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| 03:31.59 | sorphin | GPSFan: evening ken |
| 03:36.16 | GPSFan | sorphin: hi dan, well, another monday's over... |
| 03:37.37 | kergoth | yo |
| 03:38.59 | sorphin | GPSFan: ya |
| 03:39.02 | sorphin | kergoth: lo |
| 03:39.11 | GPSFan | ker ho.. |
| 03:39.26 | GPSFan | kergoth: that is ;>) |
| 03:39.36 | sorphin | yeah, we now kergoth is a ho ;) |
| 03:42.21 | sorphin | know even |
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| 04:12.39 | sorphin | chouimat: how good are you at schematic tracing? |
| 04:25.25 | chouimat|night | sorphin: why? |
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| 14:22.05 | sorphin | GPSFan: morning |
| 14:26.32 | GPSFan | sorphin: good morning dan |
| 14:27.57 | sorphin | oh, nothing, just a very obvious M$ banner ad right at the top o |
| 14:28.06 | sorphin | f /. |
| 14:28.10 | sorphin | damn c&p |
| 14:29.44 | GPSFan | m$ stopped being funny when they released DOS5.0 |
| 14:30.11 | sorphin | GPSFan: i think you missed the point here |
| 14:31.01 | GPSFan | sorphin: probably, I'm still half asleep. ;>) |
| 14:31.19 | sorphin | GPSFan: M$ ad + /. = troll field day |
| 14:31.38 | GPSFan | true enough.. |
| 14:34.17 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:34.29 | sorphin | lo cp/jc/mr pixil |
| 14:34.32 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you got a problem with me? |
| 14:34.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: eh? |
| 14:36.13 | CosmicPenguin | <sorphin> damn c&p |
| 14:36.14 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 14:36.23 | sorphin | uhh |
| 14:36.28 | sorphin | that's cut & paste :P |
| 14:36.51 | sorphin | hence, the & in the middle :-P |
| 14:37.04 | CosmicPenguin | I know - I was just joshing you |
| 14:37.12 | CosmicPenguin | we need a little humor in this room |
| 14:37.16 | sorphin | and since kergoth is too lazy to be awake yet :P |
| 14:37.20 | sorphin | ibot: tuesday |
| 14:37.21 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday) |
| 14:38.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: my humor for the day was seeing that m$ banner ad on /., if i need any more, i'll make file dance on hot coals while canada customs teases him w/ packages he'll never receive |
| 14:38.49 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:39.18 | GPSFan | lol |
| 14:40.25 | sorphin | ok, dilbert in spanish isn't funny |
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| 15:02.56 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: Like the phoenix from the ashes |
| 15:03.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:03.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: careful, you might get sued for saying phoenix ;P |
| 15:03.24 | CosmicPenguin | oh - thats right |
| 15:03.39 | CosmicPenguin | But apparently, using brand names of existing cars is ok |
| 15:03.45 | signal11 | that is a lyric from a rush song. must be Jeff |
| 15:03.49 | CosmicPenguin | so, lets try this again... |
| 15:04.02 | signal11 | Hemispheres #1 |
| 15:04.04 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: like the Ford Pinto form the aches |
| 15:04.15 | signal11 | heh |
| 15:04.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: uhh.. the pinto is better off in the ashes ;) |
| 15:04.42 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no way man - I want to get a vintage pinto, jack it up, put on mag wheels... it would be a sweet ride |
| 15:04.55 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: a friend of mine had one of those in high school |
| 15:04.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: how bout, like pixil from the ashes (every time greg pissed you off, but you stuck w/ it) |
| 15:04.59 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:05.14 | signal11 | it was definitely not a babe magnet of a car |
| 15:05.39 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: the fumes probably killed more brain cells than any other substance consumed during the high school years |
| 15:07.13 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Gotta luv the pintos! |
| 15:07.26 | Rocinante | signal11: How goes things? |
| 15:07.55 | Rocinante | Instead of getting the pinto's go all out and get the late 70's Mustang II's |
| 15:08.07 | Rocinante | They looked identical to the pinto's but had a whopping 84 HP! |
| 15:09.49 | sorphin | heh, my cutlass maxed at 110hp |
| 15:13.10 | signal11 | Rocinante: heh didn't some of those have a v-8 though? |
| 15:15.05 | CosmicPenguin | http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files/aolertranslator.html |
| 15:18.25 | sorphin | signal11: my cutlass was a V8 w/ that 110 hp :P |
| 15:18.40 | sorphin | course, it was a 260 w/ 2 barrel :P |
| 15:18.56 | CosmicPenguin | btw - anyone catch the new Mustang on the Today show today? |
| 15:19.51 | signal11 | no, how does it look? |
| 15:20.04 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: the body looks very 1960s |
| 15:20.36 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: especially the grill - 300 to 400 HP |
| 15:23.54 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: unfortunately, I can't find any pictures |
| 15:24.36 | kergoth | hey |
| 15:26.08 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: here we go: http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=420 |
| 15:27.18 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: and here is the convertible (bad picture): http://products.consumerguide.com/auto/editorial/photos/index.cfm/id/feature11/img/mustang.htm |
| 15:27.20 | signal11 | looks cool enough |
| 15:31.15 | levi | I didn't really like the new mustang look when they first unveiled it. But I didn't like the current look when it first came out either, maybe I'll get used to it. |
| 15:38.01 | chouimat | hi |
| 15:41.06 | chouimat | hey sorphin |
| 15:50.28 | Rocinante | nothing beats the cobra and mach I models... |
| 15:51.28 | sorphin | hmm.. here's a poll Q for everyone ;) |
| 15:51.33 | sorphin | How do you take your coffee? |
| 15:51.50 | chouimat | Rocinante: really ... I thought that a figth with 2 women in underware was the summum |
| 15:51.58 | chouimat | sorphin: I a mug |
| 15:52.03 | chouimat | s/I/in |
| 15:52.07 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:52.32 | Rocinante | chouimat: heh |
| 15:53.11 | chouimat | :) |
| 15:54.25 | chouimat | sorphin: anyy luck with the trace? |
| 15:54.29 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: intravenously |
| 15:56.25 | CosmicPenguin | or something |
| 15:56.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: how bout those ipks? ;) |
| 15:56.46 | sorphin | *g* |
| 15:57.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: get yourself an ipaq, then we |
| 15:57.13 | sorphin | i heard kergoth gets his coffee in an old cup that says Digi on it ;) |
| 15:57.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: working on it |
| 15:58.00 | CosmicPenguin | if dave would send me that Z, I would have some Z ipks too |
| 15:58.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: dave should be flyign back today |
| 15:58.23 | sorphin | he still has a lot of shit to send off ;) |
| 15:58.57 | chouimat | sorphin: for you coffee question: does by the mouth is a good answer? |
| 15:59.32 | sorphin | chouimat: actually i was really refering to if you put anything in it or not or if it was just straight black, but ah well |
| 15:59.56 | chouimat | sorphin: ok 2 sugar and 2 cream or milk |
| 16:00.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: don't worry about it, chouimat isn't really paying attention when he listens to his Celine Dion records |
| 16:00.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: true |
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| 16:05.46 | chouimat | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Celine Dion ....... |
| 16:06.13 | sorphin | chouimat: whatever, you guys are required to lust after her i thought :P |
| 16:06.58 | chouimat | sorphin: look I prefer watching myself playing with my hand in front of a mirror than her :P |
| 16:07.07 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:07.26 | chouimat | ok maintenant ce calvaire de DNS |
| 16:09.22 | chouimat | sorphin: everyone says that bind is a piece of junk but I can't find a suitable replacement for it |
| 16:09.33 | sorphin | chouimat: hehe.. there is ;) |
| 16:09.54 | sorphin | ok, you ipaq'ers, which model(s) you got? |
| 16:10.07 | sorphin | (not series, model) |
| 16:10.19 | chouimat | sorphin: powerdns ... maradns ... djbdns .... which one I can use for a corporate dns? |
| 16:10.34 | sorphin | chouimat: heh |
| 16:11.02 | chouimat | sorphin: :) |
| 16:17.57 | ade|home | bind9 is fine ish really .. ish |
| 16:18.07 | ade|home | ok very ish |
| 16:18.17 | sorphin | ade|home: hehe |
| 16:18.23 | sorphin | ade|home: i don't use 9 |
| 16:18.38 | ade|home | reason not to ? |
| 16:19.27 | sorphin | more like no reason to |
| 16:21.21 | sorphin | ade|home: using named 8.2.4-T2B here atm |
| 16:24.05 | chouimat | ade|home: we are planning to ditch bind here |
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| 16:47.38 | ade|beth2 | am running bind9 9.2.2-2 here, no problems |
| 16:55.10 | chouimat | ade|beth2: we got so much problem with bind8 that we don't know if bind9 is secure ... it crash once a week :( |
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| 17:08.39 | sorphin | chouimat: never had a prob w/ the current version of bind i'm running and it's handling quite a few domains |
| 17:15.52 | chouimat | sorphin: I did a script that check if named is running at every 60 seconds and if not it restart it |
| 17:16.16 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:17.32 | chouimat | sorphin: and I'm tired to receive 60 named crash email per day ... |
| 17:18.02 | sorphin | have you checked to see why its' crashing? :P and what version of 8 are you running? |
| 17:21.02 | chouimat | sorphin: last version 8 |
| 17:21.23 | sorphin | and have you check to see why it's crashing? :P |
| 17:21.51 | chouimat | yes ... random crashes |
| 17:21.56 | sorphin | uh huh |
| 17:22.19 | chouimat | sorphin: attack ... hardware problems and divine intervention |
| 17:23.10 | sorphin | bind wouldn't that is |
| 17:23.15 | chouimat | sorphin: hahaha |
| 17:23.19 | sorphin | it's commiting namedicide |
| 17:24.09 | chouimat | sorphin: anyone would commit suicide listening to that crap |
| 17:24.26 | sorphin | chouimat: but yet, you haven't ;) |
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| 17:24.57 | chouimat|away | bbl need to go reboot that damned dns server .... 8 km away :( |
| 17:25.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:25.16 | sorphin | not that far :P |
| 17:25.18 | sorphin | 8 miles, sure |
| 17:25.23 | sorphin | 8km, nah |
| 17:25.46 | chouimat|away | sorphin: no car, no bus ... and it's raining |
| 17:26.03 | sorphin | chouimat|away: 3 words |
| 17:26.10 | sorphin | chouimat|away: remote serial console |
| 17:27.16 | chouimat|away | sorphin: yup but when that box is freezed ... |
| 17:27.36 | sorphin | chouimat|away: yo ucall someone over there :P |
| 17:27.59 | chouimat|away | sorphin: exactly but today it's my turn :) |
| 17:28.01 | sorphin | or hell, send the mounties over :P |
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| 17:43.54 | sorphin | mallum: evening |
| 17:45.45 | mallum | hey sorphin |
| 17:45.56 | kergoth | hey mallum |
| 17:46.11 | mallum | hey kergoth |
| 17:46.37 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:47.07 | sorphin | while kergoth spends his day in his digicube ;) |
| 17:47.17 | chouimat | http://slashdot.org/articles/03/04/15/1454218.shtml?tid=153 |
| 17:47.19 | kergoth | bah, dont remind me |
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| 17:47.50 | sorphin | Russ: re |
| 17:47.58 | sorphin | kergoth: aww, why not? ;) |
| 17:48.10 | kergoth | ibot: tuesday |
| 17:48.11 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday) |
| 17:48.16 | chouimat | http://www.securityfocus.com/news/3912 |
| 17:48.30 | sorphin | kergoth: already did it earlier while you were still coffeeless and lifeless ;) |
| 17:48.44 | kergoth | heheh |
| 17:49.23 | sorphin | kergoth: you got all Z's or an ipaq too? |
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| 17:50.24 | sorphin | nelson: re |
| 17:51.13 | kergoth | i have a c700 and 5500 only, and dont own either of them |
| 17:51.17 | kergoth | i should buy an ipaq |
| 17:51.35 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:54.32 | ade|desk | buy 2 and give on eto me :) |
| 17:54.54 | kergoth | heh, i wont be buying anything for a while, i'm broke |
| 17:55.14 | ade|desk | less broke than me i am guessing |
| 17:55.46 | ade|desk | i haven't had a paying job for >8 months |
| 17:56.33 | Russ | hey sorphin |
| 17:57.41 | Russ | apt-get install gtk2-engines-spherecrystal |
| 18:00.05 | CosmicPenguin | Simpsons Season 3 is now available for preorder |
| 18:06.18 | CosmicPenguin | its not just a little ugly out there, its real ugly |
| 18:06.28 | sorphin | it's 82F here, and windy |
| 18:06.37 | sorphin | wind advisory all day |
| 18:06.39 | CosmicPenguin | weatherbot: weather kslc |
| 18:06.41 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Salt Lake City, Salt Lake City International Airport, UT, United States: It is 3 C (39 F), windspeed is 33.80 km/h, and visibility is 9.66 km. (Information current as of 2003.04.15 1710 UTC). |
| 18:06.49 | CosmicPenguin | It was 70 degrees yesterday |
| 18:07.04 | sorphin | glad i don't live in utah ;) |
| 18:07.12 | CosmicPenguin | me too |
| 18:07.19 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:07.33 | sorphin | tomorrow: high 78 low 50, w/ storms |
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| 18:14.57 | sorphin | yay |
| 18:15.18 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: looks like i got the svc manual and the jflash stuff (checking) |
| 18:15.43 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:15.44 | sorphin | i did :) |
| 18:15.48 | sorphin | w/ source |
| 18:16.15 | sorphin | it looks like anyways |
| 18:22.32 | sorphin | hmm, ok it's not the jflash, it's the cf updater |
| 18:30.12 | chouimat | sorphin: ? |
| 18:31.02 | sorphin | chouimat: i asked spencer for the sv manual and hte jflash for the Z |
| 18:31.14 | sorphin | he sent me the manual, and what looks like the source for the CF Updater |
| 18:31.38 | sorphin | cuz there's no jflash refernece in the zip file.. |
| 18:32.07 | chouimat | sorphin: I don't have that source code :( |
| 18:32.28 | kergoth`lunch | heh |
| 18:32.45 | sorphin | chouimat: you don't get what you don't ask for ;) (tho i didn't ask for this).. gonna email him back, wonder if he doesn't know what i meant by the jflash? |
| 18:33.12 | kergoth`lunch | probably didnt know what you meant |
| 18:33.19 | chouimat | sorphin: I asked for the info I needed to be able todo a netbsd port |
| 18:33.21 | kergoth`lunch | spencer's a marketing guy, not a techie |
| 18:33.28 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: tho i'm not complaining if this IS the cf update code ;) |
| 18:33.29 | kergoth`lunch | chouimat: you have it.. in japanese.. |
| 18:33.31 | kergoth`lunch | chouimat: :) |
| 18:33.56 | chouimat | kergoth`lunch: but I will probably need to modify the cf adapter too :) |
| 18:33.59 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: the more i look at this |
| 18:34.06 | sorphin | it's definately the cf update code |
| 18:37.39 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: any suggestion on how i should better describe it to him? (i.e. paste the banner of what it's output would look like, or ?) |
| 18:39.51 | chouimat | sorphin: just tell him to look at the page of the svc manual where they talk about the jtag stuff |
| 18:40.12 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:40.13 | sorphin | good point |
| 18:41.59 | chouimat | sorphin: np |
| 18:42.36 | chouimat | anyone know how to setup hylafax? |
| 18:43.06 | file | pray to a god. |
| 18:43.11 | sorphin | chouimat: shoulda asked me that years ago ;) |
| 18:43.20 | chouimat | file: which one |
| 18:43.23 | chouimat | sorphin: bah |
| 18:43.24 | file | chouimat: dunno |
| 18:43.44 | chouimat | wooohoooo the dns is ooperational |
| 18:45.03 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:45.10 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: i now know what those pads are |
| 18:45.17 | sorphin | in the battery area, on the right |
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| 18:45.43 | sorphin | hhe |
| 18:46.49 | file | what's a port scanning utility? |
| 18:47.43 | signal11 | chouimat: i have set up hylafax a few times |
| 18:47.54 | signal11 | once you get it going it's nice |
| 18:50.24 | chouimat | signal11: ok |
| 18:50.36 | signal11 | i installed from an rpm |
| 18:51.17 | sorphin | guess things are finally calming down |
| 18:51.46 | chouimat | signal11: I will install it later I'm finishing a job for 16h00 and I have 1h10 left |
| 19:05.41 | sjhill | file: for x in a b c d e f g h i ; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hd$x bs=1024 count=1 ; done |
| 19:05.49 | sjhill | file: that's a perfect port scan utility for you |
| 19:06.10 | chouimat | lol |
| 19:08.17 | sorphin | sjhill: allo mipswhore |
| 19:08.29 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 19:09.42 | sorphin | sjhill: sup? |
| 19:14.27 | sjhill | crappy day with interrupts |
| 19:14.42 | sorphin | sjhill: ah |
| 19:14.44 | kergoth`lunch | hrmph |
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| 19:28.14 | sorphin | Russ: re once again |
| 19:31.54 | Russ | ya, my rack made bad sounds |
| 19:32.02 | Russ | the ups made lots of beeping |
| 19:32.12 | Russ | and then there was something that sounded like a bang |
| 19:32.20 | Russ | and then all the computers beeped (power on post) |
| 19:35.01 | sorphin | oops |
| 19:35.11 | sorphin | doesn't sound good ;) |
| 19:35.18 | signal11 | ack |
| 19:35.58 | signal11 | was that a generator kicking in or something? |
| 19:36.10 | sorphin | signal11: doubtful |
| 19:36.38 | signal11 | like was the bang a transformer outside, or something frying in the computer room |
| 19:36.44 | sorphin | sounds like his UPS wasn't too happy |
| 19:37.25 | Russ | I think it was the sound of all the fans and harddrives simultaneously losing and gaining power |
| 19:39.41 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:01.13 | sorphin | Russ: coo.. finally got these traced |
| 20:01.22 | sorphin | nice having the schematic to reference |
| 20:05.08 | chouimat | hehe |
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| 21:27.58 | CosmicPenguin | hmm... stupid airplane, get dave on IRC faster |
| 21:28.14 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:28.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: let me me ask you a hypothetical |
| 21:29.03 | sorphin | ok? |
| 21:29.19 | CosmicPenguin | Say you've got a list of questions on a program, and you need to keep track of if they have been answered or not |
| 21:29.29 | sorphin | ok.. |
| 21:29.37 | CosmicPenguin | But you also want to provide defaults for things like numbers, dates and times |
| 21:30.12 | CosmicPenguin | How can I determine if the user answered those questions, or if they just accepted the defaults |
| 21:30.26 | CosmicPenguin | is there a way to make the user enter a value, but still have the defaults in play? |
| 21:31.26 | sorphin | yeah, just flag if there's anything other than null for an 'answer' and if null, assume default |
| 21:31.34 | sorphin | that's how i'd do it |
| 21:31.36 | CosmicPenguin | So get rid of the defaults then |
| 21:32.26 | sorphin | i'd point out there is a default and what it is |
| 21:32.43 | sorphin | for por |
| 21:32.58 | CosmicPenguin | The biggest problem is that we don't allow keyboard entry of any kind |
| 21:33.04 | sorphin | Point of Reference |
| 21:33.13 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:33.19 | CosmicPenguin | so to increment and decrement a number, you have to use buttons |
| 21:33.29 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:33.50 | CosmicPenguin | So if the question asks for a guys blood pressure, you want to start them off at a decent number, otherwise they'll have to arrow up from 0 |
| 21:33.58 | sorphin | yeah |
| 21:34.11 | CosmicPenguin | Which they'll always have todo, because if your blood pressure is 0, you're probably not going to make your dinnerdate |
| 21:34.18 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:34.39 | sorphin | you could just pick a default of whatever a mid range healthy BP is |
| 21:35.12 | CosmicPenguin | Which is what we do - but now I'm having trouble trying to figure out if they actually selected that value, or if it happened to be the default |
| 21:35.35 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:35.40 | sorphin | good point |
| 21:36.02 | sorphin | lemme ponder that one on the way home |
| 21:36.06 | sorphin | bbl |
| 21:43.24 | CosmicPenguin | later |
| 21:47.14 | kergoth | that blew. |
| 21:47.20 | kergoth | quarterly goal review with the boss |
| 21:47.58 | chouimat | kergoth: ouch |
| 21:48.15 | kergoth | and I havent done shit for any of my goals |
| 21:48.16 | kergoth | heh! |
| 21:50.53 | chouimat | kergoth: look very bad |
| 21:51.07 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:51.17 | kergoth | and apparently i need to be more timely with tasks he gives me |
| 21:51.22 | kergoth | and i need to be late less often |
| 21:51.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:52.06 | signal11 | i have 8 bosses |
| 21:52.22 | CosmicPenguin | Bob... Bob.. |
| 21:53.10 | signal11 | tell him that his "goals" cut into your reading of cannabisnews.com |
| 21:56.42 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 22:00.29 | CosmicPenguin | I love being in charge of the company credit card |
| 22:00.43 | signal11 | heh mine is going to arrive tomorrow |
| 22:00.55 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: cool - What did you get? |
| 22:00.56 | signal11 | i got the m9000 |
| 22:01.13 | CosmicPenguin | So did I - with the mini ITX tower case |
| 22:01.13 | signal11 | and a tiny 12 volt case |
| 22:01.50 | signal11 | i just want an XDM client, and maybe to play with the mpeg stuff if they ever get it working |
| 22:01.55 | CosmicPenguin | And I've got a CF->IDE adapter here thats not doing anything. |
| 22:02.16 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: I don't think that the MPEG stuff will ever be open source |
| 22:02.32 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: hell, I've got an NDA with them, and they won't let me even think about getting the stuff |
| 22:02.47 | CosmicPenguin | Speaking of which |
| 22:02.49 | signal11 | maybe i'll run freevo on it |
| 22:13.11 | mallum | kergoth: hi there mr, did you commit that xfree fix ;-) ? |
| 22:14.36 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: does the epia support disk on chip or any kind of fast booting? |
| 22:14.59 | signal11 | well i imagine it would have some kind of super fast post |
| 22:15.04 | kergoth | mallum: uh, yeah i seem to recall doing a bk receive |
| 22:16.32 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: You mean something like a LinuxBIOS port? |
| 22:17.26 | mallum | kergoth: bk recieve ? |
| 22:17.39 | signal11 | yeah |
| 22:17.45 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: not that I know of |
| 22:17.58 | signal11 | but maybe it won't be necessary if it posts fast enough |
| 22:18.41 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: You're still looking somewhere between 10 and 20 seconds |
| 22:18.44 | CosmicPenguin | Either way you look at it |
| 22:21.08 | kergoth | mallum: yeah. the other end of a bk send. |
| 22:23.09 | mallum | kergoth: ah, sorry Im with you - I dont think I sent you a fix for copying the skeleton over and allowing the directorys to be writable |
| 22:23.32 | mallum | kergoth: do you think the --no-preserve switch to cp would do it ? |
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| 22:32.47 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:33.29 | kergoth | argh |
| 22:35.50 | sorphin | kergoth: with 50 or so of his clonesest friends ;) |
| 22:39.18 | sorphin | w/ orders to sing every morning :P |
| 22:40.23 | signal11 | ~lart ms office |
| 22:43.13 | kergoth | http://www.ninjagear.net/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=81 hmm |
| 22:44.38 | kergoth | bleh. |
| 22:44.56 | kergoth | I need to go home, clean my house, and drink. |
| 22:45.06 | chouimat|food | http://www.ninjagear.net/product_info.php?products_id=82 |
| 22:45.09 | sorphin | kergoth: and get to work on time |
| 22:45.20 | kergoth | sorphin: bah |
| 22:45.29 | kergoth | sorphin: that would imply that i cared |
| 22:45.42 | sorphin | kergoth: you'll care when you get canned |
| 22:45.48 | kergoth | point taken |
| 22:46.13 | chouimat|food | kergoth: you forgot do the dishes and eat :) |
| 22:46.20 | kergoth | that too |
| 22:46.41 | kergoth | go home, clean kitchen, do dishes, drink myeslf into a drunken stupor |
| 22:46.45 | kergoth | sounds like a plan! |
| 22:46.49 | chouimat|food | kergoth: I thinnk I will go to the grocery store later ... I tired of eating cup-of-msg |
| 22:46.53 | signal11 | if you eat fast food, you don't have to do dishes |
| 22:47.05 | kergoth | yeah, but i'm broke |
| 22:47.10 | signal11 | chouimat|food: heh |
| 22:47.10 | kergoth | :\ |
| 22:47.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:47.18 | signal11 | ramen it is then |
| 22:47.22 | kergoth | exactly |
| 22:47.27 | kergoth | ramen rocks |
| 22:47.35 | chouimat|food | signal11: third Gattuso coup-of-noodle today |
| 22:47.49 | signal11 | i would avoid that flavor packet-o-sodium though, sprinkle lightly |
| 22:48.01 | signal11 | and add 1 habanero |
| 22:48.45 | signal11 | i've had a case of ramen sitting in my closet for awhile, do those things ever spoil? |
| 22:48.54 | kergoth | doubt it |
| 22:50.14 | sorphin | no |
| 22:54.23 | CosmicPenguin | heh... http://www.ninjagear.net/popup_image.php?pID=94&osCsid=ec9e910f9c9e4e1e865a53578ab17233 |
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| 22:57.24 | sorphin | Morn: re |
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| 22:57.29 | sorphin | GPSFan: yo |
| 22:57.47 | sorphin | GPSFan: need your adv (would ask tom too, but as usual he's never around ;) ) |
| 22:58.26 | Morn | re's |
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| 22:58.40 | Morn | the send me a DSL modem, but I don't get provisioned for another 3 days |
| 22:58.42 | Morn | that's smart |
| 22:58.55 | noidd | seen mallum |
| 22:59.05 | sorphin | Morn: uh.. that's normal |
| 22:59.19 | Morn | really? |
| 22:59.21 | noidd | ibot, seen mallum |
| 22:59.26 | | mallum is currently on #ipaq (5h 15m 55s) #familiar (5h 15m 55s) #intimate (5h 15m 55s) #gpe (5h 15m 55s) #tuxscreen (5h 15m 55s) #elinux (5h 15m 55s) #handhelds.org (5h 15m 55s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 35m 54s |
| 22:59.28 | Morn | I would have expected the dates to be closer |
| 22:59.44 | sorphin | Morn: uh.. 3 days? |
| 22:59.52 | sorphin | you're lucky it's not 14 :P |
| 23:00.07 | noidd | blast :-/ |
| 23:00.13 | kergoth | mallum: ping |
| 23:00.25 | signal11 | our dsl company said it would be at least a week; but when i plugged my equipment in it worked right away anyway |
| 23:00.34 | sorphin | signal11: yeah |
| 23:00.35 | signal11 | id 10 t 's |
| 23:00.58 | signal11 | qwest has some kind of deal with msn, i think you get turned on right away with msn but they delay the other isp's |
| 23:01.16 | sorphin | yuck |
| 23:01.17 | sorphin | msn |
| 23:01.36 | signal11 | yeah that's the default, they kept slamming me back onto msn too, for like a month |
| 23:01.46 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:01.49 | signal11 | it would take a week to get back to the isp i wanted, and within 24 hours i'd be back on fkn msn |
| 23:01.53 | sorphin | well, have sbc here, and i use their isp |
| 23:02.15 | *** part/#elinux noidd (~arse@66-193-15-64.gen.twtelecom.net) |
| 23:03.13 | mallum | kergoth: pong |
| 23:03.24 | sorphin | mallum: noidd was looking for you too |
| 23:03.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:03.30 | mallum | who is noidd ? |
| 23:03.36 | sorphin | no idea |
| 23:03.49 | kergoth | mallum: the guy who made perl crosscompile |
| 23:03.52 | kergoth | mallum: no small feat.. |
| 23:03.54 | kergoth | heheh |
| 23:04.00 | mallum | kergoth: no not at all :\ |
| 23:04.26 | kergoth | i was impressed. anyway he's having trouble building xfree86 from buildroot |
| 23:05.23 | mallum | kergoth: yeah, until I fix this skeleton file permissions its broken :( |
| 23:05.42 | kergoth | bleh, if i have time i'll look at it |
| 23:05.45 | kergoth | just swamped lately |
| 23:06.30 | mallum | kergoth: dont worry, I figured how to fix it |
| 23:06.40 | kergoth | k |
| 23:06.53 | mallum | kergoth: just buildroot is braking on busybox at the mo |
| 23:07.08 | mallum | kergoth: make[4]: *** No rule to make target `busybox-0.60.3/libbb.a', needed by `ipkg'. |
| 23:07.10 | kergoth | busybox? thats odd |
| 23:07.12 | kergoth | oh |
| 23:07.18 | kergoth | thats an iipkg break |
| 23:07.20 | mallum | ipkg i86 I mean |
| 23:07.21 | GPSFan | sorphin: hey |
| 23:07.24 | kergoth | and its due to it calling an old autoconf version |
| 23:07.31 | kergoth | you did enable autoconf in buildroot, right? |
| 23:07.41 | kergoth | does output/staging/build/bin/autoconf exist? |
| 23:08.11 | mallum | kergoth: yeah autoconf enabled |
| 23:08.31 | kergoth | have you mrproper'd your ipkg-x86 recently? |
| 23:08.35 | kergoth | we've changed versions multiple times |
| 23:08.36 | mallum | kergoth: and it exists |
| 23:08.39 | sorphin | GPSFan: hey |
| 23:08.46 | mallum | kergoth: no I'll make mrproper it |
| 23:08.53 | sorphin | GPSFan: the price on this look ok?: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4677&item=2522366210&rd=1 |
| 23:08.56 | kergoth | mallum: dont forget to set SUBDIRS ;) |
| 23:09.04 | mallum | yeah dont worry :-) |
| 23:10.05 | kergoth | argh. |
| 23:10.41 | GPSFan | sorphin: back for a bit, tek 475 is a nice fast analog scope, I have a 465, the 100MHz version, I'd pay 250 for it as long as it works. ;>) |
| 23:11.05 | sorphin | well, if i don't like it, he'll refund it |
| 23:11.10 | sorphin | what's the highest you'd go? |
| 23:11.23 | mallum | kergoth: cool, that appeared to fix it :-) |
| 23:12.02 | GPSFan | sorphin: so he says. |
| 23:13.30 | sorphin | GPSFan: don't worry, i'd get it back.. anyways, back to the point here |
| 23:13.30 | sorphin | GPSFan: what's the max you'd do? |
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| 23:14.20 | GPSFan | sorphin: probably 300, maybe 350 |
| 23:14.26 | sorphin | k |
| 23:15.53 | kergoth | mallum: nice |
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| 23:21.17 | sorphin | GPSFan: btw.. the guy is selling a 465 for parts too |
| 23:21.32 | sorphin | GPSFan: incase you need any ;) it ends in 2 days and is at $9.95 atm |
| 23:22.37 | GPSFan | sorphin: thanks< I saw that but is a 465M which tek made for the military, and isn't quite the same inside. :( |
| 23:23.18 | sorphin | oh |
| 23:28.37 | sorphin | GPSFan: next step if i win it will be to snag some probes |
| 23:28.45 | sorphin | GPSFan: what they run about? |
| 23:37.20 | GPSFan | sorphin: probes from tek are $$ there are some cheaper alternates, the probes will determine measurement bandwidth, up to the 25oMHz max of the scope, however with an analog scope, you will be able to see stuff much higher, without the aliasing effects of a digital scope. |
| 23:38.06 | GPSFan | I haven't bought probes in a long time, let me poke around a bit... |
| 23:38.14 | sorphin | ok |
| 23:38.19 | sorphin | i appreciate it |
| 23:38.37 | sorphin | if i don't win this, there are some other 465's and i think another 75 |
| 23:43.01 | GPSFan | sorphin: these porbes are Pamona, which isn't bad for an inexpensive probe. I got some of the 100MHz models about 5-6 years ago, they were ok. |
| 23:43.04 | GPSFan | http://www.mpja.com/productview.asp?product=14504+TE |
| 23:45.44 | CosmicPenguin | Damnit |
| 23:46.01 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the secret command line param to convince open office to let you modify your setup? |
| 23:46.11 | sorphin | dunno |
| 23:46.15 | sorphin | GPSFan: cool, bookmarked |
| 23:47.21 | Russ | ok, LVC is fast |
| 23:47.30 | Russ | what 3.3V logic is faster? |
| 23:48.10 | Russ | because LVC is the gay when working at 133MHz |
| 23:48.16 | Russ | s/the/teh/ |
| 23:48.24 | Russ | damend autocorrection |
| 23:54.41 | chouimat|tv | back |