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00:24.09 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: it appears that the ipaq doesn't do CIR (as per Compaq) but there seem to be several IR Remote type apps for the ipaq |
00:24.14 | Morn | so I'm a little confused |
00:25.13 | Russ | FIR can emulate CIR |
00:25.26 | Russ | (both read and write) |
00:26.15 | Morn | Russ: do you know of any documentation on WinCE of how to do this? |
00:29.22 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: but you gotta get up close and personal with the app |
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01:19.49 | chouimat|food | ~lart chops |
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01:20.28 | CosmicPenguin | Where's sorphin when you need him? He's got ops |
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01:21.44 | chouimat|food | kergoth`tv: TimRiker sorphin: ping? |
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01:22.07 | chouimat|food | ~lart chops |
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01:22.50 | chouimat | chops: can you stop that .... you moron |
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01:41.30 | chouimat | tabarnack! chops as-tu finis de faire le calice de cave? |
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01:42.50 | chouimat | hey ljp |
01:42.56 | ljp | hooochie! |
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01:43.41 | ljp | oh thats slick |
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01:43.54 | chouimat | ljp: 1 hour of that |
01:44.02 | ljp | TimRiker: ping |
01:44.13 | ljp | kergoth`tv: ping |
01:44.18 | chouimat | sorphin: ping |
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01:44.45 | chouimat | chops: can you stop ? please? |
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01:44.55 | ljp | mm1 are you ops here? |
01:45.13 | ljp | ibot: seen TimRiker |
01:45.14 | | timriker is currently on #opie (7h 58m 43s) #zaurus (7h 58m 43s) #elinux (7h 58m 43s) #openembedded (7h 58m 43s) #utah (7h 58m 43s) #bzflag (7h 58m 43s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 7h 4m 29s |
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01:46.56 | chouimat|tv | bbl I can't stand that intelligent conversation naymmore |
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01:50.12 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf? |
01:50.13 | TheMasterMind1 | sto pit |
01:50.15 | TheMasterMind1 | stop it |
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02:01.15 | *** kick/#elinux [chops!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] by kergoth`tv (fucking idiot.) |
02:01.16 | chouimat|tv | ibot chops |
02:01.17 | | chouimat|tv: no idea |
02:01.25 | chouimat|tv | kergoth`tv: thanks |
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02:23.24 | MonMotha | wow, you can actually kickban on "freenode" |
02:31.30 | sorphin | erm |
02:31.37 | sorphin | 'that damn thing filled my scrollback |
02:31.42 | kergoth`tv | yep |
02:32.16 | sorphin | is that ------- all they kept doing? |
02:32.31 | sorphin | last thing i *saw* was morn talking about a pocket pc + her changer |
02:54.02 | chouimat|afk | sorphin: hey |
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03:48.59 | kergoth | BZFlag: hey tim |
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04:15.13 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
04:15.37 | Russ | wtf is up with these "it's normal behaviour for a linux kernel on systems without a hardware clock, it sets the time to some random value" weirdos |
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05:22.28 | Russ | hmmm "USER_AGENT_XIMIAN" |
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06:32.13 | sorphin | well, got the diag menu up atleast |
06:47.32 | sorphin | all checksums are good cept zimage |
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12:44.40 | sjhill | hi GPSFan |
12:44.48 | sjhill | hello everyone |
12:44.58 | sjhill | ~ibot bitchslap sorphin |
12:44.59 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sorphin |
12:49.28 | GPSFan | hi sjhill, rainina cats & dogs here.. |
12:49.48 | GPSFan | raining that is ;) |
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13:22.10 | prpplague | morning all |
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14:06.52 | sorphin | lo |
14:08.36 | sjhill | hi sorphin |
14:08.52 | sorphin | sup mipsboy |
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14:09.25 | sjhill | well.....mips since you asked |
14:10.01 | sorphin | sjhill: gee.. big shock there :P |
14:18.30 | JulieWork | morning all |
14:18.45 | prpplague | JulieWork: morning |
14:19.00 | prpplague | JulieWork: totally abandoning your highland nick? |
14:19.12 | JulieWork | no, I use Morn from home |
14:19.29 | JulieWork | maybe I should use MornWork? |
14:19.36 | sjhill | *nod* |
14:20.05 | JulieWork | on oftc.net I use the nick Julie |
14:23.13 | sorphin | prpplague: hey |
14:23.47 | MornWork | some of the channels I like moved when the whole Lilo broadcasting thing happened |
14:24.03 | prpplague | sorphin: ho |
14:24.07 | MornWork | this channel is one of the reasons I didn't abandon freelode. |
14:24.14 | sorphin | prpplague: you have your Z with you? |
14:24.18 | prpplague | MornWork: same here |
14:24.22 | prpplague | sorphin: yes |
14:24.42 | sorphin | prpplague: you have anything in it's ram that you'd hate to lose? |
14:25.01 | prpplague | sorphin: no, but this is a brand new one thats not loaded with OZ |
14:25.08 | sorphin | prpplague: that's fine |
14:25.13 | sorphin | i don't need OZ, etc for this |
14:25.15 | prpplague | sorphin: ok |
14:25.57 | prpplague | MornWork: how come you didn't get one from hsn when they were on sale |
14:26.10 | MornWork | prpplague: because I didn't know? |
14:26.38 | sorphin | prpplague: i got my Z into diag mode last night, and had some fun, but it also can toss me into cf update mode (turns out, the only thing that appears borked is my zimage, the checksums on everything else are fine) |
14:26.39 | prpplague | sorphin: are you talking about doing the c+d power on flash? |
14:26.55 | sorphin | prpplague: that'd be the cf update mode, yes |
14:26.58 | MornWork | what is a good price for a Z? |
14:27.09 | prpplague | sorphin: ok then what? |
14:27.23 | sorphin | prpplague: if you do that w/ no cf in the Z |
14:27.28 | sorphin | does it do/say anything/leds, etc |
14:27.31 | sorphin | or just nothing |
14:27.38 | MornWork | the seem to be between $130 and $150 for the SL5500 |
14:27.45 | sorphin | Morn: good prices |
14:28.49 | prpplague | sorphin: no cf appears to do nothing |
14:28.56 | sorphin | prpplague: reason i asked bout your ram, is that if i had to take the Z into actual diag mode |
14:28.59 | sorphin | it clears the ram |
14:29.09 | sorphin | prpplague: k, cool |
14:29.15 | sorphin | looks like i might be ok then |
14:29.43 | sorphin | prpplague: fyi, diag mode is P+D on a full reset |
14:29.48 | sorphin | if you didn't know |
14:29.50 | MornWork | I just bid on one new in the box |
14:29.53 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
14:30.12 | CosmicPenguin | Did someone end up kicking that jackass from last night then? |
14:30.14 | sorphin | prpplague: i was able to see/check the checksums of the flash |
14:30.34 | sorphin | everything is clean cept the ROM cs and the zimage cs, so i'm gonna dig up a cf briefly and try |
14:30.34 | MornWork | CosmicPenguin: you said last night that the Z can do CIR right? |
14:31.19 | sorphin | Morn: it can atleast do SIR, dunno bout FIR/CIR tho |
14:31.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: kergoth did |
14:31.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i would have had i been watching this window |
14:32.32 | MornWork | ok, someone has a bunch of Z's new in box with warrenty for $120-150, I'll get ONE of them :-) |
14:32.39 | sorphin | hehe |
14:40.44 | CosmicPenguin | MornWork: I know that some PDA had a CIR built in, and I thought it was Linux based |
14:40.50 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe it was the Agenda |
14:41.08 | prpplague | iirc vr3 did |
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14:44.25 | sieve | morning all |
14:45.07 | signal11 | good morning |
14:45.31 | sorphin | prpplague: you lil pos thing from ebay show yet? |
14:46.37 | chouimat | wooohoooo I only pay 290CAD of taxes this years!!!! |
14:46.41 | sorphin | +r |
14:47.07 | chouimat | sorphin: sorry ... |
14:47.09 | prpplague | sorphin: which item is that? |
14:47.36 | sorphin | the mips toy right before you left for "vacation" |
14:48.40 | sorphin | prpplague: the symbol 2700 |
14:48.55 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: you here? |
14:49.25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I should probably pick one of those up too, as soon as we get Linux running on it |
14:51.04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and pixil *g* |
14:53.52 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: well sort of - Pixil is a complete operating system |
14:54.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but I probably wouldn't stick the PIMs on there, for example |
14:54.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i know |
14:54.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i was more 'pixil takes over the world', run it on everything (like linux *g*) |
14:57.21 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, it came in, got vr-linux booting, but haven't had time to dremel the screws off so i can get to the internal pcmcia slot |
14:57.33 | sorphin | ah |
15:00.39 | chouimat | prpplague: symbol?? |
15:01.04 | sorphin | chouimat: google for symbol 2700 :P |
15:01.18 | prpplague | chouimat: ya its vr4181 based |
15:01.34 | prpplague | chouimat: basically a nicer vr3 |
15:03.56 | chouimat | prpplague: ok ... |
15:11.42 | CosmicPenguin | Rain again |
15:11.58 | CosmicPenguin | Like manna from heaven, or something |
15:13.08 | sorphin | heh |
15:14.34 | sorphin | fyi |
15:14.52 | sorphin | pricewatch is showing 512M cf for 92$ (dunno how cheap that is) |
15:14.57 | signal11 | hopefully they'll cancel that water price increase if we keep getting rain |
15:15.04 | signal11 | our bill is going to go up like 30% |
15:15.27 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats way cheap |
15:15.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well there ya go then |
15:15.46 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: part of that increase was to pay for more security, I know that much |
15:16.18 | sorphin | you pay for water? *g* |
15:18.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I suppose you run out side and take a shower when its raining? |
15:18.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no, our condos pay the water bill :P |
15:18.32 | sorphin | and garbage, and sewer :P |
15:18.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so you do pay for it |
15:19.23 | sorphin | i don't |
15:19.50 | sorphin | ker :yo |
15:19.54 | sorphin | kergoth: yo even |
15:19.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: *you* might be a freeloader, but somewhere along the line, somebody is paying, so clam up, will ya? |
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15:20.04 | sorphin | hehe |
15:20.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i'm no freeloader |
15:20.27 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: any news about chops? :) |
15:20.28 | kergoth | hey |
15:20.39 | sorphin | kergoth: turns out |
15:20.45 | sorphin | kergoth: my flash may not be totally hosed |
15:20.49 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: apparently kergoth took care of it |
15:20.54 | sorphin | kergoth: i popped the Z into diag mode last night |
15:20.56 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I know |
15:21.07 | sorphin | kergoth: the only csums that were bad were the zimage and the rom cs |
15:21.23 | sorphin | kergoth: cf updater checks out, so i'm gonna try and cf update this bitch |
15:21.24 | kergoth | hmm |
15:21.27 | kergoth | cool |
15:21.38 | sorphin | i had dave confirm somethin for me |
15:21.42 | sorphin | w/ no cf in the slow |
15:21.48 | sorphin | cf update does/shows nothing |
15:21.52 | sorphin | which is what i figured |
15:22.28 | sorphin | kergoth: plus the fact that i get into diag mode, kinda led me to believe something's still intact :P that plus it shows version 2.38 still :P |
15:22.39 | kergoth | yeah, cool |
15:22.50 | kergoth | in other words, its not a brick |
15:22.56 | kergoth | just unbootable |
15:23.04 | sorphin | right |
15:23.09 | sorphin | no zimage kinda does that ;) |
15:23.13 | kergoth | hehe |
15:23.20 | sorphin | what a conincidence that's what i was toying w/ |
15:23.22 | sorphin | when it crashed |
15:23.24 | sorphin | the zimage ;p |
15:23.32 | sorphin | kergoth: btw, dunn oif you saw above |
15:23.38 | sorphin | 512M cf for $92 |
15:24.06 | chouimat | sorphin: wow! |
15:24.31 | sorphin | 92, then 97, then one up |
15:25.18 | chouimat | sorphin: lexar 512MB 12X CF are 280CAD here :( |
15:25.27 | kergoth | nice |
15:25.37 | sorphin | chouimat: umm.. look on pricewatch :P |
15:26.07 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: see any cheap USB storage dongles? |
15:26.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah, the usb pen things? |
15:26.34 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: since the Epia will boot from USB, it might be cool to boot from one of those instead |
15:26.36 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah |
15:26.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: checking 9was looking at those once before) |
15:27.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: how big? |
15:27.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what've you got? |
15:27.42 | sorphin | 64M for 22 |
15:27.54 | CosmicPenguin | not too shabby |
15:28.20 | sorphin | 128M for 33 |
15:30.57 | sorphin | 256M for 55 |
15:31.36 | CosmicPenguin | hmm..... |
15:38.29 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: epia? |
15:39.39 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: Via Epia - new multimedia platform with all the good stuff |
15:40.18 | CosmicPenguin | signal11, jacques_gone: Heard back from Via - the only documentation they are releasing are the full XFree86 drivers |
15:40.39 | CosmicPenguin | So I guess its time to start reverse engineering to get an accelerated framebuffer |
15:40.41 | signal11 | what about the audio |
15:40.57 | signal11 | i'm using 2.4.20-ac2 and it skips |
15:41.01 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: I have the audio drivers - but they're under NDA. Doesn't ALSA work? |
15:41.09 | CosmicPenguin | s/drivers/docs/ |
15:41.19 | signal11 | i haven't tried alsa, i heard it is worse than 2.4.20-ac2 |
15:42.11 | signal11 | and this is weird too: |
15:42.23 | signal11 | when i power it up in the cubicle next to me, the network works |
15:42.33 | signal11 | when I plug it into mine, it fails |
15:42.43 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: bad MII, I'll bet you |
15:42.55 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: no offense, but those switches you are using don't play nice sometimes |
15:43.06 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: I used to have that problem all the time when I was in the cube |
15:43.13 | signal11 | the hubs are flaky, definitely |
16:34.08 | chouimat | hmmm gba sp or no gba sp? |
16:35.43 | sorphin | heh |
16:36.48 | prpplague | kergoth: man the boys at digi are as bad about patching stuff as sco is/was |
16:37.35 | chouimat | sorphin: I want one (GP32) but I don't know where to order it in canada |
16:37.56 | prpplague | chouimat: the place listed on the /. ships international |
16:37.57 | ade|desk | morning all! |
16:37.59 | sorphin | chouimat: damn canadians ;) |
16:38.00 | prpplague | chouimat: very prompt |
16:38.08 | sorphin | ade|desk: afternoon mate |
16:38.20 | prpplague | chouimat: got mine in 4 days from the uk |
16:38.22 | chouimat | prpplague: ok ... but since I don't have a CC that will be hard for me |
16:38.28 | ade|desk | sorphin: whats happend in the world of late? |
16:38.43 | sorphin | ade|desk: no idea |
16:38.58 | prpplague | chouimat: yep |
16:39.03 | ade|desk | chouimat: what are you after? |
16:39.11 | prpplague | ade|desk: gp32 |
16:39.52 | prpplague | chouimat: funny thing, i've been so busy, its still sitting around unused :( |
16:40.31 | prpplague | chouimat: i've got to get a couple sm cards |
16:40.40 | sorphin | prpplague: those are easy to get |
16:41.07 | ade|desk | what the heck is a GP32? |
16:41.18 | sorphin | ibot: gp32 |
16:41.19 | | somebody said gp32 was http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/03/1530224&mode=thread&tid=127 |
16:41.26 | kergoth | prpplague: ? none of your patches got merged? |
16:41.28 | ade|desk | ta |
16:42.00 | sorphin | ade|desk: how's the ex's h.o.n. score? *g* |
16:42.32 | chouimat | prpplague: ok they accept postal order but I don'tt know if that will be ok ... |
16:43.29 | ade|desk | sorphin: haven't a clue sorry |
16:43.40 | ade|desk | how can you check ? |
16:43.57 | sorphin | ade|desk: hit her url |
16:45.27 | chouimat | prpplague: the gp32 came with what? |
16:47.49 | ade|desk | bugger cant find the log with the url :( |
16:48.10 | prpplague | sorphin: ya just time issue |
16:48.18 | prpplague | kergoth: nope, not that i can see |
16:48.19 | sorphin | ade|desk: you had no probs finding it the other day when you were also showing pics |
16:48.38 | prpplague | chouimat: gp32, dev cd, usb cable |
16:48.42 | ade|desk | yeah but i'm on a diff pc now :( |
16:48.46 | chouimat | prpplague: good |
16:48.47 | sorphin | ade|desk: bah |
16:49.09 | ade|desk | sorphin: am looking through my desktop's gaim logs |
16:49.11 | chouimat | prpplague: I just send them an email aabout paying with a money order :) |
16:49.31 | ade|desk | sorphin: dont you have a log where it is ? |
16:49.51 | sorphin | ade|desk: no, cuz i lynx'd it that day at home |
16:50.04 | sorphin | and i'm not searching ibot's logs ;) |
16:50.18 | sorphin | cuz i dont' even remember the exact day |
16:50.21 | kergoth | prpplague: digi sucks, what can i say |
16:50.33 | sorphin | prpplague: you missed it btw |
16:50.42 | kergoth | prpplague: i have a shitload of patches to revamp the buildsystems of every driver, but i doubt i'll bother to send it to them |
16:50.47 | sorphin | prpplague: saw both ade's current and ex gfs pics |
16:51.09 | chouimat | kergoth: George- is leaving in a couple of hours for 3 months |
16:51.31 | kergoth | chouimat: yay |
16:51.53 | prpplague | ade|desk: doh where? |
16:52.04 | sorphin | prpplague: hold |
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16:52.09 | prpplague | i thought we were getting pics of someones sister :) |
16:52.21 | chouimat | prpplague: lol |
16:52.34 | ade|home | osrry folks please repeat ... damn fecking isdn drops |
16:52.39 | sorphin | prpplague: ok, wheres yours? |
16:52.46 | sorphin | ade|desk: where's the beth.org ones? |
16:52.50 | sorphin | erm |
16:52.51 | sorphin | beth2.org |
16:53.36 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, ade's last name is your 1st name, sorta :P |
16:53.39 | ade|home | ? |
16:53.41 | sorphin | 'davey' |
16:53.46 | sorphin | *g* |
16:53.50 | ade|home | whats up ? |
16:53.59 | sorphin | ade|desk: the pics of your current bint and your ex were also on beth2 |
16:54.22 | ade|home | indeed .. they 'were' |
16:54.30 | sorphin | heh |
16:55.06 | ade|home | muhhahaha |
16:55.22 | ade|home | i have more pics of debbie now :) |
16:55.24 | sorphin | ade|desk: was just gonna show them to prpplague |
16:55.34 | sorphin | since he did have a bid on one of the 2 |
16:55.55 | ade|home | he did ? |
16:55.55 | sorphin | prpplague: he even has nudies of his ex, but won't share :P |
16:56.09 | sorphin | ade|desk: or was it your sister? |
16:56.12 | sorphin | i forget |
16:56.31 | sorphin | ade|home: kill your ghost :P |
16:56.34 | ade|home | my sis |
16:56.45 | sorphin | ah |
16:56.56 | sorphin | ade|desk: he might not mind the ex tho |
16:57.02 | ade|home | wish i could .. it won't go :( |
16:57.09 | sorphin | umm |
16:57.21 | ade|home | sorphin: haha have the slapper |
16:57.35 | sorphin | ade|desk: show him her |
16:57.39 | sorphin | he's not picky |
16:58.02 | sorphin | ade|desk: as long as she'll get him a beer |
16:58.04 | sorphin | he's happy |
16:58.22 | ade|home | vodka maybe .. never beer |
16:58.28 | ade|home | she is finnish |
16:58.39 | prpplague | ade|home: doh! you have nudies and won't share!!! shame on you!! |
16:58.52 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah, i already gave him a hard time on that |
16:58.54 | chouimat | pictures! |
16:58.55 | ade|home | she is a 'large' girl |
16:59.00 | sorphin | ade|desk: so? |
16:59.06 | sorphin | so is my gf |
16:59.25 | prpplague | ade|home: ya i was current high bidder for your sis, i deserve a pic |
16:59.33 | sorphin | tho she's determined to lose some now |
16:59.44 | ade|home | like if she buys undies .. they are sized as 'oh my god lose weight woman!' |
17:00.04 | sorphin | ade|desk: heh, m ygf wears a 20 atm *shrug* |
17:00.16 | chouimat | sorphin: 20? |
17:00.21 | sorphin | size 20 |
17:00.24 | ade|home | prpplague: i'll take a foto of rebecca tonight when she is home from work |
17:00.36 | chouimat | sorphin: my ex-wife was about size 2 |
17:00.37 | sorphin | ade|home: for all to see ;) |
17:00.41 | ade|home | sorphin: thats a bit smaller than sara |
17:00.45 | sorphin | chouimat: so you said |
17:01.04 | sorphin | ade|home: well, you obviously didn't mind :P you were the one shagging her |
17:01.06 | prpplague | chouimat: ya my soon-to-be-ex was a size 2 |
17:01.19 | chouimat | sorphin: I will find some photo ... I will go to my mother house in 3 weeks |
17:01.22 | ade|home | yeah i reckon i can post becs picture no problem |
17:01.45 | sorphin | depending on how she looks, i might just outbid dave *g* |
17:01.45 | ade|home | prpplague: so-to-be- ?? |
17:01.56 | sorphin | ade|home: yeah, she's still around |
17:02.06 | chouimat | ade|home: she ditched him :) |
17:02.14 | ade|home | ah |
17:03.20 | chouimat | ok ramen or I go take lunch in a restaurant |
17:03.32 | sorphin | ramen |
17:03.53 | ade|home | pot noodle |
17:04.12 | sorphin | ade|desk: when i came back here, i brought potmash back w/ me |
17:04.52 | ade|home | please do that again.. maybe we can get rid of all that shit food from the UK |
17:05.14 | chouimat | potmash? |
17:05.43 | ade|home | mash potato in a pot : just add hot water |
17:05.54 | ade|home | nasty no taste food |
17:06.14 | ade|home | and from bland-food-you-like-UK .. that is harsh |
17:06.17 | chouimat | ade|desk: ok papper :) |
17:07.37 | ade|home | i hate people who cant setup a simple ntp client so they send out mail at the correct time/date |
17:07.40 | ade|home | grrr |
17:08.48 | prpplague | ade|home: she needed someone fresh to suck the life out of....... |
17:10.09 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
17:11.05 | ade|home | prpplague: hmmm |
17:11.41 | ade|home | i go away for a few days .. and the update on debian is 56Meg |
17:12.06 | ade|home | pesky people always updating their damn buggy utils |
17:27.23 | CosmicPenguin | Argh - die STL, die! |
17:27.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: eh? |
17:28.57 | CosmicPenguin | vector<string, allocator<string> > |
17:29.00 | CosmicPenguin | What the hell is that? |
17:29.12 | CosmicPenguin | Why would anyone in their right mind think thats a good idea to use? |
17:29.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no idea |
17:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: i"m a pretty open minded guy - hell, I even went to a Java users group meeting last week |
17:30.03 | CosmicPenguin | but I draw the line at STL |
17:30.26 | sorphin | ah |
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17:43.34 | sorphin | GPSFan: allo |
17:43.56 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: the STL's syntax makes sense |
17:44.11 | GPSFan | hi dan |
17:44.13 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: the only problem I have with the STL is the terrible code space bloat it causes... |
17:44.24 | CosmicPenguin | scanline: you're a closet C++ fan? Who've guessed? |
17:44.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: closet? |
17:44.42 | sorphin | i thought everyone knew he was |
17:44.44 | sorphin | ;) |
17:44.58 | CosmicPenguin | I had no idea - what with the PicoGUI and the heavy C hacking |
17:45.11 | sorphin | hehe |
17:45.13 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: I like C++ |
17:45.20 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: I just don't use it for embedded generally |
17:45.37 | CosmicPenguin | scanline: I like C++ classes, but the other crap I can loose |
17:45.53 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: exceptions are very handy |
17:46.12 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: I want to use c++ for pg2 just for exceptions and classes, but I probably won't because people tell me there are still a bunch of embedded platforms that don't support c++ |
17:46.14 | scanline | bbl, lunchtime |
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18:27.46 | signal11 | ack |
18:30.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: have I mentioned lately that you are the bomb digitty? |
18:31.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ? |
18:31.42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just had a short meeting with the UPS guy |
18:31.47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it ended well.... :) |
18:32.15 | CosmicPenguin | lets get pixilated! |
18:32.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool |
18:36.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just asked Greg for permission to distribute Z .ipks for Microwindows and Pixil - he really has no reason to say no |
18:36.33 | cosmic_errands | Off to mail wedding invites |
18:38.17 | prpplague | cool deal |
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19:13.39 | file | GReetings all. |
19:13.50 | file | er Greetings |
19:16.17 | MornWork | woot! it appears as if the Zaurus can do CIR |
19:16.25 | MornWork | now I *REALLY* want one |
19:16.36 | sorphin | hehe |
19:16.46 | sorphin | MornWork: and pixil too ;) |
19:16.51 | file | MornWork: it's not worth going into debt over, but if you have the extra cash - might be a good investment |
19:16.57 | sorphin | heh |
19:17.17 | sorphin | file: she just bought a 200 disc dvd changer :P |
19:17.22 | MornWork | If I can win this ebay thing for under $130 for the Z it won't be bad |
19:17.30 | sorphin | i think she can handle a Z |
19:17.42 | sorphin | MornWork: you'll be lucky if you get 130 |
19:17.43 | MornWork | I want the Z to do the DVD Changer Controller |
19:17.50 | sorphin | i paid 175 eons ago |
19:19.02 | MornWork | 6 hours left in the bidding |
19:19.10 | MornWork | I'm so used to bidding on stuff no one else is |
19:19.54 | sorphin | nod |
19:20.00 | sorphin | i'm used to the opposite |
19:20.16 | MornWork | I tend to bid on books that aren't in heavy demand |
19:20.29 | MornWork | too bad I messed up that one though, I wanted those books |
19:21.17 | signal11 | heh the name Itanic just kills me every time the register uses it |
19:22.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: PIXIL! *g* |
19:23.40 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: indeed |
19:25.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: on the off chance greg says no |
19:25.39 | sorphin | beat him w/ his checkbook |
19:28.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: that would hurt |
19:28.45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: he's earned it :P |
19:29.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: don't bad mouth him too much - after all, he's come this far |
19:29.33 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: with the way Pixil was on Jan 4, 2002 it would have never been in a state suitable for the Z |
19:29.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well... he's also put you through hell while doing it |
19:29.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: that happens |
19:30.27 | sorphin | yay |
19:30.36 | sorphin | my microscope cleared customs |
19:30.40 | sorphin | i'm not being filed |
19:31.32 | file | why would you? |
19:31.52 | sorphin | file: well, it DID come from ontario |
19:32.05 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
19:32.06 | file | hehe |
19:32.26 | sorphin | it's in detroit atm |
19:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so the department of Homeland security judged you to be innocent, eh? |
19:32.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so it would seem |
19:49.34 | CosmicPenguin | What is it about the word Zaurus that make it so hard for me to type? |
19:49.40 | sorphin | hehe |
19:49.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i only call it a Z |
19:52.22 | CosmicPenguin | WFRR baby! |
19:53.53 | sorphin | hehe |
20:10.12 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the recommended OZ def-config for the SL-5500? |
20:10.21 | kergoth | collie-opie |
20:10.23 | kergoth | assuming you want opie |
20:10.28 | kergoth | collie-minimal for console only |
20:10.34 | CosmicPenguin | sweet |
20:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | why collie? |
20:10.56 | kergoth | ibot: collie |
20:10.57 | | i guess collie is sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
20:11.01 | kergoth | sharp's machine type naming |
20:11.03 | kergoth | ibot: poodle |
20:11.04 | | poodle is probably sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog |
20:11.05 | kergoth | ibot: corgi |
20:11.05 | | it has been said that corgi is sharp sl-c700, or a dog |
20:11.05 | CosmicPenguin | really? |
20:11.10 | kergoth | yep |
20:11.11 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a new one |
20:11.17 | kergoth | i.e. arch/arm/mach-sa1100/collie.c |
20:11.24 | kergoth | dont ask me why they named them after dogs |
20:11.25 | kergoth | heh |
20:11.31 | CosmicPenguin | My personal favorite has always been islands |
20:11.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yes really |
20:11.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: scary as it is |
20:12.20 | sorphin | kergoth: maybe something they ate? :P i dunno |
20:12.39 | CosmicPenguin | When I worked at Enterasys I worked on Guam, Hawaii and Midway |
20:12.46 | sorphin | heh |
20:12.50 | kergoth | heheh |
20:13.15 | CosmicPenguin | Midway was my favorite - I printed out a huge picture of Admiral Nimitz, and pasted it to the front of my project notebook |
20:16.40 | CosmicPenguin | Dogs are good because there are lots of them, and they are easy to spell |
20:19.05 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: is 2.4.19 ok, or should I stick with the old kernel? |
20:20.17 | chouimat | grrrr will need to go on adsl next year :( |
20:21.34 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: stick with 2.4.6. 2.4.19 needs finishing touches. |
20:23.13 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: got it |
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20:38.52 | CosmicPenguin | uclibc is down |
20:47.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: didn't andersee say there was a cachin dns problem |
20:54.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I don't recall |
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21:01.12 | chouimat | grrr |
21:20.57 | chouimat | fuck! my cat took my book |
21:21.49 | kergoth | hrm |
21:22.38 | sorphin | heh |
21:38.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: same problem with busybox.net then, eh? |
21:39.06 | file | heh - Netware4Linux |
21:39.08 | file | interesting concept |
21:41.21 | signal11 | file: about 12 years too late though |
21:41.33 | signal11 | that should have been the first order of business when they bought unixware |
21:41.53 | file | (Caldera did it - abandoned it in 1999 though) |
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22:16.53 | chouimat | coool : http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Orbital%20Eunuchs%20Sniper |
22:17.37 | Russ | anyone know any disadvantages of LTV logic over LVC? |
22:17.42 | Russ | it seems cheaper and faster |
22:18.36 | Russ | s/LVC/ALVC/ |
22:19.01 | file | darn |
22:19.09 | file | these Netware4Linux binaries won't run... |
22:19.14 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: thats a perty screenshot |
22:19.14 | chouimat | file: ? |
22:20.25 | file | chouimat: trying out something I found |
22:20.37 | file | the file is there, but I can't execute it and ldd won't pick it up |
22:20.52 | chouimat | file: url? |
22:21.25 | file | http://www.caldera.com/support/docs/netware/ |
22:22.00 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Whats going on? Still coping with random dates? :) |
22:22.33 | kergoth | bleh. |
22:23.03 | file | the binaries will not run on my system... too old I suppose |
22:28.07 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: what was your joke about the goatse guy and caldera |
22:28.32 | file | has anybody ever had problems like this? |
22:28.38 | Russ | I was right, amd did launch opteron late last night |
22:28.49 | Russ | I went to look up flash memory on thier site and everything said "opteron" |
22:29.08 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: working right now |
22:29.21 | Russ | doing some 133MHz alternate bus master interfacing |
22:29.24 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I was joking - the whole thing is laughable |
22:29.37 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: these people are serious |
22:29.52 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: but its related to another long standing problem |
22:30.08 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: which is the system clock changing when udhcpc is running |
22:30.14 | Russ | (specially backwacds) |
22:30.15 | file | ih waut |
22:30.16 | file | er oh wait |
22:30.20 | file | maybe this app uses libc5 |
22:30.36 | Russ | file: libc5 is apt-get installable iirc |
22:30.45 | file | Russ: I use GEntoo :) |
22:30.49 | file | so I'll try to emerge it... |
22:30.54 | Russ | so you have to compile the son of a bitch? |
22:31.03 | file | eh I don't care |
22:31.53 | file | darn... |
22:31.54 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: two alternate bus masters, one running anywhere from 25MHz to 133MHz, and the other one is the GPIO's on the master chip |
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22:32.14 | Russ | (the SDRAM controller isn't very "controllable") |
22:33.51 | file | Russ: if a program needed libc5, how could I tell? |
22:34.26 | Russ | ldd |
22:34.32 | Russ | ldd `which program` |
22:34.33 | CosmicPenguin | or strings |
22:34.46 | signal11 | or rm -f libc5 and see if it still works |
22:34.48 | file | ldd won't work LOL |
22:35.33 | file | ldd nwserver responds with /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: ./nwserver: No such file or directory |
22:36.17 | file | nevermind... I have a libc5 compatibility library now and it still doesn't work :\ |
22:38.45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah, it's a dns prob for andersee's domains, he changed ips, but for some reason, dns servers are still caching it despite the ttl having expired |
22:39.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: doom |
22:39.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: the e-mail server works though |
22:39.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well mx records aren't cached like ip<->name are |
22:40.57 | CosmicPenguin | I'm thinking about going down and getting another CF |
22:44.02 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, this is borrowed in that as soon as i'm done, it's going back :P and getting it online cheaper |
22:44.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you know you want those $92 512's ;) |
22:44.36 | sorphin | what i really hate |
22:44.49 | sorphin | are these packages, that are like the front and back are melted together |
22:45.01 | sorphin | 'so the only way to open it is to cut it all up |
22:45.22 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
22:51.02 | CosmicPenguin | bbl - Fiance needs to use the computer |
22:51.06 | sorphin | heh |
22:55.01 | file | yeah it needed libc5 |
22:57.34 | kergoth | argh |
22:57.36 | chouimat | brb cat want to watch pussies of the net |
22:58.05 | chouimat | ibot seen TomW |
22:58.06 | | tomw <tom@144seg-pc-2214-89.cmts.sth.ptd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 1d 3h 1m ago, saying: 'nope, there is noting to eat in my kitchen. I'll have to get in the car and go searching for a meal. :)'. |
23:03.47 | file | bus error? darn... |
23:05.51 | chouimat | file: google for mars_nwe |
23:06.03 | file | chouimat: I'm using that currently |
23:06.10 | file | but this Caldera one is official |
23:12.40 | sorphin | yay |
23:12.46 | sorphin | cf update is working |
23:15.51 | kergoth | sorphin: nice. |
23:16.25 | sorphin | its booted sorta now |
23:16.35 | sorphin | now it's bitching about the fs |
23:17.03 | sorphin | when trying to ext2fs mtdblock1 |
23:19.32 | sorphin | kergoth: mtdblock1's ram right? |
23:19.41 | kergoth | depends |
23:19.53 | kergoth | oz uses a different flash partitioning than sharp |
23:19.59 | sorphin | this is sharp |
23:20.03 | kergoth | yea |
23:20.06 | sorphin | oz comes next |
23:20.12 | sorphin | i just waned to get the thing alive 1st |
23:20.32 | sorphin | but kernel goes to boot and init starts and it bitches about mtdblock1 |
23:21.22 | sorphin | ya know, now i wish i hadn't trashed the cradle :P |
23:21.43 | MonMotha | dammit...eagle doesn't have the part I want in it's library |
23:21.57 | MonMotha | it has it in PLCC, but I have it in DIP, so when I go to make the board it won't like me |
23:22.12 | sorphin | heh |
23:22.56 | MonMotha | then again, maybe if I didn't use parts that were 18+ years old... |
23:23.08 | MonMotha | still, would be nice to have both packages |
23:23.47 | sorphin | kergoth: all good now |
23:23.50 | sorphin | did a hard reset |
23:26.57 | chouimat|dishes | sorphin: your z is working? |
23:27.02 | sorphin | chouimat|dishes: yes |
23:27.13 | sorphin | so i trashed the cradle for nothin |
23:27.41 | chouimat|dishes | sorphin: ouch |
23:28.09 | sorphin | chouimat|dishes: something like that |
23:28.21 | kergoth | shit good thing i didnt bolt early today |
23:28.22 | sorphin | i shoulda tried diag mode 1st :P |
23:28.24 | kergoth | boss is lurking |
23:28.39 | chouimat|dishes | kergoth: hehe |
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23:55.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: re |
23:58.54 | kergoth | libs dont normally get linked with libgcc themselves right? the binaries that link against them do? |