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| 00:40.36 | chouimat|food | hey prpplague |
| 00:46.28 | chouimat|food | prpplague: got my email? |
| 01:00.56 | prpplague | chouimat: lol ya |
| 01:01.34 | chouimat | prpplague: that one is really impressive |
| 01:03.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: do you have any issues with your Z keyboard? Every have to press keys multiple times to get it to register? |
| 01:06.47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nm - I had two Nano-X servers running at the same time |
| 01:09.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doh |
| 01:13.03 | chouimat | bye prpplague |
| 01:20.55 | chouimat | tv? |
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| 01:29.38 | chouimat | hi TimRiker |
| 01:30.49 | chouimat | TimRiker: thanks for your feedback |
| 01:33.24 | glytchbinary | TimRiker: whats the usual time that people start going home at ti ? |
| 01:34.01 | glytchbinary | (: |
| 01:37.18 | glytchbinary | where was the zaurus for 200 ? |
| 01:52.52 | TimRiker | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=S213-1076%20P |
| 01:53.48 | TimRiker | glytchbinary: most folks head out around 5. there are some in the early crowd that head out around 4 and some that stay late. I left around 5:30 today. |
| 01:54.37 | glytchbinary | i'll be staying late i think |
| 01:54.47 | glytchbinary | my bus won't come until 6~ (: |
| 01:55.18 | glytchbinary | and unless my applied tech teacher stops being mean i wont be able to go until 2:30 |
| 01:55.25 | glytchbinary | but i'm trying to work that out with her |
| 01:57.29 | TimRiker | what's more "Applied Tech" than working in the real world? ;-) |
| 01:58.04 | glytchbinary | tell her that |
| 01:58.21 | glytchbinary | well right now i intern for the city of rowlett, and i'm required to have 10 hours a week. |
| 01:58.44 | glytchbinary | right now i leave school at 11, go there and then leave at 2:30(normal time that school gets out) |
| 01:58.49 | glytchbinary | and i get more than enough hours |
| 01:59.20 | glytchbinary | i'm trying to get her to let me go to my internship twice a week and stay until 5:30 when they close, i'd get my hours in there. and then for the rest of the week i could come to work at TI |
| 02:28.24 | kergoth | hey dave |
| 02:28.50 | prpplague | kergoth: evening |
| 02:29.18 | prpplague | kergoth: hope i didn't annoy you too much today, still trying to get back into the swing of things for oz/oe |
| 02:30.34 | kergoth | nah, its not a problem |
| 02:31.00 | kergoth | takes everyone a bit to get into the swing of the system. its a big pile of hacks, but it does the job |
| 02:36.29 | prpplague | kergoth: speaking of hacks, i need to dl source so i can play on my trip tomorrow |
| 02:37.10 | prpplague | kergoth: any suggestions where to look for an example of the ioctl to switch that power button function? |
| 02:37.26 | prpplague | kergoth: or could i just turn off apmd for now? |
| 02:37.41 | kergoth | opie/libopie/odevice.cpp |
| 02:37.55 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thx |
| 02:37.59 | kergoth | np |
| 02:38.10 | kergoth | hit the webcvs if you dont have it handy. look at the Zaurus:: methods |
| 02:38.12 | prpplague | kergoth: since i've not done opie, i had no idea where to begin |
| 02:38.35 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks |
| 02:38.47 | kergoth | np |
| 02:38.54 | prpplague | kergoth: guess i just need a little c app to do this |
| 02:38.58 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:39.07 | chouimat | re |
| 02:39.19 | prpplague | i wonder why this wasn't a problem with the version i built |
| 02:39.51 | kergoth | you probably left apmd out of your image or something |
| 02:40.03 | kergoth | the bug is that it never wakes up if suspended via normal means while apmd is running |
| 02:41.09 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh |
| 02:41.55 | prpplague | so i could just turn of apmd for temporary |
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| 03:31.34 | chouimat | arrrrrrggggggggg a lot of propritary code in the last gui apps I wrote .... |
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| 03:57.02 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 04:02.58 | prpplague | ibot: oz cvs |
| 04:02.59 | | prpplague: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 04:03.18 | kergoth | oz doesnt use a cvs repos. |
| 04:03.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:03.39 | prpplague | kergoth: i thought you mentioned a webcvs location |
| 04:05.01 | kergoth | I did. |
| 04:05.03 | kergoth | opie cvs. |
| 04:05.12 | kergoth | opie.handhelds.org |
| 04:05.25 | prpplague | the opie cvs has the 5500 code check in? |
| 04:05.34 | kergoth | yes. |
| 04:05.39 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks |
| 04:10.06 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: later |
| 04:11.06 | chouimat|Zzzz | prpplague: have a nice try tomorrow :) |
| 04:12.23 | prpplague | chouimat|Zzzz: later |
| 04:13.09 | chouimat|Zzzz | prpplague: I''m actualy listening to some music ... |
| 04:13.46 | chouimat|Zzzz | ok I'm off |
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| 04:31.42 | clarko | anyone into webpal hacking? |
| 04:33.10 | prpplague | clarko: uhh ya |
| 04:33.21 | prpplague | clarko: this is webpal central :) |
| 04:33.35 | prpplague | clarko: however most everyone out for the evening |
| 04:33.42 | clarko | i am trying to figure out if I have the pinout of the serial port right |
| 04:34.15 | clarko | is it odds on left and evens on right? |
| 04:34.39 | prpplague | clarko: now sure i know what you mean |
| 04:34.48 | prpplague | clarko: which pin out are you refering to |
| 04:35.01 | clarko | J11 |
| 04:35.04 | prpplague | clarko: the db9 connector or for the uart connector |
| 04:35.06 | prpplague | clarko: ahh |
| 04:35.21 | prpplague | clarko: just check the schematic on bigbrd's sight |
| 04:35.26 | prpplague | clarko: should be listed |
| 04:35.33 | prpplague | ibot: webpal |
| 04:35.33 | | webpal is, like, a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping!, or schematics are available from: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
| 04:35.33 | clarko | he is not clear about it |
| 04:35.47 | prpplague | clarko: is that the schematic you are using? |
| 04:36.20 | clarko | not really, i copied most of it, but im using my own connectors |
| 04:37.46 | clarko | if you do it his way, are you supposed to use a straight through serial cable to hook up to the computer? |
| 04:39.05 | clarko | one hint about what is wrong may be that the IR port doesnt work when i have it plugged in even though there is nothing touching J10 |
| 04:43.57 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:44.15 | prpplague | sorphin: thats what i must sounds like asking kergoth`zzz questions |
| 04:44.41 | sorphin | prpplague: now you know why chris always preps the cluebat ;) |
| 04:46.52 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya |
| 04:47.24 | prpplague | sorphin: i hate hate hate that i grew up in such as shit hole |
| 04:47.29 | prpplague | sorphin: i feel robbed |
| 04:47.48 | sorphin | prpplague: you didn't like your trailer? *g* |
| 04:50.07 | sorphin | well, i had a shitty evening |
| 04:51.09 | sorphin | i drove all the way to see sarah's final band concert thing, through hail, sheet rain, etc.. get there, they canceled it, i got to see her for like 2 mins, then i killed bout 30 mins, eat mc d's and came back *sigh* |
| 04:52.33 | prpplague | sorphin: nope, i ment town |
| 04:52.43 | prpplague | sorphin: my parents were very well off |
| 04:54.11 | sorphin | 'after this, i'm glad i took tomorrow off, tho still glad i even got to see her at all.. |
| 05:10.08 | prpplague | hmm, got the code for the power button to ignore in the kernel, but still doesn't seem to resume |
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| 05:43.31 | prpplague | ibot: oz bk |
| 05:43.31 | | well, oz bk is bk clone bk://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/collie-opie .config (for zaurus 5000d/5500) .. make oldconfig; make; or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you either cannot or will not use bitkeeper. |
| 05:44.14 | prpplague | well crude, i was hopin to get my z going so i can take it with me but this resume just isn't working |
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| 05:53.04 | prpplague | Russ: yo |
| 05:53.16 | Russ | yo |
| 05:53.34 | Russ | I was playing with firewalling scripts, trying to make them excecute faster |
| 05:59.47 | Russ | iptables -L -v | wc -l : 212 |
| 05:59.56 | Russ | iptables -L -v -t mangle | wc -l : 40 |
| 06:00.03 | Russ | iptables -L -v -t nat | wc -l : 59 |
| 06:00.21 | Russ | the poor little 486 has trouble with changing those around in a decent amount of time |
| 06:09.22 | prpplague | crap i gotta be at the airport in 5 hours |
| 06:10.07 | Russ | that su0rs |
| 06:10.13 | Russ | add an x in there somewhere |
| 06:10.59 | prpplague | Russ: i knew what you ment, however the worst part is my z is not usable for this trip |
| 06:11.01 | prpplague | :( |
| 06:11.20 | prpplague | Russ: of course it wasn't that usuable with opie/qt installed, lol |
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| 12:28.16 | Error403 | TomW: Don't strain a muscle :) |
| 12:29.04 | TomW | the pinky of my right hand aches a little... |
| 12:30.06 | TomW | ... too much coding yesterday, I'll have to goof off today to compensate. |
| 12:30.57 | Error403 | heh |
| 12:33.20 | Error403 | /joine #opie |
| 12:33.24 | Error403 | grr |
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| 13:53.16 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 13:54.15 | jdk | Morning |
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| 14:09.05 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:32.51 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:48.53 | chouimat | http://www.dilbert.com/ |
| 14:51.47 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 14:51.49 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not funny |
| 15:04.46 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: Irish? |
| 15:05.12 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: no, just not funny |
| 15:05.43 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: agreed, more like satire about how sleezy marketing types can be, IMHO |
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| 15:13.58 | CosmicPenguin | I thought Dave was leaving on Thursday? |
| 15:27.00 | kergoth | brb, meeting |
| 15:44.11 | sieve | CosmicPenguin: no... dave left this morning. |
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| 15:50.29 | TimRiker | some nuked the wiki, restoring it at the moment... |
| 15:51.52 | TimRiker | er someone |
| 15:55.46 | TimRiker | wiki is back. one day lost if there were any edits.... |
| 15:56.40 | chouimat | hi TimRiker |
| 16:11.01 | kergoth | hey tim |
| 16:18.11 | Error403 | kergoth: Hey, I talked to Simon and he said you experienced the same problem with Opie that I am (a couple weeks ago). I've located the source of the problem, just not sure what the best way is to tackle it (since some crude fixes cause kernel panics). |
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| 16:21.11 | kergoth | Error403: problem on what device? |
| 16:21.48 | Error403 | kergoth: Tuxscreen, but I'm not too sure that's relavent since a bug like this would show up on any device (and I'm not sure why it doesn't) |
| 16:21.54 | kergoth | uhh |
| 16:21.55 | kergoth | no |
| 16:22.00 | kergoth | it works flawlessly on the c700 |
| 16:22.07 | kergoth | what is the nature of the bug? |
| 16:22.18 | Error403 | kergoth: I realize it works on every other device |
| 16:23.27 | Error403 | kergoth: Well, it seems that QPEApplication::eventFilter() does post events on the mouse moves and mouse clicks, but it never ever gets that far because of an uninitialized variable (or possibly something else in the if() statement) |
| 16:23.52 | kergoth | uninitialized variable where? |
| 16:24.03 | kergoth | qtopia is irrelevent, if theres a problem its in qt/e or tslib |
| 16:24.25 | Error403 | Well, it's in QPE (Qtopia) since Opie uses that. |
| 16:24.35 | Error403 | QPE overrides the mouse events |
| 16:24.40 | Error403 | so Qt/E has no choice |
| 16:25.07 | Error403 | It's in $OPIEDIR/library/qpeapplication.cpp:1563 |
| 16:25.52 | kergoth | qt/e has no choice? |
| 16:26.10 | Error403 | kergoth: No, because as you know Qt/E allows for overriding of events |
| 16:26.18 | Error403 | kergoth: And QPE does just that, it overrides the mouse events |
| 16:27.08 | kergoth | uh |
| 16:27.13 | Error403 | Hopefully the fix doesn't involve code since all of the other devices work |
| 16:27.18 | kergoth | you're clearly looking at one small piece of whole and think you understand it alll. |
| 16:27.34 | kergoth | you're missing an understanding of how it all fits together. |
| 16:27.37 | Error403 | kergoth: I've spent a day tracking this down |
| 16:27.42 | Error403 | No, I understand it quite well |
| 16:27.45 | kergoth | wow, a whole day? |
| 16:27.47 | kergoth | i'm so proud of you |
| 16:28.38 | Error403 | Whatever, I guess I'll just go fsck a tree since it should "just work" |
| 16:29.46 | kergoth | good luck. |
| 16:30.56 | kergoth | so it overrides eventFilter from QApplication |
| 16:31.00 | kergoth | you think that excludes qt/e? |
| 16:31.07 | kergoth | where did you think eventFilter gets called from, hmm? |
| 16:31.52 | Error403 | kergoth: I KNOW Qt/E sends out the events, I've debugged every corner of Qt/E to make sure, but they disappear in that eventFilter |
| 16:32.26 | kergoth | 'so qt/e has no choice' |
| 16:32.38 | kergoth | lets try saying it in a comprehensible fashion, shall we? |
| 16:33.00 | kergoth | what change are you makign to the event filter? |
| 16:33.00 | Error403 | Well, sure, if you remove a bunch of code that allows overriding events |
| 16:33.20 | kergoth | of course qt/e has a choice. the only part of qt/e that isnt run is the original QApplication event filter |
| 16:33.31 | kergoth | QApplication has no choice. qt/e controls everything. |
| 16:33.36 | kergoth | wow, logic. |
| 16:34.11 | Error403 | kergoth: I've tried just removing the if() statement, obviously that doesn't go well, tried removing the check for that stylus variable, but that causes a kernel opps |
| 16:34.15 | Error403 | oops rather |
| 16:34.58 | Error403 | I just found it a minute ago, I'm still checking around to see what I can do |
| 16:35.00 | kergoth | there isnt anything wrong with that if, i'm not following the logic |
| 16:35.28 | Error403 | Well, there really shouldn't be anything wrong with it, but it never gets past that if() |
| 16:35.39 | kergoth | are you saying e is NULL? if so, its a problem elsewhere being exposed here |
| 16:36.06 | Error403 | Not sure if it's 'e', just a sec. |
| 16:37.46 | kergoth | well, its either something wrong with stylusDict or e |
| 16:37.51 | Error403 | right |
| 16:37.58 | kergoth | either of which indicates a problem elsewhere |
| 16:37.58 | kergoth | thats only being EXPOSED here |
| 16:37.58 | Error403 | I'm going to test those variables |
| 16:38.06 | Error403 | correct |
| 16:38.07 | kergoth | which was the point i was trying to make earlier |
| 16:38.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:38.13 | kergoth | brb, coffee |
| 16:38.33 | Error403 | I'm never been good at initial explanations |
| 16:39.04 | Error403 | But I don't need to tell you that |
| 16:42.35 | chouimat | Sourceforget SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:42.43 | kergoth | yep |
| 16:44.17 | chouimat | kergoth: but today it's worse |
| 16:46.16 | Error403 | kergoth: "In QPEApplications::eventFilter(): o is 0x90600 e is 0x93600 stylusDict is 0" |
| 16:46.18 | Error403 | :/ |
| 16:46.30 | kergoth | Error403: thats expected |
| 16:46.35 | kergoth | Error403: in fact, that isnt a problem |
| 16:47.00 | kergoth | Error403: not entering that loop will simply cause the function to return FALSE, and therefore for the event to be dispatched normally rather than to have the special press+hold right button handling |
| 16:47.10 | kergoth | the problem doesnt lie here. |
| 16:47.20 | kergoth | read the docs on eventFilter on trolltech's site |
| 16:48.01 | Error403 | yes yes, it's all coming back to me now |
| 16:50.08 | Error403 | kergoth: That's where I started, I added debugging statements to it and all of the coordinates are correct. The mouseChanged signal gets emmitted |
| 16:54.54 | kergoth | odd. |
| 16:55.29 | Error403 | I'm now looking at the QWSClient::sendEvent in qwindowsystem_qws.cpp:451 |
| 16:55.40 | kergoth | i'd print the info on the event in the eventFilter |
| 16:55.46 | kergoth | make sure the event is sane once it reaches that point |
| 17:01.32 | Error403 | kergoth: "EventFilter's: globalX() is 1, globalY() is 1079798476" |
| 17:01.33 | Error403 | heh |
| 17:01.49 | Error403 | that's the QEvent 'e' casted to a QMouseEvent |
| 17:02.12 | kergoth | fun. so QWSClient is the right direction to look in then. just checking |
| 17:05.46 | Error403 | hmm |
| 17:06.34 | Error403 | in QWSServer::sendMouseEvent it creates a QWSMouseEvent and sends that to the QWSClients, then the QWSClients attempt to cast it to a QMouseEvent |
| 17:09.23 | Error403 | lol |
| 17:09.39 | Error403 | fortunately in this case it makes it easier |
| 17:09.47 | sorphin | Error403: um.. |
| 17:09.49 | Error403 | since there is so much passing around |
| 17:09.54 | sorphin | c++, and easier in the same sentence? |
| 17:09.58 | sorphin | riight |
| 17:10.02 | Error403 | hehe |
| 17:11.21 | sorphin | that's like having a sentence w/ kergoth in it and not including caffeine |
| 17:11.45 | Error403 | oh, nm, it's suppose to be a QWSEvent, not QEvent |
| 17:12.07 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:16.10 | chouimat | sorphin: being sarcastic today ? |
| 17:16.59 | sorphin | chouimat: as opposed to a day when i'm not? |
| 17:17.31 | sorphin | oh wait, that's right, those don't exist :P |
| 17:17.35 | chouimat | sorphin: hehe |
| 17:28.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what up man? Where have you been? |
| 17:28.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: tornados missed you, I trust |
| 17:32.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: barely |
| 17:33.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: last night, i drove all the way to see sarah's final band concert thing, through hail, sheet rain, etc.. get there, they canceled it, i got to see her for like 2 mins, then i killed bout 30 mins, eat mc d's and came back *sigh* |
| 17:33.24 | sorphin | apparently there had been a twister sighted a few mins before i got there, heh |
| 17:33.31 | kergoth | that sucks. |
| 17:34.02 | sorphin | indeed |
| 17:34.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: for my money, tornados are the scariest natural disaster |
| 17:34.19 | sorphin | aside from getting to see her for those couple mins |
| 17:34.22 | sorphin | it all sucked |
| 17:34.50 | sorphin | on the other hand, as a friend of mine pointed out, i prolly scored some major bf points :P |
| 17:35.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats for sure. You'll be able to trade that in a *HUGE* mistake some day |
| 17:35.25 | CosmicPenguin | s/a/for a/ |
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| 17:36.09 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hopefully i won't need to :) already had all the issues i need to have |
| 17:36.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: 2 more days till pixil ;) |
| 17:37.29 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yes indeed. I just got my Z finalized - it seems to be working pretty well |
| 17:37.37 | sorphin | cool deal |
| 17:37.52 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: next up, the Tuxscreen - I'm going for a triple play - Tuxscreen, Ipaq and Zaurus binary images |
| 17:37.56 | sorphin | speaking of all things pixil'd and being MIA, wonder where morn is hiding |
| 17:38.31 | CosmicPenguin | ?? |
| 17:38.36 | CosmicPenguin | Probably hard at work |
| 17:38.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: external or are you gonna shove it in that 4M? :P |
| 17:44.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: shove it in the 4MB, of course |
| 17:44.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm a purist |
| 17:46.37 | chouimat | anyone have an example of sqlite use? |
| 17:46.46 | sorphin | there goes the kitchen sink, and the kitchen for that matter ;) |
| 17:53.46 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: its really easy - the sqlite examples didn't help? |
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| 18:15.10 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I looking at it now |
| 18:15.33 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: was eating my lunch and watching shogun |
| 18:22.48 | CosmicPenguin | sounds like fun to me |
| 18:34.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what a great idea |
| 18:44.12 | sorphin | ;) |
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| 19:13.14 | Error403 | mmm, chinese food |
| 19:15.20 | file | sjhill: Greetings Master MIPs. |
| 19:19.22 | sjhill | hi file |
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| 19:57.24 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: slashdot |
| 19:57.38 | CosmicPenguin | MS Says Longhorn To Arrive 2005 |
| 19:57.43 | CosmicPenguin | Whew - finally |
| 19:58.44 | Error403 | can I participate? grr |
| 20:04.02 | chouimat|afk | kergoth`bbl: don't destroy digi property ... |
| 20:04.08 | kergoth`bbl | why not? |
| 20:04.10 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
| 20:04.25 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`bbl: yeah - they own you at least a dented desk |
| 20:05.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: everyone else has gotten a new job - its your turn |
| 20:07.04 | chouimat|afk | CosmicPenguin: you forgot me ... :) |
| 20:07.11 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: oh, yeah.... |
| 20:07.27 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|afk: I was thinking of the old school regulars, no offense to you |
| 20:08.09 | CosmicPenguin | When the Tuxscreen first started up, Tim was at Lineo, I was at Century, sjhill was bouncing around Broadcom, etc... |
| 20:08.53 | kergoth`bbl | i'm relatively new as well. i dont own a tux :( |
| 20:08.54 | kergoth`bbl | hehe |
| 20:09.23 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`bbl: you used to hang around in #tuxscreen though, didn't you? |
| 20:09.29 | kergoth`bbl | yeah |
| 20:09.40 | kergoth`bbl | lurker |
| 20:09.41 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
| 20:28.11 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 20:39.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah, need one, closer to sarah/where she'll be |
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| 21:11.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I thought you were leaving tommorrow? |
| 21:12.31 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
| 21:21.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nope just arrived at the seattle corp hq |
| 21:42.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: get a chance to look at the latest Linux Journal? |
| 21:42.35 | CosmicPenguin | Big article on our favorite database |
| 21:43.07 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: may? |
| 21:43.16 | CosmicPenguin | June |
| 21:43.26 | kergoth | heard the c700 is in there too eh? |
| 21:43.31 | kergoth | i shoudl resubscribe |
| 21:43.41 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ok I will have it in 2 weeks |
| 21:44.17 | CosmicPenguin | I'm letting mine lapse |
| 21:44.29 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: sqlite article? |
| 21:44.45 | kergoth | that one article about opie by guylhem aznar in lj pissed me off |
| 21:45.01 | CosmicPenguin | It used to be more of a trade mag, but now its just a shill for marketing types |
| 21:45.04 | kergoth | since he got a shitload of stuff completely and absolutely wrong |
| 21:45.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: negative |
| 21:45.14 | kergoth | hows linux magazine nowadays? |
| 21:45.33 | CosmicPenguin | I would like to see a Linux magazine that is filled with technical papers, al-la New England Journal of Medicine |
| 21:45.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not exactly a mag they carry at the sea-tac airport |
| 21:45.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lol |
| 21:46.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is that before or after the long corridor with the Microsoft banner? |
| 21:46.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well, i got accosted at the m$ tablet booth |
| 21:47.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you didn't mention linux did you? |
| 21:47.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: at Sea-Tac, thats grounds for a Patriot act style strip search |
| 21:47.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya,one sec |
| 21:48.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 21:50.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well, i got "would you like to try one of our m$ tablets" "no thanks i don't use microshit products" |
| 21:55.17 | chouimat | hehe |
| 22:05.06 | chouimat | prpplague: know any example of sqlite app? |
| 22:07.57 | prpplague | chouimat: ya my beer app, lol |
| 22:09.29 | chouimat | prpplague: that is very helpful :) |
| 22:12.01 | prpplague | lol, have a look at some of the gpe eapps |
| 22:13.03 | chouimat | prpplague: ok |
| 22:13.36 | chouimat | I'm trying to port an old clipper app to qtopia/opie and kde |
| 22:27.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: pixil is 99% ready to go on the Z |
| 22:27.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: just a few bugs |
| 22:34.44 | prpplague | fun |
| 22:34.55 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:35.12 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:35.18 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah, yeah, I know. |
| 22:35.37 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I'll have the Microwindows soon... the Pixil changes will have to wait until the first source code release... :( |
| 22:35.59 | kergoth | yeah, thats what i figured |
| 22:36.01 | kergoth | not a problem |
| 22:40.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, have dealt with the suspend/resume issues on the cancel/power button? |
| 22:40.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: on the Z? |
| 22:40.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya |
| 22:40.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: kinda - I can make the damn thing resume... :) |
| 22:40.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: sometimes |
| 22:40.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it has an automatic timeout |
| 22:40.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm having problems getting it to resume |
| 22:40.48 | kergoth | 1) dont run apmd unless you call apm -s to suspend, 2) use the ioctl to disable kernel power button press catch |
| 22:40.56 | prpplague | kergoth: done both |
| 22:41.10 | prpplague | kergoth: still noda |
| 22:41.10 | kergoth | if apmd isnt running, it'll resume. |
| 22:41.17 | kergoth | if not, you're doing something wrong |
| 22:41.25 | kergoth | brb |
| 22:41.31 | prpplague | kergoth: works fine from console, just when x is running |
| 22:42.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I've had similar issues - but using apm -S seems to work ok for me. |
| 22:43.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm just not sure how I can make it suspend on demand |
| 22:43.40 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: pixel got a new web browser yet? |
| 22:44.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: -S ? or just -s? |
| 22:44.10 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: Nope - still good ol' ViewML |
| 22:44.12 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: or have you gotten the existing one to work with uclibc? if so put out a tuxscreen image. ;-) |
| 22:44.39 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: I'm trying my best |
| 22:44.53 | TimRiker | sweet. keep us posted. |
| 22:44.57 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: I'm not sure I can fit it into 4BM though |
| 22:45.23 | glytchbinary | damnit |
| 22:45.35 | glytchbinary | drive 45minutes up there, and they don't have me in the system to get my badge yet... |
| 22:45.40 | glytchbinary | so i get to drive back tomorrow |
| 22:45.50 | glytchbinary | and then i will be apon you! |
| 22:47.08 | glytchbinary | especially you |
| 22:47.20 | glytchbinary | you've been nominated to be my question answering guy (: |
| 22:47.39 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds like a threat to me |
| 22:48.00 | prpplague | kergoth: ya, i've tried it exactly as you said, but while x is running now resume |
| 22:48.14 | kergoth | and you're calling apm -s from X to suspend? |
| 22:48.18 | kergoth | or using an ioctl on apm_bios? |
| 22:48.33 | prpplague | kergoth: apm -s |
| 22:48.45 | kergoth | so X is doing something stupid |
| 22:48.55 | prpplague | thats what i'm thinking |
| 22:49.09 | CosmicPenguin | stupid quesiton - is it setting the console to graphics mode? |
| 22:49.14 | prpplague | because the x version i built was 4.1 and it doesn't do this |
| 22:49.24 | CosmicPenguin | Because I've had problems with that |
| 22:49.38 | prpplague | kergoth: i copied my old x to the latest buildroot and it works |
| 22:49.44 | prpplague | kergoth: just not with mallums 4.3 |
| 23:02.25 | legodude | chouimat: you speak french? |
| 23:02.52 | chouimat | yes |
| 23:05.27 | chouimat | TimRiker: hahaha |
| 23:05.59 | TimRiker | ~x en fr welcome to the french #eLinux IRC channel |
| 23:06.27 | chouimat | my eyes!! |
| 23:06.43 | legodude | chouimat: what's proper spelling of remacher? |
| 23:06.52 | legodude | not mine! |
| 23:06.55 | CosmicPenguin | Not mine |
| 23:06.56 | chouimat | not mine |
| 23:07.06 | glytchbinary | looked fine here |
| 23:07.23 | legodude | are there supposed to be accents on it? |
| 23:07.29 | legodude | (remacher) |
| 23:07.36 | TimRiker | -glytchbinary- VERSION xchat 2.0.1 Linux 2.4.20 [i686/731MHz] |
| 23:07.57 | chouimat | legodude: remâcher |
| 23:08.05 | legodude | danke |
| 23:08.25 | chouimat | don't know the english word for that accent |
| 23:08.34 | legodude | me neither |
| 23:08.38 | legodude | google still doesn't like it |
| 23:08.58 | legodude | "de boire mon the en pensant simplement a mes ennuis d'aujourd'hui, a mes desirs de demain qui se laissent remâcher sans peine" |
| 23:09.33 | legodude | caret |
| 23:09.39 | legodude | circonflexe? |
| 23:10.03 | TimRiker | ~x en fr A with a hat |
| 23:10.15 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:10.23 | chouimat | de boire mon thé en pensant simplement à mes ennuis d'aujourd'hui, à mes désirs de demain qui se laissent remâcher sans peine |
| 23:10.39 | TimRiker | ~x en fr de boire mon thé en pensant simplement à mes ennuis d'aujourd'hui, à mes désirs de demain qui se laissent remâcher sans peine |
| 23:10.49 | TimRiker | ~x fr en de boire mon thé en pensant simplement à mes ennuis d'aujourd'hui, à mes désirs de demain qui se laissent remâcher sans peine |
| 23:11.16 | chouimat | damn! I hate the french canadian layout |
| 23:11.19 | glytchbinary | wtf does that mean.. |
| 23:12.22 | chouimat | glytchbinary: some thing like: to drink my tea while thinking about my today toubles, to my tomorrow desirs .... |
| 23:12.23 | legodude | nothing knows what remâcher means :( |
| 23:14.15 | chouimat | legodude: it that context remacher mean "to think only of something, with sorrow,, anger ...." |
| 23:14.26 | legodude | ah |
| 23:14.27 | legodude | thanks |
| 23:14.41 | chouimat | np |
| 23:15.00 | chouimat | cd |
| 23:19.11 | prpplague | kergoth: think i found the x issue |
| 23:19.19 | legodude | ah |
| 23:19.20 | prpplague | kergoth: gonna do a fresh build and test |
| 23:19.44 | CosmicPenguin | grr.... stupid Microwindows keyboard crap |
| 23:19.57 | chouimat | legodude: ? |
| 23:21.20 | legodude | wrong window |
| 23:25.00 | chouimat | ok brb need to go buy some food and beer ... maybe a beef ramen stirfry tonight |
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| 23:25.19 | chouimat|afk | hi TomW |
| 23:25.25 | TomW | chouimat|afk: The DTC is in the mail, I sent it airmail. |
| 23:25.40 | chouimat|afk | TomW: ok received the money order? |
| 23:25.43 | TomW | Postal service, you should have it in about 7..10 days. |
| 23:25.56 | TomW | chouimat|afk: yup, got it this afternoon. |
| 23:25.59 | chouimat|afk | ok thanks ... |
| 23:26.03 | TomW | np |
| 23:26.14 | file | chouimat|afk: how much are money orders now? |
| 23:26.42 | CosmicPenguin | Later folks |
| 23:26.42 | chouimat|afk | 3 or 4 cad depend of the currency ... GBP money order is 4.75cad |
| 23:26.46 | chouimat|afk | bye ccP |
| 23:26.52 | file | chouimat|afk: k |