.06 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: could that be days, weeks, months etc ? |
| 14:55.22 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: its being delayed by my wedding, actually |
| 14:55.36 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: After 2 and a half years, I am the tall pole |
| 14:57.16 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 14:58.00 | sorphin | mallum: he's got his head on the chopping block |
| 14:58.17 | mallum | ah ok |
| 14:58.55 | sorphin | mallum: where bouts you at over there again? |
| 14:59.35 | mallum | sorphin: East London |
| 14:59.45 | sorphin | mallum: ah, a commoner |
| 15:00.16 | mallum | hehe, yeah in the hood |
| 15:00.20 | mallum | sorphin: where are you ? |
| 15:01.21 | sorphin | mallum: just outside of st louis, missouri, USA (oddly, the city where i am, is in the oxford atlas) |
| 15:01.55 | sorphin | not sure why tho |
| 15:03.27 | mallum | sorphin: Im coming to LA august |
| 15:03.39 | sorphin | mallum: matchbox world tour? *g* |
| 15:04.31 | mallum | sorphin: yeah sorta ;-) |
| 15:04.35 | mallum | sorphin: honeymoon |
| 15:04.44 | mallum | sorphin: Hawai, Japan after that |
| 15:04.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:05.00 | sorphin | everyone seems to be putting their head on the block |
| 15:05.06 | mallum | yep |
| 15:05.26 | sorphin | not that i can say much, i would if i could atm, but can't |
| 15:08.04 | sorphin | mallum: where's a pic of the new matchbox queen? |
| 15:12.39 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:12.59 | sorphin | chouimat: bonjour frenchy |
| 15:13.13 | chouimat | hey sorphin |
| 15:13.14 | mallum | sorphin: hmm, I dont think I have one :/ |
| 15:13.26 | sorphin | mallum: typical :P |
| 15:13.34 | mallum | chouimat: are you frenchy ? |
| 15:13.40 | mallum | sorphin: I'll get one later |
| 15:13.47 | sorphin | mallum: he's french canuck |
| 15:13.50 | sorphin | close enough |
| 15:14.06 | mallum | chouimat: can you speak french ? |
| 15:14.20 | sorphin | he can, tho it's about as bad as his english ;) |
| 15:15.06 | mallum | sorphin: Im totally addicted to zelda :/ |
| 15:15.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:15.36 | sorphin | mallum: Parfois, il est impossible à comprendre |
| 15:17.42 | chouimat | sorphin: je sais des fois j'ai beaucoup de misere a me comprendre |
| 15:18.37 | sorphin | compris |
| 15:26.05 | sorphin | kergoth: blah |
| 15:26.10 | sorphin | ibot: tuesday |
| 15:26.10 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday), or a day in which there are no meetings |
| 15:27.50 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:28.25 | sorphin | kergoth: after wasting hours |
| 15:28.42 | sorphin | my stupid adapter is acting like an ethernet dongle i used to have |
| 15:29.50 | sorphin | if there's a lil weight on it pushing the pins against the connector, it's fine, if you lift it slightly or anything does, etc.. it loses connection (and the whole time OZ sits there twiddling its thumbs till i unhook) |
| 15:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | wow, they got OZ to twiddle its thumbs? Thats amazing! |
| 15:40.11 | kergoth | OZ has thumbs? cool |
| 15:41.18 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: that must be the optional attachment |
| 15:41.54 | kergoth | we need a DONT PANIC startup logo |
| 15:42.20 | levi | That'd be sweet. |
| 15:44.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:44.37 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: does the logo live in the rom? |
| 15:45.17 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah, its the kernel boot logo. ppm. |
| 15:45.37 | kergoth | I'd rather have a graphical init display the logo instead, personally |
| 15:45.45 | kergoth | but since none exist, this'll do |
| 15:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: its either that or the Linux logo trick |
| 15:46.44 | sorphin | cp: so pixil's been put on hold for my Z till i get a 6-in-1 reader.. grr |
| 15:47.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: doh |
| 15:48.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats ok, I haven't hooked in the PM yet, so its not mobile |
| 15:48.30 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't figured out the best way to trap the "Cancel" button |
| 15:48.56 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: is pixil X based ? |
| 15:48.58 | CosmicPenguin | And Greg is set on making Microwindows MHP compliant, which pisses me off, but what are you going to do? |
| 15:49.01 | mallum | kergoth: heya |
| 15:49.08 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Pixil is FLTK / FLNX based, so it can be easily run on X |
| 15:49.26 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I have an X11 option in the menu, even |
| 15:49.44 | kergoth | hey mallum |
| 15:49.48 | CosmicPenguin | If X11 is selected, it only builds the PIMs. If Nano-X is selected, it builds the games, Nano-X applications, and the PIMS |
| 15:50.51 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: why Nano-X or games ? |
| 15:51.02 | mallum | kergoth: I see the simpad has made it into buildroot |
| 15:51.16 | kergoth | mallum: yep, mickeyl and cmartin are hacking on it |
| 15:52.11 | mallum | kergoth: are they german ? |
| 15:52.25 | chouimat | I want a simpad |
| 15:52.28 | kergoth | mickey is, dunno about cmartin |
| 15:52.38 | mallum | kergoth: X should just work on it btw, I think the kernel for it has a ucb thing for the touchscreen |
| 15:52.46 | kergoth | yeah its ucb |
| 15:52.50 | kergoth | good |
| 15:52.55 | mallum | kergoth: there seems to be a flood of them cheap in germany |
| 15:53.30 | sorphin | ibot: simpad? |
| 15:53.30 | | sorphin: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 15:53.45 | sorphin | ibot: die |
| 15:53.46 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:54.34 | kergoth | i love the last week on a job |
| 15:54.37 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: are you going to get into a pissing match with me over Microwindows? |
| 15:54.51 | chouimat | kergoth: you can get one via expensis but at 1 200$ |
| 15:55.10 | kergoth | chouimat: what? simpad? |
| 15:55.11 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: dunno, neather used used microwindows |
| 15:55.17 | chouimat | kergoth: yup |
| 15:55.53 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: just wondered what nano-x gave for the games ? |
| 15:56.09 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: they are all Nano-X based applications |
| 15:56.33 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:56.37 | sorphin | cute lil thing |
| 15:57.38 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: okey |
| 15:59.09 | sorphin | crickey |
| 15:59.14 | sorphin | no simpad in my future |
| 15:59.53 | sorphin | least not till tim buys them in bulk and sells them for $99 :P |
| 16:00.00 | chouimat | sorphin: hehe |
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| 16:01.12 | sorphin | wow |
| 16:01.16 | sorphin | mention tim's name |
| 16:01.17 | sorphin | and he appears |
| 16:01.42 | chouimat | sorphin: I though we needed to say it thrice? |
| 16:01.51 | sorphin | chouimat: he's not the devil |
| 16:01.59 | chouimat | sorphin: hehee |
| 16:17.30 | chouimat | http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/13/news/economy/twenty/index.htm |
| 16:36.20 | levi | Wow, that $20 bill thing is getting around fast. I've seen it pasted in 3 different places in the last 5 minutes. |
| 16:42.52 | sorphin | i think the things looks stupid, but then, i've never been one to think $ "looked cool" |
| 16:43.22 | CosmicPenguin | Tisn't for looks |
| 16:45.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's a good thing |
| 17:09.06 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - I've been getting spam from Matthew Lesko lately |
| 17:11.40 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:11.53 | sorphin | maybe he wants to give you free government $ |
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| 18:59.15 | sorphin | GPSFan: you around? |
| 19:07.16 | GPSFan | sorphin: yep, just a little slow... |
| 19:07.36 | sorphin | GPSFan: did some major microscope soldering last night |
| 19:07.48 | GPSFan | nod |
| 19:08.00 | sorphin | and wasted my time in the process :( |
| 19:08.13 | GPSFan | ;>( how so? |
| 19:09.12 | sorphin | the stupid zaurus connector, it's acting like an old dongle's connector i had |
| 19:10.01 | sorphin | with the Z laying flat if the connector is sitting soit's 'hanging' persay, so that the "pins" are pushed at the connector, it's all good |
| 19:10.17 | sorphin | if you lift it/it's sitting flat, it breaks contact |
| 19:10.52 | sorphin | very very touchy :/ |
| 19:11.07 | sorphin | and of course, it hangs the Z while it's plugged in |
| 19:11.16 | sorphin | not sure why on that bit |
| 19:11.28 | GPSFan | sorphin: ugg, this is ypur jtag interface? |
| 19:12.26 | sorphin | actually no |
| 19:12.33 | sorphin | this was just to have usb connectivity again |
| 19:12.58 | sorphin | got a piece of perf, DB15 on one end, Z connector on the other end |
| 19:13.15 | sorphin | w/ 15 30gauge hookups done (hence my microscope soldering) |
| 19:13.23 | sorphin | all connections between are solid |
| 19:13.40 | GPSFan | sorphin: oh i see, it WAS to be your jtag interface, maybe it hangs because you made a wireing mistake? |
| 19:14.12 | sorphin | i guess this connector, just like the dongle one, uses cheap ass contact setup |
| 19:14.28 | sorphin | i.e. doesn't like not being vertical |
| 19:14.44 | sorphin | GPSFan: if i have the adapter hooked up w/ nothing hooked to it, the Z is fine |
| 19:14.59 | sorphin | and the only thing hooked up to the adapter when i do have something are 5 wires |
| 19:15.00 | GPSFan | sorphin: or away from its "mother" board ;) |
| 19:15.18 | sorphin | vcc, sig gnd, Data+, Data-, Frame gnd |
| 19:15.52 | GPSFan | sorphin: did you move all the components from the old board? |
| 19:16.19 | sorphin | no |
| 19:16.29 | sorphin | i'm doing it like the serial IO cable would |
| 19:17.25 | sorphin | the only real reason for that stuff in the cradle, was the sync button, the connector on the base of the cradle, and to ground pin 13 (to disable jtag/enable serial) |
| 19:18.00 | GPSFan | but you only want to get the usb part working again? |
| 19:18.39 | GPSFan | bbiab phone... |
| 19:19.10 | sorphin | GPSFan: atm, yeah |
| 19:19.23 | sorphin | since i don't have a mmc reader atm, i need usb, heh |
| 19:30.48 | GPSFan | sorphin: back... anyone have a schematic of the cradle, maybe there is a pin that needs grounding to enable the usb? |
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| 19:49.32 | sorphin | ah, the wonders of freelode :P |
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| 19:49.39 | MornWork | doh! |
| 19:49.49 | GPSFan | yep, |
| 19:49.57 | MornWork | it really sucked on some of the larger channels I'm on |
| 19:50.06 | chouimat | netsplit? |
| 19:50.07 | kergoth | whee. |
| 19:50.22 | MornWork | looks like a main rotation server went poof |
| 19:50.32 | sorphin | hey anyone that uses BX (if anyone else does) remembre the trick to stop the list of users from being displayed on join? |
| 19:50.59 | sorphin | and it's a bit spamm y;p |
| 19:52.12 | glytchbinary | irssi is alot nicer than bx |
| 19:52.30 | sorphin | not what i asked *shrug* |
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| 19:53.09 | sorphin | andersee: "Welcome back... Mr Andersen" |
| 19:53.10 | CosmicPenguin | afternoon |
| 19:53.11 | sorphin | *g* |
| 19:53.50 | andersee | sorphin: g'day |
| 19:54.13 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: so I understand you have made some Pixilacious progress? |
| 19:54.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats real original |
| 19:54.22 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: yeah, did you grab the images yet? |
| 19:54.39 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: what are these images you speak of? |
| 19:54.48 | CosmicPenguin | http://cosmicpenguin.net/pixil.html |
| 19:55.10 | sorphin | andersee: he also answered your Q |
| 19:55.22 | sorphin | he only used uclibc on the tux pixil |
| 19:55.28 | andersee | sorphin: cool |
| 19:55.40 | CosmicPenguin | I could either A) teach Greg how to use bitkeeper and download buildroot-oz and patch the pxiil stuff himself, or B) upload a 30MB file to my server |
| 19:56.00 | CosmicPenguin | Sadly, B is sooooo much more ieasier |
| 19:56.25 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: figures |
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| 19:59.45 | sorphin | BZFlag: make up your mind ;) |
| 19:59.58 | andersee | BZFlag: g'day eh |
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| 20:00.35 | TimRiker | ok ok |
| 20:00.53 | sorphin | TimRiker: glytch still has no badge *g* |
| 20:01.13 | glytchbinary | hmm |
| 20:01.17 | glytchbinary | maybe i can forge one (: |
| 20:01.20 | sorphin | TimRiker: he said he was gonna follow you around till he got one |
| 20:01.33 | glytchbinary | no no, tailgate him into the building on his card swipe (: |
| 20:01.55 | sorphin | glytchbinary: that too |
| 20:02.10 | andersee | TimRiker: "badges! We don need no stinkin' badges! |
| 20:02.15 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:02.27 | sorphin | looks like sprintstink has some hosed routers |
| 20:02.33 | sorphin | 630ms+ |
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| 20:05.25 | sorphin | andersee: careful, it has lil critters running around in it |
| 20:05.47 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: not really |
| 20:05.57 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: just gotta chmod the start script |
| 20:06.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: thought ken had found a few things? |
| 20:07.27 | andersee | sorphin: xroaches? |
| 20:08.11 | sorphin | andersee: nah, twas penguinbugs |
| 20:08.19 | sorphin | sounds like they've been raided tho |
| 20:10.21 | GPSFan | sorphin: a few annoynances, the term app is somewhat braindead, but the rest is nice. ;) |
| 20:13.24 | sorphin | GPSFan: guess i'm gonna have to get a serialio cable.. |
| 20:13.49 | GPSFan | sorphin: for your Z ? |
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| 20:18.00 | sorphin | GPSFan: yeah, since this thing's gonna be flakey :( |
| 20:18.16 | sorphin | they use the same connector tho |
| 20:18.23 | sorphin | so i dunno what the deal is |
| 20:19.51 | sorphin | and it's near impossible to get anything in there to mess w/ the contacts :P |
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| 20:32.09 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: /usr/pixil/nxstart.sh lacks execute perms |
| 20:33.01 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: The two pixil related /etc/inittab entried are wrong. They should be null::respawn:/usr/pixil/nxstart.sh |
| 20:33.27 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: And for some reason, my touchscreen doesn't seem to work... |
| 20:33.37 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: What kernel are you using? |
| 20:33.51 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: thats actually all broken - don't use inittab if you plan on using your phone |
| 20:33.56 | CosmicPenguin | I knew about the perms |
| 20:34.20 | CosmicPenguin | and my touchscreen works fine. What happens on a cat /dev/ucb1x00-ts? |
| 20:34.47 | andersee | # cat /dev/ucb1x00-ts |
| 20:34.47 | andersee | cat: /dev/ucb1x00-ts: Device or resource busy |
| 20:34.54 | sorphin | that'd be 2 people now |
| 20:35.07 | sorphin | and :morn gets that too |
| 20:35.14 | sorphin | andersee: see above |
| 20:35.41 | andersee | sorphin: above? |
| 20:35.58 | CosmicPenguin | That is way too wierd |
| 20:36.08 | CosmicPenguin | You don't have N copies of nano-X running do you? |
| 20:36.51 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: nope |
| 20:36.54 | sorphin | andersee: above where my : was misplaced |
| 20:37.01 | sorphin | anyways |
| 20:38.25 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: no other devices think they are using /dev/ucb1x00-ts? |
| 20:38.59 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: rebooting now w nxstart.sh removed from inittab |
| 20:39.10 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: good call |
| 20:39.34 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: now doing a 'cat /dev/ucb1x00-ts' just seems to hang doing nothing |
| 20:39.54 | andersee | touching the screen produces no effect |
| 20:40.37 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: shouldn't matter, right? |
| 20:40.54 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: It might... what kernel do you use? |
| 20:42.07 | CosmicPenguin | 2.4.18-rmk6-tux1 |
| 20:42.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:42.28 | andersee | dunno man |
| 20:42.30 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: did you use my image lock stock and barrel or did you dummy up one? |
| 20:43.40 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I took your image stock, then in blob I used xdownload ramdisk, erase ramdisk, flash ramdisk, reboot |
| 20:43.50 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: thats it |
| 20:43.59 | CosmicPenguin | Are we encountering our old touchscreen bug again? |
| 20:44.11 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: could be |
| 20:44.20 | sorphin | old touchscreen bug? |
| 20:44.20 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan's worked |
| 20:44.26 | sorphin | predates me apparently |
| 20:44.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: some of the tuxscreen touchscreens wouldn't work out of the box |
| 20:45.00 | sorphin | ah |
| 20:45.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: and it turns out that we needed to turn on the DSP before they would start responding |
| 20:45.11 | sorphin | weird |
| 20:45.25 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you running tuxphone? |
| 20:46.18 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 20:47.06 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: it is in the /etc/inittab file in the pixil image as created by you, so yes it is running |
| 20:48.02 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: :) |
| 20:48.23 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: thats weird - Ken's and mine work, yours and Julie's doesn't |
| 20:49.08 | sorphin | guess i should try one of mine |
| 20:49.16 | sorphin | break the tie |
| 20:49.32 | andersee | TimRiker: around? |
| 20:50.01 | andersee | TimRiker: refresh our memory as to the cause of some touchscreens working and some not on the tuxscreen? |
| 20:50.53 | CosmicPenguin | I gotta run - I'll read back in the buffer if anyone remembers |
| 20:56.35 | file | sweet - Canadian dollar is worth 72 cents US! |
| 20:58.23 | andersee | file: for those not tracking currency trading -- that is good for you? |
| 20:58.32 | file | andersee: yes |
| 20:58.43 | file | andersee: it used to be in the 60's |
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| 21:20.33 | chouimat | re |
| 21:29.08 | file | chouimat: greetings |
| 21:29.34 | chouimat | hi file |
| 21:30.54 | chouimat | http://macbuyersguide.com/editorials/editorial-ppc970.htm |
| 21:31.10 | file | chouimat: can I send cash in the mail? |
| 21:31.28 | chouimat | no |
| 21:31.36 | file | that bites |
| 21:32.15 | chouimat | file check is ok |
| 21:32.25 | file | check? I have not a checking account. |
| 21:32.51 | chouimat | file: ok |
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| 21:35.06 | chouimat | wb russ |
| 21:35.37 | Russ | yo |
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| 21:58.19 | cosmic_errands | sorphin: It took me forever to find a DVD-R in this damn town |
| 21:58.25 | cosmic_errands | Whats with all the TIers all of a sudden? |
| 21:58.33 | cosmic_errands | Oh, yeah, I'm back |
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| 22:40.26 | sorphin | now i remember why i called best buy, worst buy |
| 22:41.27 | sorphin | any other time, they had 6-in-1 readers for decent price |
| 22:41.35 | sorphin | now all they have is fscking USB 2.0 ones for $50 |
| 22:42.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i used some memorex dvd-r's (cmc magnetics), worked fine, but pricey, back to looking again, still can't decide on Accu or not, since it seems Accu has went through 3 diff manufacturers :P |
| 22:47.14 | sorphin | and i still have this 3/4 burned copy of christine, if i could ever figure out how to use the BurnFree crap to finish it |
| 22:59.55 | TimRiker | the touchscreen issue was a ucb12xx startup thing iirc. |
| 23:00.16 | TimRiker | newer kernels did it right and all the devices worked. Are you running an old kernel? |
| 23:01.47 | chouimat|food | hi tim |
| 23:01.56 | TimRiker | iirc cat might just read a char at a time. try dd instead and see if you get something there. |
| 23:02.09 | TimRiker | might need to know the struct size first or some odd thing. |
| 23:03.44 | kergoth | hey tim |
| 23:03.46 | sorphin | TimRiker: they're using 2.4.18-rmk6-tux1 |
| 23:06.29 | TimRiker | Linux tuxscreen 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 #1 Wed May 1 02:51:28 MDT 2002 armv4l unknown |
| 23:06.44 | TimRiker | so mines not up to date with the latest. |
| 23:08.25 | sorphin | gonna try and put pixil on mine tonight and see what happens (assuming i don't have 8000 other things break 1st) |
| 23:09.56 | TimRiker | Russ: any way to force udhcpc to use a shorter lease time then it is offered? |
| 23:10.35 | TimRiker | stinking win* dhcp/dns servers hand out infinite lease times, but then loose the hostname over time. |
| 23:13.06 | chouimat|food | TimRiker: I know it's possible with dhclient on freebsd |
| 23:13.27 | sorphin | TimRiker: well, he moves next week ;) |
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| 23:54.46 | kergoth | ~lart trolltech |
| 23:55.05 | sorphin | kergoth: c'mon, you know you love QT ;) |
| 23:55.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:56.37 | kergoth | I need a tabbar that can display any arbitrary widget in the label of the tab, instead of just text or an icon |
| 23:56.57 | kergoth | but its going to involve some ugly hackery to avoid reimplementing it from scratch |
| 23:57.14 | kergoth | since if i reimplement from scratch, i'm too lazy to not swipe code, and if i swipe code i've infected myself with gpl |
| 23:58.02 | kergoth | now if trolltech hadnt fucked up their implementation of QTab, itd make my life far easier. |
| 23:58.11 | sorphin | kergoth: well, you could take a break and make a buildroot for timmy ;) |
| 23:58.54 | kergoth | I really look forward to OE becoming usable enough for the existing oz buildroot to go bye bye |
| 23:59.08 | kergoth | sorphin: focused on the launcher rewrite atm |
| 23:59.31 | sorphin | kergoth: i know, i was just prodding you for him incase you missed his hint *g* |