00:22.06 | MonMotha | grrr...can't load an initial console on this box (kernel problem)...it boots, but then hangs (no panic) |
00:22.27 | CosmicPenguin | uclibc? |
00:22.40 | MonMotha | it's glibc |
00:22.53 | MonMotha | looks like a kernel problem, but it's right at the point where the handoff to init occurs |
00:23.32 | MonMotha | so odd...I have everything in /dev (that was my first problem) |
00:23.49 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... thats the same problem I was seeing on the Tuxscreen yesterday |
00:24.08 | MonMotha | I know the cause of it |
00:24.13 | MonMotha | it usually occurs when you lack /dev/console |
00:24.17 | MonMotha | however, I have /dev/console |
00:24.52 | MonMotha | char major 5 minor 1 |
00:24.52 | CosmicPenguin | What is /dev/console tied to? |
00:25.12 | MonMotha | it's a char device |
00:25.13 | MonMotha | as it should be |
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09:52.14 | sorphin | coo.. my 2nd serial adapter works |
10:06.13 | sorphin | heh, just bricked i think :P |
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10:56.01 | sorphin | scanline: re |
10:57.00 | scanline | hi |
10:58.09 | sorphin | whats up? |
10:58.48 | scanline | ate dinner with friends, watched "After the Fox" and some Babylon 5.. about to do some hacking on this pong game thingy |
10:58.54 | sorphin | nod |
10:58.57 | scanline | I'm in no mood to do productive work ;) |
10:59.16 | scanline | damn |
10:59.19 | scanline | do they have JTAG? |
10:59.20 | sorphin | was flashing the 2nd one, gave checksum errors |
10:59.26 | sorphin | and that was it |
10:59.27 | sorphin | no |
10:59.32 | scanline | that sucks |
10:59.39 | scanline | at least they're cheap :) |
10:59.40 | sorphin | all they have is the RDP crap, but it's apparently all software |
10:59.41 | sorphin | heh |
11:00.02 | sorphin | well, i could swear someone unbricked swapping simms, but i can't seem to do it now :P |
11:00.03 | scanline | I haven't looked at the webpal hardware much... |
11:00.06 | sorphin | and everyone else is asleep |
11:00.26 | scanline | does it have a YUV video overlay thingy? :) |
11:00.29 | sorphin | if i had a rootfs on this one atm, i could prolly recover it |
11:00.43 | sorphin | heh, i forget :P |
11:02.18 | scanline | right now I'm just a poor student.. spent almost all my money either on wacky hardware or on tuition :) |
11:02.52 | scanline | though between Microchip and Maxim, I seem to be able to get the most expensive parts I need as free samples |
11:04.22 | scanline | almost have a playable Pong game :) |
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11:20.29 | sorphin | cool |
11:21.12 | sorphin | possibly |
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11:23.25 | scanline | maybe you should stop throwing the cards at each other |
11:24.20 | sorphin | heh |
11:24.25 | sorphin | you know that's not what i mean :P |
11:29.25 | scanline | stupid x86 and it's tiny number of interrupts.. |
11:30.30 | sorphin | well, it's not so much that |
11:30.39 | sorphin | it's they wire shit up poorly |
11:31.14 | sorphin | you have to play musical slot, so as to not have 2 cards sharing the same IRQ that don't like eachother |
11:31.37 | scanline | I think my system is currently in the only card layout that works properly |
11:32.54 | sorphin | well, it seems to vary depending on the motherboard.. giga's is fairly picky unfortunately |
11:34.40 | sorphin | hmm.. ok, maybe it's not a collision after all.. |
11:35.06 | sorphin | cuz after a power cycle, its back to being tempermental w/ no other cards than the video.. stupid geforce |
11:36.00 | scanline | friend of mine and I are now planning on building an IR to USB interface that can support a number of wireless controllers... we'll have transmitters for the NES, SNES, and Atari controllers, plus probably a custom controller built with these electric field sensors :) |
11:36.13 | scanline | we want to use it with the NES light gun :) |
11:39.32 | sorphin | hmm.. interesting.. i clear the cmos, it comes right up.. |
11:39.41 | sorphin | heh, that's scary |
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21:21.11 | MonMotha | anyone attempted to use RH 8.0's stock gcc 3.2 based toolchain? |
21:21.35 | MonMotha | it throws parse errors aroung on pthread.h in glibc 2.2.5; I've never had such problems and the code looks fine...very odd |
21:21.36 | file | I wish I could have a shopping spree on Compgeeks |
21:21.42 | file | just for like 3 items... |
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22:19.42 | sorphin | MonMotha: yo |
22:19.53 | MonMotha | hi |
22:19.59 | MonMotha | damn redhat sucks |
22:20.22 | sorphin | do you remember a few weeks ago, that guy was in here, w/ something bricked, he salvaged it from a spare.. wasn't that a webpal or was it a tux ? |
22:20.32 | MonMotha | I don't remember |
22:20.41 | MonMotha | ibot should log the channel |
22:20.42 | | MonMotha: i don't know |
22:20.44 | MonMotha | ibot logs |
22:20.48 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
22:20.48 | MonMotha | ibot shut the hell up |
22:20.49 | | you shut up, monmotha |
22:21.15 | sorphin | haha |
22:21.23 | MonMotha | that bot needs to be punished |
22:21.41 | sorphin | MonMotha: heh, i've done that before and it's a bitch to search :P tim needs to add something to search them :P |
22:22.08 | MonMotha | google doesn't index them? |
22:22.19 | sorphin | doubleful |
22:22.22 | sorphin | doubtful even |
22:22.47 | sorphin | since any time i search for webpal, it rarely even finds the right pages mentioning webpal |
22:22.49 | MonMotha | yeah, looks like since they're gzipped it won't pay any attention |
22:23.02 | sorphin | it finds one mentioning webpal.org or people who want a 'web pal' :P |
22:23.41 | sorphin | MonMotha: i ask anyways because one of mine bricked las night |
22:23.50 | sorphin | stupid checksum error while writing |
22:24.11 | MonMotha | you'll probably have to re program the flash simm with a flash programmer |
22:24.18 | sorphin | heh |
22:24.24 | sorphin | then it'll never happen :P |
22:24.32 | MonMotha | the roms do have an 8 bit mode which you might find usful for that, but I don't know if the pin is brought out to the connector |
22:24.47 | sorphin | coulda sworn i saw mention of hot swapping the simm |
22:24.49 | sorphin | which i tried |
22:25.06 | sorphin | but it's almost like when it contacts the programmer it doesn't do it in memory |
22:25.12 | sorphin | and i don't have a rootfs atm |
22:25.17 | sorphin | so i can't do it that way yet |
22:26.34 | MonMotha | nope, tied to ground |
22:27.12 | MonMotha | I've been meaning to draw up a new flash simm for the webpal |
22:27.22 | MonMotha | for easier prgramability |
22:27.32 | MonMotha | bring the pins out to standard IDC header connectors |
22:27.47 | sorphin | well, least this kernel sees the ethernet card |
22:28.01 | sorphin | maybe once it's booted into linux i can hot swap and reprogram :P |
22:28.05 | MonMotha | I'd be porting blob to it right now if redhat's toolchain was usable |
22:28.08 | MonMotha | it can't even compile glicb |
22:28.10 | MonMotha | glibc |
22:28.17 | sorphin | umm |
22:28.22 | sorphin | why are you using theirs? |
22:28.31 | MonMotha | not cross chain |
22:28.33 | MonMotha | the native one |
22:28.42 | sorphin | again |
22:28.44 | sorphin | why are you using theirs? :P |
22:28.56 | MonMotha | and they patch the hell out of it so much that if you change it to the stock one, you'll pretty much break everything |
22:29.03 | MonMotha | you either run redhat, or you run somethign else |
22:29.09 | sorphin | that's why i don't do redhat :P |
22:29.11 | MonMotha | you don't try to run redhat and use standard thigns...it *will* break |
22:29.15 | sorphin | 5.0 turned me off to them |
22:29.17 | MonMotha | yes, I'm going to reininstall the instant I fix my IDE |
22:30.06 | MonMotha | the webpal flash simms are only two layers, right? |
22:30.25 | sorphin | meaning top and bottom ? |
22:30.28 | MonMotha | yes |
22:30.32 | sorphin | think so |
22:30.35 | MonMotha | k |
22:30.37 | sorphin | no reason they'd need to be more |
22:30.40 | MonMotha | that's what it looks lik |
22:30.49 | MonMotha | just making sure there wasn't anythign hidden under the ground planes |
22:31.23 | sorphin | most/all of those vias |
22:31.33 | sorphin | are just for trace jumping |
22:31.41 | MonMotha | that's what it looks like, yeah |
22:32.43 | MonMotha | the flash simm pinouts don't seem to make sense (from the schematics), either that or I'm counting pins wrong |
22:33.29 | sorphin | heh |
22:33.42 | sorphin | i use the flash simm pinouts from the other listing |
22:33.45 | sorphin | not from the schematic |
22:33.47 | MonMotha | there's 72 pins per side, right? |
22:33.52 | MonMotha | what other listing? |
22:34.24 | sorphin | http://mtrob.fdns.net/~webpal/rom_sim_pinouts.txt |
22:35.15 | MonMotha | are the pins on each side different? |
22:36.21 | sorphin | i'm not sure if it's one side per chip or what |
22:36.26 | MonMotha | hat distro do you use btw sorphin? |
22:36.38 | sorphin | kinda spinoff of debian |
22:36.43 | MonMotha | well, apparently if you have two chips (for 2MB), it's 32 bits wide |
22:36.57 | MonMotha | so it just populates the upper half data bus and shares address pins |
22:37.44 | sorphin | so i can NFS root this bitch and try hot swapping |
22:37.47 | sorphin | that way |
22:38.30 | MonMotha | hum, is the LA and D bus on that thing tristate? |
22:38.40 | MonMotha | if so, it might help to suspend the proc (or whatever tristates it) first |
22:39.30 | sorphin | know even |
22:39.55 | MonMotha | actually byte on it is tied high |
22:40.08 | MonMotha | the top of the flash simm's plane is vcc, the bottom is ground |
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22:41.31 | MonMotha | yes, looks like adding the other chip (to get 2MB) definately gives you a 32bit wide ROM space |
22:41.35 | MonMotha | sharing the address |
22:45.46 | sorphin | nod |
22:46.06 | sorphin | i'd add the chip if they were easily found :P |
22:52.42 | MonMotha | I would too, but then I don't have the gear to solder TSSOPs |
22:54.38 | sorphin | heh |
22:54.43 | sorphin | sharp pencil tip |
22:54.44 | sorphin | flux |
22:54.49 | sorphin | thin solder |
22:58.09 | MonMotha | eh, I can barely manage to solder a single wire onto a QFP without making bridges |
22:58.18 | MonMotha | let alone solder all the pins of a TSSOP down |
22:59.08 | sorphin | hehe |
22:59.10 | sorphin | tack soldering :P |
22:59.42 | file | Fedex never ceases to amaze me |
23:00.01 | file | I tracking says they sent my Intel manuals back to Memphis after 1 delivery attempt |
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23:06.32 | sorphin | bah |
23:06.35 | sorphin | so much for nfsroot |
23:07.23 | sorphin | heh |
23:07.33 | sorphin | duh, guess it would help to have an ether cable attached :P |
23:10.22 | sorphin | heh |
23:10.24 | sorphin | oh goodie |
23:10.26 | sorphin | a flood of |
23:10.40 | sorphin | eth0: interrupt from stopped card |
23:27.39 | sorphin | MonMotha: you tried ether in your webpal yet ? |
23:30.06 | MonMotha | sorphin: no, been attempting to port BLOB to it |
23:30.22 | MonMotha | I need to find someone who can recover from brickage to test for me once I get some stuff done |
23:30.37 | sorphin | dave |
23:30.42 | MonMotha | file: intel sends tracking info? |
23:30.56 | MonMotha | dave? |
23:31.12 | sorphin | MonMotha: uh.. prpplague? :P |
23:31.26 | MonMotha | oh, I thought you just randomly said "dave" |
23:31.32 | sorphin | no |
23:31.34 | MonMotha | like you were asking to talk to dave |
23:31.43 | sorphin | i was pointing out he could prolly unbrick :P |
23:31.45 | MonMotha | gunna say, I didn't seem him on here |
23:31.47 | MonMotha | ah |
23:33.49 | MonMotha | hum...know a good editor with syntax higlighting for assembly |
23:33.49 | MonMotha | ? |
23:35.15 | MonMotha | need to write some startup routines for the clps7500 for BLOB |
23:35.23 | MonMotha | which of course have to be done in assembly |
23:35.37 | MonMotha | or I guess I could just get a hex editor out and code machine code :) |
23:36.38 | sorphin | heh |
23:37.07 | MonMotha | I'm partial to nedit, but it doens't higlight for asm |
23:37.18 | MonMotha | since I run X |
23:38.02 | MonMotha | gosh, even vim won't hilight asm very well |
23:38.06 | file | eh? |
23:38.19 | file | MonMotha: no, they tried to deliver (Fedex) and left the number |
23:38.24 | sorphin | nod |
23:38.28 | sorphin | ya know |
23:38.35 | sorphin | i can't find anything useful about these ether errors |
23:38.42 | MonMotha | for console editors I use vim (if I'm doing anything complex) or pico/nano if I'm doing simple edits (with -w of course) |
23:39.09 | file | MonMotha: the latest tracking says it ended up in Memphis |
23:39.40 | sorphin | tons of timeout waiting for TX RDC, Hw. address read/write mismap and mismatched read page pointers # vs # |